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| 08:19.45 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 08:28.55 | peetaur2 | when i start a qemu vm, this popup "Multimedia System" saying "The audio playback device .... does not work ..." pops up like 400 times, and telling it not to pop up doesn't do anything. How do I disable this useless thing? |
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| 08:34.17 | kishore96 | peetaur2: Look in System settings > Notification > Multimedia system |
| 08:35.18 | peetaur2 | kishore96: this looks like the same thing I get when clicking the settings in the pop up, and I already disabled all the checkboxes such as "Show a message in a popup" |
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| 08:53.54 | linuxnewbie2016 | hi. I will be new to linux. I choosed KDE as desktop and wondering if I should go with debian9kde or kdeneon at this time? |
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| 09:08.03 | kishore96 | Neon is probably a better option. With debian you might be stuck with long-ago-fixed bugs if you're on the stable branch. Plus I think debian still uses KDE 4. |
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| 09:10.23 | martin2 | hello, quick qestion, I'm on fedora 25 using kde plasma 5.8.5. I want to have the walk through windows of application shortcut. I set it, the side bar appears correctly with the list of windows and so on but I cannot go to more than one window further. If I continue to press the shortcut key nothing happens unlike alt-tabs for all windows |
| 09:11.15 | martin2 | it does not cycle, it just go to the next one and I cannot go further then |
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| 09:49.47 | sobczyk | is there a python parser/emitter for kde ini files? |
| 09:50.10 | sobczyk | KConfig does not support parsing string/stdin |
| 09:50.24 | sobczyk | and does not support setting immutability |
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| 10:36.01 | rhn | hi! how to debug the KDE thumbnailer? it stopped working for RAF files after I upgraded Fedora |
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| 10:38.07 | leszek | rhn: if there is an issue with the thumbnailer it will log to ~/.xsession-errors |
| 10:39.00 | rhn | leszek: thanks. no issues there |
| 10:39.57 | rhn | can I feed the thumbnailer some file and see what messages it gives? perhaps I need to install something |
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| 10:44.02 | leszek | rhn: that I don't know actually. But when it supports those RAF files and it can't create a thumbnail then it should throw out an error in ~/.xsession-errors when you visit a folder with the file and have preview enabled |
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| 10:45.30 | rhn | leszek: no, it seems like the files are simply being ignored. do you know which repository contains the code for handling thumbnailing? I mean the framework, not the thumbnailer plugins |
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| 10:46.23 | leszek | rhn: did you check in the settings if thumbnailing for that filetype is active ? |
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| 10:47.41 | leszek | as for thumbnails in general do you have kio-extras installed. This contains some extra thumbnails |
| 10:48.33 | rhn | leszek: yup, Image files and RAW camera files both on |
| 10:49.13 | leszek | ah RAF files are raw files. Hmm... so kio-extras needs to be installed I guess and you need a library that supports this aswell I guess |
| 10:51.30 | rhn | kio-extras installed, library... kf5-libkdcraw.x86_64 should be that? |
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| 10:55.17 | rhn | I suspect it's some simple bug in one of the thumbnailers, but to verify I need to know the repository name |
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| 11:04.55 | leszek | yeah the libkdcraw looks like it |
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| 11:08.48 | rhn | can I force the thumbnailer to regenerate cache? |
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| 11:16.28 | gryffus | anyone using skypeweb account in KDE telepathy? I am getting "This IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'haze' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'skypeweb'. Please try installing haze with your package manager." |
| 11:16.47 | gryffus | i have already installed telepathy-haze |
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| 11:29.40 | leszek | rhn: hitting f5 usually should do the thing so reloading the folder |
| 11:29.52 | rhn | tried this |
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| 11:31.57 | leszek | gryffus: is the telepathy stuff compiled with haze support. I think it needs to be enabled for it aswell |
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| 12:04.14 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 12:07.11 | adfeno | Hi BluesKaj :) |
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| 12:27.19 | BluesKaj | hi adfeno |
| 12:27.30 | BluesKaj | was making coffee |
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| 12:28.50 | pa | hi |
| 12:29.00 | pa | isn't it possible to change the font size of the clock? |
| 12:32.10 | BluesKaj | pa, digital clock in the panel? |
| 12:32.59 | BluesKaj | if so, right click on it and choose digtal clock settings |
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| 12:55.03 | pa | but i can't choose the font size in there |
| 12:55.08 | pa | only the font family |
| 12:55.20 | pa | sorry |
| 12:55.24 | pa | font style |
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| 13:05.42 | hateball | pa: I think it only scales with the size of the panel |
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| 13:17.52 | pa | hateball, i asked because, after the last update, the size shrunk a bit |
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| 13:33.03 | kishore96 | Is there any way I can make dolphin select folders on middle click as opposed to opening a new tab? |
| 13:33.24 | kishore96 | Right now, middle-clicking on files selects them, and middle-clicking on |
| 13:33.32 | kishore96 | folders opens a new tab |
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| 13:44.57 | kishore96 | The select-file-on-hover option seems to have been removed. |
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| 14:35.48 | shtrb | Is there a dictionery like parle for P/C ? |
| 14:36.16 | shtrb | *Is there a dictionery app/ training app for P/C + wrong channel |
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| 14:45.54 | ntz | hello |
| 14:46.19 | shtrb | hello |
| 14:47.36 | ntz | I have one little problem with older kde 4.11.x .... everything runs fine except that there's something wrong with nouveau and when I resume the laptop from sleep, sometimes happens that system tray switches to something like legacy-look (some older oxygen like icons) and certain things stop working |
| 14:47.44 | ntz | like for example layout applet |
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| 14:49.57 | leszek | ntz: sounds like kded4 crashed |
| 14:50.29 | ntz | yeah ... can you gimme that `proper' way of restarting kded from within running kde ? |
| 14:50.51 | shtrb | you can restart kdm /sddm |
| 14:51.01 | shtrb | systemctl restart somedm |
| 14:51.05 | ntz | it happens just only here with nouveau .... never happened with same release (same distro) with i915 |
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| 14:51.21 | shtrb | it's magic |
| 14:52.11 | ntz | shtrb: it's iirc not using systemctl but kdeinit4 ? |
| 14:53.15 | ntz | shtrb: # pgrep -f kded || echo indeed\, kded ain\'t running |
| 14:53.16 | ntz | indeed, kded ain't running |
| 14:53.31 | shtrb | I'm saying restart on a lower level (the one that start X) |
| 14:53.44 | ntz | I don't want to teminate my session now |
| 14:53.48 | shtrb | that will kill evrything and allow you to relogin |
| 14:53.51 | shtrb | oh |
| 14:54.25 | ntz | shtrb: wow, just alt+F2 and typyng there kded4 fixed it .... thanks for reminding me this |
| 14:54.31 | ntz | **typing |
| 14:54.39 | shtrb | hmm |
| 14:54.40 | shtrb | ok |
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| 14:55.04 | shtrb | shouldn't it be something like kwin --replace |
| 14:55.06 | shtrb | ? |
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| 14:55.20 | ntz | shtrb: those are two totally different components iirc |
| 14:55.29 | shtrb | ok |
| 14:55.40 | ntz | I just never realized, that this is caused by crashed kded |
| 14:55.52 | ntz | leszek: actually thanks to you !!!! |
| 14:56.00 | shtrb | how ? |
| 14:56.10 | ntz | just re-running kded4 |
| 14:56.16 | shtrb | ok |
| 14:56.20 | ntz | alt+F2 << kded4 |
| 14:57.07 | leszek | :) |
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| 14:58.25 | ntz | leszek: hahahaha .. really, I was obviously all my life overrating kded, i thought that no kded == no kde, never checked if it crashed or not and moreover, grep kded ~/.xsession-errors-* returns nothing |
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| 15:02.13 | ntz | leszek: JFYI to now owe you something, this is with kded4 up'n'running http://susepaste.org/view/raw/34544776 and this is without kded4 http://susepaste.org/view/raw/71215563 |
| 15:02.44 | ntz | to be honest, I'm totally surprised, that the impact of dead kded4 is such a low |
| 15:03.16 | ntz | s/now to owe you/not to owe you/ |
| 15:03.45 | leszek | yeah I also once had the problem so I remembered the issue being kded4 being killed. There are some other impacts aswell like unable to mount or unmount stuff and I also think kscreen isn't working when kded4 dies |
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| 15:05.41 | ntz | btw, when you talk about mounting .... I hate the stuff that by default mounts to /var, so at least I'm doing this cheapy trick: |
| 15:05.44 | ntz | /var/run/media/dpecka /home/dpecka/mnt/auto none rbind 0 0 |
| 15:05.56 | ntz | ^^ I think that something like kde shall kde adopt also |
| 15:06.04 | ntz | s/kde/that/ |
| 15:06.19 | ntz | omg, I have friday english typing syndrome at monday |
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| 15:32.46 | redeyedman | http://i.imgsafe.org/3aca8c33f5.png |
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| 15:33.52 | redeyedman | transparent |
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| 15:56.31 | dAnjou | hi, not sure whether this question really belongs here but I'll try anyway: i'm trying to use KDEConnect. it's working when phone and pc are really in the same wifi but it's not working when the pc is only in the lan that the wifi is in. is this a bug or really intended? |
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| 16:16.29 | dAnjou | could be related: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353629 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368559 |
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| 16:41.58 | spencerb | dAnjou, I think the second bug is definitely not related. In that the OP is talking about a network architexture issue, where he's asking if KDE can work across multiple local networks, which I don't think is currently possible. |
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| 16:43.12 | spencerb | dAnjou: I'm not sure I understand your own situation. kdeconnect works correctly when your phone and pc are in the same wifi, but could you elaborate on when it doesn't work? |
| 16:44.08 | spencerb | this doesn't really make sense to me: "when the pc in only in the lan that the wifi is in". Do you mean that your phone is not connected to wifi but your pc is? |
| 16:45.38 | dAnjou | the other way round |
| 16:45.51 | dAnjou | phone is in wifi, pc is in lan |
| 16:46.02 | dAnjou | but wifi and lan are the same network |
| 16:46.13 | spencerb | dAnjou: when you say lan... |
| 16:46.26 | dAnjou | cable |
| 16:46.33 | spencerb | dAnjou: you mean that the PC is connected physically (ethernet), and the phone is wirelessly connected |
| 16:46.37 | spencerb | ah, ok |
| 16:46.46 | dAnjou | as opposed to wlan |
| 16:47.15 | dAnjou | we're using powerline though, maybe that's an issue |
| 16:47.34 | dAnjou | but it shouldn't |
| 16:47.57 | dAnjou | IPs are in the same subnet |
| 16:48.43 | dAnjou | i guess the protocol that kdeconnect is using somehow checks the ssid or something |
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| 16:50.27 | dAnjou | i'm a developer myself, but reading the code to figure out how it works is still a little too much work right know |
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| 16:51.47 | redeyedman | hmm |
| 16:52.15 | dAnjou | i wasn't able to find an "how it works" article in the blog either |
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| 16:52.56 | redeyedman | why kde works so bad with nvidia |
| 16:54.12 | redeyedman | I can't use nouveau every time |
| 16:54.38 | redeyedman | but it works good with kde |
| 16:55.14 | spencerb | dAnjou: my only advice would be to stick around for a while, perhaps one of the kdeconnect devs will see this and have an answer. |
| 16:56.12 | Fuchs | redeyedman: hm? Various nvidia devices here work fine with KDE / Plasma, what issues are you having? |
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| 16:57.42 | redeyedman | Fuchs, http://i.imgsafe.org/3aca8c33f5.png I have graphic glitches like this |
| 16:58.17 | redeyedman | this is in okular |
| 16:58.38 | redeyedman | context menus are transparent |
| 16:59.10 | Fuchs | odd, I've never seen this. Recent driver and Qt / Plasma versions? |
| 16:59.13 | spencerb | dAnjou: as to the first bug you mentioned, did you ensure you could ping the devices from each other. |
| 16:59.14 | redeyedman | I had to set qtgraphicsystem to native and do relogin |
| 16:59.18 | spencerb | ? |
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| 17:00.55 | redeyedman | Fuchs, KDE Frameworks 5.29.0 and Qt 5.6.2 |
| 17:01.14 | Fuchs | huh |
| 17:01.53 | redeyedman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.34 | redeyedman | Plasma 5.8.4 |
| 17:03.16 | Fuchs | that should work :/ |
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| 17:04.00 | redeyedman | KDE Applications 16.08.3 |
| 17:04.36 | redeyedman | while KDE Applications 16.12 are out |
| 17:04.40 | redeyedman | :D |
| 17:05.38 | slite | i have a weird issue with the new plasma 5 konsole and tmux |
| 17:06.04 | slite | whenever i close the konsole window and tmux is currently showing an idle shell, that shell is terminated |
| 17:06.09 | slite | not tmux itself |
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| 17:06.18 | redeyedman | may be changing qtgraphicsystem setting to native will help me |
| 17:06.26 | slite | any ideas? no such issue with xterm, rxvt or such |
| 17:07.20 | slite | also didn't happen with version 15 |
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| 17:09.25 | jdeisenberg | OpenSuSE, leap 42. The "locale" command shows everything as en_US.UTF-8, but vim and shell prompts and some of KDE shows up in German. |
| 17:10.46 | redeyedman | jdeisenberg, I have same issue with other languages |
| 17:11.02 | redeyedman | :D |
| 17:11.21 | jdeisenberg | Ah, I see something interesting in .config/kdeglobals -- |
| 17:11.33 | jdeisenberg | LANGUAGE=en_US:de |
| 17:11.57 | dAnjou | spencerb: like I said, everything works perfectly if both devices are connected via wifi and cable connection is disabled (pinging and controlling mouse and media). it stops working when i disable wifi on the pc and enable cable connection again. wifi and cable IPs for the pc are both in the 192.168.1.xxx subnet. |
| 17:12.20 | dAnjou | phone is in that subnet too |
| 17:12.56 | redeyedman | some kde applications in Kazakh but system uses ru.RU.UTF-8 |
| 17:12.56 | redeyedman | :D |
| 17:13.07 | jdeisenberg | This looks promising: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=206162 |
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| 17:14.14 | redeyedman | some kde applications in Kazakh but system uses ru.RU.UTF-8 |
| 17:14.28 | redeyedman | LANGUAGE=ru:kk |
| 17:15.18 | spencerb | dAnjou: I found this: https://albertvaka.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/introducing-kde-connect/ |
| 17:15.34 | spencerb | look at the comment made on October 7, 2013, by Albert Vaca |
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| 17:15.48 | jdeisenberg | going to log out after getting rid of the :de in LANGUAGE=en:de |
| 17:15.52 | jdeisenberg | back in a few. |
| 17:16.19 | spencerb | so either there is a possible problem with your setup (seems unlikely to me, but that doesn't count for much - esp as I know nothing of powerline networking) |
| 17:16.24 | spencerb | or it is a bug in kdeconnect |
| 17:16.27 | redeyedman | changed to LANGUAGE=ru_RU:ru |
| 17:17.14 | spencerb | dAnjou: I would advise posting it as a bug so the devs will definitely see it, then perhaps they can help you diagnose your exact issue. |
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| 17:19.03 | dAnjou | spencerb: i see, thank you very much for digging that up. i'll see when i feel motivated enough to write a proper bug report. |
| 17:19.04 | dAnjou | :P |
| 17:22.14 | dAnjou | spencerb: oh, it really seems to be the powerline thing. i just connected to the wifi coming from the actual router and it's working. |
| 17:23.12 | dAnjou | the other wifi comes from a powerline plug that somehow "forwards the network". it's not a typical repeater though. |
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| 17:24.58 | spencerb | dAnjou: glad you figured it out. :) |
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| 17:28.36 | dAnjou | oh that is really weird now. i fired up this powerline control dashboard and it couldn't find the wifi plug, only the one that my machine is connected to and the one that is connected to the router. so I hard-rebooted the wifi plug (unplugged it :P) and now it appears in the dashboard again and kdeconnect sees it. everything's fine now. weird ... |
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| 17:30.13 | jdeisenberg | Well, my shell is now English -- but the rest of my system is now German! |
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| 17:32.53 | jdeisenberg | (this is picking up a previous conversation where I had my locale all in English, but KDE was partially in German) |
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| 17:35.25 | redeyedman | jdeisenberg, some setting keeps it |
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| 17:35.40 | jdeisenberg | Lucky I can read German enough to get around :) |
| 17:35.50 | redeyedman | :D |
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| 17:39.47 | BluesKaj | oops |
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| 17:46.27 | jdeisenberg | and, mysteriously, once the system went to sleep and I unlocked, I'm back in English. |
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| 17:59.00 | jdeisenberg | Thanks for the assistance, everyone! |
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| 18:59.27 | kafloopascope | Hello! Can anyone tell me what the kde color scheme element [WM][activeBlend] is supposed to correspond to? I think everything in that section is for the titlebar, and "active" refers to the window being active, but how does "blend" play into it? |
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| 19:01.54 | kafloopascope | or the difference between [General][ColorScheme] and [General][Name]? |
| 19:02.28 | Zren | iunno https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Agithub.com%2Fkde%2F+%22activeBlend%22 |
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| 19:04.11 | kafloopascope | thanks |
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| 20:39.14 | Zelaf | Hello |
| 20:40.08 | tearmannair_ | how's it goin? |
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| 20:40.21 | Zelaf | Good, how about you? :D |
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| 20:45.06 | Zelaf | Does anyone know if there's an breeze like splash screen but with an arch icon instead of a KDE icon? |
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| 21:00.02 | kafloopascope | Zelaf, the new one that's all black? Check out /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/org.kde.breeze.desktop/contents/splash/images/ and you should be able to replace kde.svgz |
| 21:00.20 | stintel | good evening / timezone all. I'm occasionally having a Konsole tab that no longer responds to input |
| 21:00.42 | stintel | I can still scroll up, with scrollbar / scrollwheel / shift+pgup |
| 21:01.12 | stintel | but no repsonse when typing commands or hitting enter |
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| 21:01.26 | stintel | right click still shows popup menu |
| 21:01.40 | Zelaf | stintel tried closing it? |
| 21:01.47 | stintel | had this a few times now, and while I can close the tab and open a new one, I'd rather fix the real problem |
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| 21:02.08 | Zelaf | stintel sure it's just not a program that's doing work? |
| 21:03.13 | stintel | Zelaf: it happened when typing "vi /path/to/file" |
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| 21:03.26 | stintel | that is still visible |
| 21:03.28 | Zelaf | tried using nano? |
| 21:03.30 | stintel | lol |
| 21:03.35 | stintel | it happens only sometimes |
| 21:03.45 | stintel | and with random commands |
| 21:03.54 | Zelaf | I know how to start the biggest argument of the internet |
| 21:03.56 | stintel | also, there is no vi running |
| 21:04.04 | stintel | so it's *not* vi that is hanging |
| 21:04.15 | Zelaf | Checked logs? |
| 21:04.57 | stintel | great, now a second tab does the same, in the middle of journalctl |
| 21:05.10 | Zelaf | What terminal are you using? |
| 21:05.12 | stintel | and that journalctl is also not running according to ps aux |
| 21:05.16 | stintel | Konsole |
| 21:05.27 | stintel | 16.08.3 |
| 21:06.05 | stintel | nothing in logs btw |
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| 21:06.19 | Zelaf | Distro? |
| 21:06.28 | stintel | Gentoo |
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| 21:06.55 | Zelaf | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/semi-hang-or-partial-freeze-kde-4175513877/ |
| 21:06.56 | Zelaf | Found this |
| 21:07.34 | Zelaf | Probably not much help |
| 21:07.35 | stintel | all of kde is still fine, other Konsole tabs also |
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| 21:07.45 | stintel | actually, this irssi is opened via SSH in Konsole |
| 21:07.47 | stintel | so .. |
| 21:07.54 | stintel | really weird. and incredibly annoying |
| 21:08.01 | Zelaf | Never happened to me |
| 21:08.13 | Zelaf | I'm on Arch |
| 21:08.33 | Zelaf | On Konsole 16.12 |
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| 21:08.50 | Zelaf | Have you tried updating Konsole? |
| 21:09.15 | Zelaf | And also, tried xterm? |
| 21:09.24 | stintel | I don't want to use xterm :) |
| 21:09.27 | Zelaf | Open it and do a tid bit and see if it returns the same error |
| 21:09.29 | Zelaf | Just for testing |
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| 21:09.41 | stintel | well, the problem is I can work a whole day without it happening |
| 21:09.49 | stintel | and then it happens twice in 5 minutes |
| 21:09.59 | stintel | I close all non-hanging tabs |
| 21:10.01 | Zelaf | So it's... A tid bit rare? |
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| 21:12.11 | stintel | if I'd have to guess, it's since upgrading from 16.04.3 to 16.08.3 |
| 21:12.26 | stintel | I'll try 16.12, if that doesn't pull in a ton of new versions of other stuff |
| 21:13.04 | asturm | stintel: should be fine |
| 21:15.27 | stintel | meh, seems to pull in frameworks 5.29 |
| 21:16.16 | asturm | does it? oh yes it does, I forgot |
| 21:16.46 | asturm | stintel: 5.29 will be next stable candidate, anyway |
| 21:18.10 | stintel | I'll downgrade Konsole to 16.04.3 |
| 21:18.26 | stintel | ah meh, that's no longer in repos. |
| 21:18.48 | stintel | and I've already closed the stuck tabs so can't debug further either |
| 21:19.33 | stintel | oh well, guess I'll wait till it happens again |
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| 21:21.34 | GuiToris | hi, is there any kde tool which can check or repair filesystems (basically GUI fsck tool)? |
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| 21:38.45 | FLHerne | stintel: You're sure you haven't accidentally hit Ctrl-S? |
| 21:39.54 | FLHerne | (freezes output, hit Ctrl-Q to resume) |
| 21:40.14 | FLHerne | I have been experiencing various scrollback bugs with 16.12 |
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| 21:40.38 | asturm | FLHerne: I don't think that's a 16.12 regression, it has been there ever since |
| 21:41.12 | FLHerne | (I don't mean ctrl-s/q, that's not really a bug, just an annoying feature :P) |
| 21:41.38 | FLHerne | I've been using Konsole for years, never had my entire scrollback disappear at random intervals before |
| 21:41.55 | FLHerne | Or segfaults when filling up the fixed-size one |
| 21:41.56 | blueck | GuiToris: https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/extragear-sysadmin/partitionmanager/reference.html#menu-partition ? |
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| 21:47.45 | stintel | FLHerne: I've tried ctrl-s/ctrl-q. also usually there's a note about activating ctrl-s at the top of the window |
| 21:48.20 | stintel | and it seems I've disabled those shortcuts entirely |
| 21:48.38 | stintel | as with activity / silence bells |
| 21:48.57 | stintel | I really wonder why that stuff is on by default. does anyone ever use that? |
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| 21:50.58 | edgy | Hi, if I search for word1_word2, baloo would search for them as different words, can I search for an exact string? |
| 21:51.25 | Zelaf | kafloopascope, thanks for telling me that. It works wonderfully :D |
| 21:51.51 | edgy | e.g I want to search for disable_functions |
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| 21:53.54 | Zelaf | Is it possible to remove or disable the switch user button on the Breeze login? |
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| 22:05.24 | kafloopascope | Zelaf, be warned that unless you duplicate the theme, it will get overwritten by a package update eventually |
| 22:06.39 | Zelaf | Thanks for that aswell :D |
| 22:10.04 | edgy | any one using baloo here? |
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