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00:57.07sunnyHi everyone
00:57.15sunnyI am using plasma 5.8
00:57.24sunnyI am having resolution issue.
00:57.58sunnyPlasma is using 864x486 resolution.
00:58.27sunnyAny ideas?
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01:55.02vndestructiveDoes anyone know why the login screen would show up on both of the monitors hooked up to my PC instead of just the main one?
01:55.56thiagobecause you could be looking at the other screen
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01:59.28vndestructiveYeah, thanks.
01:59.45vndestructiveHelpful.
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04:31.32lazymonsterhi everyone
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05:35.01phish_ok so I caught plasmashell running away just now - I got it in gdb frozen.  It went from 160M-400M running for a few days (whatever) but when I just clicked the task bar it started to run away in both cpu usage (88%) and memory (now 1.2G res, 6G virt)
05:35.13phish_does anyone want to help me debug this a little?
05:35.51phish_http://pastebin.com/WG5NthJd
05:36.33phish_specifically is there anyway I can provide a better dump of this to illuminate the bug and hopefully get it squashed
05:39.19phish_thread apply all bt full -> http://pastebin.com/es83xYaF
05:40.42phish_to be clear the res will keep growing, last time I caught it doing this it reached 20GiB
05:40.47phish_and basically OOM'd me
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05:42.09phish_wow, looks like it grows at 20-30MiB/s
05:45.05Zrenphish_, Plasma version? Distro? What specifically did you click in the taskbar?
05:46.12phish_Zren: opensuse, plasma version 5.8.4
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05:46.34phish_*42.1 x86_64
05:47.29phish_I clicked the minified window in the task bar, it was one of the grouped entries I think - not sure
05:48.17phish_*whoops, 42.2 - forgot I upgraded a couple of weeks ago, not that it matters really for the kde repo there
05:48.45Zrenyeah, distro was just a fallback in case you didnt know
05:49.02Zrentask manager huh
05:49.18phish_i dumped a core for posterity - my millage with this type of possibly ipc related bug is it's freaking impossible to figure out
05:49.22Zrenthat could mean the compositor too, since it draws thumbnails onto it
05:49.28phish_i disable compositing
05:49.39phish_any config thing you want me to verify to rule out shoot
05:49.49Zrenso it's just really big icons in the tooltips?
05:50.26phish_er the entries in the taskbar?  it's the little rectangles with an icon and text to their right for app names and stuff
05:50.47phish_perhaps it froze just before displaying window previews, I do have that
05:51.39phish_so I'm actually on said desktop still, typing this in in konversation
05:51.48phish_kwin is running fine, can alt tab - no garbage window contents
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05:54.19phish_btw since memory is running away, the main thread is in this persistentvaluestorage::allocate - in method_connect ... is this a dbus backed method or something?
05:54.28Zrenhum, there's a memory leak with grouped apps https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371777
05:54.35Zrenbut that's probably not it
05:55.26phish_definitely didn't close app, was just trying to select one
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05:58.04phish_guess method was just qml5 stuff (it is in that lib, got distracted by the remote/call stuff). But yea, everyhthing is stuck on poll whenever I interrupt it.. can't really tell what's busy looping/runningaway in this program w/ gdb
05:58.45phish_any ideas for seeing what threads aren't moving on inactive poll? because that will probably help track it down
05:59.57ZrenI'm not a C++/gdb guy, just familiar with plasma's qml code.
06:00.46phish_I am a c++/gdb/multiprocessing guy but debugging these types of problems - well I'd like to add that skill to my treasure chest.  Can't do it is my findings to date
06:01.12phish_*warchest
06:02.00phish_poll/iowait breaks the typical probabillity of interrupt shining a light on where the problem is, more specifically
06:06.24ZrenWhat app was it?
06:06.29Zrenchrome/dolphin?
06:07.40phish_rox filer I think (it's a filemanager)
06:07.51phish_but I've had this before when trying to select konsole windows too
06:07.54phish_and here's the break
06:07.59phish_it is the main thread who's burning cpu
06:08.32phish_i just put htop in tree mode with userland thread display - only the main thread showed the cpu gobbling, none of the many threads it was running had that going
06:08.52Zrenevent loops, are usually in the main thread, so that doesn't say much tbh
06:09.39phish_yes but hwo many of those have a stack trace like that
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06:09.56phish_and I got a new stack trace actually, different point in it's phase, during GC
06:10.35phish_http://pastebin.com/WJSndyu6
06:11.19phish_perhaps at 1.6GiB GC will start dominating
06:11.22Zreneh, you're running out of memory, of course it's running th gc
06:11.37Zrenthe dbus call is interesting though
06:11.44Zrenin the first pastebin
06:12.53ZrenAs I do know it uses dbus to communicate with unity's stuff
06:13.09Zrento show progress bar's
06:13.18Zrenthough it's probably used for other stuff
06:13.35phish_huh, I didn't think I gave it the opportunity to change between the first and second pastebin
06:13.49Zrenlike the mpris stuff to show media player controls (in the tooltip)
06:14.03phish_i heard the other day this could be kded but that's speculation at best
06:15.03phish_oh I caught it in dbus again
06:15.06ZrenI do know there was just a commit to disable the mpris artUrl since it updates very frequently
06:15.40Zrenbut your app is a file transfer app which makes me think it's the progressbar
06:15.51Zrendoes it show a progressbar when transfering stuff?
06:15.55phish_well previously it has done it with konsole, for certain
06:16.05phish_nope, I wasn't even having it do anything at the moment
06:16.18phish_I was just about to go there to look at the latest file I dl'd
06:17.00phish_when I do get a popup combobox or whatever from rox, that's never caused this to blow up
06:17.30phish_and for konsole, it again was just selecting a running window, nothing special going on besides a focus change
06:18.06Zrenso just to confirm, you clicked a "group" of rox windows? as in, you expected it to show the "tooltip" for you to select the correct window?
06:18.15Zrenor was it just 1 window?
06:18.22phish_yep, and a group of konsole windows in the other case
06:18.31phish_I mean that's a weak connection but a connection none the less
06:18.35Zrenoh, two different cases
06:18.37phish_for me most of my applications are in groups
06:19.16Zrenjust clicking could possibly change the urgent property? https://github.com/KDE/plasma-desktop/blob/master/applets/taskmanager/plugin/smartlaunchers/smartlauncherbackend.cpp#L210
06:19.29phish_the tooltip kind btw is the vertical preview list
06:20.04Zrenaight, it's 99% certain it's the task manager
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06:20.15Zrenunless this happened when clicking another widget?
06:20.23Zrenif not, then submit a bug report
06:20.28phish_i'm not sure what that accomplishes, I just read that as property urgent's value changing
06:20.50phish_so far no, it's only been when clicking the task bar but I have no freaking steps to reproduce
06:20.59Zrenhttps://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=plasmashell&component=Task%20Manager
06:21.12phish_and i'm tired of bugs like this... I'd love to help squash it
06:21.38phish_it's why I'm hanging out on irc to see if I can get help when it crashes... like now
06:21.50phish_*well get help is wrong
06:21.56phish_work together is more like it
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06:30.25phish_Zren: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373489 anything I can add before I terminate plasmashell and start anew?
06:37.39ZrenMention which apps, mention compositor is disabled.
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06:37.57Zrenmention you did not see the tooltip displayed
06:38.44Zrenmention the app doesn't file transfer apps doesn't show progress bars.
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06:40.54Zrenmention that it was already running for a few days and was at ___ Mb beforehand? but only if you know for sure and aren't guessing
06:45.10phish_it was 300-400MiB a couple of hours ago
06:45.20phish_but if I let it continue it will grow 30MiB/s
06:45.34phish_normally when I start it it's like 160MiB
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06:57.01phish_Zren: ok addressed that and added baseline stacktrace and memory.
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07:31.43discoveredHow do i get the saved password from kdewallet? http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1481355077.png
07:31.48discoveredIt is empty?
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09:43.23cedrais this where I ask about kde plasma
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09:59.13cedraIf anyone reads this in the future how do I change the window title border height
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09:59.56YamakajaDoes anybody know why my journal could be getting spammed with ~50 lines / second of this? 'Dez 10 10:59:09 yamakaja-pc akonadi_maildir_resource[2361]: akonadiagentbase_log: Item does not provide part "RFC822"'
10:01.14YamakajaSame symptoms: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?s=276a28c6527c76d890c4440dfbd7b30c&p=1775405#post1775405
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13:01.43Th3R0bcedra, that is controlled by the kwin style
13:01.50Th3R0bso called 'decoration'
13:02.00cedraso it's not independent from other stuff
13:03.15Th3R0bits in one of the kcm modules that you configure it...
13:03.18Th3R0blemme have a look
13:03.50cedraOK
13:04.36Th3R0bsystemsettings -> application style -> window decorations
13:04.45Th3R0bshouldnt have been too hard to find actually
13:06.31cedrayeah i found that, problem is there's nothing to change the title bar height there
13:06.37cedrait's just the side borders
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13:07.00Th3R0bthe titlebar height is controlled by the decoration, so it depends on the deco youre using if youre allowed to change that
13:07.25Th3R0bpress the 'configure' button on the bottomleft corner of the preview
13:08.04cedraoh there it is
13:08.06cedrabutton size
13:08.15Th3R0blike in the breeze you have button size
13:08.17Th3R0byes
13:08.23cedrai guess that works
13:08.25cedraneat
13:08.41Th3R0bwell, if you want something different I spose you'll have to write a patch for the breeze deco =)
13:08.57Th3R0bwell im off, later
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13:42.07guysoft42hey all, I have an incredibly annoying bug that kscreen saves my multi-screen layout wrong, I also see reports for it on the net. I been looking at the source code, and it seems like the ID does not match the file name in the serializer:  https://github.com/KDE/kscreen/blob/master/kded/serializer.cpp#L48 . The "id" field in the JSON is not the same as the file name that is derived in that line. Could this be something wrong?
13:44.34rdieterguysoft42: are you using latest plasma-5.8.4?  (if not, strong recommendation to upgrade)
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13:46.52rdieter(in containts at least a few releavent fixes for multiscreen)
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14:11.54guysoft42rdieter, I am on ubuntu 16.10 and using plasma 5.7.5. Is there a way I can upgrade here so I can test that?
14:15.04rdieterguysoft42: you'll have to ask your distro
14:16.26BluesKajguysoft42, check with #kubuntu-devel
14:17.25guysoft42BluesKaj, thanks! :)
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15:13.21cousin_luigiGreetings.
15:13.36cousin_luigiAnyone able to use wmctrl on plasma5 ?
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15:47.23rdietercousin_luigi: yes (in general), I assume you're asking because maybe something doesn't work as expected?
15:48.38rdieter(though I wouldn't expect it to work with anything wayland-related)
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15:52.49cousin_luigirdieter: yes, sorry but it's probably an error of mine. Right now I'm awking it away:)
15:52.52cousin_luigiThanks.
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21:53.26odfhw5bv9sIs it OK that one plasmashell process eats 39% of cpu?
21:53.53CapsAdmindoes anyone's task bar and widgets stop rendering completely if you press alt shift f12?
21:54.01CapsAdminor falls back to some previously rendered task bar
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22:08.56FLHerneCapsAdmin: No, they just stop being translucent
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22:09.32stonedHow do I access windows computer in KDE over ethernet cable through ICS connection sharing
22:09.48stonedwhat kind of thing do I need
22:11.35CapsAdminFLHerne, are you using latest plasma?
22:11.55CapsAdmini'm on 5.8.90
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22:14.53stonedno
22:14.57stoneddebian kde stable 4.x
22:17.00FLHerneCapsAdmin: No, 5.8.4
22:17.21FLHerne(latest stable)
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22:42.32rafascI am using sddm and kde, and I am trying to start another wm (i3, in particular) on another tty. I can start a new xserver, and run i3 on it. If I switch back to tty7(kde), sometimes it works, sometimes it crashes.
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23:21.39excalibrWhat's causing lock screen briefly reveals my desktop screen upon waking up from suspend
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23:35.10FLHerneexcalibr: What version? That was often a problem in 4.x, should hopefully be better now
23:35.34FLHerneexcalibr: That whole category of bugs is caused by X11 - everything is just a standard window, including the lock-screen
23:35.43excalibrLatest build of plasma 5 on archlinux
23:36.14FLHerneWhich has to use messy hacks to keep itself as the top window, which can be broken by other things (menus, most often)
23:36.23excalibrMy main screen is external display though
23:36.31FLHerneIdeally, use Wayland, it fixes the fundamental problem
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23:37.21FLHerneAre you doing something just before locking that might force the lockscreen window down?
23:37.40FLHerneRight-click -> lock screen can be problematic IME
23:38.16FLHerneBecause the menu itself can break it
23:39.11excalibrFLHerne, Ive been wanting to try plasma on wayland (My laptop runs on intel gfx). How do I go about that?
23:39.54excalibrFLHerne, nothing like that. I just casually suspend the machine
23:41.03FLHerneexcalibr: Find a tty, run `startplasmacompositor`
23:41.54FLHerneYou'll probably want to install xorg-server-xwayland and set a ton of env vars
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23:49.51excalibrFound the instructions on that on archwiki

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