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00:57.07 | sunny | Hi everyone |
00:57.15 | sunny | I am using plasma 5.8 |
00:57.24 | sunny | I am having resolution issue. |
00:57.58 | sunny | Plasma is using 864x486 resolution. |
00:58.27 | sunny | Any ideas? |
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01:55.02 | vndestructive | Does anyone know why the login screen would show up on both of the monitors hooked up to my PC instead of just the main one? |
01:55.56 | thiago | because you could be looking at the other screen |
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01:59.28 | vndestructive | Yeah, thanks. |
01:59.45 | vndestructive | Helpful. |
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04:31.32 | lazymonster | hi everyone |
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05:35.01 | phish_ | ok so I caught plasmashell running away just now - I got it in gdb frozen. It went from 160M-400M running for a few days (whatever) but when I just clicked the task bar it started to run away in both cpu usage (88%) and memory (now 1.2G res, 6G virt) |
05:35.13 | phish_ | does anyone want to help me debug this a little? |
05:35.51 | phish_ | http://pastebin.com/WG5NthJd |
05:36.33 | phish_ | specifically is there anyway I can provide a better dump of this to illuminate the bug and hopefully get it squashed |
05:39.19 | phish_ | thread apply all bt full -> http://pastebin.com/es83xYaF |
05:40.42 | phish_ | to be clear the res will keep growing, last time I caught it doing this it reached 20GiB |
05:40.47 | phish_ | and basically OOM'd me |
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05:42.09 | phish_ | wow, looks like it grows at 20-30MiB/s |
05:45.05 | Zren | phish_, Plasma version? Distro? What specifically did you click in the taskbar? |
05:46.12 | phish_ | Zren: opensuse, plasma version 5.8.4 |
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05:46.34 | phish_ | *42.1 x86_64 |
05:47.29 | phish_ | I clicked the minified window in the task bar, it was one of the grouped entries I think - not sure |
05:48.17 | phish_ | *whoops, 42.2 - forgot I upgraded a couple of weeks ago, not that it matters really for the kde repo there |
05:48.45 | Zren | yeah, distro was just a fallback in case you didnt know |
05:49.02 | Zren | task manager huh |
05:49.18 | phish_ | i dumped a core for posterity - my millage with this type of possibly ipc related bug is it's freaking impossible to figure out |
05:49.22 | Zren | that could mean the compositor too, since it draws thumbnails onto it |
05:49.28 | phish_ | i disable compositing |
05:49.39 | phish_ | any config thing you want me to verify to rule out shoot |
05:49.49 | Zren | so it's just really big icons in the tooltips? |
05:50.26 | phish_ | er the entries in the taskbar? it's the little rectangles with an icon and text to their right for app names and stuff |
05:50.47 | phish_ | perhaps it froze just before displaying window previews, I do have that |
05:51.39 | phish_ | so I'm actually on said desktop still, typing this in in konversation |
05:51.48 | phish_ | kwin is running fine, can alt tab - no garbage window contents |
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05:54.19 | phish_ | btw since memory is running away, the main thread is in this persistentvaluestorage::allocate - in method_connect ... is this a dbus backed method or something? |
05:54.28 | Zren | hum, there's a memory leak with grouped apps https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371777 |
05:54.35 | Zren | but that's probably not it |
05:55.26 | phish_ | definitely didn't close app, was just trying to select one |
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05:58.04 | phish_ | guess method was just qml5 stuff (it is in that lib, got distracted by the remote/call stuff). But yea, everyhthing is stuck on poll whenever I interrupt it.. can't really tell what's busy looping/runningaway in this program w/ gdb |
05:58.45 | phish_ | any ideas for seeing what threads aren't moving on inactive poll? because that will probably help track it down |
05:59.57 | Zren | I'm not a C++/gdb guy, just familiar with plasma's qml code. |
06:00.46 | phish_ | I am a c++/gdb/multiprocessing guy but debugging these types of problems - well I'd like to add that skill to my treasure chest. Can't do it is my findings to date |
06:01.12 | phish_ | *warchest |
06:02.00 | phish_ | poll/iowait breaks the typical probabillity of interrupt shining a light on where the problem is, more specifically |
06:06.24 | Zren | What app was it? |
06:06.29 | Zren | chrome/dolphin? |
06:07.40 | phish_ | rox filer I think (it's a filemanager) |
06:07.51 | phish_ | but I've had this before when trying to select konsole windows too |
06:07.54 | phish_ | and here's the break |
06:07.59 | phish_ | it is the main thread who's burning cpu |
06:08.32 | phish_ | i just put htop in tree mode with userland thread display - only the main thread showed the cpu gobbling, none of the many threads it was running had that going |
06:08.52 | Zren | event loops, are usually in the main thread, so that doesn't say much tbh |
06:09.39 | phish_ | yes but hwo many of those have a stack trace like that |
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06:09.56 | phish_ | and I got a new stack trace actually, different point in it's phase, during GC |
06:10.35 | phish_ | http://pastebin.com/WJSndyu6 |
06:11.19 | phish_ | perhaps at 1.6GiB GC will start dominating |
06:11.22 | Zren | eh, you're running out of memory, of course it's running th gc |
06:11.37 | Zren | the dbus call is interesting though |
06:11.44 | Zren | in the first pastebin |
06:12.53 | Zren | As I do know it uses dbus to communicate with unity's stuff |
06:13.09 | Zren | to show progress bar's |
06:13.18 | Zren | though it's probably used for other stuff |
06:13.35 | phish_ | huh, I didn't think I gave it the opportunity to change between the first and second pastebin |
06:13.49 | Zren | like the mpris stuff to show media player controls (in the tooltip) |
06:14.03 | phish_ | i heard the other day this could be kded but that's speculation at best |
06:15.03 | phish_ | oh I caught it in dbus again |
06:15.06 | Zren | I do know there was just a commit to disable the mpris artUrl since it updates very frequently |
06:15.40 | Zren | but your app is a file transfer app which makes me think it's the progressbar |
06:15.51 | Zren | does it show a progressbar when transfering stuff? |
06:15.55 | phish_ | well previously it has done it with konsole, for certain |
06:16.05 | phish_ | nope, I wasn't even having it do anything at the moment |
06:16.18 | phish_ | I was just about to go there to look at the latest file I dl'd |
06:17.00 | phish_ | when I do get a popup combobox or whatever from rox, that's never caused this to blow up |
06:17.30 | phish_ | and for konsole, it again was just selecting a running window, nothing special going on besides a focus change |
06:18.06 | Zren | so just to confirm, you clicked a "group" of rox windows? as in, you expected it to show the "tooltip" for you to select the correct window? |
06:18.15 | Zren | or was it just 1 window? |
06:18.22 | phish_ | yep, and a group of konsole windows in the other case |
06:18.31 | phish_ | I mean that's a weak connection but a connection none the less |
06:18.35 | Zren | oh, two different cases |
06:18.37 | phish_ | for me most of my applications are in groups |
06:19.16 | Zren | just clicking could possibly change the urgent property? https://github.com/KDE/plasma-desktop/blob/master/applets/taskmanager/plugin/smartlaunchers/smartlauncherbackend.cpp#L210 |
06:19.29 | phish_ | the tooltip kind btw is the vertical preview list |
06:20.04 | Zren | aight, it's 99% certain it's the task manager |
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06:20.15 | Zren | unless this happened when clicking another widget? |
06:20.23 | Zren | if not, then submit a bug report |
06:20.28 | phish_ | i'm not sure what that accomplishes, I just read that as property urgent's value changing |
06:20.50 | phish_ | so far no, it's only been when clicking the task bar but I have no freaking steps to reproduce |
06:20.59 | Zren | https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=plasmashell&component=Task%20Manager |
06:21.12 | phish_ | and i'm tired of bugs like this... I'd love to help squash it |
06:21.38 | phish_ | it's why I'm hanging out on irc to see if I can get help when it crashes... like now |
06:21.50 | phish_ | *well get help is wrong |
06:21.56 | phish_ | work together is more like it |
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06:30.25 | phish_ | Zren: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373489 anything I can add before I terminate plasmashell and start anew? |
06:37.39 | Zren | Mention which apps, mention compositor is disabled. |
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06:37.57 | Zren | mention you did not see the tooltip displayed |
06:38.44 | Zren | mention the app doesn't file transfer apps doesn't show progress bars. |
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06:40.54 | Zren | mention that it was already running for a few days and was at ___ Mb beforehand? but only if you know for sure and aren't guessing |
06:45.10 | phish_ | it was 300-400MiB a couple of hours ago |
06:45.20 | phish_ | but if I let it continue it will grow 30MiB/s |
06:45.34 | phish_ | normally when I start it it's like 160MiB |
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06:57.01 | phish_ | Zren: ok addressed that and added baseline stacktrace and memory. |
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07:31.48 | discovered | It is empty? |
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09:43.23 | cedra | is this where I ask about kde plasma |
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09:59.13 | cedra | If anyone reads this in the future how do I change the window title border height |
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09:59.56 | Yamakaja | Does anybody know why my journal could be getting spammed with ~50 lines / second of this? 'Dez 10 10:59:09 yamakaja-pc akonadi_maildir_resource[2361]: akonadiagentbase_log: Item does not provide part "RFC822"' |
10:01.14 | Yamakaja | Same symptoms: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?s=276a28c6527c76d890c4440dfbd7b30c&p=1775405#post1775405 |
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11:39.40 | discovered | hello |
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12:05.15 | BluesKaj | howdy all |
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13:01.43 | Th3R0b | cedra, that is controlled by the kwin style |
13:01.50 | Th3R0b | so called 'decoration' |
13:02.00 | cedra | so it's not independent from other stuff |
13:03.15 | Th3R0b | its in one of the kcm modules that you configure it... |
13:03.18 | Th3R0b | lemme have a look |
13:03.50 | cedra | OK |
13:04.36 | Th3R0b | systemsettings -> application style -> window decorations |
13:04.45 | Th3R0b | shouldnt have been too hard to find actually |
13:06.31 | cedra | yeah i found that, problem is there's nothing to change the title bar height there |
13:06.37 | cedra | it's just the side borders |
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13:07.00 | Th3R0b | the titlebar height is controlled by the decoration, so it depends on the deco youre using if youre allowed to change that |
13:07.25 | Th3R0b | press the 'configure' button on the bottomleft corner of the preview |
13:08.04 | cedra | oh there it is |
13:08.06 | cedra | button size |
13:08.15 | Th3R0b | like in the breeze you have button size |
13:08.17 | Th3R0b | yes |
13:08.23 | cedra | i guess that works |
13:08.25 | cedra | neat |
13:08.41 | Th3R0b | well, if you want something different I spose you'll have to write a patch for the breeze deco =) |
13:08.57 | Th3R0b | well im off, later |
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13:42.07 | guysoft42 | hey all, I have an incredibly annoying bug that kscreen saves my multi-screen layout wrong, I also see reports for it on the net. I been looking at the source code, and it seems like the ID does not match the file name in the serializer: https://github.com/KDE/kscreen/blob/master/kded/serializer.cpp#L48 . The "id" field in the JSON is not the same as the file name that is derived in that line. Could this be something wrong? |
13:44.34 | rdieter | guysoft42: are you using latest plasma-5.8.4? (if not, strong recommendation to upgrade) |
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13:46.52 | rdieter | (in containts at least a few releavent fixes for multiscreen) |
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14:11.54 | guysoft42 | rdieter, I am on ubuntu 16.10 and using plasma 5.7.5. Is there a way I can upgrade here so I can test that? |
14:15.04 | rdieter | guysoft42: you'll have to ask your distro |
14:16.26 | BluesKaj | guysoft42, check with #kubuntu-devel |
14:17.25 | guysoft42 | BluesKaj, thanks! :) |
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15:13.21 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
15:13.36 | cousin_luigi | Anyone able to use wmctrl on plasma5 ? |
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15:47.23 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: yes (in general), I assume you're asking because maybe something doesn't work as expected? |
15:48.38 | rdieter | (though I wouldn't expect it to work with anything wayland-related) |
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15:52.49 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: yes, sorry but it's probably an error of mine. Right now I'm awking it away:) |
15:52.52 | cousin_luigi | Thanks. |
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21:53.26 | odfhw5bv9s | Is it OK that one plasmashell process eats 39% of cpu? |
21:53.53 | CapsAdmin | does anyone's task bar and widgets stop rendering completely if you press alt shift f12? |
21:54.01 | CapsAdmin | or falls back to some previously rendered task bar |
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22:08.56 | FLHerne | CapsAdmin: No, they just stop being translucent |
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22:09.32 | stoned | How do I access windows computer in KDE over ethernet cable through ICS connection sharing |
22:09.48 | stoned | what kind of thing do I need |
22:11.35 | CapsAdmin | FLHerne, are you using latest plasma? |
22:11.55 | CapsAdmin | i'm on 5.8.90 |
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22:14.53 | stoned | no |
22:14.57 | stoned | debian kde stable 4.x |
22:17.00 | FLHerne | CapsAdmin: No, 5.8.4 |
22:17.21 | FLHerne | (latest stable) |
22:17.57 | stoned | Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Windows 6.1] Server=[Samba 4.2.10-Debian] |
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22:28.16 | NanoSector | is scaling in plasma 5 considered experimental? |
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22:42.32 | rafasc | I am using sddm and kde, and I am trying to start another wm (i3, in particular) on another tty. I can start a new xserver, and run i3 on it. If I switch back to tty7(kde), sometimes it works, sometimes it crashes. |
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23:21.39 | excalibr | What's causing lock screen briefly reveals my desktop screen upon waking up from suspend |
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23:35.10 | FLHerne | excalibr: What version? That was often a problem in 4.x, should hopefully be better now |
23:35.34 | FLHerne | excalibr: That whole category of bugs is caused by X11 - everything is just a standard window, including the lock-screen |
23:35.43 | excalibr | Latest build of plasma 5 on archlinux |
23:36.14 | FLHerne | Which has to use messy hacks to keep itself as the top window, which can be broken by other things (menus, most often) |
23:36.23 | excalibr | My main screen is external display though |
23:36.31 | FLHerne | Ideally, use Wayland, it fixes the fundamental problem |
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23:37.21 | FLHerne | Are you doing something just before locking that might force the lockscreen window down? |
23:37.40 | FLHerne | Right-click -> lock screen can be problematic IME |
23:38.16 | FLHerne | Because the menu itself can break it |
23:39.11 | excalibr | FLHerne, Ive been wanting to try plasma on wayland (My laptop runs on intel gfx). How do I go about that? |
23:39.54 | excalibr | FLHerne, nothing like that. I just casually suspend the machine |
23:41.03 | FLHerne | excalibr: Find a tty, run `startplasmacompositor` |
23:41.54 | FLHerne | You'll probably want to install xorg-server-xwayland and set a ton of env vars |
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23:49.51 | excalibr | Found the instructions on that on archwiki |