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00:23.58konradosHi!
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00:34.38FLHernekonrados: Good morning
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00:51.22konradosOh, I haven't got a notice about new message, FLHerne - hi. I'm not sure if this is kde-related or rather Ubuntu+KDE, but... on this screenshot - http://imgur.com/a/CQbxm on the bottom (taskbar) right to the "application launcher" icon, there is another icon - chrome. I did it by mistake. On taskmanager -> right click ->  Task manager settings -> sorting I selected "manually" - and, I wanted to drag a chrome app (a button on the taskbar) to
00:51.22konradosthe most left. But it seems I moved to far to the left, an icon was created. I don't want this icon. When I right-click on it, I can only see "remove this panel" but AFAIK this will remove the entire taskbar. How can I remove this icon?
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00:57.37DarinMilleru19809: sounds like your plasma session is locked up.  Do you have a short cut to open a terminal? If not use alt-spacebar to open konsole
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01:03.35konradosAnyone? Maybe someone can suggest me what it actually is, so I can google that?
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01:07.39ezakimakplasma has been super buggy and crashing a lot lately
01:07.54ezakimaksad to hear they are still so far out on wayland support
01:08.05ezakimakI believe nvidia blob drivers are ready now for it
01:08.28ezakimakgnome is just so ugly and clunky
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02:54.04sgsfgjjdHi. Where does KDE store its config about what is in the application launcher, taskbar etc?
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03:05.31Zrensgsfgjjd, "in" the app launcher?
03:05.47Zrenas in, what apps are listed, or what favourites you have?
03:06.18sgsfgjjdZren: - Both? Is there a difference? I mean, I thought they are store somewhere in on place?
03:06.22Zren"in" the taskbar, would be what widgets are configured?
03:07.12Zren~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc has the panel layout + widget config.
03:07.34ZrenBut it's only read/written to when plasmashell loads/exits
03:07.57sgsfgjjdZren: In the "taskbar" I have currently running gui-apps - I know they are "automatically added" ofcs. But there are also some icons, like this one:(the chrome icon to the right of the application launcher, I want to get rid of it) http://imgur.com/a/CQbxm
03:08.22Zrenah
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03:10.13sgsfgjjdZren: In the file you mentioned, there is a section: [Containments][1][Applets][27][Configuration][General] and there is: url=file:///usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop is this possible it is what I'm looking for?
03:10.18Zrensgsfgjjd, click the button in the bottom right to edit the panel
03:10.26ZrenThen right click the icon https://i.imgur.com/quS7zlv.png
03:11.21Zrenif it was "pinned" icon part of the taskbar app list, then it would have "remove launcher"
03:11.54sgsfgjjdTHANK YOU Zren - so many hours I spent on this... I asked everywhere, Thank you very very much!
03:12.05Zrenyw
03:12.10sgsfgjjd:)
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03:23.02ezakimakin a recent upgrade, plasma lost the list of "favorites" apps from the menu
03:23.14ezakimakis there any chance that's still hiding somewhere?
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03:27.25Zrenezakimak, i doubt it, but you could look for there's multiple favoriteApps= in ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
03:29.06ezakimakonly one, and it's empty :(
03:29.38Zrenezakimak, did plasma crash recently?
03:29.45Zrenand what version of kde?
03:29.50ezakimakit crashes all the time
03:31.01ezakimakright now? frameworks 5.28.0
03:31.21ezakimakand plasma 5.8.4
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04:23.59Zrenezakimak, multiple monitors?
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07:27.02genstormezakimak: kbuildsycoca5 --noincremental
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07:39.38letharionMy krunner will frequently leave a process around, consuming all the CPU it can. Attaching with strace simply shows a single "restart_syscall(<... resuming interrupted call ...>" and it never appears to continue from there. No idea how to interpret that, googling suggets that "restart_syscall" should only be used internally by the kernel, so I don't know if I possibly have a kernel bug, or if the strace just gives a red herring.
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08:58.31ice9what's the default font for Konsole?
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09:07.05MayzieHow can I view a single message as HTML in KMail?
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09:12.34einar77_workMayzie: enable the HTML status bar in the appearance preferences
09:12.37einar77_workclick on the HTML status bar
09:12.41einar77_workit will auto-switch to HTML
09:12.49einar77_work(assuming there's an alternative HTML version available)
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12:15.01BluesKajHey folks
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13:42.20abhishek__is there any way I can access recent documents from panel?
13:42.24abhishek__A feature that is available in windows.
13:42.28abhishek__http://imgur.com/a/0c19L
13:42.34abhishek__Like I was hoping right clicking on dolphin shows me recent open files etc. Right the right is basically of not much use
13:44.13toskyabhishek__: you can access them from right click on a running dolphin
13:44.19toskyon the taskmanager
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13:48.13abhishek__tosky, can you post a snapshot.
13:49.28abhishek__on my pc tosky it shows start a new instance option
13:51.19toskyabhishek__: http://i.imgur.com/vUr15YL.png
13:51.27toskyeven if the names are empty, uhm
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13:59.53rindolfHi all! Can anyone try to reproduce this crash with gvim on a Plasma 5? It also happens in a new user - https://github.com/shlomif/bug--gvim-crash-on-kde-plasma5--reproduction
14:04.58abhishek__tosky, weird I don't get that menu
14:05.13toskyplasma 5.8?
14:05.25abhishek__tosky, yeah 5.8.4
14:05.33toskyuhm
14:06.52abhishek__tosky, http://imgur.com/a/mjqmP
14:06.54abhishek__any ideas?
14:06.59toskyno
14:07.20toskyabhishek__: is that a launcher or the task manager?
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14:07.35toskyI right-clicked on the task manager, not on a launcher
14:07.55FLHernerindolf: Not here
14:08.08abhishek__tosky, task manager means?
14:08.20rindolfFLHerne: ah, what do you run?
14:08.52FLHernerindolf: Plasma 5.8.4, gvim 8.0.8.0.0086
14:08.56FLHerne(Arch)
14:09.01rindolfFLHerne: ah.
14:09.14FLHerneWhat's supposed to crash?
14:09.43FLHerneOh, it crashed the third time :P
14:09.45rindolfFLHerne: gvim
14:09.54FLHerneThat's a bit odd
14:10.14FLHerneGot X error, finished?
14:10.22toskyabhishek__: the task manager
14:10.38toskyabhishek__: you don't have the default one, you set the "icon-only task manager"
14:11.09rindolfFLHerne: yes
14:11.26abhishek__tosky, oh... weird why doesn't the icon-only have that option.
14:11.38toskyabhishek__: no one coded it
14:11.43toskysimple to explain...
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14:13.04FLHernerindolf: Yep, reproducible quite frequently
14:13.14FLHerneSometimes not immediately after launching it
14:15.30rindolfFLHerne: I see,
14:17.22FLHernerindolf: Can't get it to happen at all on my normal setup (dwm instead of KWin, but otherwise pretending to be KDE)
14:17.29FLHerneI don't suppose that's surprising
14:18.32rindolfFLHerne: ah.
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14:30.33rindolfFLHerne: with /home/shlomif/apps/vim/bin/gvim -u NONE -U NONE t.txt +500000 '+normal zz' '+normal VGd', I am getting a reproducible crash
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14:33.37FLHernerindolf: Just adding 'd' to what you had before?
14:34.06rindolfFLHerne: yes
14:34.07FLHerneNo apparent difference here - it still crashes a high proportion of the time, but not always
14:34.15rindolfFLHerne: ah
14:35.06FLHernedoesn't know anything about how to debug WM things
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15:30.54jfmcarreiraheyyy guys
15:31.22jfmcarreirais it possible to remove the shutdown option for the KDE menu?
15:33.47ThrogktHi, just right clic on it.
15:33.53Throgkt& remove.
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15:43.07jfmcarreiraThrogkt: that only works for favourites
15:43.14jfmcarreiraand apps
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16:36.04ezakimakgenstorm: tried that. didn't fix it.
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17:38.37hendrixabhishek: there's Trojitá if you haven't tried it.
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18:03.45}ls{tried to get an answer to the following. I guess they can't respond, because it is impossible to work anymore under plasma:
18:03.49}ls{[18:02] <}ls{> one of my most needed things with plasma are the card decks for kpat. Trying to get new designs or decks results in "no categories at all". This holds true for all LEAPs. How to do this, how to get ones?
18:03.51}ls{[18:03] <}ls{> (Can't use the machine without kpat. How to survive work without?)
18:04.22}ls{tried dot get an answer IN #opensuse-kde *****
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