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04:45.05kafloopascopeCan anyone tell me what the second checkbox in the network manager applet is for? http://i.imgur.com/RDragz2.png
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04:45.30kafloopascopeAnd does the keyboard shortcut for the clipboard applet's "edit clipboard contents" work for anyone?
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12:29.20BluesKajHiyas all
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12:58.01pdobrogost_homeHi BluesKaj!
12:58.28BluesKajhi pdobrogost_home
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14:15.32YaiyanAfter logging in, my panel's completely disappeared
14:15.40YaiyanTried logging out/in again, still not there
14:15.46YaiyanAnyone know how to get it back?
14:15.48Yaiyans/panel/taskbar/
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14:22.09esa1975Is it just the panel?  Are other things loading like krunner?
14:22.30YaiyanThe panel's the only thing I've noticed -- what's krunner?
14:24.53esa1975Alt + Space
14:25.04YaiyanYeah, that works
14:25.15esa1975It's a search/launcher tool
14:25.28esa1975ok, so the session is there just a missing panel
14:25.53esa1975Can you right click desktop and add a panel?
14:26.16YaiyanThere's no add panel option when right clicking on the desktop
14:26.37esa1975Do you see an option to Unlock Widgets?
14:26.46YaiyanOh, right I see, cheers
14:26.59YaiyanYeah, that's added a new panel, ta
14:27.11YaiyanLooks like it's lost my customisations, but I guess those can be re-added
14:27.27esa1975That stinks.  Glad you got a panel though.
14:27.52YaiyanYeah, cheers
14:28.14YaiyanKDE really doesn't seem to like my dual screen
14:28.21YaiyanI wonder if that's relate
14:28.23Yaiyanrelated*
14:29.12esa1975Possibly.  I haven't tried multi-monitor but I've read that there's some issues.
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14:35.49hendrixYaiyan: probably. I had same problem and many others same or similar problems. for example this is related: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356225
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15:06.34juhajAnyone use korganizer with google? I'm having serious trouble with it…
15:06.52juhajFor some reason it only shows *some* of my subscribed google calendars: my google account has 11 calendars (my own + 10 subscribed ones); of those korganizer has suddenly stopped showning events from 3. Google finds no relevant info
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15:10.55juhajOh, korganizer *does* upload events in all 11 calendars to google, it just does not show events which have been added somewhere else
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15:33.06juhajAny idea what "akonadictl vacuum" or "akonadictl fsck" actually do? I could give them a go
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15:44.58Zren"vacuum" usually means "defrag" the database. There are empty spaces that used to be taken up by rows that were deleted. If there was a lot of empty space, it will actually shrink the db size.
15:45.49Zren"fsck" checks the integrity of the db
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15:59.42kartapuxhi everyone
16:00.54juhajZren: Either one of them likely to fix my issue?
16:02.22kartapuxI have just installed KDE on arch linux. When I make changes in a directory (for instance if I unzip an archive) Dolphin does not update. So I have to press F5 to update. Do you know how to change this ? Maybe related: when I compile a document in Lyx, the pdf does not update either in Okular
16:04.28Zrenjuhaj, they won't fix it. They're just standard maintenance tools for databases.
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16:05.21Zrenfsck could tell you if the database was corrupted, but tbh, i'd believe it to be a bug in kontact than mysql corruption.
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16:12.02juhajfsck didn't do a thing (that I can tell anyway)
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16:12.35juhajI gave up, removed and recreated the resource. That always seems to help, but is rather annoying, especially now that akonadiconsole shows absolutely nothing
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16:14.45Zrenhttps://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__all__&content=google&list_id=1401693&order=Importance&product=kontact&query_format=specific
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16:16.16ZrenHmm, didn't see anything with "events missing"
16:16.33Zrenmayhaps it's not google specific
16:17.24Zrenhttps://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__all__&list_id=1401693&order=Importance&product=kontact&query_format=specific
16:18.30Zrenjuhaj, make sure to post a bug report https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=kontact
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16:21.58juhajZren: Don't see anything which looks similar in the bug reports. Are you sure you want a bug report regardless of the fact I cannot reproduce it…
16:22.42ZrenJust mention you can't reproduce it, and how you fixed it.
16:23.16ZrenIt'll get closed if no one else reproduces it.
16:23.53ZrenBut if it happens to someone else (or to you again), at least it'll be reported.
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17:51.34kafloopascopeHow can one remove KWin scripts? rm -r ~/.local/share/kwin/scripts doesn't quite do the trick.
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17:53.37lord_robHi! What's storage manager? I'd like to have a a drag and drop way to transfer files over the cloud. Can I do that using it?
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17:56.50kafloopascopelord_rob, I haven't heard of storage manager. Is there a link or anything?
17:59.16kafloopascopeZren, if you're there, you know anything about this tooltip stutter? I've always had it with the event calendar synced to google. It happens at first, then it's all worked out for the rest of the session: https://streamable.com/mcfs
18:00.19Zreno.O
18:00.28ZrenDoe that happen to anything else?
18:00.39ZrenEg: when hovering the widgets
18:00.40lord_robstorageSERVICEmanager sorry
18:00.47kafloopascopeno, just event calendar
18:00.48lord_robit's part of kde pim
18:01.01lord_robok thanks
18:01.16kafloopascopelord_rob, that last message was for zren
18:02.00lord_robok
18:02.34kafloopascopelord_rob, sorry, I don't have any PIM stuff here, I don't know. Any cloud services in particular you're looking for?
18:04.35Zrenkafloopascope, So to reset that effect you have to log into a new session?
18:04.56kafloopascopeI'll try restarting plasmashell
18:05.30kafloopascopenot stuttering with a plasmashell restart
18:05.53Zrenkafloopascope, I reproduced it
18:06.04kafloopascopeoh wait, I restarted plasmashell again, and it did stutter, but just for a moment
18:06.18ZrenIt stutters because the event list is updating still
18:06.29Zrenhit the reload events button
18:06.34lord_robwell I have installed the official dropbox client kafloopascope, I'll see if it works
18:07.13kafloopascopeZren, the reload happens instantly, doesn't reproduce that for me
18:07.33Zrenah right... hmmm
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18:08.13lord_robI have a simillar tool for using GMail as a cloud system, can't remember its name :(
18:08.56kafloopascopelord_rob, I haven't tried it, but you might try http://joe42.github.io/CloudFusion/
18:09.01Zrenhmmm restarting plasma doesnt trigger it either
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18:09.36kafloopascopeZren, not a big deal, just kinda funny
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18:26.51lord_robThat's what I meant: Alternative Google drive client for Windows, Mac, Linux : Insync. non-free but not expensive. It costed $15 when I bought it now it's $25 for unlimited upgrades. www.insynchq.com
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18:29.11kafloopascopelord_rob, is cloudfusion a good solution for you?
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18:32.29lord_robkafloopascope: TBH I don't know because I remembered that I had already registered this program and didn't want to try something else again
18:32.38kafloopascopeah
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19:00.47Leoneofspaces between icons are too far, is there hidden option to modify it?
19:02.37pepoLeoneof, in which application?
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19:04.16Leoneofpepo: desktop, dolphin.
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19:10.57pepoyou can reduce vertical spacing by reducing the number of text lines. For dolphin you can also change the horizontal spacing using the 'Width' settings in View Modes configuration
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19:13.33piddeHi
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19:14.37pepoin filenames?
19:14.45piddePrecisely
19:15.00pepoUse convmv to convert them to UTF-8 filenames.
19:15.30piddeI can open these files with for example vlc directly, but not through dolphin
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19:53.23zoraelSome programs don't seem to scale well with the Scale Display option, with text looking semi-garbled. KDevelop is a concrete example; https://i.imgur.com/mxbHEFy.png
19:53.38zoraelAre they simply not scale desktop-ready?
19:53.44zoraeldisplay*
19:55.48piddeI'm having problems with the files not opening because it's leaving out the characters it's not using
19:55.56pidderecognizing*
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20:06.40pepopidde, and I already told you to use convmv
20:08.06piddeyeah, and I thank you for the tip. But i'm not having this problem with the same files on other systems
20:08.15piddeSo I don't know if it would help
20:08.23piddeOther KDE systems even
20:09.17pepothen maybe your locale settings are wrong. Qt applications only work when filenames use UTF-8 encoding.
20:10.43piddeThat might be it. Some other qt apps are having trouble too.
20:10.47piddeHow do i fix this?
20:11.32pepofirst make sure your locale is an UTF-8 locale, then use convmv to convert any files with other encodings to UTF-8 encoding.
20:12.23pepocheck 'set | grep LANG' on Konsole
20:12.47piddegives me:
20:12.52piddeLANG=en_SE.UTF-8
20:12.54piddeLANGUAGE=en
20:13.15piddeit needs to be sv or se somehow
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20:15.16piddepreferrably language being english but it needs to recognize swedish characters
20:16.05pepoyour character set is UTF-8, so it does recognize all characters. But your filenames may not.
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20:23.53piddeHow do i check this?
20:24.02piddeIf the filenames are correct?
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20:55.54piddeSolved!
20:56.02piddeBy changing .kde/env/setlocale.sh
20:56.15piddeAnd the locale-gen sv_SE
20:58.05blueckpidde: .kde/env/setlocale.sh is a file generated by plasma afaik - if you select a language in systemsettings translations
20:58.32piddeYes, and that windows froze for me
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20:58.58piddeSo, after duckduckgoing for hours I figured out how to do it manually
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23:18.32dylois there a bug or is this "feature" in dolphin, there isnt any progress indicator for its workloads?
23:19.54dyloand also its 7z integration dosnt make multiple files, its dump all to one package
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23:22.17pepodylo, if you mean 'Ark' for creating 7z files, it allows to create multi-volume archives since 16.08.
23:23.07dylothere is a option for it but it dosnt apply it
23:24.26dylomy version is  16.08.2 with latest kde neon
23:25.14kevin123dylo: progress is the panel
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23:29.15dylowhat panel?
23:29.35kevin123the panel with the taskbar / application launcher
23:30.45kevin123you'll see a spinning circle in the notifications, and the entry for dolpin itself will have a color which will start from the left to the right to indicate progress
23:31.09dylohmm
23:32.45dylooh i find it :) but for that in notifications, it not tell you what it is doing, there is progress bars but no any label for them
23:33.00kevin123it does for me
23:33.03kevin123hang on
23:33.15pepoif you click on the spinning wheel, you see information about the running process
23:34.16dyloit says for me "lisätään tiedostoa"  think it is in english something like "adding a file" but this isnt best way to tell what its doing
23:34.31kevin123I'd take a screenshot but the menu closes when I try
23:34.37dylok ,nlw
23:34.43dyloi know what you mean :)
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