00:05.15 | demlak | anyone got any idea why the hell dolphin does not allow to write to main/root folder of kio_slaves like mtp:// and smb:// ? writing in subfolders is possible.. and running dolphin as root makes doesn't have any problems, too.. krusader (also based on kio_slaves?!?!) doesn't have any problems on this |
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02:40.56 | tdanielson | Is 5.8 Plasma stable? |
02:41.47 | genstorm | tdanielson: best Plasma so far |
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07:58.28 | Nece228 | hello people, how can i find all my reported bugs including closed ones? |
08:00.26 | Nece228 | in bugs.kde.org |
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08:46.05 | j605 | I am wondering why proxy settings isn't part of the plasma-nm applet? |
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09:01.51 | cb400f | j605: are there proxy settings in the NetworkManager applets for other desktops? .. I would assume it has to do with the design of the NetworkManager backend |
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09:03.52 | j605 | I guess no. |
09:04.15 | j605 | going through settings is not a big deal when its needed though |
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10:49.26 | werkstattleiter | (w/o closing yakuake) |
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14:47.24 | voyl | o m g , overlay scrollbars, they just added them in or I'm just noticing them now? |
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14:51.04 | voyl | nvm, its just animation |
14:56.27 | MoPac|2 | Hello -- I'm not currently on a KDE...er...DE anymore, but I'm interested in using some applicatioins like KDE Connect, and I'm trying to wrap my head around how the dependency system works. E.g., KDE Connect on my distro requires over 250 additional packages (plasma and all). But Fedora people have said it's something much more modest for them, and I see an Arch package with only 10 dependencies |
14:58.06 | MoPac|2 | I've also read somewhere that there was some kdelibs scaffold that was supposed to help apps like this run outside of the Plasma DE, but I'm pretty ignorant of that side of things. So I'm wondering if there's a good place to find out what goes into the designation of dependencies for a given package |
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15:00.10 | pepo | the splitting of kdelibs is actually responsible for the many additional packages. They should be much smaller, though. |
15:00.30 | BluesKaj | MoPac|2, usually a decent package manager like muon will give which dependencies are required for a given package/application |
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15:02.04 | pepo | some package managers also install "recommended" packages by default, instead of just "required". Please ask in a forum of your distribution. |
15:03.01 | rdieter_work | in the context of kde-connect, it includes a plasma applet which really does require plasma (plasmashell or plasmawindowed) to work as expected |
15:03.17 | MoPac|2 | BluesKaj: So could the issue with, say, my DE Unity (or the alternative Unity PPA) be that the person packaging for that particular distro has just thrown in the K-itchen sink, rather than that the application itself needs to be able to call on all those libs? |
15:03.19 | rdieter_work | it's not a typical application |
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15:04.10 | pepo | for minimal dependencies, compile from source with optional features disabled. I think I compiled kde-connect without plasma dependencies, but not sure how useful that is. |
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15:04.58 | MoPac|2 | rdieter_work: Ah. I know that there is a Gnome-compatible indicator-kdeconnect. But I can see that if the plasma applet is integrated into the main package, it would want all those deps because it obviously doens't know it's not being installed in that DE. Makes sense |
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15:05.35 | rdieter_work | on fedora, we create a separate minimal kdeconnectd subpkg for that purpose, fwiw |
15:05.41 | rdieter_work | which is just the daemon |
15:06.01 | oscarandrea | hello, today while I git push origin master with the wrong username and now usr / bin / ksshaskpass every time I try to use push always uses the username wrong as I delete the cache of usr / bin / ksshaskpass? |
15:06.56 | MoPac|2 | pepo: I suppose I'll try that (I think it's what I did before when I had it). I just sort of figured that since there was even a dedicated PPA for it that someone made in Launchpad, and it still had all those deps, that it was a deeper issue |
15:06.58 | rdieter_work | would be nice if kdeconnect devs would offer guidance on issues like this, ... and ideally, even release the core/daemon and application/ui bits separately, imo. that way, distros would handle this better (in a more unified/consistent manner) |
15:07.01 | MoPac|2 | Thanks for the insight |
15:07.39 | oscarandrea | guys pls help |
15:08.00 | rdieter_work | as is, kdeconnect is released as one big monolithic source, so that's generally how distros provide it |
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15:09.47 | ShalokShalom | Some users could love to use dolphin as a more fully-fledged music player.. |
15:09.47 | ShalokShalom | All of you, who agree with that, can vote for this proposal with your account on KDE`s Bugtracker: |
15:10.02 | ShalokShalom | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364956 |
15:10.03 | ShalokShalom | <PROTECTED> |
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15:19.01 | oscarandrea | how to remove KDE_Wallet cache? |
15:20.24 | rdieter_work | oscarandrea: I think this has more to do with ssh/ssh-agent |
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15:20.43 | rdieter_work | oscarandrea: assuming you're using git+ssh here? |
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15:21.38 | oscarandrea | wait :) |
15:22.19 | oscarandrea | this http://imgur.com/a/Y0QVS |
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15:42.13 | tomlukeywood | I am wanting to use KDE 5 on my Trisquel 7 installation (trisquel is based on ubuntu 14.04) how would I install it? |
15:45.23 | rdieter | tomlukeywood: step 1: ask your distro |
15:45.34 | tomlukeywood | ok good point will do! |
15:45.40 | tomlukeywood | ty |
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18:22.10 | vandenoever | is there a krunner query for getting e.g. '10 am ET' in a local time? |
18:24.42 | cb400f | don't think so... but you can have the digital clock show your favourite timezonez when you hover over it |
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18:30.53 | cosmos | hnn, did they remove the option to vote for bugs? |
18:30.57 | vandenoever | cb400f: the usecase is someone from a different timezone mailiing me a date and time to meet |
18:31.36 | vandenoever | cosmos: i do not see it either |
18:33.05 | cosmos | they are on 5.0.3, which get released in May |
18:33.08 | cb400f | vandenoever: ok, at least I'm sure there are some websites that do that conversion very easily... there is a date and time plugin for krunner, but no idea what it does and how |
18:33.10 | cosmos | so maybe a regression |
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18:35.49 | vandenoever | cosmos: yeah, might be a regression. https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Krunner#Be_on_time says 'time UTC' should show current time in utc |
18:36.06 | vandenoever | ah, localization, i should ask for 'tijd' :-) |
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18:36.59 | cb400f | vandenoever: yup, I was also starting to get somewhere.. guess 'tijd est' is what you want |
18:37.13 | cb400f | but you still have to do some manual calculation |
18:39.11 | vandenoever | yeah, that i can do :-) |
18:39.26 | vandenoever | so ET is a common acronym for EST? |
18:39.38 | vandenoever | krunner was informing me about Ethiopian time |
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18:40.33 | vandenoever | i think i found a bug, 'tijd new york' does not work, perhads due to the space |
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18:41.01 | cb400f | nah, I think there just isn't a timezone of that name |
18:41.19 | cb400f | you can't pick new york as a timezone in the clock anymore either |
18:41.33 | cb400f | oh, you can.. I have it myself |
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18:42.20 | cb400f | yup, seems it doesn't like the spaces.. if you type 'tijd york' it works |
18:42.45 | cb400f | ah, and 'tijd new_york' |
18:43.02 | vandenoever | even 'ork' works :-) |
18:43.23 | cb400f | the underscore for space works with other cities too, e.g. sau paolo |
18:43.37 | cb400f | sao_paulo |
18:45.11 | cb400f | pats krunner |
18:45.54 | vandenoever | has to pat it quite often :-) |
18:48.05 | cosmos | tijd vienna does nothing here |
18:48.16 | cosmos | how is 'tijd' memorable? |
18:48.31 | vandenoever | cosmos: that's the dutch word for time |
18:48.34 | cb400f | you need the word "time" for your lang |
18:48.37 | cosmos | ah, ko |
18:48.41 | cosmos | real? xD |
18:48.46 | cosmos | tijd |
18:48.53 | cb400f | tid in DK |
18:48.57 | cosmos | sweet |
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18:49.21 | cosmos | oh cool |
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18:49.37 | vandenoever | is looking for the plugin code, the krunner repo does not seem to have the plugins |
18:49.41 | cosmos | is there a compilation/video, which shows all these cool krunner features? |
18:49.49 | cosmos | which ones? |
18:50.02 | vandenoever | cosmos: the default ones |
18:50.36 | vandenoever | cosmos: it think such a video is a great idea, the script is already in the wiki: https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Krunner |
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18:57.09 | bfish | is someone in here with both yakuake and konsole installed and would be willing to spend 2 minutes to verify an issue with me? |
18:57.23 | bfish | would be great, cause i'm not sure if its an actual bug or an issue on my end |
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18:57.52 | BluesKaj | bfish, ok explain your issue |
18:58.02 | bfish | great, thanks BluesKaj |
18:58.18 | bfish | if you open yakuake (usually f12), it opens in the foreground on top of everything else |
18:58.27 | BluesKaj | yes |
18:58.29 | bfish | now please open konsole and put it into fullscreen-mode (f11) |
18:58.42 | bfish | yakuake should still open on top of the konsole-window |
18:58.50 | bfish | now open a second konsole window |
18:59.01 | bfish | and put it into the foreground, on top of the fullscreen one |
18:59.13 | bfish | and now open yakuake |
18:59.55 | bfish | on my machine yakuake starts to open in the background (altough if you don't have transparent terminals it might look like it doesn't open at all) |
19:01.21 | bfish | I can only reproduce this behavior with 2 konsole-windows. if I replace one of them with another terminal it works just fine |
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19:03.23 | BluesKaj | uhm, why are you opening them anyway, one suffices for most purposes, bfish |
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19:04.38 | bfish | because i like coding in a fullscreen terminal with vi, running the thing with yakuake and sometimes having some documentation or something in another terminal |
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19:05.27 | bfish | i used to use termite as the fullscreen-terminal with a dark background and konsole and yakuake with a transparent one |
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19:05.58 | bfish | now i wanted to throw termite away and using two different profiles in konsole |
19:06.06 | bfish | aaaand now i get this issue ;) |
19:06.26 | bfish | but still not sure, if its just something on my machine |
19:06.39 | bfish | do you get the same behavior, BluesKaj ? |
19:07.38 | BluesKaj | whynot use a window manager like i3 or open yakuake in profile/tabs or konsole in different tabs |
19:09.03 | bfish | BluesKaj: does it really matter for the question? i guess if other people get the same behavior, it should be considered to be a bug. |
19:09.34 | bfish | if nobody else can reproduce it, then it is something with my installation (arch is probably not the most stable distro out there) |
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22:55.12 | omarramo | hello, anybody here who knows about keyboard shortcuts in kde? |
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22:58.43 | teprrr | how about just ask your question, we are in irc :) |
22:58.53 | teprrr | maybe someone answers, maybe someone doesn't. but it's worth trying |
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23:02.04 | omarramo | okay sure: I have the problem that I can't bind shift with other special(?) keys together, for example alt + ctrl + shift + direction for moving a window to another desktop doesnt work |
23:02.30 | omarramo | or even worse: alt + tab works but not alt + shift + tab, so I can only cycle in one direction x( |
23:07.00 | FLHerne | omarramo: You can't set it, or it doesn't work? |
23:07.21 | FLHerne | Seems to work here with 5.8.2 |
23:11.27 | FLHerne | Ah, there's a test added for Alt-shift-tab specifically in 5.8.0 |
23:11.44 | FLHerne | Reading between the lines, that probably means it was broken at some point |
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23:12.47 | FLHerne | What version are you using? |
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23:28.58 | cosmos | Some users could love to use dolphin as a more fully-fledged music player.. |
23:28.58 | cosmos | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364956 |
23:28.58 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
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23:34.47 | pepo | cosmos, how should a user stop the playing if he actually did not want to play it? |
23:35.31 | cosmos | with the play/pause button? |
23:35.48 | cosmos | where currently is a stop/play button? |
23:35.58 | cosmos | i mean in the sidebar, you know? |
23:36.00 | cosmos | F11 |
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