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| 00:13.50 | dtcrshr | hello everyone. I just installed mint with kde, and Im trying to setup a wacom tablet |
| 00:13.57 | dtcrshr | I can list it on xsetwacom --list devices |
| 00:14.03 | dtcrshr | but its not on the inputs on the system configs |
| 00:14.18 | dtcrshr | neither I find the "graphis tablet" app as I have in cinnamon in other machine |
| 00:14.23 | dtcrshr | can anyone help me? |
| 00:20.00 | dtcrshr | More info - http://apaste.info/63W |
| 00:20.10 | dtcrshr | my xinput, wacom list, lsusb |
| 00:28.47 | grahamperrin | Has anyone recently successfully installed kde4 with FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT? |
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| 06:54.37 | Sillypirate | Can anyone tell me why the new window decoration is applied to widgets, the toolbar but not chrome or konsole ? |
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| 06:55.26 | Sillypirate | I havent been using gnome or kde in years so im a little confused especially with all these versions of qt/gtk and whatnot |
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| 07:53.17 | Takiito | Hello |
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| 07:56.17 | Takiito | How can I add additional directories for the wallpaper dialog, so I don't have to add each wallpaper by hand? |
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| 08:00.14 | pierre^ | see here : /usr/share/wallpapers/ ... |
| 08:01.03 | leszek | Takiito: you can only add symlinks to the /usr/share/wallpaper directory. I don't think it scans any other directories. |
| 08:01.34 | Takiito | Ah ok, thanks |
| 08:01.54 | leszek | btw. I am also unhappy with it as it lacks drag and drop features like we had on every plasma/kde version before :/ |
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| 08:17.15 | geodb27 | People : hi ! How do konsole's tab titles' (local and remote) expansion work ? Strangely, whilst it is set to (%u@%H) : %w the %u (user name) and %h (remote hostname short) seems to be completely random. I'm currently connected to a host with a ssh session in my konsole, and no username is displayed and the remote hostname is not the correct one. Is that a known bug ? Should I fill in a bug report ? |
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| 11:28.50 | David_M | Hi. I tried to use Kubuntu, KDE Neon and Fedora but I had issues. In Kubuntu and Fedora I had jumping interface. It was kwin issue as I found. On KDE Neon I had turn off issue. My PC either didn't want to turn off or process took a long time. So my question is on which distributuin I can get the best KDE expirience? I'm using AMD Phenom processor, 4 GB RAM and Radeon HD6750 card. |
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| 11:30.41 | leszek | David_M: If you have kde neon still installed I would suggest upgrading the kernel to the latest vanilla kernel or using the 4.8 kernel from ubuntu yakkety |
| 11:31.30 | leszek | as for the shutdown time did you had that problem with logging out or really after logged out it kept you waiting on the plymouth shutdown screen ? |
| 11:34.11 | David_M | So that was kernel issue? My guess is the issue is with conflict between compiz and kwin as I installed Fedora with MATE and then replaced it with Plasma and I didn't liked Fedora and replaced it with Linux Mint MATE and then installed Plasma. But Linux Mint doesn't look professional, so I removed all Mint's crap and installed kubuntu-desktop and got kwin problems. I had to replace it with XFCE. |
| 11:35.47 | David_M | As I remember it could stuck at Plymouth or systemd. On Fedora I fixed jumping interface by switching OpenGL from 2.0 to 3.1 and it helped temporaly. But the issue repeated next day. |
| 11:35.49 | leszek | David_M: I was talking about KDE Neon and suggested to install a new kernel if you have shutdown issues. But as my second question suggests it might have been a different issue. I am not sure as I don't know where it actually wasted time |
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| 11:36.21 | leszek | If it is stucked at plymouth it has nothing to do with the Plasma session anymore or kwin as it isn't running anymore |
| 11:37.20 | David_M | On Linux Mint when trying to turn off it stuck at Plymouth and I pressed Esc to see what's happening. A start job is running (I don't remember exact message). But it fixed after reboot. |
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| 11:39.12 | David_M | I want to use Kubuntu if possible because It's booting fast and doesn't stuck for a few seconds at KDE splash. But I removed KDE because of bug in kwin. |
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| 11:44.46 | David_M | Is Fedora good for KDE? |
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| 11:46.51 | leszek | David_M: usually yes. They do a pretty solid job on maintaining |
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| 11:47.49 | David_M | leszek: can you please tell me what distribution do you use? |
| 11:49.00 | leszek | David_M: I have a couple here. As I am a distro developer I am using Neptune and Maui as distros here. |
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| 11:50.38 | hendrix_ | David_M: I've been using opensuse kde and it's very solid atleast on my hardware. |
| 11:50.54 | David_M | Why did developers rename Netrunner to Maui? |
| 11:51.29 | David_M | hendrix: how much time it takes to boot system? Do you use HDD or SSD? |
| 11:56.43 | hendrix | David_M: ssd, "Startup finished in 3.821s (kernel) + 1.374s (initrd) + 9.180s (userspace) = 14.375s" |
| 11:57.45 | David_M | For me it's long for SSD. That's why I didn't like Fedora and OpenSUSE. But only for these reasons. |
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| 12:23.45 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
| 12:24.27 | u53r | David_M: kde neon / opensuse / KAOS best distros with kde plasma |
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| 12:26.06 | David_M | u53r: thank you. I decided to install OpenSUSE. |
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| 12:34.04 | u53r | welcome and nice pick at start its a cultural shock if havnt used RPM based distros before :P but at the end of the day everything is Linux |
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| 12:37.50 | David_M | I tried it 2-3 times I think I didn't like that I couldn't install some 1-click apps after upgrade (for that moment 13.1-13.2). And I don't like long boot time (especially with wicked network manager) and theming. |
| 12:38.38 | David_M | Also I don't like they give 4.7 GB ISO. Why not make not more than 2 GB LiveCD? |
| 12:44.06 | u53r | kde team officially supporting KDE neon project if familiar with debian systems go with kde neon as kubuntu was now neon is |
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| 12:44.22 | u53r | theres an option for net install available |
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| 12:57.37 | sfranzen | David_M: your mileage may vary though, my opensuse TW boots in about 7.5 s |
| 12:58.17 | sfranzen | with NetworkManager |
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| 13:10.10 | u53r | i believe thats a live cd but net install isnt avail sry |
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| 14:17.20 | Mayzie | How can I view free space? |
| 14:17.45 | Sauerland | free |
| 14:17.56 | Mayzie | GUI if possible, please? |
| 14:18.21 | Mayzie | There's no properties for my root partition, and KSysGuard doesn't show free space either? |
| 14:19.43 | Sauerland | you want to see free space on disk???? |
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| 14:37.15 | fnodeuser | make possible to download files from download.kde.org with HTTPS |
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| 16:20.47 | bug2000 | Hello. Is there a way to make KDE start faster? (At the expense of some things, maybe those I don't use) |
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| 16:44.32 | bug2000 | fnodeuser ? |
| 16:44.56 | fnodeuser | remove things |
| 16:45.06 | bug2000 | XD |
| 16:45.09 | fnodeuser | :) |
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| 17:01.32 | kafloopascope | Hello! Is it expected, when using libinput with X11, for the "Reverse scrolling" kde setting to have no effect? |
| 17:02.24 | kafloopascope | I see that most touchpad settings are gray-ed out, but that one is not. |
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| 17:04.21 | rdieter | kafloopascope: any non-gray option is expected to work, if not, that's a bug that should be fixed |
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| 17:04.41 | kafloopascope | thanks rdieter, I'll check for reports and make one if necessary |
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| 17:06.24 | kafloopascope | Also, am I totally misunderstanding the Special Window Settings > Size and Position > Remember? I tell a window to remember its size and position. Then I vertically maximize the window, quit, open, and it's tiny again. I know there's the separate option specifically for vert max, but doesn't size and position cover that in a general way? |
| 17:07.37 | thiago_ | that depends on the application |
| 17:07.43 | thiago_ | some of them force the size when the window is mapped |
| 17:07.51 | thiago_ | so you may need to change to Force Initially |
| 17:08.38 | kafloopascope | thiago, but Force Initially would require me to specify the values in the box, right? I was hoping to use Remember so that the window would just do whatever I last did. |
| 17:08.56 | kafloopascope | the window in question is the global keyboard shortcuts window |
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| 17:15.53 | kafloopascope | huh, and am I misunderstanding Apply Initially? The Apply Initially width is wider than the actual width whenever I launch. |
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| 17:24.24 | kafloopascope | Is there just a simple way to get ALL windows to be the same size as they were previously, matched by window title? |
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| 18:07.15 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
| 18:07.29 | cousin_luigi | Is it normal that tray icons aren't resized with the panel? |
| 18:08.15 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: yes (I think so) |
| 18:08.27 | Walex | kafloopascope: session managem ent |
| 18:08.42 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: No way of having them resized? They're too tiny on my screen. |
| 18:09.02 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: if I recall, there's a hidden setting for it (not exposed in UI) |
| 18:09.08 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: hmm |
| 18:09.10 | rdieter | looks |
| 18:09.54 | kafloopascope | Walex, can you be more specific/ |
| 18:11.10 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: ok, I was wrong, looks like size is static (at least in 5.7.x) |
| 18:11.16 | cousin_luigi | :| |
| 18:12.23 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: you can edit the qml, I'm looking to see where |
| 18:13.02 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray/contents/ui/main.qml |
| 18:13.11 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: thanks |
| 18:13.17 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: this line: property int itemSize: units.roundToIconSize(Math.min(Math.min(width, height), units.iconSizes.smallMedium)) |
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| 18:14.07 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: try s/smallMedium/medium/ |
| 18:14.44 | rdieter | well, you get the idea |
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| 18:15.13 | rdieter | (or vice-versa) |
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| 18:16.32 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: Any idea why this feature is not exposed or automated? This is not gnome-shell, you know;) |
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| 18:19.04 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365570 for some comments/discussion |
| 18:19.21 | rdieter | I *think* 5.8 is supposed to be better in this regard |
| 18:19.28 | cousin_luigi | great |
| 18:19.33 | cousin_luigi | the one I'm going to use |
| 18:20.08 | cousin_luigi | But that bug seems to be another problem, namely icons not adapting correctly |
| 18:20.09 | rdieter | prior to 5.8 it doesn't handle hidpi (well), is my take on it. |
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| 18:20.19 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: is yours a hidpi screen? |
| 18:20.29 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: nope |
| 18:20.32 | genstorm | rdieter: I'm running 5.8 branch and can't confirm that |
| 18:20.48 | rdieter | I know the code changed a bit at least |
| 18:20.54 | genstorm | oh well, the size is right by default, but they don't resize |
| 18:21.08 | rdieter | genstorm: they don't resize in 5.7 either, fwiw |
| 18:21.16 | rdieter | seems cousin_luigi wanted resizing though |
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| 18:21.53 | genstorm | they did look too small on my 4k 24" screen though, but I don't know when that was last rebuilt |
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| 18:22.15 | cousin_luigi | Perhaps I should pester our good mgraesslin |
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| 18:54.36 | Taoki | Hi. I have a question... |
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| 18:55.16 | Taoki | I just found out that you can use "xprop -f _KDE_NET_WM_BLUR_BEHIND_REGION 32c -set _KDE_NET_WM_BLUR_BEHIND_REGION 0" in order to make any transparent window use the blur effect. I definitely want to have this on Konsule and KVIrc! However, is it possible to automate it in a better way, so I don't have to do it manually? |
| 18:55.28 | Taoki | Like is it possible to launch the program itself with it as an argument? |
| 18:56.01 | Taoki | Even better... could I add a line with it in ~/.profilerc to make it automatically work for all windows (like it should be anyway)? |
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| 18:57.35 | moparisthebest | in Dolphin, whenever I hit the delete key or shift+delete, it segfaults, any ideas? |
| 18:58.01 | Guest95060 | I'm running Neon devel stable and I need to produce a backtrace for a crash of plasma. The crash helper complains that this two files /usr/bin/plasmashell /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Qml.so.5 don't have debug symbols. Though plasma-workspace-dbg is installed, any suggestion? |
| 18:58.11 | moparisthebest | dolphin 16.08.1 looks like the version |
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| 18:59.06 | moparisthebest | right-click -> delete with the mouse also segfaults |
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| 19:05.45 | u53r | hello, keeping mouse at windows border gives option to resize? |
| 19:07.21 | SporkWitch | yes? |
| 19:08.12 | u53r | is that confirming or asking something :-s |
| 19:08.45 | SporkWitch | both |
| 19:09.09 | u53r | if i recall correctly i was able to snap windows edge to resize |
| 19:09.21 | SporkWitch | it was a very strange question, so it was both answering what you asked (yes, one typically resizes windows by moving the cursor to the border), and asking what thereal question is, since that clearly couldn't be it |
| 19:09.29 | u53r | its working by holding alt+right clicking window |
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| 19:09.47 | u53r | but that edge snapping isnt working |
| 19:10.27 | SporkWitch | ah, you mean screen border, not window border; yes, if you drag it near the window borders it should snap (configurable in settings, including how aggressive it is), and top-center, or middle-sides for maximize and half-screen tile, respectively |
| 19:10.31 | SporkWitch | (again, by defaults) |
| 19:12.04 | u53r | hmm i know abt tiling but thats something different m asking lemme show a vid :-s |
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| 19:12.45 | u53r | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JySesIHawmg |
| 19:13.35 | u53r | does plasma give option to resize border by snapping current window(can be dolphin/firefox) edge snap |
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| 19:16.39 | SporkWitch | i'm nto sure what that has to do with the video; the symptoms in the video are generally an indication of weak hardware, bad / incorrect drivers, or acceleration not being used |
| 19:17.00 | SporkWitch | the snapping you're describing sounds like what i was talking about, to which the answer is yes |
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| 19:18.08 | u53r | are u able to resize opened windows just by snapping corners? [withouth touching alt key or using tile option] |
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| 19:21.00 | cousin_luigi | fnodeuser: Can I help? |
| 19:21.14 | fnodeuser | where is mario? |
| 19:21.24 | cousin_luigi | I see. |
| 19:21.36 | fnodeuser | then you cannot help |
| 19:23.48 | SporkWitch | u53r: yes, that is how one normally resizes windows... |
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| 19:26.55 | u53r | ahem seems i broke something then |
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| 21:44.58 | gobostone | is there an onscreen keyboard that I can set to another language for accents? |
| 21:45.07 | gobostone | I'm trying to learn/type in french and need them easily available |
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| 21:55.33 | reactormonk | How can I make kde go to suspend also when the screen is locked? |
| 21:55.46 | reactormonk | ... when pressing the power button. |
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| 22:08.11 | valorie | reactormonk: alt+f2 and type suspend |
| 22:08.19 | valorie | you'll get a number of options |
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| 22:15.04 | reactormonk | valorie, can't get it do it just on power button press? |
| 22:15.41 | valorie | not sure, I've not tried, reactormonk |
| 22:15.53 | valorie | that may be possible through systemsettings |
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| 22:24.20 | gobostone | anyone know what the kde on screen keyboard package is called? I can't get it running |
| 22:27.24 | valorie | it's a widget afaik |
| 22:27.45 | valorie | you get it from the "hamburger" menu - add widgets |
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| 23:23.08 | kanrao | serious question: what's the point of spending time and effort on making KDE Neon instead of fixing and improving KDE5? :o |
| 23:24.00 | kanrao | I can think of many improvements to be done to Dolphin for example |
| 23:24.30 | kanrao | (favourite file manager by far but still lacking in places) |
| 23:46.02 | valorie | kanrao: the people producing neon are plasma developers as well |
| 23:46.13 | valorie | btw, there is no "kde5" |
| 23:46.44 | valorie | afaik Dolphin is getting a new maintainer |
| 23:46.53 | valorie | so look for further improvements |
| 23:47.07 | valorie | it's already rather awesome IMO |
| 23:47.18 | valorie | and I was a slow adopter of it back in the day |
| 23:56.04 | kanrao | well, if they're the same people, my point still stands. It feels like a bit of a waste of time (from my point of view, I'm probably clueless) |
| 23:56.35 | kanrao | maintaining a distro is a huge endeavour |
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