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07:43.31lordievaderGood morning.
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08:07.45FannaHi, So i am using kde neon, how do i move the taskbar to my other monitor ? i have a way to do it to basically "glitch" it to my left monitor as of how i want it but I need to do this each time i switch on my pc. isn't there like a save monitor configuration of some sort ?
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08:09.29hateballFanna: rightclick panel, edit settings, drag it to the other monitor
08:09.53hateballusing the screen edge option thingy
08:10.44FannaI will give it a try thank you!
08:11.35Fannabeen using kde for a few days now so i am new with all the gadgets it has
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08:12.40Fannahateball: do you use kde connect ? the phone to desktop syncing application. I have a problem with it and i can't find an answer online
08:14.07hateballFanna: I do, sparingly
08:14.30hateballmostly shared clipboard and using phone as mouse
08:15.15Fannaso my phone is connected to a router (because it is closer than the main modem in the house)  while my pc is a wired connection to the modem, the router is linked to the main modem, kde connect doesn
08:15.50Fannadoesn't seem to find my phone, even by inputting the ip
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08:19.10FannaI believe so now that i think about it , but i have used other remotes like unified remote before (even on arch) and it worked fine.
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08:21.55hateballafaik you need to be on the same subnet
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08:25.06Fannathe router ip is in 192.168 range where the modem is on 10.0.0 ugh haha
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09:15.32sisten_New kde user here that might need some help. Switched for a few years using bspwm. Installed a kwin tiling scripts and it seems to work great. It says that you should be able to set keybindings in settings under global shortcuts>kwin. My problem is that there isnt any kwin category
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09:16.17sisten_anyone knows what could be the problem?
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11:13.05shtrbIs there a way in Kontact to know how much space an IMAP folder take on the server before syncing it ?
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11:44.08looohi
11:44.18shtrbhi
11:44.22looois there a way to disble  k wallet
11:44.32loooopens with chrome
11:44.37loooevery time
11:44.55looomaade me delete her then the ehole kde wwaas down
11:45.06loooam using openssuse
11:45.09looo42.1
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11:56.35shtrbloo I think there is a setting in chrome that link to your wallet (and many website will try to get your key/pwd from the wallet)
11:58.00loooso what should i do
11:58.45shtrbjust disable the option in chrome to access your walet
12:00.08looook i will search for that
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12:01.51adroit_machineHello guys, I have downloaded faenza theme for kde, now how  do I  install it?
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12:02.39Tearadroit_machine: that's an icon theme, so in icons (in system settings)
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12:03.33adroit_machineTear: how do I select it to install as icons in kde?
12:04.25Teari'm not on it right now but i believe you just install from file in icon settings
12:05.23adroit_machineok thanks, Tear. But unfortunately  there is no option to select it from system settings/icons
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12:09.01looothank you shtrb
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12:09.28BluesKajHiyas all
12:10.17shtrblooo , it worked ?
12:10.26leszekadroit_machine: extract the icon archive to ~/.local/share/icons or globally /usr/share/icons
12:10.51leszekadroit_machine: it should then appear in systemsettings icon chooser
12:11.54leszeklooo: I would suggest using kwallet with pam that should automatically unlock your wallet on login (if you don't use autologin which might create problems)
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12:16.19loooi installed kwalletmanager unchick the first choise and until  now its ok
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12:16.28loooand yes am  usig auto login
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12:21.11leszekah ok
12:30.31looothank you leszek
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16:52.13bernhardis the a known memory problem within plasamshell? It currently uses 2.8GB RAM here.
16:52.26bernhardI'm on KDE Neon
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16:52.42Zrenbernhard, Check your ~/.xsession-errors log
16:56.01hexnewbieHow do you get rid of Lancelot on KDE 4? I want it to stop loading my disk to 100%, to stop showing me warnings on startup and to stop popping up when I want to open my window manager menu with Alt+F3.
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16:57.13bernhardZren: it is 6MB of log entries. I'm not sure what to look for
16:57.49hexnewbieI got rid of it on one computer, but I can't remember what I did. Grepped my session file, nothing for it in it.
16:58.12Zrenbernhard, http://www.hastebin.com/ the last 1000 lines or so.
16:59.09hexnewbieForget that. It's ksmserverrc
16:59.15ZrenWhatever error is happening is persistent, so it makes sense it would be repeated a lot.
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17:22.51bernhardwow how can a single log file contain so much sensitive data...
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17:25.48ZrenYeah... sorry bernhard. I personally log a bunch of google calendar stuff there with event calendar so I'm part of the problem. >.<'
17:26.55sfranzenit's your private session log though, doesn't matter if there's some naughty stuff in there ;)
17:27.09Zrenbernhard, Did you find anything like "icon" or "image" that gets repeated?
17:27.20bernhardyeah
17:27.31bernhardkde.xembedsniproxy: No xembed icon for 117440516 "gajim"
17:27.31bernhardkde.xembedsniproxy: Skip transparent xembed icon for 117440516 "gajim"
17:27.44bernhardgets reported a lot >4000x
17:28.16bernhardand thumbnailing logs every file and therefore produces a lot of lines
17:29.00Zrenbernhard, What version of kde btw?
17:29.46bernhardPlasam 5.7.4; Frameworks 5.25; Qt 5.7
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17:34.00Zrenbernhard, Any transparent icons?
17:34.36ZrenWhat applications are in your system tray?
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17:36.08bernhardsystem tray: quassel; device manager, discover updater, kmail, gajim, keylayout switcher, audio (play/pause), network, kdeconnect, klipper, volume
17:37.05bernhardand in the dropout menu: kleoprata, vlc, owncloud, kwallet (has currently no icon), printer
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17:57.06aarontc_can anyone suggest the right sort of search terms for figuring out why my panels rearrange themselves every time my computer wakes up (from sleep or just DPMS power saving)
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18:01.49SporkWitchaarontc_: multi-monitor?
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18:17.08vstemenHi.  the standard keyboard shortcuts shows Ctrl+Shift+F enters full screen mode but it has no effect.  Does anybody know why?  I want to have a shortcut to toggle full screen mode on windows.
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18:23.13vstemenI found it.  It is  under global shortcuts.  I don't know what the one under standard shortcuts is for.  It does nothing.
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18:55.18kafloopascopeHas anyone else experience "ghosting" -- keep a light app focused for a few minutes, bring up a dark app, see the faint image of the light app on top of the dark one for a few minutes -- especially with intel?
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19:06.08Zrenkafloopascope, Does it show up in the video when you record the screen with say, simplescreenrecorder?
19:07.47ZrenIf not, it's a hardware thing... CRT Monitor?
19:08.59kafloopascopeZren, IPS on a laptop. I'll see if I can capture it.
19:10.06sfranzenkafloopascope: My IPS panel has some tendency to do this, not quite so extreme though
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19:30.42SJrIn Kate how do I get the 10th backreference or more, It seems to parse it as \1 and put a zero.
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19:31.41ClifspeareHey.  Were the various talks of QtCon/Akademy recorded anywhere?
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19:42.56rdieterClifspeare: yes, https://streaming.media.ccc.de/qtcon16/relive/
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19:56.09ClifspeareThanks!
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20:06.28tusharsoni08Do you guys have any algorithmic based project in c++
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20:56.43aarontc_SporkWitch: yeah, three displays. The behavior has been wrong since plasma 5 - every version has a different behavior, currently I end up with two panels on one display every time I wake up the system (version 5.7.4)
20:57.42SporkWitchaarontc_: i've mostly run into it when drivers changed / updated, or a display changed (say cable swap or something)
20:58.07SporkWitchaarontc_: it seems to be a matter of it reverting to fewer displays and so it moves the panels and other widgets from the lost display to one of the remaining
20:58.10aarontc_well, probably part of the complexity is that displayport monitors, when asleep, appear as disconnected to the host :(
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20:58.25SporkWitchthat would explain why you see it more consistently than i do
20:58.39aarontc_but this was never a problem on the 4.x series
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20:58.50aarontc_probably some new-fangled hotplugging "feature" lol
20:59.08SporkWitchi still use DVI (and will continue to avoid display port as long as I can; it's not needed, it's overpriced, finding compatible devices is a pain and more expensive, and i don't have a stockpile of spare cables handy)
20:59.41SporkWitchnot sure; KDE5 (and even more so, kubuntu 16.04 as a whole; yes i know the projects are separate) seems to be one giant regression after another
21:00.09aarontc_heh, it's interesting you feel that way - totally off subject but displayport is my personal preference over hdmi. DVI is great but it's fading out fast, hdmi has much higher licensing fees and such, displayport is a free and open standard
21:01.20aarontc_As for the issue at hand, I was hoping to find a way to write a bash script that will remove all my panels, then build them again. I can trigger that when the machine awakens and I'd be happy at least
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21:02.14SporkWitchthat's well beyond what i can help with, heh
21:02.18SporkWitchsorry mate
21:03.32aarontc_hmm. I tried disabling the KScreen2 service, and I thought the issue had gone away, (windows quit moving between screens after wakeup) but the panels still get stacked in weird places
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21:04.51aarontc_I am so far behind on qt development, this is why I was asking for the right keywords
21:05.05aarontc_in plasma 4 I could hook into dbus and see all the notifications flying around to at least have a hint as to where to look
21:05.13aarontc_in 5 dbus doesn't seem to be a thing anymore
21:05.49SporkWitchqdbus is definitely still a thing, but i think some of the names changed
21:06.36SporkWitchi know i had to modify the lock-on-remove script i use with my yubikey quite a bit, because the KDE commands it used don't work in 5
21:09.09aarontc_maybe qdbus is what I needed. in 4 I had kdbus :)
21:10.36aarontc_thanks!
21:10.40sfranzenaarontc_: dvratil is what you need ;)
21:11.00sfranzenI fired a bunch of bug reports at him when I had kscreen issues until they were gone :P
21:11.17dvratilaarontc_: for dbus monitoring  use dbus-monitor
21:11.25dvratilfor kscreen issues talk to sebas :-)
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21:13.50aarontc_I would certainly appreciate help in debugging the issue, I'm mostly not sure where to start. I don't think it's a kscreen problem because with that service disabled, my panels still rearrange themselves
21:15.11aarontc_I will try dbus-monitor and see if I can get a clue what is causing the rearrangement. thanks :)
21:16.44dvoid_does newer versions of kde have some kind of automatic compositing disable feature? because i constantly find compositing to be disabled and i have to manually enable it again. very anoying. never had this kind of problems before
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21:23.00kafloopascopeHello! So is it just me, or does setting a panel to autohide while desktop edge switching is enabled just make the panel completely inaccessible?
21:23.33SporkWitchdvoid_: i ran into that the other day, compositing wasn't OCCURRING but settings showed it enabled.  Worked fine the next day when i booted it up again.
21:23.55SporkWitchkafloopascope: if you have the panel on a screen edge it would certainly make it very challenging, lol
21:24.24dvoid_i find it disabled so i press shift+alt+f12 to enabled it again and it works for a while
21:24.33SporkWitchkafloopascope: default key combo (in kubuntu, dunno if it's kde-wide) to open the menu is alt+f1
21:24.45SporkWitchdvoid_: i'll have to remember that combo and try it if i bump into the issue again
21:25.17kafloopascopeSporkWitch, yeah, it seems pretty broken. I only have two virtual desktops, stacked vertically, and I keep plank on the side. I wanted to replace plank with Now Dock, but I can't while this is how things "work"
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21:25.35kafloopascopeSporkWitch, what good would a menu do me? I don't have any menus on any panels
21:27.39SporkWitchcouldn't tell you; i do 99% of my stuff from the CLI lol
21:28.26SporkWitchi have a half dozen GUI apps sitting in my Favourites on the kicker, and anything else i either navigate the menu or type to search.  Most of my interaction outside of games and web browsers is keyboard-based, because fuck the rat lol
21:32.44sfranzendvoid_: there is an option "Enable compositor in startup" somewhere in system settings that may be unset
21:32.53sfranzenon* startup
21:33.40sfranzendvoid_: Display and Monitor > Compositor
21:34.29dvoid_sfranzen: its enabled, problem is that is disabling it self
21:35.00dvoid_i think in the past, that it has disabled it self if where where some conciderable slowdowns. but then it showed some kind of notification etc
21:35.27dvoid_hum..interesting
21:35.44dvoid_i think it is disabling it self when i run an opengl application
21:35.55dvoid_(not fullscreen)
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21:39.27dvoid_hum, it seems to enable compositing again when i exit the opengl application...this has to be a setting somewhere
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21:41.36Leoneofhi, is it possible to let dolphin to display filename beside icon like Windows explorer?
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21:49.11sfranzenLeoneof: yes, try the compact/detail view buttons on the toolbar
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21:53.59kafloopascopeZren, btw, it looks like the ghosting is not captured by screenshots.
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