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| 00:56.54 | schnoodles | So is C++ the main language to code KDE applications? Is their any other languages which are supported rather well like PYthon or even Vala (I know it is Gnome) |
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| 01:24.07 | jonnyblaze | hi im trying to run a script that uses xwininfo and xprop to remove the panel shadow at startup but its not working. if i run the script from terminal after startup it works fine, any ideas what im doing wrong? |
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| 01:34.10 | Jucato | schnoodles: yes @ C++, because Qt is a C++ framework. Javascript is a secondary language by virtue of QML (and QtScript/QJSEngine). there are python bindings for Qt (PyQt) but not sure about the state of "PyKDE" (being renamed now). I don't think there are Vala bindings at all for Qt or KDE Frameworks |
| 01:34.34 | Jucato | jonnyblaze: i'm not completely sure, but i think you need to have a .desktop file that runs the script in ~/.config/autostart/ |
| 01:37.22 | jonnyblaze | Jucato, ok, i'll try that |
| 01:38.20 | Jucato | i think my sentence might be ambiguous. it's the .desktop file that should be in ~/.config/autostart |
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| 01:42.41 | jonnyblaze | yeah, i understand |
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| 01:47.55 | jonnyblaze | Jucato, no, that did not work |
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| 01:50.22 | schnoodles | Ah ok so C++ is really the preferred language. Maybe I could look at QML/JavaScript. Do you know of any Applications which may have been written in that so I can view the source and get an idea? |
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| 01:52.56 | Jucato | jonnyblaze: for reference, i have this https://paste.kde.org/pd0z4cuno |
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| 01:54.12 | Jucato | schnoodles: well, the entire Plasma 5 workspace ("desktop") uses QML. of course not written purely in it. i don't think there are nn-trivial "pure" QML applications anyway (i could be wrong) |
| 01:57.17 | Jucato | can't think of a simpler QML-based KDE software from the top of my head. there will be a lot outside of KDE software of course |
| 01:58.06 | schnoodles | Yeah I will look into it. I know a fair few higher level languages but my C++ is very very rusty and I really do not have time to learn it all again :o |
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| 02:21.38 | kalib | Hello. Did anyone already try to use a UST to DVI adaptor in order to have a second monitor connected or, in my case (laptop) use it to connect a third monitor, assuming the laptopt as first screen, and already using another monitor via hdmi as the second screen, so connecting the third one via a USB to DVI adaptor. I am running Archlinux with KDE Plasma. Wondering if that would work, before buying the adapter |
| 02:21.40 | kalib | and other monitor. |
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| 02:41.05 | jonnyblaze | hi i cant get this script i found on the archwiki to run on startup, can someone help me? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE#Disable_panel_shadow |
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| 16:36.50 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.7 and KDE Applications 16.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 16:48.10 | genstorm | nocomply: depends on the size of your ~ |
| 16:49.26 | nocomply | I think it's around 450gb genstorm but it still has 195071 files to go :/ |
| 16:49.37 | genstorm | well, that's quite big |
| 16:49.48 | genstorm | so I'm not surprised at the size of the index |
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| 16:50.27 | genstorm | nocomply: do you need that all indexed? |
| 16:50.59 | genstorm | just exclude subdirs you don't need indexed |
| 16:51.45 | nocomply | genstorm: I don't know, I'm fairly new to kde. If the index file is this kind of size I think I'll just stick to mlocate |
| 16:52.19 | genstorm | nocomply: go to systemsettings / search |
| 16:56.10 | nocomply | Why is it so big though? My mlocate database is 15mb |
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| 16:58.13 | genstorm | mlocate does only search for files, not _in_ files/metadata, does it? |
| 16:59.27 | nocomply | no don't think so, I didn't know baloo did either |
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| 17:41.56 | sadario | Hi. After an hour or so of googling, I still haven't found a solution for something that shouldn't be a problem at all. Ubuntu does it easily, but Kubuntu doesn't seem to have the option to easily swap between two connected audio-devices (USB-headset and 5.1-speakers). Is there anyone who would be able to enlighten me on this? |
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| 17:43.15 | thiago | run pavucontrol and change there |
| 17:43.35 | thiago | one of the two volume control widgets in plasma can do it too |
| 17:43.55 | thiago | but until there's only one that is fully capable, I can't recommend that to people |
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| 17:52.16 | fireglow | Wasn't klook to be included into Dolphin at some point in the past? This post suggests that: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=89330&start=15#p247834 |
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| 17:55.48 | sadario | pavucontrol worked wonders, thanks |
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| 18:05.51 | ezakimak | how do you delete something from the panel???? |
| 18:05.51 | ezakimak | I accidentally dragged the weather widget onto the panel, now can't get rid of it |
| 18:06.34 | ezakimak | also, why do rmb context menus always open directly under the mouse w/something already selected?? that is also causing headaches--accidental clicks |
| 18:07.11 | ezakimak | esp since it *glitches*--so w/o actually selecting stuff--it selects stuff!! |
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| 18:08.44 | ezakimak | it keeps reopening FF on me--which is a nightmare, since the default session has over 50 windows |
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| 18:12.37 | ezakimak | found it. thank-godz. so not obvious. |
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| 18:16.31 | ezakimak | the remove needs to be lifted to the main rmb menu along with the 'add' functions. it's the first place you'd expect to find it |
| 18:16.44 | ezakimak | add and settings entries |
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| 18:20.56 | Zren | ezakimak, Most people don't lock the widgets afterwards (since it's unlocked by default). Even though there's an undo button, you don't want do make deleting the widget that easy. |
| 18:21.46 | ezakimak | there's an undo button? |
| 18:22.01 | ezakimak | never saw that either |
| 18:22.04 | genstorm | an undo notification |
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| 18:22.24 | ezakimak | so, out-of-band also. that's also less effective |
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| 18:22.25 | genstorm | rather, an undo button in the removal notification |
| 18:22.33 | ezakimak | oh, I saw that. |
| 18:22.46 | ezakimak | but there was nothing when I accidentally dragged it from the desktop to the panel |
| 18:23.06 | genstorm | that's not removal |
| 18:23.06 | ezakimak | it actually crashed the panel, which restarts by itself |
| 18:23.16 | ezakimak | it was removal from the desktop though |
| 18:23.31 | genstorm | panel is still desktop |
| 18:23.40 | ezakimak | and it wouldn't let me just drag it back |
| 18:23.50 | ezakimak | seems asymmetrical there |
| 18:24.11 | ezakimak | the glitchy rmb context menu also occurs in konqueror |
| 18:24.17 | genstorm | that's true, since it is not possible to go back from panel, it would warrant an undo action |
| 18:24.34 | ezakimak | that is a huge usability bug |
| 18:25.29 | ezakimak | the rmb context menu sometimes flashes away, and whatever action the mouse happens to be over gets triggered--even though I haven't actually selected anything or depressed rmb, and when it comes right back, it's still an active context menu allowing further interaction |
| 18:25.42 | ezakimak | not cool. |
| 18:26.03 | ezakimak | esp in this case where the first action under the mouse is to open bloody FF w/50 windows on me |
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| 19:15.13 | myoweech | is there a default keyboard shortcut to move focus from places to view to terminal in dolphin? |
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| 19:26.18 | Zren | myoweech, double tap f4 maybe? |
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| 19:27.08 | Zren | ah no, that cancels whatever's running. |
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| 19:36.43 | myoweech | Zren: yea it works fine getting the focus into the term not so much getting out. i blame midnight commander for even caring at all. |
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| 19:41.59 | jaggz | I can't find the "activate window on mouse hover" options in my new kde in debian stretch |
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| 19:44.08 | thiago | Alt+F2, type: Focus |
| 19:45.09 | jaggz | I lost my alt-f2 .. need to remap it |
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| 19:45.43 | thiago | then whatever you remapped it to |
| 19:46.17 | jaggz | I didn't.. just set alt-f2 to desktop 2 |
| 19:46.21 | jaggz | trying to map it now |
| 19:46.24 | jaggz | what was it? |
| 19:46.30 | thiago | krunner |
| 19:46.40 | thiago | there's a secondary shortcut with Alt+Space |
| 19:47.23 | kakadu | Folks, how should I adjust interval between lines? I have updated from repo 2 days ago and now intervals in konversations are too large. Is it system configuration or application-specific? |
| 19:47.33 | jaggz | thiago, thanks :) |
| 19:47.36 | kakadu | in Konversation* |
| 19:47.46 | jaggz | hmm.. I wonder where that is in the settings |
| 19:47.56 | jaggz | got it set at least.. (mouse hover activate) |
| 19:54.11 | myoweech | shift+tab seems to work fine cycling dolphin focus. so far ive only found it goes one way, no forward and back just cycle around. |
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| 23:09.15 | R13ose | Everytime I restart my laptop, the application files opens up and can't figure out why. How do I stop that from opening? |
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| 23:15.13 | ZrenHelp | R13ose, I think the default is to load the saved session. |
| 23:15.42 | ZrenHelp | There's probably a checkbox somewhere to turn that off. |
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| 23:17.58 | manjaro-kde5 | hello |
| 23:18.07 | manjaro-kde5 | someone over here? |
| 23:18.09 | R13ose | ZrenHelp: yes but that is never open when I reboot the laptop |
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| 23:19.05 | manjaro-kde5 | i have a question, i am having a longs time to start plasma 5, so there is a way ti debug which one is the problem? |
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| 23:20.32 | Saeron | a form to see what is doing the plasma 5 retard? |
| 23:20.43 | ZrenHelp | R13ose, it's never open when you boot it? but it opens up? huh? |
| 23:21.26 | ZrenHelp | Saeron, black screen? |
| 23:21.34 | Saeron | ye sometimes |
| 23:21.41 | ahjolinna | Saeron: if u where using Manjaro I would ask #manjaro channel first, its usually more of distro problem |
| 23:21.48 | ZrenHelp | Do it eventually boot into plasma? |
| 23:21.49 | Saeron | but i am actually using plasma 5 for this |
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| 23:22.01 | R13ose | ZrenHelp: I mean when I reboot my laptop, I don't have the files application open. When you say loads the saved session, isn't that the apps that are already open? |
| 23:22.06 | Saeron | i think is not a manjaro problem |
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| 23:22.29 | Saeron | i am not looking esactly for solutions |
| 23:22.51 | Saeron | i just want to know the way to debug the plasma 5 start |
| 23:22.56 | ZrenHelp | R13ose, The saved session doesn't have to be the previous session. You could save a "default" session to load each time. |
| 23:23.03 | Saeron | for see first where is the real problem |
| 23:23.26 | R13ose | ZrenHelp: oh, I don't think I did that |
| 23:23.28 | ZrenHelp | Saeron, ~/.xsession-errors |
| 23:24.42 | Saeron | ZrenHelp: woooo is a big file |
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| 23:45.47 | keithzg | So, how in the world do I actually get KDE Connect to work when specifying a hostname or IP address? They never actually show up in the list of devices . . . |
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| 23:53.33 | R13ose | ZrenHelp: I think you are right about the sessions. |