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| 00:33.24 | mystica555 | ...am i the only person experiencing near constant kicker failures? |
| 00:33.34 | mystica555 | ermm krunner |
| 00:33.41 | mystica555 | gah cant even remember the name it pisses me off so much |
| 00:33.54 | mystica555 | i start typing 'google-chrom(typo)(backspace)--crash |
| 00:34.06 | mystica555 | almost guaranteed a crash in this instance. |
| 00:34.08 | mystica555 | =why- |
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| 02:05.30 | themill | Is there an mpd client for plasma 5? Ripping out the python script host has killed the one I had been using. Play/Pause/Track info is enough for me |
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| 02:18.15 | Zren | mystica555, baloo is crashing or soemthing |
| 02:18.22 | Zren | krunner will crash too |
| 02:18.38 | Zren | i "fixed" it by deleting one of the baloo files |
| 02:21.09 | Zren | mystica555, try backing up then deleting ~/.local/share/baloo/index |
| 02:21.21 | Zren | I _think_ that was the file, but can't remember. |
| 02:22.09 | Zren | (then restart plasmashell after running moving it) |
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| 02:25.07 | jaggz | how do you make a keyboard shortcut that applies only to a specific window (konsole in this case)? |
| 02:28.14 | jaggz | actually I found a solution -- just bindkey in screen |
| 02:28.20 | jaggz | but it'd still be nice to know how to do it in kde |
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| 02:44.39 | mystica555 | Zren: hmmmm |
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| 04:23.35 | jonnyblaze | does anyone know of a way to restore borders to windows once you have removed them? |
| 04:24.36 | valorie | in systemsettings maybe? |
| 04:25.04 | valorie | I would just type window borders into krunner if it were me |
| 04:25.17 | valorie | alt+f2 or alt+space |
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| 06:46.34 | Tuxick | lo, in https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/kcmsmserver/ i read "Confirm logout: ... n this dialog you can also choose whether you want to restore your current session when you login the next time. |
| 06:46.47 | Tuxick | "i don't see that, and i'd rather have this default anyway |
| 06:47.00 | Tuxick | so who/what's up with this? |
| 06:52.13 | rindolf | Tuxick: hi, don't know. |
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| 10:24.01 | GeekNerd | should we make fun of dead lilo? |
| 10:24.31 | GeekNerd | !ops lilo's death was his own fault for riding a bike recklessly |
| 10:24.47 | GeekNerd | !ops lets all make fun of dead people! |
| 10:31.55 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
| 10:32.05 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
| 10:32.31 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
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| 10:35.03 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
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| 10:39.26 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
| 10:39.27 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
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| 10:39.41 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
| 10:39.42 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
| 10:39.43 | GeekNerd | LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
| 10:40.03 | GeekNerd | [spoiler], _2M1R__, aarontc, abner_, acheronuk, AciD`, Addle, aditi_gupta, afx237, aheinecke_: |
| 10:40.36 | GeekNerd | ahiemstra_, ahjolinna, aj007, Aji-Dahaka, akaWolf, alexandros_c, alextai, alienBOB, aljosa, Amadiro, Ammler, Andrew_K, apt, apus, areisp_, ArGGu^^, argo, armands, asdofindia, ashaman, ashka, Avihay, Azelphur, azrdev, b00k3r, balkamos, bananagram, BananaMagician, barlas, Basstard`, beencubed, benonsoftware, bernhard, bfoote, Bhaal, bittin, bittyx, blablablub, Blizzz: |
| 10:40.55 | GeekNerd | bluelightning, bollo, bootkiller, boubbin_, bowlofeggs, bp0, brad[], braderhart, break3r, breeden, brot, bugzbunny, bugzy, buriedalive, Calinou, chek2fire, ChemBro, chomwitt, chriadam_, chrisb2244, chuckf, Ci-Dev_, clarjon1, claydoh, clintar, clivejo, cloudcell_, ColtonDRG, ComradeHaz`: |
| 10:41.20 | GeekNerd | Condor, Condoulo, cotko, cqi, crog_, CrustY_, cstenger, curly-brace, Cybertinus, Cyp_, d10n, dabbill, danmackay, DANtheBEASTman, DarthCodus, DarthGandalf, Dattorz, dddh, dddh_, Defiance_, dellhem, demm, dennwc, Derega, DerRaiden, desrt, desti_T2, Dezponia, Dibbler, digastricus, DjMadness, dlesage, dmadaan, dMaggot, DogHackit, drawkward, Droste1, Dunedan, dustinm`, dv: |
| 10:41.43 | GeekNerd | dvratil, e-anima, ebe, eean, eherget_, ehermes, einar77, elvisangelaccio, emilsedgh, enhydra, eplightning, esc_type, eseifert, estan, Etzos, Exagone313, excalibr, Falcon`, fatalerrors, feirlane, fekepp, fengshaun, Fisiu, FL1SK, FlameReaper-PC, Fleurety, FliPPeh, floown, FRAJ, frecel, Freejack, FRidh, friedrich, friese, frlttrwrd, funnel, fusl, gagbo, Gamayun, gbcox, genstorm: |
| 10:42.03 | GeekNerd | ylt, yofel, Zaister, zamzing, ZeDestructor, zenguy_pc, zeroedout, Zouth, Zren, zz_ganthore: |
| 10:42.55 | GeekNerd | vvande, Walex, watersoul_, wcpan, weltzooo5, wget, WindPower, WizardGed, Wojtulas, wrix, xamindar, xcor, xmorph, xnrand, xvello, Yaiyan, ycaniou_, ylt, yofel, Zaister, zamzing, ZeDestructor, zenguy_pc, zeroedout, Zouth, Zren, zz_ganthore: |
| 10:43.02 | GeekNerd | valkyr1e, valorie, valsdav, vbgunz, Velveeta_Chef, veqz, vincent42, vinzv_, vivid, Vojtaeus: |
| 10:43.11 | GeekNerd | tosky, troffasky, tsdgeos, TSPenguin, tsukasa, Tucker, tuerai, tuor, turgay, Tuxick, ufoman, ugjka, Uninstall, unormal: |
| 10:43.41 | xnrand | !ops ^ GeekNerd |
| 10:43.44 | GeekNerd | TheTrash, Thev00d00, TheVoid, timrs2998, Timvde, Tm_T, togge|laptop, TomTom: |
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| 10:43.55 | GeekNerd | xnrand: dont be an ass, plz |
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| 10:44.27 | ahjolinna | wtf? |
| 10:44.40 | e-anima | holy fuck what was that. |
| 10:45.08 | e-anima | i think these drugs he took, are really bad |
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| 15:21.03 | genstorm | I've seen worse |
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| 16:02.59 | tonythetiger | ksysguard is showing nothing in cpu load and network graphs, is there anything I can do to get this working again? |
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| 16:06.53 | tonythetiger | In the right click on the graph > properties there is nothing listed in the sensors section for both graphs |
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| 16:53.45 | CMEPTb | hi guys. this command used to work in older kde, what is the equivalent in plasma? anyone know? would greately appreciate the help.. qdbus org.kde.kded /kded loadModule powerdevil <- I need to load the power management from a script |
| 16:57.31 | CMEPTb | oh n/m! just figured it out. had a typo. it's qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /kded unloadModule powerdevil |
| 16:57.42 | CMEPTb | thanks! |
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| 19:05.17 | CMEPTb | hi guys. if i start powermanagement from gui system settings, i can then stop start it via qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /kded loadModule powerdevil command. however, if i don't go into gui, it doesn't find this class. what command can i use from a shell script to start powerdevil? |
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| 19:07.27 | CMEPTb | using openrc, NOT systemd. |
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| 19:10.21 | CMEPTb | please? |
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| 19:23.14 | rindolf | CMEPTb: hi. |
| 19:23.20 | CMEPTb | hi rindolf ! |
| 19:24.05 | rindolf | CMEPTb: can you try studying the source code? |
| 19:24.07 | CMEPTb | rindolf, the gui settings utility must do something to initialize the powermanagment dbus class, which then allows me to load/unload the powerdevil at will via a qdbus command, but how do i mimic same functionality w/o the settings gui? |
| 19:24.32 | rindolf | CMEPTb: what's openrc's equiv of systemctl? |
| 19:24.33 | CMEPTb | sure. i just figured someone here might be a dev who already knows the answer. |
| 19:25.10 | CMEPTb | there isn't. just scripts in /etc/init.d |
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| 19:42.26 | CMEPTb | w00t. ok i figured it out thanks to dbus-monitor |
| 19:42.31 | CMEPTb | proper command is qdbus org.kde.kded5 /kded loadModule powerdevil |
| 19:43.53 | CMEPTb | btw, the reason i am not going to use plasma for desktop in favor of xfce is that it's very slow. also, trying to play a video .. it was all choppy! same exact mplayer i use in xfce w/o any problems. maybe after a few more versions i will try it again but for now all i need is powerdevil for timed sys suspend functionality. |
| 19:45.02 | genstorm | CMEPTb: works fine here on 7-year old lowvoltage hardware |
| 19:45.31 | genstorm | might be a config issue or baloo pounding your HDD right at startup, that happens |
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| 19:46.09 | CMEPTb | genstorm, maybe. it was about 15 mins after startup, or 10 mins after i finally got into the eventually loaded desktop lol |
| 19:47.02 | CMEPTb | in either case, everything was way slower. refreshes, panel switching even dolphin took forever to appear. xfce is lightning quick and uses waaaay less ram, leaving much more for VMs. |
| 19:47.02 | tosky | CMEPTb: that's really too much, even on old hardware |
| 19:47.19 | CMEPTb | i7 2600k @ 4.4ghz 16gb ram also oc'd |
| 19:47.30 | tosky | it is really too slow |
| 19:47.34 | CMEPTb | so yea, it should be able to deal with moderate amount of bloat |
| 19:47.42 | tosky | it's not *bloat* |
| 19:47.50 | CMEPTb | what is it then? |
| 19:47.53 | tosky | and really, it should be really fast on that system |
| 19:47.57 | tosky | graphic card? |
| 19:48.01 | CMEPTb | xfce does all this w/o it being painfully exhasparatingly slow |
| 19:48.06 | tosky | which one, and which drivers? |
| 19:48.08 | CMEPTb | gtx770 |
| 19:48.40 | tosky | I'm sure xfce does not the same (does it offers, for example, the per-windows rule from kwin?) |
| 19:48.50 | tosky | with the proprietary nvidia drivers, I gues |
| 19:48.54 | tosky | guess* |
| 19:48.58 | CMEPTb | no, os drivers |
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| 19:49.01 | tosky | ah |
| 19:49.05 | tosky | that could explain |
| 19:49.13 | tosky | (unfortunately) |
| 19:50.13 | CMEPTb | it works excellent in xfce, but jitters and choppy as hell (pauses for half second every 5-10 seconds) of moderate definition video. netflix gets all pixalated again and again. all this works w/o a single issue in xfce |
| 19:50.42 | CMEPTb | the choppy is plasma, that is. |
| 19:51.01 | genstorm | did I mention my 7 year old Intel low-voltage hardware...? |
| 19:51.42 | CMEPTb | genstorm, yes you have. what tweak then would you suggest? |
| 19:53.02 | genstorm | whatever you can change about your video setup, switch to more current driver version, latest kernel, maybe switch to proprietary to check.... |
| 19:53.26 | tosky | video acceleration definitely lies on the drivers |
| 19:53.30 | CMEPTb | i'm on hardened, 4.7.1 ... |
| 19:53.42 | CMEPTb | and my acceleration is fine, because it works in xfce. |
| 19:54.13 | tosky | I beg to disagree |
| 19:54.23 | tosky | did you try to change the backend for the kwin compositor? |
| 19:54.34 | CMEPTb | nvidia drivers not an option... i'd rather use open source, and when i tried it a while back had major issues across the board. from forums, my card is not happy using linux version of their stuff |
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| 19:55.08 | CMEPTb | hm i did little other than play around for about an hour testing functionality |
| 19:55.21 | CMEPTb | what is the default backend and which one should i switch to? |
| 19:55.24 | tosky | "Display and Monitor" from systemsettings5, Compositor |
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| 19:55.42 | tosky | probably you have OpenGL 2.0 or OpenGL 3.1, try XRender (or the other way around) |
| 19:55.52 | tosky | reduce the animation speed, etc |
| 19:56.19 | CMEPTb | yea default is 2.0 |
| 19:56.50 | CMEPTb | heh opengl interface drop down is empty |
| 19:57.06 | CMEPTb | altho i'm in xfce now w/ only powerdevil service started, so who knows what guts of kde are missing |
| 19:57.47 | tosky | it's bits of plasma, not kde; I'm not sure if that panel works outside |
| 19:58.01 | tosky | but you should try from there, the changes are applied immediately |
| 19:58.17 | CMEPTb | hm ok i'll play with 3.1 or xrender |
| 19:58.31 | CMEPTb | but my opengl setup is solid, i play games on this thing |
| 20:00.16 | CMEPTb | thanks for your help guys. don't get me wrong, kde (plasma) is pretty sweet looking, and maybe w/ some messing around it can be made fast approaching xfce. i also like a lot of the kde apps, dolphin/okular/etcetcetc. appreaciate your work, don't mean to sound like i'm talking smack. |
| 20:03.24 | tosky | but really, I bet that if you had a 7 years old intel it would work smoothly |
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| 20:07.08 | CMEPTb | oh. another thing that was weird. and i tried both lightdm and sddm. for some reason, on boot, xdm would appear in crashed state. but, if i login to console as root and start xdm again, it would work and i get my login on tty7. any clue what that might be all about? |
| 20:08.35 | CMEPTb | i don't use a DM normally, just startx from console, but i figured be all fancy with plasma :P |
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| 20:38.13 | xmorph | Kopete can't be used for facebook chat anymore ? |
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| 20:40.57 | troffasky | i think they closed their xmpp messaging service |
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| 20:43.06 | tosky | xmorph: this explains the issue from the point of view of KDE Telepathy, but the same explanation applies to kopete: http://martys.typepad.com/blog/2015/03/facebook-chat-in-kde-telepathy-is-in-death-bed.html |
| 20:43.28 | tosky | thanks to the internet of the 2010s and the closed gardens |
| 20:43.43 | xmorph | I know that pidgin have plugin that works, something similar can be added to Kopete |
| 20:43.59 | tosky | really, they can't, please read that blog |
| 20:45.06 | tosky | (and the comments too) |
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| 20:55.02 | FLHerne | xmorph: No-one has a plugin that works |
| 20:55.13 | FLHerne | Unless it's a really sophisticated web-scraping thing |
| 20:55.26 | xmorph | FLHerne: really? I use one right now. |
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| 20:56.03 | xmorph | FLHerne: https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook |
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| 21:01.37 | FLHerne | xmorph: That's quite interesting, I hadn't heard of that |
| 21:02.02 | FLHerne | I couldn't find an actual spec for "Facebook Messenger protocol", is it reverse-engineered? |
| 21:02.12 | FLHerne | Presumably there are blog posts or GSoC reports |
| 21:03.22 | tosky | uhm |
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| 21:05.30 | FLHerne | Yes, definitely reverse-engineered |
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| 23:52.16 | SporkWitch | where does kmail look for certs? apparently it's missing something that everything else on my system has, because it keeps throwing errors when it connects to my IMAPS server |
| 23:53.41 | thiago | in the system |
| 23:54.06 | thiago | try this, please: openssl s_client -connect your.imap.server:993 -verify 1 |
| 23:54.28 | SporkWitch | thiago: it's good; all other devices are fine, so is sslscan and openssl :) |
| 23:54.35 | thiago | does that end with: Verify return code: 0 (ok) |
| 23:54.39 | SporkWitch | yup |
| 23:54.54 | thiago | kmail uses the same certificates as the openssl tool |
| 23:54.55 | SporkWitch | gmail also confirms TLS when sending between my mailserver and it (and vice versa) |
| 23:55.22 | SporkWitch | ah, excuse, i derped slightly there, was thinking in terms of the server; didn't run it locally |
| 23:55.53 | SporkWitch | and that does, in fact, return 0:OK on the local machine |
| 23:56.09 | SporkWitch | yet when kmail initially tries to connect it says it doesn't trust the letsencrypt root; yet everything else does... |
| 23:57.44 | SporkWitch | thiago: can hit it yourself if you want to double-check me, address in PM |
| 23:58.37 | thiago | indeed |
| 23:58.45 | thiago | but that only proves that my system is configured properly... |
| 23:58.48 | SporkWitch | k9mail, carddavsync, caldavsync, etc. are also all happy on android, and android is usually really picky about certs |
| 23:59.10 | SporkWitch | thiago: well, it confirms that yours is set up properly and the server lol |
| 23:59.13 | thiago | sorry, it should have worked. If openssl works, Qt-based apps do too. |
| 23:59.23 | SporkWitch | apparently not, heh |