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| 02:46.36 | dragon_ | Hello, in xfce I can by means of keeping of the Alt key and scrolling of a wheel of a mouse to increase and reduce the screen, it is necessary for me to consider what is there, another because the screen is far is small written or something. Whether there is in kde such convenient means smoothly to increase or reduce the screen? |
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| 05:22.41 | dragon_ | Hello, in xfce I can by means of keeping of the Alt key and scrolling of a wheel of a mouse to increase and reduce the screen, it is necessary for me to consider what is there, another because the screen is far is small written or something. Whether there is in kde such convenient means smoothly to increase or reduce the screen? |
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| 05:26.30 | romangg | dragon_: only know of the "present windows" functionality. maybe try this out? |
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| 05:37.41 | lovelypink | http://www.renegadetribune.com/incendiary-radio-dead-activists-dirty-dealings/ |
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| 06:11.59 | AfterDarkness | kwin effects arent running after restarting kwin, how can I troubleshoot this? |
| 06:16.53 | thiago | press Alt+Shift+F12. Do they come back up? |
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| 08:43.50 | luc4 | Hello! Anyone who knows if there is a proper place to discuss new applications for KDE? |
| 08:45.00 | Sho_ | luc4: you mean developing them? #kde-devel |
| 08:46.53 | luc4 | Sho_: yes, ok thanks |
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| 10:15.35 | soupnanodesukar | I wonder if it's possible to get scrolling wallpapers across virtual desktops like on android, if not now but in a future edition of kde. afict no desktop de does that (yet). |
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| 10:17.39 | leszek | soupnanodesukar: enlightenment dr 0.16 has that feature |
| 10:17.53 | leszek | I think fvwm2 also |
| 10:18.15 | leszek | so some window managers have support for such a thing |
| 10:19.31 | soupnanodesukar | i wonder how it would work in the qml code |
| 10:19.40 | soupnanodesukar | i'll have to do some thinking about this |
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| 10:58.48 | redeyedman | Hi |
| 10:58.52 | redeyedman | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:59.38 | redeyedman | ktorrent's data shouldn't be in plasmashell's output, IMHO |
| 10:59.58 | redeyedman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:02.09 | filcuc | does the kde wallet API support plugins? |
| 11:02.27 | filcuc | i'm thinking about writing aplugin for interfacing with lastpass |
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| 11:10.37 | hensema | hi all.. after an upgrade to opensuse 42.1 (from 13.2) I may have created a frankenstein of an kde installation |
| 11:10.44 | hensema | some settings I do are completely ignored |
| 11:10.54 | hensema | for instance, "focus follows mouse" is ignored |
| 11:11.06 | hensema | is it possible I have mixed multiple kde versions? |
| 11:11.21 | hensema | (and how can I check... the standard help -> about kde doesn't show a version any more) |
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| 11:18.19 | osfe | Hi there. How do you configure recently used files, please ? |
| 11:20.07 | osfe | I'd like to exclude files from hidden folder from the result |
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| 12:02.28 | viric | Hello kde |
| 12:02.58 | viric | when a kde app says "klauncher answered: protocol unknown «file»"... |
| 12:03.02 | viric | what piece is exactly missing? |
| 12:03.26 | viric | piece as in file-on-disk |
| 12:03.42 | viric | some plugin? Some executable? what one? |
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| 12:17.23 | viric | hm I miss file.protocol |
| 12:17.42 | zack263 | see all the different kde software is amazing! |
| 12:17.57 | zack263 | and I hear kde is coming to windows10 too! :) |
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| 12:32.02 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 12:46.28 | zack263 | The face you make when you see the large list of software KDE has made :-OOOOOOOOO |
| 12:51.35 | earlybird | viric: a kio slave for the protocol in question |
| 12:52.03 | viric | earlybird: I think I have problems in klaunch.. |
| 12:52.18 | viric | earlybird: kio does not bring any 'file.protocol' now, I see |
| 12:52.39 | viric | I'm trying to find where klauncher expects libkdeinit5_klauncher.so to be |
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| 13:08.29 | rdieter_work | viric: generally the same place as other system shared libraries, each distro often seem to do that a bit differently these days |
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| 13:09.16 | viric | rdieter_work: well, I'm trying to package kdenlive for the distro... and I can't tell what is it missing |
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| 13:09.46 | rdieter_work | viric: can you be more specific? |
| 13:09.48 | viric | rdieter_work: other protocols have a ".protocol" file, but there is not "file.protocol". I wonder how the kio slave is searched for |
| 13:10.00 | rdieter_work | do you have kinit installed? |
| 13:10.06 | rdieter_work | kio needs that |
| 13:10.11 | viric | yes, it is kinit's klauncher that complains |
| 13:10.15 | rdieter_work | (as well as anything else that uses klauncher) |
| 13:10.33 | rdieter_work | complains... about what specifically? |
| 13:10.49 | viric | klauncher answered: unknown protocol «file» |
| 13:10.58 | rdieter_work | it literally says <<file>> ? |
| 13:11.01 | viric | yes |
| 13:11.21 | viric | couldn't create slave: "Unable to create io-slave:\nklauncher said: Unknown protocol 'file'.\n" |
| 13:11.34 | rdieter_work | ah, so *that* is the literal error, thank you |
| 13:11.45 | rdieter_work | looks for what provides 'file' kio |
| 13:11.55 | viric | sorry, I got '«»' in my brain from somewhere else Iguess |
| 13:12.12 | rdieter_work | viric: kio provides it |
| 13:12.20 | rdieter_work | (the kio framework) |
| 13:12.33 | viric | but I "have" kio. I see that kio does not have a "file.protocol" file though. Is it any relevant? |
| 13:12.42 | rdieter_work | on my fedora system, the kio plugin is at /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so |
| 13:12.48 | rdieter_work | do you have file.so ? |
| 13:12.55 | viric | rdieter_work: that file is there and is properly loaded, as I see in strace |
| 13:13.05 | rdieter_work | ok, no idea why it's not working then |
| 13:13.20 | rdieter_work | fyi, *.protocol files are generally deprecated in kf5 these days, iirc |
| 13:13.24 | viric | ah ok |
| 13:13.30 | viric | that makes sense |
| 13:13.42 | viric | so who is in charge of loading file.so? |
| 13:13.52 | rdieter_work | viric: kio |
| 13:14.09 | viric | based on what? listing the *.so in a path? |
| 13:14.12 | viric | hardcoded? |
| 13:14.20 | rdieter_work | I don't know the implementation details |
| 13:14.46 | rdieter_work | i've personally never seen it not 'just work' |
| 13:15.03 | viric | aha, ok. |
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| 13:15.13 | rdieter_work | viric: but yes, I think it generally searches Qt5 plugin path |
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| 13:16.42 | viric | through the kioslave process, maybe? |
| 13:17.24 | rdieter_work | viric: I'd report the problem/bug to your distro that kio isn't working properly (unless that's you?) |
| 13:18.00 | viric | :) |
| 13:18.15 | elvisangelaccio | viric: already tried running 'kdeinit5'? |
| 13:18.22 | viric | kdeinit5 is running |
| 13:18.23 | elvisangelaccio | or just login again |
| 13:18.38 | viric | I don't run the kde desktop |
| 13:18.41 | viric | I just want to run kdenlive |
| 13:19.14 | rdieter_work | have you upgraded any kde frameworks since you started your most recent session? |
| 13:19.21 | viric | rdieter_work: when klauncher says "unknown protocol"... what is klauncher trying to launch? |
| 13:19.28 | rdieter_work | if so, elvisangelaccio suggestion is a good one |
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| 13:19.35 | viric | there should not be anything |
| 13:20.06 | rdieter_work | viric: it's looking for kioslave for file:// URLs |
| 13:20.14 | viric | kioslave is a libexec program, I see |
| 13:20.50 | rdieter_work | ie, the file kio plugin I referenced earlier |
| 13:24.49 | viric | hm https://github.com/KDE/kio/blob/master/src/kioslave/kioslave.cpp#L61 |
| 13:24.57 | viric | these parameters don't seem to match the later source :) |
| 13:26.58 | viric | ah maybe it does. |
| 13:28.20 | viric | I don't understand much why is it failing. grr |
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| 13:33.27 | viric | ok, got it... it was a patch of our distro |
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| 13:35.36 | viric | thank you rdieter_work |
| 13:37.55 | rdieter_work | <sarcasm>yay for distro patching</sarcasm> |
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| 13:38.31 | viric | we have to do some patching because we don't have any "single path where kde is" |
| 13:38.32 | rdieter_work | viric: mind sharing the details, other users may hit the same thing |
| 13:38.40 | viric | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/13820 |
| 13:39.31 | viric | it is a very distro-specific patch to kinit, because its logic to find libs works only for naive installations |
| 13:39.47 | rdieter_work | that sounds unfun, I'll pull myself away before my eyes bleed :-/ |
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| 13:40.31 | viric | rdieter_work: https://github.com/KDE/kinit/blob/master/src/kdeinit/kinit.cpp#L626-L639 |
| 13:40.46 | viric | rdieter_work: well, that's how we can handle well atomic system updates |
| 13:40.58 | viric | the naive installation is not to have atomic updates |
| 13:41.09 | viric | (updates overwriting old files) |
| 13:42.50 | rdieter_work | viric: that looks worthy of getting upstreamed to kde.org sources properly, imo |
| 13:43.28 | rdieter_work | any attempts to do so, yet? |
| 13:43.32 | rdieter_work | if not, why not? |
| 13:44.03 | viric | well, the solution for that loading of libs it's quite specific to our distro. |
| 13:44.23 | rdieter_work | doesn't look that way to me |
| 13:44.36 | viric | Maybe we can find a better solution on our own still. I'm not responsible of those patches :) |
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| 13:44.51 | viric | of course we try to keep the patches to the very minimum. We don't have much to patch |
| 13:44.57 | viric | so it is quite correct |
| 13:45.07 | viric | It just happens that I'm illiterate regarding the kde stuff |
| 13:45.17 | rdieter_work | viric: so that's the code path that failed for you? |
| 13:45.22 | viric | and the dozens of "files that have to be in such place" requirements |
| 13:46.23 | viric | rdieter_work: our patch centerDist |
| 13:46.30 | viric | our patch https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/2045b40b1061f24e9a51e1f312c9d9e131b8b43b/pkgs/development/libraries/kde-frameworks/kinit/kinit-libpath.patch |
| 13:47.22 | viric | rdieter_work: another one for kio samba. See, kde has hardcoded paths: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/2045b40b1061f24e9a51e1f312c9d9e131b8b43b/pkgs/development/libraries/kde-frameworks/kio/samba-search-path.patch |
| 13:47.59 | viric | we don't have even /usr, so imagine. |
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| 13:50.38 | bittin | heh a KDE guy infiltrating GUADEC :D |
| 13:50.49 | bittin | nice :p |
| 13:52.08 | rdieter_work | viric: ah, ok, that part is definitely not upstreamable then, nvm |
| 13:53.13 | rdieter_work | bittin: the Qt integration stuff? (yeah, that's good work, imo, but I'm also very biased) |
| 13:53.20 | rdieter_work | qgnomeplatform, etc... |
| 13:54.00 | bittin | rdieter_work: thats on Sunday but Cornelius Schumacher did some commercial for KDE and OpenSUSE :D |
| 13:54.03 | bittin | heh |
| 13:54.10 | bittin | my moms runs KDE and OpenSUSE :) |
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| 13:55.15 | viric | rdieter_work: thank you for your attention. It was really helpful. |
| 13:55.29 | viric | Let's see if the latest kdenlive crashes less than the 15.12. |
| 13:55.32 | viric | :) |
| 13:55.40 | viric | and aligns audio better |
| 13:55.53 | rdieter_work | they've done a lot of good work since then (15.12), imho |
| 13:56.40 | viric | the audio thumbnails alignment did not match sound alignment, in my case |
| 13:56.48 | viric | so I can test that easily. |
| 13:57.00 | viric | preview sound alignment also didn't match render sound alignment, so it was kind of crazy |
| 13:57.17 | viric | It happened since 0.9.x kdenlive up to 15.12, so I'l lsee. |
| 13:57.39 | viric | ah, and automatic audio track alignment crashed straight in 15.12, so I couldn't test this part. |
| 13:57.46 | viric | most I want is thumbnail-preview-render matching |
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| 15:01.54 | mas886 | Leoneof: Where do I get this? |
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| 15:02.28 | ChemBro | mas886: right-click on taskbar --> alternative |
| 15:03.49 | mas886 | ChemBro: At alternatives I only see alternatives to the launcer button. |
| 15:04.14 | ChemBro | don't right-click on the menu, right-click on the taskbar |
| 15:04.21 | mas886 | True! Thanks. |
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| 15:45.34 | zack263 | it is not jumping out at me; in calligra flowchart |
| 15:46.03 | zack263 | if i double click the shape... it places the cursor in the upper left of the shape |
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| 17:20.24 | mas886 | I'm having problems resizing plasmoids on the latest versions of kde. |
| 17:23.17 | mas886 | On other versions when the mouse was over the right vertex of the thing a tool menu appeared, but doesn't seems to appear now. |
| 17:23.47 | Zren | mas886, click an hold |
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| 17:28.24 | mas886 | Zren: Seems to work, thanks |
| 17:28.47 | mas886 | I think it was more intuitive by only hovering though. |
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| 17:30.34 | Zren | yeah |
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| 17:36.25 | mdiehl1 | Hi all. |
| 17:36.54 | mdiehl1 | I just had to back out a kubunu upgrade and now I can't get to the kmail configuration screen. |
| 17:37.11 | mdiehl1 | I had to copy /home/* from a backup after doing a fresh os install. |
| 17:37.19 | mdiehl1 | Any hints? |
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| 17:50.51 | pierre^ | How did you do your backup / home? |
| 17:51.46 | pierre^ | with a live ?, in init 3 ? or in kde running ? |
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| 17:59.49 | pierre^ | mdiehl1: |
| 18:00.33 | mdiehl1 | I did the new install on a new disk and restored /home from the old disk. |
| 18:00.51 | mdiehl1 | Once the os was installed, I did a cp -var ..... |
| 18:01.22 | mdiehl1 | From the console, btw. |
| 18:01.26 | pierre^ | rsync -av /source /dest |
| 18:01.51 | pierre^ | and with a live |
| 18:01.56 | mdiehl1 | I could try that on the .kde subdirectory... |
| 18:02.08 | pierre^ | the method |
| 18:02.22 | pierre^ | you boot with a live |
| 18:02.29 | mdiehl1 | I _think_ they do the same thing. |
| 18:02.44 | mdiehl1 | I hadn't logged into kde when I did the ~ restore. |
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| 18:04.30 | pierre^ | [12/08/2016 20:01] <mdiehl1> I _think_ they do the same thing. ... not really |
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| 18:04.52 | mdiehl1 | I'm listening. |
| 18:05.53 | pierre^ | the only method to backup the /home is tu boot with a live |
| 18:06.18 | mdiehl1 | OK. |
| 18:06.23 | pierre^ | mount the backup ans the new folder home |
| 18:07.06 | pierre^ | and rsync -av --delete-after /mnt/home_source/ /mnt/home_dest/ |
| 18:08.32 | pierre^ | be carrefull it is /home/ and not /home/user/ |
| 18:10.10 | mdiehl1 | Yup. |
| 18:10.10 | mdiehl1 | OK. |
| 18:10.18 | pierre^ | i go :) |
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| 20:32.08 | Falcon` | is there any way i can do something like xrandr --scale per app? i'd like to basically trick non-hidpi apps to behave properly |
| 20:32.16 | Falcon` | well, properl-ish |
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