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| 04:32.11 | cottoncrown | can someone help me? my app launcher isnt working |
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| 05:17.42 | vvande | cottoncrown: did you fix it yet? |
| 05:18.08 | vvande | It happens to me and I kill and reatart plasma-desktop in order to fix it. |
| 05:18.16 | vvande | *restart |
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| 05:37.22 | cottoncrown | vvande, had something to do with focus prevention, i turned it off now it works |
| 05:37.36 | vvande | oh good |
| 05:37.40 | vvande | glad you fixed it |
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| 06:55.55 | tuxick | lo, i was wondering why sessions arent save/restored, default option is "restore previous session" but i don't see "save session" anywhere? |
| 06:56.41 | genstorm | tuxick: fixed with qt-5.6.1, at least for qt-based applications |
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| 06:57.23 | tuxick | ah, temp bug then? i'll just wait, thanks |
| 06:57.40 | tuxick | seems one that's hard to oversee but ok :) |
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| 06:58.00 | genstorm | tuxick: hard to solve |
| 06:58.12 | tuxick | hmm stranges, but ok |
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| 07:23.28 | StatelessCat | Hey. I'm using i3wm and okular as my PDF reader. Since few days okular sometime emit sound (e.g. when the find command did not return result). I do not want that. How can I disable this sound (without installing a lot of KDE deps) ? Thanks |
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| 07:25.24 | shtrb | is there a way from KDE to set the external device as disconnected ? I disconnected the VGA monitor but KDE still try to open windows on it(in xrander it says disconnected, my workaround was to run xrandr --output LVDS --output VGA-0 --off) |
| 07:26.36 | einar77_work | shtrb: you can set it as disabled in the display settings in SYstem Settings |
| 07:26.58 | einar77_work | StatelessCat: Configure notifications in the Settings menu of Okular? |
| 07:28.11 | shtrb | systemsettings went directly to the other screen |
| 07:29.10 | StatelessCat | einar77_work: I didnt find anything related to notifications on Okular settings. |
| 07:29.36 | einar77_work | StatelessCat: no "Configure notifications" in the Settings menu? (not Configure Okular) |
| 07:30.02 | StatelessCat | einar77_work: I didnt have Settings menu, Iḿ using i3wm, not the whole KDE DE. |
| 07:30.42 | einar77_work | StatelessCat: it shouldn't matter |
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| 07:32.06 | StatelessCat | einar77_work: are you saying there is a dependency on somethimg called systemsettings on the okular package ? |
| 07:32.10 | StatelessCat | I do not see it :/ |
| 07:32.24 | einar77_work | no |
| 07:32.40 | einar77_work | StatelessCat: is there a Help menu? |
| 07:33.34 | StatelessCat | Yep, and the only option to get something is to click on the link to the okular project webpage. |
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| 07:34.09 | StatelessCat | Adn in the documentation, it's said to open the KDE system menu (and I don't have it). |
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| 07:37.43 | StatelessCat | adding "[Sounds] \n No sounds=true \n Volume=0" in ~/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc didint work. |
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| 07:40.58 | StatelessCat | This is very annoying to see these kind of defaults settings changed |
| 07:41.14 | StatelessCat | Maybe I could open an issue on the okular bug tracker |
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| 07:50.01 | Maws | Will a reinstall of KDE reset *all* settings to default ?, or should I remove it and then install it again ? (will a "remove", remove everything or will there still be stuff "floating" arond (on a debian system so using apt) |
| 07:50.39 | genstorm | Maws: settings are saved in your home directory, these won't be removed by reinstalling KDE |
| 07:51.28 | Maws | genstorm, is there a quick way to reset everything back to "default" or ? |
| 07:51.45 | genstorm | define everything |
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| 07:52.51 | Maws | all things that's configurable thru the system settings :) |
| 07:54.03 | Maws | btw, will a --reinstall reset things that's stored in the /usr...... (related to KDE) |
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| 07:58.32 | genstorm | Maws: yes, but as a user you don't change stuff in /usr |
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| 08:00.57 | Maws | genstorm, yea I know, but I'v experimented a bit with changing some backgrounds for logon screen etc, and trying different things to try to sort out some random freezes, so want the system back to "clean".........as for some reason when I know use ctrl+alt+l it doesn't "Lock" (even if shortcuts says it's set to that), but it will actually shutdown applications and log out....:( |
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| 08:23.11 | BaltecoTroll | dudes, can i rule _where_ on my screen "system notify" applet will show notifications? |
| 08:25.20 | einar77_work | I think so, but I've never ever looked |
| 08:26.02 | einar77_work | BaltecoTroll: yeah, right click on the notification applet and select the secreen area |
| 08:26.10 | einar77_work | might need a recent Plasma version |
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| 08:29.27 | BaltecoTroll | ahhha... einar77_work thanks a lot |
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| 10:51.07 | CounterPillow | Can somebody in here help me with KDE's touchpad system settings, specifically when used in combination with xf86-input-libinput? |
| 10:51.49 | CounterPillow | My sensitivity is too high, but for some reason, the options to change it are greyed out https://a.uguu.se/sQ3vhG7psgAq.png |
| 10:58.28 | rdieter | CounterPillow: it's because the touchpad kcm was originally designed to tweak synaptics driver directly, libinput has far less configurability |
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| 10:59.01 | CounterPillow | Ah. I was able to fix my sensitivity troubles for now by using a negative accel speed. |
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| 11:12.49 | CounterPillow | Hmm, it seems the KDE touchpad thingy doesn't understand negative acceleration and sets it to 0 upon login or something |
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| 11:13.10 | CounterPillow | It worked on the login screen |
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| 12:40.50 | peterz | In Dolphin (15.12.3), using detail view, the 'size' column, for folders, shows the number of files therein. Computing this number takes time, is there any way to disable this? |
| 12:42.10 | rdieter | peterz: disable the size column? |
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| 12:42.28 | peterz | rdieter: I'd like to actually see the size of files |
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| 12:43.18 | peterz | rdieter: I'm just not interested in the fancy number computed for folders; I'm fine with whatever stat() returns for the directory size, as per ls etc.. |
| 12:43.27 | rdieter | that's the only option I'm aware of (though interestingly, I just looked at a largish folder of mine, and the size calculation was astonishly fast, much faster than I would've expected) |
| 12:44.02 | peterz | its horridly slow here; loads of files in loads of folders, over nfs |
| 12:44.24 | peterz | and I already had to kick gam_server in the teeth to not endlessly repoll the stuff |
| 12:44.40 | rdieter | ah, nfs, fun |
| 12:44.42 | peterz | otherwise it would consume 40% cpu, just because I had a folder open in dolphin |
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| 12:45.11 | rdieter | (and yeah, gamin historically doesn't seem to handle that use-case well either :( ) |
| 12:45.34 | peterz | no notification support for any of the remote filesystems basically |
| 12:45.51 | rdieter | gamin is possibly the reason why it's fast (for me), and slow for you (since you'd kicked it) |
| 12:46.14 | peterz | nah, stat() on a local ssd is fast, stat() on NFS, not so much |
| 12:46.26 | peterz | gamin still does all the stat() calls |
| 12:46.38 | peterz | I just told it to not do them again every second |
| 12:46.52 | peterz | (the default poll interval) |
| 12:47.13 | rdieter | oh too bad, I thought gamin/nfs was at least smart enough these days to avoid polling |
| 12:47.18 | peterz | nope |
| 12:47.28 | peterz | had to add: fsset nfs none |
| 12:48.10 | peterz | took me a fair while to figure out wtf was causing gam_server to go silly bugger like that though |
| 12:49.19 | peterz | *sigh*, maybe I should just grab the dolphin source and 'fix' it |
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| 15:05.25 | apus | can somebody please tell me what the most recent kmail2 release did when i used it to change an imap folder name? thunderbird and thebat! (both email clients) now show the old folder names also and they are greyed out/inaccessible. |
| 15:06.22 | apus | after i've solved this i will abandon kmail, it is obviously impossible for the developers to get it working so users can rely on it. |
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| 15:16.44 | rdieter | apus: "change a folder name" means you renamed it? |
| 15:17.14 | rdieter | apus: so, after doing that, you may need to force other imap clients to refresh the imap folder list |
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| 15:17.58 | FLHerne | apus: That seems to be a Thunderbird bug? https://bugzil.la/544883 |
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| 15:18.46 | apus | rdieter: did that already, multiple times. tried everything i could think of, deleted the whole data cache of thunderbird, etc. A minute ago i was in roundcube and added the topmost folder to the abonnement list, that somehow has fixed it. Well it was also in TheBat!, where i had the same problem. |
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| 15:19.05 | FLHerne | Can't blame you for being suspicious of KMail2 though, I don't trust it either |
| 15:19.24 | FLHerne | Trojita is quite nice, only supports one IMAP account at a time though currently :-( |
| 15:20.42 | rdieter | apus: fyi, in my experience, collapsing the folders and re-expanding is enough to refresh on thunderbird |
| 15:21.18 | rdieter | (collapsing the toplevel imap account) |
| 15:21.19 | apus | well whatever it was, kmail has obviously left a remnant there somewhere of those old folders, which was still listed in every email client i tried except for kmail itself. i collapsed and reexpanded the folders and refreshed for 10 minutes before asking here and then later going into roundcube. |
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| 15:22.18 | rdieter | fine, use another imap client and delete the "remnant" (only after you're sure it's contents are safe in some other folder) |
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| 15:23.22 | apus | the remnant couldn't be deleted, couldn't be accessed, it was greyed out. it could only be unsubscribed. what roundcube did in the end, to clear it up, i don't know |
| 15:23.40 | apus | the data is safe, that is all that matters. |
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| 15:26.44 | apus | rdieter: well if you like kmail so much, then i'd look into why renaming imap folders doesn't seem to be sanely implemented. when you're at it, you could also look at the 1001 other imap implementation bugs, which i've lived with for many years now and which won't get fixed even after they are known for years. don't get me wrong, i liked the old kmail1 quite a lot, but the newer one never really got stable if you ask me |
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| 15:29.55 | rdieter | apus: offtopic rant? |
| 15:30.14 | rdieter | <shrug>, just sharing my experience with dealing with multiple imap clients, take it or leave it, I don't mind |
| 15:30.44 | rdieter | yes, also dealing with folder subscriptions between multiple clients can be confusing too |
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| 15:31.17 | rdieter | (in my experience, easier to configure imap clients to just show *all* folders and to ignore subscriptions) |
| 15:31.46 | rdieter | since, it's just one more thing to get out of sync and be confusing (like here) |
| 15:32.49 | rdieter | sounds like to me, the folder actually did get deleted, but the imap server (or clients with stale subscription list) still though it was subscribed. hard to say who's to blame for that inconsistency |
| 15:33.20 | rdieter | (but my suspicions for blame would place kmail down the list a ways) |
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| 17:13.52 | brli | I mean, I'd like them in their own icon, not all under the firefox icon |
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| 17:34.35 | JyZyXEL | the numlock led turns off but numlock itself remains on, meaning you have to press numlock twice to sync the state again |
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| 17:47.26 | abhishek | hi |
| 17:48.30 | abhishek | I did sudo apt-get purge *pulse* ; sudo apt-get purge skype; dpkg -r skype; |
| 17:49.14 | abhishek | Now I can't login into kde. It doesn't show the kde bootscreen. |
| 17:52.17 | abhishek | Any ideas? I can still use CLI with Ctrl+Alt+F7. |
| 17:53.32 | leszek | abhishek: did you take a look what got removed ? Maybe some plasma components were removed when removing pulse* |
| 17:54.12 | abhishek | leszek: probably. No I didn't :p. Any way I can fix it? |
| 17:55.19 | abhishek | I have CLI I can work apt-get to install again |
| 17:55.32 | leszek | abhishek: try installing plasma-desktop and cross fingers that it pulls everything you need again |
| 17:57.11 | abhishek | leszek: It says some 63 installing right now. Is there anyway I can know exactly what I uniinstalled? |
| 17:57.49 | leszek | abhishek: you could take a look at dpkg.log in /var/log but this is a very big file if you never cleaned it and a little bit painful to read |
| 18:00.56 | abhishek | leszek: okay trying right now. Will update. Thanks for the help! |
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| 18:06.45 | JohnMH | I kind of hate to be blunt, but does KMail work at all? |
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| 18:23.34 | abhishek | leszek: doesn't work. Please check here http://askubuntu.com/questions/787454/recovering-uninstalled-packages |
| 18:25.09 | leszek | abhishek: from tty xinie -e xterm in the xterm try to start kde by executing startkde. It should give you an error that might be helpful |
| 18:25.19 | leszek | *xinit -e xterm |
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| 18:28.50 | abhishek | leszek: so I should execute xinit -e xterm ? |
| 18:29.06 | leszek | yes |
| 18:30.45 | abhishek | xinit: giving up xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused xinit: server error |
| 18:30.48 | abhishek | leszek: ^ |
| 18:32.01 | leszek | abhishek: you have an X-Server running then. Need to close that first |
| 18:32.50 | abhishek | leszek: how? ;) |
| 18:33.36 | leszek | this depends on the login manager you have running. Usually as root systemctl stop <loginmanager> |
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| 18:37.58 | abhishek | leszek: can you please how to check login manager? |
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| 18:39.33 | leszek | abhishek: what distro do you have ? Usually its either gdm, sddm, lightdm |
| 18:39.40 | leszek | so one of these |
| 18:40.04 | leszek | abhishek: in general did you also asked in your #distro channel ? |
| 18:40.27 | leszek | because this is more of a question regarding your specific distro and not anything plasma related really |
| 18:40.28 | abhishek | Kubuntu 16.04, kde plasma 5.6.4 |
| 18:40.37 | leszek | abhishek: should be sddm then |
| 18:41.22 | abhishek | so then root systemct1 stop sddm? |
| 18:41.50 | leszek | abhishek: no |
| 18:41.57 | leszek | execute as root |
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| 18:42.02 | leszek | systemctl stop sddm |
| 18:42.10 | abhishek | so then sudo systemct1 stop sddm? |
| 18:42.28 | leszek | systemctL (small L not 1) |
| 18:42.41 | leszek | systemctl in short for systemcontrol |
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| 19:01.45 | pepee | why does https://community.kde.org/ require javascript? |
| 19:02.17 | thiago | most pages on the web do |
| 19:02.32 | nadley | hi all |
| 19:02.48 | pepee | or, better said, why should it require JS? it's not like it runs lots of multimedia or something |
| 19:02.53 | pepee | thiago, so? |
| 19:04.06 | nadley | I'd like to thanks the team for neon, this is the first time I found a distribution with a minimal kde install. |
| 19:12.39 | abhishek | hi guys! |
| 19:12.52 | abhishek | Please if possible help with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/787454/recovering-uninstalled-packages |
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| 19:16.26 | SacmanXman2 | Anyone know how to achieve a completly transparent but blurred panel like this one (in plasma obviously): http://i.imgur.com/IpzLP.jpg |
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| 19:20.13 | pepee | abhishek, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? |
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| 19:21.18 | abhishek | pepee: tried it :/ |
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| 19:23.05 | pepee | abhishek, install pulseaudio and pulseaudio-module-x11 ? |
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| 19:29.19 | pepee | abhishek, or use aptitude instead |
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| 19:35.54 | vvande | How do you fix the Plasma "Service ~/.local/share/applications ... is malformatted" error without rebooting? |
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| 19:37.35 | vvande | It should be using /usr/local/bin which is in the path and also specified in the config files. |
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| 19:50.15 | pepee | vvande, https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-553881-start-0.html https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/56400/ 1st link says just delete the file, 2nd link seems to indicate that the terminal could cause the error |
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| 19:54.52 | vvande | pepee: thanks. I'm looking now. |
| 19:58.38 | vvande | pepee: thanks again. I just renamed the file as per the first thread, and that didn't work. The second link is a thread started by me. lol |
| 19:58.47 | vvande | no solution yet. :( |
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| 19:59.28 | vvande | Something in the KDE/Plasma world is overwriting the path for starting applications from the menu. |
| 20:00.40 | abhishek | pepee: thanks for the reply. That doesn't fix it though. Please check (Output from logs: )here https://bpaste.net/show/d12d8ba30909 |
| 20:03.11 | pepee | abhishek, output from what command? |
| 20:03.50 | abhishek | pepee: from /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 20:04.58 | pepee | abhishek, weird, it says plasma-desktop:amd64 was removed |
| 20:05.19 | pepee | abhishek, try installing that one? plasma-desktop:amd64 |
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| 20:06.37 | abhishek | pepee: shows installed. Note now I have the sound working, but no display on ctrl+alt+f7. |
| 20:07.00 | pepee | abhishek, install sddm/lightdm |
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| 20:08.19 | abhishek | pepee: some suggested to do this before : sudo systemct1 stop sddm; xinit -e xterm |
| 20:08.36 | abhishek | does the problem relate to it in anyway? |
| 20:09.53 | pepee | abhishek, what do you want to do? start a X session? |
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| 20:13.22 | pepee | abhishek, try sudo systemctl restart sddm (or lightdm) (I think this is the command) |
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