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03:26.17mgoodwinwhat does kde have against spanning wallpaper
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03:35.40Marquelmorning. a short plasma question: after waking up from suspend-to-ram the screen is not always locked, despite powerdevil being set to do so. did i do something wrong? running qt-5.6/plasma-5.6/frameworks-5.21
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04:01.08gajophey, has anyone had issues with their KDE recently? I did an update and now the task manager becomes unresponsive (freezes without ever changing the list of programs) and also the screen sometimes (randomly) starts flashing
04:06.50DarinMillergajop: which version of KDE?
04:10.59DarinMillergajop: when the screen flashes randomly, toggle compositing off/on (default shortcut is Alt-Shift-F12)
04:11.23gajopDarinMiller: ill do that; remind me how to check for KDE version?
04:17.13DarinMillergajop: kinfocenter
04:18.46DarinMillerunder the system menu
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04:21.56gajopKDE Plasma Version: 5.6.3; Kde Frameworks version: 5.21.0
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07:25.04excalibrplasma dev, where does plasma keeps cache of .desktop launchers?
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07:25.39excalibrI made local modification to a .desktop and put it .local/share/applications
07:26.33excalibrbut the changes I made havent been reflected
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07:40.10Kyoshirohello
07:40.54KyoshiroI'm using multiple monitors setup at work, when I'm at home I don't have an external monitor and whenever I try to login to KDE / Plasma, I get a black screen
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07:42.22Kyoshiromoreover, when I have an external monitor connected, when I remove the HDMI cable KDE does not seem to detect the change anymore
07:42.29Kyoshirohow can I fix this ?
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07:44.03hateballGo here and search/report https://bugs.kde.org/
07:44.27hateballmultimonitor support is terrible in Plasma 5 compared to KDE 4, at least for me
07:45.58Kyoshiroyeah it's about since the change to v5 indeed
07:46.09KyoshiroI never had time to check but it's getting on my nerves today xD
07:46.13JyZyXELwhere does Dolphin store it's configuration in KDE 4?
07:46.15KyoshiroI'll check
07:46.42hateballKyoshiro: well what you can do is wipe kscreen config and have it redetect
07:47.08Kyoshirowhere is it located ? I tried removing entire .kde/ directory but it still happens
07:47.22hateballbut then you'll probably end up having to drop to a tty and restart sddm every time
07:47.35hateballKyoshiro: Heh. check the topic.
07:47.51hateballKyoshiro: ~/.local/share/kscreen/ for me
07:47.56Kyoshiro^^'
07:47.58Kyoshirook :)
07:48.00Kyoshirothanks
07:48.04hateballeach file there represents a screen
07:48.37Kyoshirook cool
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07:51.49JyZyXELdolphin just wiped all my Places bookmarks because i had Out Of Disk Space
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08:50.57CalinouDolphin crashes when creating folders, occasionally
08:51.00Calinouusing KDE 5.6
08:51.15Calinouin general, it crashes when performing file operations
08:51.32Calinou[1]    17378 segmentation fault (core dumped)  dolphin
08:51.36Calinoujust reproduced it in a terminal
08:51.42Calinouthe folder is still created though
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09:13.06JyZyXELwhere does Dolphin store Places?
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09:19.25JyZyXELit was: ~/.local/share/user-places.xbel
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09:41.15leszekJyZyXEL: thats exactly the file where it is saving to
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09:44.13JyZyXELleszek: and if you are out of disk space, the file will be truncated to an empty file if you use Dolphin
09:44.26JyZyXELhad to restore my places from backups
09:45.28leszekJyZyXEL: yeah if disk space is full that might be
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09:47.28JyZyXELdolphin doesn't know how to properly deal with out of disk space condition
09:47.42JyZyXELthat is quite ironic considering its a file manager
09:49.01Sho_it's technically not Dolphin code, but yeah that seems dumb
09:49.05Sho_and something very worth filing a bug report for
09:50.31JyZyXELfiling a bug report means you have to be using the latest Dolphin
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09:51.26JyZyXELi have no way of knowing if latest dolphin also has this bug or not
09:52.46Sho_it's not in dolphin code anyway but
09:52.53Sho_it's very unlikely the code has changed recently
09:53.07Sho_file it against kio
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10:42.32JyZyXELleszek: which component?
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10:42.44JyZyXELthere is a huge list of components for 'kio'
10:43.56JyZyXELgeneral sounds good
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11:25.45Kyoshirothanks hateball moving away kscreen config worked ^^
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11:48.56hateballKyoshiro: :)
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12:10.16BluesKajHiyas all
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12:14.47nemysishello BluesKaj and all
12:15.39BluesKajhi nemysis
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12:42.15nemysisBluesKaj, which OS you use
12:42.57BluesKajtesting Kubuntu 16.10 atm, nemysis
12:43.12nemysisi use only openSUSE
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12:44.38BluesKajopen suse is a nice OS, I've used it in the past
12:45.39nemysisok i have used in past PC-BSD with KDE but, openSUSE is very good and light and works well with KDE
12:46.47BluesKajnemysis, any OS that I try  has to have kde DE as an option
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12:47.33nemysisok super KDE is best DE
12:48.40BluesKajthe package management system comes second in my priority list , that's why i prefer the debian based OSs which use dpkg/apt
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12:51.03nemysisi love zypper and make also RPM for openSUSE, oko also for FreeBSD Ports
12:52.14BluesKajdue to the fact that I've been using dpkg/apt for over 11yrs  has made me lazy about trying out other OSs for any length of time over a few weeks
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13:05.17CalinouI'm on Antergos here
13:05.19Calinou(Arch Linux derivative)
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13:19.05nemysisi have had many OS-es used, but not more change
13:20.54Fuchsthey all suck
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13:30.44BluesKajFuchs, so why are you here? :-)
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13:40.00FuchsBluesKaj: why should I not be? I mean ... they all suck equally
13:40.57BluesKajyeah right ...pffft !
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13:42.49nemysisi think all here have KDE
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13:45.10Fuchsplösmö
13:45.39Fuchsmost, probably. All is maybe a bit exaggerated, given some people might be here just for specific kde applications or frameworks  (e.g. LXQt)
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14:34.35paanyone here with a DVB-S2 card?
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14:37.39EuviusIs there a way to get Dolphin video thumbnails working in 16
14:37.44Euvius16.04
14:38.33rdieterEuvius: do you have ffmpegthumbs installed?
14:39.07rdieterthat should provide what you're looking for
14:39.09Euviusyes
14:39.24Euviusit stopped working in Kubuntu 16.04
14:39.34Euviusi have the box checked too
14:39.39Euviusin dolphin
14:40.26rdieterok, something's not working as expected then :(
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14:40.50rdieterassuming you have ffmpegthumbs-16.04 installed too
14:40.51Euviusok
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14:41.55Euviusit was a clean install
14:41.58rdieterI guess 15.12 release should be good enough too, that one also supported kf5
14:42.33rdieterEuvius: when I say 16.04 version, to be clear, I mean kde applications version, not kubuntu version
14:42.48rdieter(in case there's any confusion there)
14:42.54Euviushow do I check that
14:43.36EuviusKDE Frameworks 5.18.0
14:43.37rdieterask your distro?  (that's a distro-specific question)
14:44.00rdieterdepends on your packaging tools and what the package name is specifically
14:44.54rdieterEuvius: what version of dolphin?
14:44.58rdieterthat's part of kde-applications release
14:45.08EuviusVersion 15.12.3
14:45.22Euviusoh you said that already
14:45.24Euviussorry
14:45.31Euviusso looks like im up to date on that
14:45.56rdieterok, 15.12 should be good enough, again, assumes you have ffmpegthumbs installed too (but that it appears in the UI as selectable implies that it is)
14:46.15Euviusi installed 4 thumbnailers
14:46.53Euviusffmpegthumbs,  mplayerthumbs, kffmpegthumbnailer, ffmpegthumbnailer
14:47.22Euviusffmpegthumbs is the only one that shows up as an option in Dolphin previews
14:47.30Euviusbut its checked, and no previews
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14:52.18Euviusoh well, thanks. rebooting
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14:55.33Euviusits fixed after doing:   sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/
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15:12.11rdieter_workEuvius: ok, definitely a distro-packaging issue then
15:13.13rdieter_workEuvius: and googling finds it reported already, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/1505014
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15:13.39rdieter_workEuvius: and, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpegthumbs/+bug/1574037
15:14.55ocharles_Hello. Does anyone here use xmonad with kde5? I have a problem that it's all mostly working, but on startup the desktop background is a floating window that seems to cover everything. I have to "quit" the wallpaper
15:15.12ocharles_This window also has a little hamburger menu in the top left - maybe it's plasma shell? Not sure, I'm new to KDE
15:15.33rdieter_workocharles_: both of those items are plasmashell
15:16.22rdieter_workit handles desktop widgets, including desktop containment (wallpaper)
15:16.30ocharles_ah yes, I see that when I right click on it
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15:25.23Euviusrdieter_work yeah, thats where I got it
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16:04.14nemysishello again
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16:32.22wtigerHi!
16:34.55wtigertrying to set up vpn on my arch system running kde...  installed plasma-nm, but when I click the wifi icon in the bottom bar, and choose properties, things mess up..
16:36.09wtigerby things i mean the bottom bar messes up, everything shifts to the left, and there's wlp3s... written in the newly created space..
16:36.15wtigerwhat might be the issue?
16:36.15swimmer_hello g33ks, anyone knows how to allow non-root users to full operate NetworkManager (using kde and 16.04)?
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17:21.46vandenoevermy krunner is running, but it will not display any more
17:22.03vandenoeveralt-f2 takes focus away from the active app, but nothing is shown
17:22.20vandenoeverand i can still type commands and they run
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17:42.03BlaXpiritvandenoever, maybe something is always-on-top
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17:43.02vandenoeverBlaXpirit: no, that's not it
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