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| 00:20.25 | Strav | Hi! Small question: anyone else experiencing continuous re-sync of davmail based imap folders in kmail (more or less upon each reboot)? - Seemingly, I'm having this issue since updating to Akonadi 5.1.3. Also tried: akonadictl vacuum, akonadictl fsck, nothing helps. |
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| 06:10.54 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
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| 07:01.29 | sayan_ | how to install kf5doctools in ubuntu?? |
| 07:02.30 | valorie | !info kf5doctools |
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| 07:03.01 | valorie | hmmm |
| 07:03.33 | sayan_ | what?? |
| 07:03.33 | valorie | apt-cache search finds nothing either, sayan_ |
| 07:03.47 | valorie | what is it? |
| 07:04.09 | sayan_ | that !info in your comment?? |
| 07:04.27 | valorie | that asks the bot for infomation about the package |
| 07:04.37 | valorie | but the bot gave no answer |
| 07:05.24 | sayan_ | Can't find anything using apt-cache search |
| 07:05.37 | valorie | as I said |
| 07:05.52 | valorie | what is it, and what does it do? |
| 07:06.00 | valorie | could it be called something else? |
| 07:06.47 | valorie | I see |
| 07:06.50 | valorie | kdoctools - various tools for accessing application documentation |
| 07:06.53 | valorie | kdoctools-dev - Development files for kdoctools5 |
| 07:07.25 | valorie | !info kdoctools |
| 07:07.47 | valorie | what the heck, where is the bot? |
| 07:10.06 | sayan_ | googled about it but no good answer |
| 07:11.04 | valorie | so you are working on documentation for KDE? |
| 07:11.40 | valorie | it would be better to check with the doc team, and be sure that it does exist |
| 07:12.05 | valorie | if it does, we can file a "please package" bug in launchpad |
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| 07:14.21 | sayan_ | No I am trying to install software from kde using CMake.but it showing error because couldn't find KF5DocToolsConfig.cmake kf5doctools-config.cmake |
| 07:15.31 | valorie | that doesn't sound like a packagename |
| 07:15.53 | valorie | please ask in #kde-devel |
| 07:16.21 | valorie | what are you trying to install? It sounds like you are instead trying to build from source? |
| 07:16.36 | sayan_ | articulate |
| 07:17.16 | valorie | from source? |
| 07:19.11 | valorie | !info articulate |
| 07:19.18 | valorie | still no ubottu |
| 07:20.34 | valorie | apt-cache search articulate doesn't find a package of that name, so I assume you are building it |
| 07:21.22 | valorie | if it is a packagename, that should packaged |
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| 08:11.31 | AfterDarkness | anyone know what the problem might be with my dashboard not showing as much recent applications as I want? |
| 08:11.48 | AfterDarkness | currently only 4 are showing |
| 08:12.05 | AfterDarkness | on my laptop this didn't happen |
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| 08:14.12 | DarwinElf | how do I restore the KDE menu information for some program? I temporarily replaced my OS (64-bit Slackware 14.1 updated to latest stable) Firefox package with a newer Firefox, then gave up on that, tried to change it back, but the menu item is still looking for my old entry... |
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| 08:17.35 | DarwinElf | nm, I think I found it out |
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| 08:22.49 | mike-zal | how to set dolphin dialog windows (open/save) globally? I have dolphin as default file manager already and yet in generic system actions it opens qt dialog window, on gtk programs as ff it opens nemo's dialog windows. |
| 08:23.57 | BlaXpirit | mike-zal, welp that's not how things work unfortunately |
| 08:24.49 | BlaXpirit | applications do whatever they want, can't change them without ... actually changing them and recompiling |
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| 08:26.05 | mike-zal | well, I'm fine with nemo's dialogs on firefox but I have trouble when I want to set wallpaper, becayse my dialog window doesn't show icon view and previews so I have no clue which file I want to add to my wallpapers |
| 08:26.45 | BlaXpirit | mike-zal, it's not actually "dolphin's dialogs" and "nemo's dialogs" |
| 08:26.49 | BlaXpirit | just Qt/GTK |
| 08:27.22 | BlaXpirit | yes, GTK's dialogs are idiotic, especially v3, but not much you can do |
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| 08:28.31 | mike-zal | BlaXpirit: the issue is with wallpaper. It did work correctly some time ago |
| 08:28.54 | BlaXpirit | I don't understand what wallpaper are you talking about in the context of firefox |
| 08:29.04 | BlaXpirit | firefox recently switched from GTK2 to GTK3 |
| 08:29.04 | ShalokShalom | BlaXpirit: you can use qt dialog in GIMP and other GTK apps |
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| 08:30.03 | mike-zal | BlaXpirit: that is correct dialog window: http://imgur.com/yJRupyj |
| 08:30.19 | mike-zal | and this is how it looks for me: http://imgur.com/1EWsPsH |
| 08:31.04 | mike-zal | and it used to look like on the first screen |
| 08:31.46 | cousin_luigi | /c/c |
| 08:32.18 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: kmozillahelper isnt ported to plasma5 yet |
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| 08:32.28 | ShalokShalom | why firefox at all? |
| 08:33.19 | ShalokShalom | and you can find the wallpaper in dolphin, rename it to something recogniseable and set it in firefox then |
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| 08:33.42 | BlaXpirit | mike-zal, OK, I have the "correct" dialog window when I select wallpaper image |
| 08:34.00 | BlaXpirit | wouldn't be surprised if it's manjaro's mess-up |
| 08:34.23 | AfterDarkness | anyone know how to deal with my issue? |
| 08:34.33 | ShalokShalom | AfterDarkness: which issue? |
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| 08:34.40 | ShalokShalom | ah, i read |
| 08:34.48 | AfterDarkness | anyone know what the problem might be with my dashboard not showing as much recent applications as I want? |
| 08:34.52 | AfterDarkness | oh sorry |
| 08:35.03 | mike-zal | ShalokShalom: yes, I could do that but I have lot of files and and it's hard to rename them all. |
| 08:35.10 | ShalokShalom | i see |
| 08:35.15 | ShalokShalom | set it with Qupzilla? |
| 08:35.26 | ShalokShalom | works nice here, since QtWebEngine |
| 08:35.35 | ShalokShalom | html5 theme is even much higher |
| 08:35.40 | ShalokShalom | theme = test |
| 08:36.33 | mike-zal | BlaXpirit: so you see my problem. it's not typical open/save window. |
| 08:37.08 | mike-zal | otheriwise system worked fine, but the last update seemed to throw it off. it's hard to describe issues |
| 08:37.48 | mike-zal | for example, every minute or two my computer freezes... and it happens only for konversation window. didn't have that before |
| 08:37.56 | ShalokShalom | ah |
| 08:37.59 | ShalokShalom | kpartsplugin |
| 08:38.10 | ShalokShalom | didnt know, if it works for 5 |
| 08:38.54 | mike-zal | when I log out and the want to log in to kde, it freeezes and I have to reboot. going back to login screen and login to gnome works. only kde is one time login.... it worked fine |
| 08:39.00 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: konversation, the irc client? |
| 08:39.04 | mike-zal | yes |
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| 08:39.11 | ShalokShalom | launch in konsole |
| 08:39.15 | ShalokShalom | #konversation |
| 08:39.26 | ShalokShalom | quassel is an alternative |
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| 08:39.29 | ShalokShalom | qt |
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| 08:39.56 | mike-zal | I'm typin and suddenly text is not showing and hdd is working hard then it unfreezes and put what I wrote during the freeze |
| 08:41.47 | ShalokShalom | https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/firefox-kde-opensuse/ |
| 08:41.59 | BlaXpirit | ShalokShalom, it's broken, isn't it? |
| 08:42.03 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: you get output in konsole |
| 08:42.07 | ShalokShalom | BlaXpirit: what? |
| 08:42.14 | ShalokShalom | Quassel? |
| 08:42.16 | BlaXpirit | ShalokShalom, that AUR package |
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| 08:42.29 | ShalokShalom | yeah, maybe, i mean the software in general |
| 08:42.32 | BlaXpirit | tried it at multiple points in time, it never worked |
| 08:42.39 | ShalokShalom | i use KaOS here |
| 08:43.05 | ShalokShalom | i link it to show, that this software is available in general |
| 08:43.23 | ShalokShalom | dont know even, which OS mike is using |
| 08:43.30 | BlaXpirit | manjaro |
| 08:43.40 | BlaXpirit | it's amazing what people will do just to avoid arch linux installation |
| 08:43.40 | ShalokShalom | firefox from opensuse is pretty hacky, from what i read |
| 08:43.44 | ShalokShalom | i use Qupzilla here |
| 08:43.53 | ShalokShalom | BlaXpirit: why? |
| 08:44.21 | BlaXpirit | well exactly, I don't know why they do that |
| 08:44.30 | ShalokShalom | what you mean with "avoid arch"? |
| 08:44.49 | ShalokShalom | KaOS is independend, if you mean that |
| 08:44.50 | mike-zal | BlaXpirit: tried arch with architect. installation was fine but sustem won't boot. just blank screen or hangs on boot. |
| 08:45.27 | ShalokShalom | BlaXpirit: KDE is my platform and since that, KaOS my OS |
| 08:45.48 | mike-zal | even apricity os or antergos won't fly becayse they forgot to put broadcom drivers in iso's so there is no wifi in life and instlation cannot start |
| 08:45.55 | BlaXpirit | ShalokShalom, ok if you wanna have the rest of your system other than kde crippled that's fine |
| 08:45.59 | mike-zal | only manjaro works out or the box |
| 08:46.15 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: these distros count to the most buggy one for me |
| 08:46.25 | ShalokShalom | BlaXpirit: what you mean? |
| 08:47.53 | mike-zal | ShalokShalom: was using manjaro gnome/kde for few months and it was working flawlessly. latest update with gtk3 and gnome 3.20 changed that. even latest kde update (not 5.6, this worked out fine) did something weird |
| 08:48.18 | mike-zal | I guess I will run reinstall of all native packages. there is a nice command for that. let me look for it. |
| 08:48.23 | ShalokShalom | you mean plasma 5.6 |
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| 08:49.01 | mike-zal | there were some new kde update (not plasma, but general kde) this week |
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| 08:49.23 | mike-zal | along with gnome 3.20 |
| 08:49.32 | mike-zal | almost 500 packages |
| 08:49.35 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: general KDE? |
| 08:49.51 | ShalokShalom | KDE is the name of the community |
| 08:49.53 | BlaXpirit | probably kde applications |
| 08:50.03 | mike-zal | I mean some kde components but not the plasma version |
| 08:50.18 | ShalokShalom | here can you see all the 3 components: https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules |
| 08:50.53 | ShalokShalom | BlaXpirit: what do you mean with crippled? |
| 08:51.22 | mike-zal | maybe it's time to reinstall system again. it was working so well for the past few months. stable and without major problems. |
| 08:52.07 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: you know about snapper and grub-btrfs? |
| 08:52.20 | mike-zal | not sure what those are. |
| 08:52.31 | ShalokShalom | no need to reinstall in such a case then |
| 08:52.38 | ShalokShalom | just boot into a former image in grub |
| 08:52.51 | mike-zal | grub I know but btrf? |
| 08:52.57 | ShalokShalom | filesystem |
| 08:53.02 | ShalokShalom | like XFS, ext4 |
| 08:53.10 | mike-zal | I use ext4 |
| 08:53.12 | ShalokShalom | snapper handle its snapshot feature |
| 08:53.36 | ShalokShalom | use btrfs with snapper, grub-btrfs and snap-pac |
| 08:53.37 | mike-zal | sounds interesting |
| 08:53.42 | BlaXpirit | if you use arch, you don't need to reinstall in the first place, but what do i know... |
| 08:53.51 | ShalokShalom | the only issue is, that the AUR package of grub-btrfs is incomplete |
| 08:54.20 | mike-zal | ah, nixnote stopped working after last system update. it's an aur package. |
| 08:54.22 | ShalokShalom | BlaXpirit: that helps even, if he delete some files by mistake |
| 08:54.41 | ShalokShalom | and arch make troubles from time to time, especially with aur packages |
| 08:54.43 | ShalokShalom | imho |
| 08:55.11 | mike-zal | switching to kosole start of koncersation, brb |
| 08:55.23 | AfterDarkness | on the 'application launcher' the history tap seems alright, only the dashboard seems to have this problem with me |
| 08:55.43 | ShalokShalom | then report it on kde bugs? |
| 08:55.51 | ShalokShalom | same distro on your laptop? |
| 08:55.56 | ShalokShalom | same updates |
| 08:55.58 | ShalokShalom | ? |
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| 08:56.12 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: how skilled you are? |
| 08:56.57 | mike-zal | ShalokShalom: not very... I'm not a tech user, rather very average system user, atypical for a linux user ;P |
| 08:57.16 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: i explain you, what all these components are: |
| 08:57.19 | mike-zal | anyway, in terminal I got this: QCoreApplication::arguments: Please instantiate the QApplication object first |
| 08:57.24 | ShalokShalom | btrfs is the filesystem, as you know already |
| 08:57.27 | mike-zal | not sure if it's problem |
| 08:57.34 | ShalokShalom | snapper handle its snapshots feature |
| 08:58.00 | ShalokShalom | grub-btrfs is a plugin for grub, which allows you to boot into different snapshots of your system |
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| 08:58.14 | ShalokShalom | by default create snapper one snapshot per hour, you can change that |
| 08:58.32 | ShalokShalom | snap-pac creates a snapshot before and after each pacman use |
| 08:58.40 | ShalokShalom | all is in aur |
| 08:58.41 | mike-zal | I'd rather not to change file systems. ext4 is fine and I don't have enough knowlge and time to mess with that. |
| 08:58.58 | ShalokShalom | in order to use grub-btrfs, read and follow: how to use: https://github.com/Antynea/grub-btrfs |
| 08:59.12 | mike-zal | also, I use laptop with hdd so such snapshots would slow dowm my computer |
| 08:59.12 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: simply choose btrfs, when reinstall, thats it |
| 08:59.20 | ShalokShalom | why? |
| 08:59.32 | ShalokShalom | do you know, how btrfs create them? |
| 08:59.35 | mike-zal | is taking snapshots not equal with backup? |
| 08:59.38 | ShalokShalom | no |
| 08:59.41 | ShalokShalom | completly not |
| 08:59.44 | mike-zal | ok |
| 08:59.46 | ShalokShalom | they are also very lean |
| 08:59.58 | ShalokShalom | just backup the changed files |
| 09:00.02 | ShalokShalom | "backup" |
| 09:00.10 | ShalokShalom | its on filesystem level |
| 09:00.20 | mike-zal | well, I'm not to skilled enough to know or look for the files to restore |
| 09:00.29 | mike-zal | so that wouldn't help me much |
| 09:00.30 | ShalokShalom | just boot into them in grub |
| 09:01.14 | mike-zal | ShalokShalom: it sounds like a great idea but not on my level of knowldge. I realized the issue with open/save windows only recently but had it since a month or more. |
| 09:01.51 | mike-zal | was just irrtated that I don't have preview and thought: it's a dolphin thing, will look into that later. |
| 09:02.03 | mike-zal | but when I did, I realized my mistake |
| 09:02.20 | mike-zal | about these konversation freezes, they are not caused by konversation |
| 09:02.40 | mike-zal | no additional info on terminal. just hdd starts to work and then app freezes/ |
| 09:02.55 | mike-zal | that didn't happen before last update |
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| 09:03.24 | mike-zal | opened sustem monitor to see which process spikes during freeze |
| 09:03.26 | genstorm | I doubt a reinstall will cure that, it might just be the current state of your rolling-release |
| 09:03.40 | mike-zal | genstorm: that may be it |
| 09:03.42 | lordievader | Good morning. |
| 09:04.27 | ShalokShalom | no additional info in konsole output doesnt mean, its not konversation |
| 09:04.28 | mike-zal | but over time history builds, you mess with system, even in seemingly safe way and the some update comes and it all falls apart |
| 09:04.46 | ShalokShalom | and yeah, it might be a packaging issue, framework issue and so on |
| 09:04.48 | genstorm | that's windows voodoo logic |
| 09:04.55 | mike-zal | ironically, after opening system monitor freezes are not occuring... |
| 09:05.25 | genstorm | the install on my laptop is 7 years old |
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| 09:05.39 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: leave it open and wait for the next freeze |
| 09:05.58 | ShalokShalom | genstorm: you are skilled enough, to handle issues |
| 09:06.07 | ShalokShalom | or no issues in all this 7 years? |
| 09:06.10 | mike-zal | my current kde install is a custom DE install over gnome release |
| 09:06.17 | ShalokShalom | oh |
| 09:06.21 | mike-zal | that may cause something |
| 09:06.22 | genstorm | ShalokShalom: nothing that would have been solved by a reinstall |
| 09:06.23 | ShalokShalom | yep |
| 09:06.34 | ShalokShalom | genstorm: in your opinion |
| 09:06.40 | genstorm | in my experience |
| 09:06.52 | ShalokShalom | and all that can be solved with a rollback |
| 09:07.04 | ShalokShalom | and least for the moment |
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| 09:08.24 | mike-zal | it's a bit ironic, because official kde release was unsable for me |
| 09:08.46 | mike-zal | when I did my own kde install over gnome it worked perectly. |
| 09:08.58 | ShalokShalom | arch |
| 09:09.15 | mike-zal | didn't even know that kde could be so problematicless |
| 09:09.17 | genstorm | that's also voodoo logic, because you compare to different states of rolling release, but I told you that already ;) |
| 09:09.23 | genstorm | *two |
| 09:09.33 | mike-zal | genstorm: yes, you are right. that might be it. |
| 09:09.35 | ShalokShalom | genstorm: that too |
| 09:10.04 | mike-zal | but still. it's a long weekend and I have time to reinstall system. |
| 09:10.06 | ShalokShalom | anyway: you use the stable repos, yes mike? |
| 09:10.11 | ShalokShalom | ^^ |
| 09:10.39 | mike-zal | I was happy with my gnome -> 3.20 update made it less nice, some extentions are not uo to date |
| 09:10.59 | mike-zal | I was happy with kde -> update threw it out of balance |
| 09:11.02 | genstorm | gnome 3.20 seems to break breeze-gtk or so I've heard |
| 09:11.09 | ShalokShalom | yep |
| 09:11.37 | ShalokShalom | i ask myself, for what are the dev repos in arch |
| 09:11.50 | mike-zal | and although that might be release state, it might be also update being messed up |
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| 09:11.59 | ShalokShalom | ah yeah, focus on different DEs |
| 09:12.13 | ShalokShalom | and support non of that fully |
| 09:12.18 | mike-zal | I know from experience that install is not equal with another install, even from THE SAME ISO FILE |
| 09:12.36 | mike-zal | so sometimes things go horrily wrong with no reason |
| 09:12.51 | BlaXpirit | yes, on terrible distros like manjaro |
| 09:12.53 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: same media as well? |
| 09:12.57 | mike-zal | nex install and all problems are solved |
| 09:13.02 | mike-zal | yes |
| 09:13.04 | ShalokShalom | with the same copy process to the media |
| 09:13.12 | ShalokShalom | same configs in installation? |
| 09:13.18 | ShalokShalom | same repo state :P |
| 09:13.30 | ShalokShalom | same usb port |
| 09:13.41 | genstorm | doesn't it fetch the latest state on installation? |
| 09:13.42 | mike-zal | it happened in various distros during my linux history. my first ubuntu instalation was corrupted and thought that's ubuntu's fault |
| 09:13.49 | ShalokShalom | genstorm: yep |
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| 09:14.05 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: might be a hardware issue |
| 09:14.06 | ShalokShalom | hdd |
| 09:14.14 | ShalokShalom | *an |
| 09:14.24 | mike-zal | then I tried different distros and every now and then some weird bugs were present in some installas, while reinstall was fixing them magically |
| 09:14.37 | ShalokShalom | sounds like broken hdd to me |
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| 09:14.46 | ShalokShalom | how old? |
| 09:14.51 | mike-zal | the hint that it's install corruption: no one else has that bug |
| 09:14.53 | ShalokShalom | which vendor and model? |
| 09:15.05 | mike-zal | lenovo G780 |
| 09:15.06 | ShalokShalom | yep, sounds like that |
| 09:15.11 | ShalokShalom | the hdd |
| 09:15.16 | mike-zal | no idea |
| 09:15.41 | mike-zal | last time I checked it with some app (that run before system boot), it was in good condition. no bad sectors |
| 09:15.42 | ShalokShalom | inxi -D |
| 09:15.49 | mike-zal | ok |
| 09:15.54 | ShalokShalom | ok |
| 09:16.19 | mike-zal | model: ST1000LM024_HN |
| 09:16.39 | ShalokShalom | maybe loose contact, idk |
| 09:16.46 | ShalokShalom | laptop? |
| 09:16.50 | mike-zal | the freeze might be baloo related |
| 09:16.54 | ShalokShalom | tz |
| 09:17.02 | mike-zal | yes, laptop |
| 09:17.11 | ShalokShalom | never had ah freeze here, use baloo since its out |
| 09:17.38 | mike-zal | I noticed that baloo behaves weridly since last update |
| 09:17.39 | ShalokShalom | only freeze happens in live mode, with swap and ram missing |
| 09:18.01 | mike-zal | usually it just worked a few mintues and then it was quiet and not seen :P |
| 09:18.02 | ShalokShalom | dozens of distro specic issues. |
| 09:18.11 | ShalokShalom | yep |
| 09:18.14 | ShalokShalom | hnn |
| 09:18.26 | mike-zal | and now it starts to work now and then as if new files were added while there are not. just typing in here |
| 09:18.28 | ShalokShalom | anyone else here with baloo issues/freezes? |
| 09:19.33 | ShalokShalom | are there new files, who are not correct recognised by baloo? |
| 09:19.41 | ShalokShalom | sorry for my beta english skills |
| 09:19.47 | ShalokShalom | : |
| 09:19.50 | ShalokShalom | :) |
| 09:19.50 | mike-zal | no idea |
| 09:19.54 | ShalokShalom | ok |
| 09:20.14 | ShalokShalom | hdds break silently, step by step |
| 09:21.25 | mike-zal | it's weird. baloo shows 100-200MB in memory and has status sleeped on disk, doesn't show buch cpu usage, if so it's 1% and yet it shows on the top list (filtered by CPU usage) now and then |
| 09:21.28 | ShalokShalom | hnn, yours is about 4 years old? |
| 09:21.41 | ShalokShalom | how many and much files? |
| 09:22.15 | mike-zal | it was bought in 2012 at the end |
| 09:22.20 | mike-zal | so it's used heavily since 2013 |
| 09:22.27 | ShalokShalom | #baloo |
| 09:22.39 | mike-zal | ok |
| 09:22.51 | ShalokShalom | oh, they resolve the channel |
| 09:22.52 | mike-zal | didn't know it has own channel :P |
| 09:22.58 | ShalokShalom | its away |
| 09:23.08 | mike-zal | lol |
| 09:23.57 | ShalokShalom | #kde-baloo |
| 09:24.02 | ShalokShalom | its there :) |
| 09:24.30 | ShalokShalom | all is up to date? |
| 09:25.09 | ShalokShalom | then report, you use baloo 5.21.0 |
| 09:25.52 | genstorm | the easiest thing to determine if baloo is causing freezes is to disable it for a try |
| 09:26.14 | genstorm | but in the past this has mostly come from xorg-server/mesa/kernel updates |
| 09:26.22 | ShalokShalom | yep |
| 09:26.33 | ShalokShalom | which gpu/driver do you use? |
| 09:27.01 | mike-zal | have a friend on polish manjaro channel who is skilled with kde. chatting with him know over balooo settings |
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| 09:27.14 | ShalokShalom | fine |
| 09:27.26 | mike-zal | thanks ShalokShalom for the channel |
| 09:27.29 | ShalokShalom | sure |
| 09:27.59 | mike-zal | and genstorm for the help. he also things that baloo has some indexing problem hence it's behaviour |
| 09:28.02 | ShalokShalom | imho is it always a good idea, to contact the devs itself |
| 09:28.10 | ShalokShalom | how knows the software, if not them? |
| 09:28.32 | mike-zal | be back later. cannot talk in too many channels simultanously :P |
| 09:28.39 | ShalokShalom | mike-zal: delete the baloo process and restart it |
| 09:28.44 | ShalokShalom | sure |
| 09:30.34 | mike-zal | ok, will do. but it comes back after reboot so the issue is not resolved by that |
| 09:30.46 | ShalokShalom | ah, ok |
| 09:30.59 | ShalokShalom | i read one time about a baloo issue, which get resolved in that way |
| 09:31.07 | ShalokShalom | *an |
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| 10:05.48 | Agrajag- | g'day, i'm trying to use kdeconnect with my android device, i seem to only receive one notifications, then i don't receive any other after that (but the device is still paired, i can use remote input/multimedia etc) |
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| 10:06.32 | Agrajag- | so i get the first ping on my desktop, but then after that if i send ping from android i just don't see them |
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| 10:18.15 | mike-zal | Agrajag-: on your phone turn off wifi and turn on |
| 10:18.27 | mike-zal | it should reconnect |
| 10:18.46 | mike-zal | once in a while it has to be done to keep connection active |
| 10:19.11 | makism | hey all :> |
| 10:19.59 | makism | i was wondering, is the "Dashboard"-functionality from 4.14 is removed from the latest plasma release? |
| 10:21.46 | Agrajag- | mike-zal: it's not the wifi connect, it's still connected, i can still use other kdeconnect settings, i just am not seeing any notifications, only the first |
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| 10:25.12 | Agrajag- | if i kill kdeconnectd and restart it, i get one more notification, then again no more |
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| 10:55.56 | edgy | Hi, my baloo_file_extractor takes 100% of cpu thought I started it a couple of days ago, baloosearch shows old files that are not there anymore |
| 10:56.18 | edgy | couldn't find baloo_file_cleaner which mentioned in the web |
| 10:58.38 | rdieter | edgy: what does this say? balooctl status |
| 10:59.04 | rdieter | I'd guess it got stuck on something |
| 10:59.30 | edgy | rdieter: Baloo File Indexer is running |
| 10:59.30 | edgy | Indexer state: Idle |
| 10:59.33 | edgy | Indexed 3960 / 5652 files |
| 10:59.33 | edgy | Current size of index is 76.98 MiB |
| 11:00.21 | rdieter | rats, I hoped it would give a clue what was currently being indexed |
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| 11:01.34 | edgy | rdieter: yes I don't kow how to tell what is baloo doing at the moment, it's all hidden somewhere |
| 11:02.02 | rdieter | there's a way, I just don't know what it is off the top of my head |
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| 11:02.25 | genstorm | balooctl monitor? |
| 11:03.15 | edgy | genstorm: that shows no result, so does this mean it's doing nothing and still take 100% cpu? |
| 11:03.56 | genstorm | the problem with monitor is it doesn't show you the currently being indexed file |
| 11:04.12 | genstorm | it'll wait for baloo to pick the next one |
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| 11:05.58 | edgy | genstorm: I tried to manually run balooctl index filename but still nothing |
| 11:07.52 | edgy | may be I should delete all baloo configurations and restart from 0 or what? |
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| 12:13.13 | ShalokShalom | hi there |
| 12:13.27 | ShalokShalom | where are the icons for systray stored, please? |
| 12:15.46 | ShalokShalom | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:18.40 | BluesKaj | ShalokShalom,h what are you trying to do ? |
| 12:22.22 | BluesKaj | ShalokShalom, right ckick on the desktop, choose add widgets , get new widgets, download new widgets, type weather in the textbox |
| 12:22.41 | ShalokShalom | <ShalokShalom> where are the icons for systray stored, please? |
| 12:22.55 | ShalokShalom | applet is here since long ago and working |
| 12:22.55 | rdieter | ShalokShalom: /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/icons are the overrides, can you be more specific what you're looking for? |
| 12:23.23 | ShalokShalom | where is the systray icon for this weather applet |
| 12:23.40 | rdieter | ok, applets != systray icons |
| 12:23.56 | ShalokShalom | i know |
| 12:23.58 | ShalokShalom | and? |
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| 12:24.10 | ShalokShalom | applets come sometimes with systray applets |
| 12:24.19 | ShalokShalom | again: <ShalokShalom> where are the icons for systray stored, please? |
| 12:24.25 | ShalokShalom | whats so difficult? |
| 12:24.27 | rdieter | applets typically provide their own resources (including icons), though it can be provided by icon themes too |
| 12:24.33 | ShalokShalom | fine |
| 12:24.35 | ShalokShalom | thanks |
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| 12:24.37 | ShalokShalom | and? |
| 12:24.39 | rdieter | which weather applet? |
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| 12:25.13 | ShalokShalom | https://github.com/kotelnik/plasma-applet-weather-widget |
| 12:25.27 | ShalokShalom | see above also: /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.weatherWidget/ |
| 12:26.08 | rdieter | https://github.com/kotelnik/plasma-applet-weather-widget/blob/master/package/metadata.desktop references Icon=/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.weatherWidget/contents/images/weather-widget.svg does that not exist? |
| 12:26.40 | ShalokShalom | yeah and that one is something else |
| 12:26.45 | rdieter | k |
| 12:26.51 | ShalokShalom | its the icon from and for the desktop version |
| 12:27.21 | ShalokShalom | http://funkyimg.com/i/2bkFZ.png |
| 12:27.27 | ShalokShalom | see the systray |
| 12:27.42 | rdieter | probably best to ask the author of that applet then |
| 12:27.47 | ShalokShalom | thanks a lot |
| 12:28.07 | rdieter | fwiw, svg's can contain multiple items too |
| 12:28.13 | ShalokShalom | hnn |
| 12:28.17 | ShalokShalom | how to detect? |
| 12:29.20 | rdieter | use an app that's specialized for svg, like inkscape perhaps |
| 12:29.49 | ShalokShalom | karbon is that |
| 12:29.59 | ShalokShalom | KDEs Inkscape, to be precise :) |
| 12:30.14 | rdieter | i've not used karbon much, I don't know if it supports that or not, though I'd guess it may |
| 12:30.39 | ShalokShalom | the applet switch its colour, if i change the desktop theme, is that a sign for something? |
| 12:30.52 | ShalokShalom | like, when i change to midna dark, it goes white |
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| 12:32.48 | ShalokShalom | or is that just an intelligent invert? |
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| 12:35.30 | rdieter | ShalokShalom: maybe, interestingly the code also references ../fonts/weathericons-regular-webfont-2.0.10.ttf' |
| 12:35.53 | ShalokShalom | ../ = ? |
| 12:35.57 | ShalokShalom | home? hidden? |
| 12:37.07 | rdieter | relative to where it's installed, I assume |
| 12:37.10 | ShalokShalom | ah, got it ^^ |
| 12:37.34 | ShalokShalom | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.46 | ShalokShalom | thanks so much :D |
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| 12:56.51 | ShalokShalom | which app is meaned to edit ttf? |
| 12:58.36 | ShalokShalom | ah fontforge.. |
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| 13:45.03 | squidgirl | is there an easy way to sign out the local tty connections when press the powerbutton to put laptop to sleep... |
| 13:48.11 | SysGhost | squidgirl: you could reassing the button to run a script of yours. |
| 13:48.49 | squidgirl | SysGhost, i dont see the run script option in the kde system selection |
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| 13:49.45 | squidgirl | SysGhost, when powerbutton is pressed.. no script option.. |
| 13:50.08 | squidgirl | so i need to listen it in to cli acpi something something... |
| 13:50.36 | squidgirl | its just an sudo pkill login with no password... |
| 13:50.48 | squidgirl | i got that.. |
| 13:50.51 | SysGhost | squidgirl: Should be as easy as configuring the button under "shortcuts" |
| 13:51.43 | SysGhost | create a new custom shortcut, and define the sleep button. A dialogue will appear tellign you it's already configured. Answer that you want to override the default. |
| 13:52.43 | squidgirl | cewl sounds just what i need.. how do i create a shortcut ?? |
| 13:53.17 | SysGhost | System settings -> Shortcuts (under section "workspace") |
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| 13:53.53 | SysGhost | Select custom shortcuts on the left, then Edit -> New -> Global -> Command/URL |
| 13:54.23 | SysGhost | Rest should be self-explanatory. |
| 13:56.49 | SysGhost | Sometimes hitting a system button, such as power, sleep etc. while trying to configure it won't work. Could be that their functions are hard-coded. Try to find a different key-combination and use that instead. |
| 13:58.18 | SysGhost | There is however a different approach outside KDE. And that is to use so called pm scripts under one of the .d directories @ /etc/pm/ |
| 13:59.10 | squidgirl | yes but that wont listen to when kde goes to sleep after a X min time on battery |
| 14:00.09 | squidgirl | i keep it as it is for now... to much deep linux work i need to dig in to it.. |
| 14:00.23 | SysGhost | Right. KDE is using its own power management that overrides the system default behaviour. Kinda sad. |
| 14:02.28 | SysGhost | What I did was to disable all of KDE's power management, and I let the underlying system do the work.. .as intended. |
| 14:09.20 | SysGhost | squidgirl: I guess you don't want any lingering TTY's open after sleep and resume. One way to secure things up a bit by disabling KDE's power management. Then use pm-utils to handle all suspend and resume actions. There you can use /etc/pm/sleep.d/ script to call /bin/vlock on all open TTY's on the "thaw" event. |
| 14:10.45 | SysGhost | squidgirl: Here's a good start: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/163166/lock-system-after-awake-suspend-incl-forced-shutdowns-system-after-countdown |
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| 14:24.34 | squidgirl | SysGhost, thanks i bookmarked it for later use.. |
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| 14:32.54 | SysGhost | squidgirl: Here's another idea: on tty login, have .bashrc (or the equivalent to your shell) running a loop that looks for a process named "kscreenlocker_greet". When its triggered (process found), call vlock on all open TTY's |
| 14:38.39 | squidgirl | \o/ |
| 14:39.14 | squidgirl | vlock ? |
| 14:39.30 | squidgirl | i have an sudo pkill login script |
| 14:39.43 | squidgirl | with out password :) |
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| 15:16.33 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hi. |
| 15:30.09 | Zaister | Is there a way I to tell KDE to open new windows on a certain screen? |
| 15:30.48 | Fuchs | Zaister: yes, you can create a window rule for that |
| 15:30.59 | Zaister | Ah ok |
| 15:33.52 | Zaister | what is the difference betwenn "Apply initially" and "Force Temporaily"? |
| 15:34.16 | Fuchs | you want the former, or "remember" (not sure if it is translated that way) |
| 15:34.42 | Zaister | Apply initially seems ok |
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| 15:40.50 | Zaister | thanks that helps |
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| 16:11.14 | cousin_luigi | Is there any plan to make the folder view widget show icons in an arbitrary order? |
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| 16:19.20 | SysGhost | cousin_luigi: as in placing them yourself? like on traditional desktop environments? |
| 16:21.09 | argonauts | I'm having an issue building kde plasma from source on Centos 7. Is this the right spot to ask for help? |
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| 16:25.10 | cousin_luigi | SysGhost: Yes. |
| 16:27.03 | argonauts | I put the log files in pastebin: https://paste.kde.org/pxthcvqvp |
| 16:27.54 | argonauts | The build is failing on plasma-desktop for "CMake Error at ConfigureChecks.cmake:5 (message): Couldn't find XKB location: .." |
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| 16:35.29 | argonauts | The output from kdesrc-build -debug that I put in a different pastebin was apparently truncated at 13k lines; if anyone is taking a look and wants the whole thing let me know and I'll split it up into 4 urls |
| 16:35.55 | SysGhost | cousin_luigi: I suspect there will be no KDE-official way to do it, but you can always run another desktop manager together with KDE. I'd suggest "xfdesktop", the desktop part of XFCE |
| 16:37.04 | genstorm | argonauts: you're missing an X dependency |
| 16:37.24 | genstorm | take a look at fedora package for plasma-desktop for clues |
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| 16:39.14 | argonauts | Thats the road I've been going down - I can't figure out what dependency it is, and google has failed me so far. Are you referring to the EPEL packages that just hit stable, or the actual fedora fc23 / fc24 packages? |
| 16:39.36 | genstorm | I have no idea about fedora internals |
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| 16:43.26 | argonauts | There is a cmake warning that "XINPUT from XCB was requested: this is experimental and is likely to (be) unavailable on many systems" |
| 16:44.12 | argonauts | Is there a way to disable that feature in the build config files? |
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| 16:49.50 | kalib | Hello guys. I am running Archlinux with KDE plasma 5. When I first installed it, I could have my keyboard with everything working fine, including " ' ç ã é à á, etc.. But they didn t work on gtk applications in my kde, such as skype, chromium, etc. So I fouind this and followed it: https://gist.github.com/nilo/c2a31a0f9f29c88145ca And now my gtk applications work with these characters, but only the gtk. |
| 16:49.52 | kalib | The kde/qt applications are not receiving these characters anymore. Any tip? |
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| 17:13.45 | cousin_luigi | SysGhost: Well, I was hoping for a feature request. Do you think the maintainer would be responsive? |
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| 17:21.30 | SysGhost | cousin_luigi: Best way to put in a such suggestion would be via the bug tracking system, and file a "bug" as a request/idea. Yes it sounds stupid to do it via the bug tracking, but it is the best way to reach the developers without the message falling into the big empty void of the cyberspace. |
| 17:22.27 | SysGhost | cousin_luigi: https://bugs.kde.org/ |
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| 17:36.24 | cousin_luigi | SysGhost: It would be better to talk to a developer at first. |
| 17:36.37 | cousin_luigi | SysGhost: Many requests languish on bugs.kde.org. |
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| 18:01.08 | deadmund | Is it possible to write plasma 5 applets using python? |
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| 18:05.52 | deadmund | Alternatively, is it possible to run a plasma 4 applet on plasma 5? |
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| 18:07.14 | rdieter | deadmund: no |
| 18:07.31 | rdieter | (the latter question, about plasma4 applets usable on plasma5) |
| 18:08.10 | deadmund | rdieter: thanks. Based on this: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=124308 it seems that one cannot write a plasma 5 applet it python. |
| 18:08.25 | deadmund | I guess that there also is no pyqt5? |
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| 18:10.15 | genstorm | someone has been working in a branch on pykde5 |
| 18:10.32 | genstorm | PyQt5 exists |
| 18:11.07 | deadmund | genstorm: thanks |
| 18:11.52 | rdieter | there is a PyQt5, just no plasma bindings yet |
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| 18:21.14 | deadmund | rdieter: What exactly do "plasma bindings" provide? Can pyqt5 generate a GUI for me? |
| 18:21.53 | rdieter | gui yes in general, something usable by plasma... I'm guessing no |
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| 18:22.23 | rdieter | usable as a plasma applet... that is |
| 18:22.39 | deadmund | rdieter: Ok, thanks. I'll have to wait for support for an applet (not a huge deal) |
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| 19:07.55 | mirshafie | Hey, I'm trying to reset my KDE configuration. Removing ~/.kde4 doesn't work, even if I remove it from a live cd. What to do? |
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| 19:11.44 | SysGhost | mirshafie: log in as root. remove everything you need to remove. Make sure the current user isn't loggen on anywhere. |
| 19:12.07 | genstorm | you don't have to be root to remove files from your user dir |
| 19:12.24 | cousin_luigi | mirshafie: there's still ~/.kde and ~/.config to check |
| 19:12.35 | genstorm | the real question is if this is still a KDE4 desktop |
| 19:14.08 | mirshafie | cousin_luigi: OK, thanks. Might be the ~/.config folder is to blame. I'll try that. |
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| 19:31.07 | tosky | mirshafie: don't blindly remove all the files from ~/.config and ~/.local, or you will lose a lot of other customization (many programs also outside the KDE project use them, they a standard) |
| 19:31.31 | tosky | SysGhost: and root has nothing to do with a user configuration |
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| 19:31.45 | mirshafie | tosky: yeah, thanks for the heads-up. |
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| 19:40.46 | fschuindt | How can I start the kwallet? I just want to change from blowfish to ssh-keys but can't find how to open it again. Any tip? |
| 19:42.00 | cousin_luigi | bbl |
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| 20:04.51 | rdieter | fschuindt: kwalletmanager (or kwalletmanager5) depending on which kwallet you want to operate on |
| 20:05.21 | rdieter | kde4-based kwalletd or kf5-based kwalletd5, respectively |
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| 21:26.20 | Langley | Help, how do I mirror displays in KDE 5_ |
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| 21:29.26 | tosky | Langley: did you try from systemsettings? |
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| 21:32.24 | Langley | tosky: Yes. Found out that I have to drag the TV icon onto the laptop icon. It seems to work but that's really cryptic |
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| 21:40.45 | BlaXpirit | Langley, unify outputs? |
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| 21:42.10 | Langley | No, that puts the TV into the same resolution as the laptop |
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| 21:43.01 | Langley | Oh god I cant turn it back now, the window is too tall, I cant reach the Accept button |
| 21:43.11 | BlaXpirit | Langley, alt+drag |
| 21:43.16 | BlaXpirit | i think that's on by default |
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| 21:43.45 | Langley | Now my task bar disappeared |
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| 21:55.06 | nemysis | make a new task bar on desktop free place right mouse |
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| 22:13.47 | robotdevil1 | why does clock alway get messed up |
| 22:14.08 | robotdevil1 | pretty sure bios is correct |
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| 22:27.35 | nemysis | use ntp |
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| 22:36.17 | nulldroid | robotdevil1: use chrony |
| 22:41.05 | robotdevil1 | nulldroid: its just the one on the panel |
| 22:43.56 | nulldroid | robotdevil1: output of date matches time in panel? |
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| 22:51.45 | SaucyJack | Anyone know how to get a 'create new' option when right clciking on the desktop? |
| 22:52.42 | robotdevil1 | brb nulldroid gonna check bios |
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| 23:00.48 | robotdevil1 | nulldroid: i think It is always re-enabling UTC in the system panel clock |
| 23:02.20 | nulldroid | robotdevil1: use chrony to sync hardware clock from the system clock |
| 23:03.12 | robotdevil1 | nulldroid: whats that, some implementation of cron? |
| 23:04.15 | robotdevil1 | maybe its because I accidentally delete a panel for whatever reason and a new one gets created |
| 23:04.29 | robotdevil1 | but with two time zones, one being UTC |
| 23:05.07 | nulldroid | robotdevil1: chrony maintains your system time continuously and starts working as soon as systemd starts it. |
| 23:05.41 | nulldroid | robotdevil1: does output of date matches time in panel? |
| 23:05.59 | robotdevil1 | if I unselect UTC |
| 23:06.14 | robotdevil1 | wonder why it would be like that by default |
| 23:07.23 | robotdevil1 | dont think I have systemd yet |
| 23:08.36 | nulldroid | robotdevil1: replace systemd with init or whatever your system is using |
| 23:14.51 | nulldroid | robotdevil1: 1. install chrony, 2. add nearest ntp server, 3. add rtcfile in chrony.conf 4. run: sudo chronyc -a 'trimrtc' |
| 23:15.15 | nulldroid | The `trimrtc' command is used to correct the system's real time clock (RTC) to the main system clock |
| 23:15.36 | nulldroid | *2. add nearest ntp server in chrony.conf |
| 23:16.02 | robotdevil1 | nulldroid: thanks |
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| 23:16.44 | nulldroid | https://chrony.tuxfamily.org/faq.html |
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| 23:28.55 | mark4 | i still cannot get hibernate working under gentoo |
| 23:29.05 | mark4 | i dont use systemd |
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| 23:32.51 | genstorm | mark4: there's an initialisation order bug |
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