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| 00:39.27 | CyberBotX | So, I'm using KDE 4.14.3 under FreeBSD 10.3 with an nvidia graphics card and my kwin process(es) are using 100% CPU. I had read somewhere that not setting __GL_YIELD to USLEEP would cause this, but I've set that and it hasn't changed the CPU usage of kwin. Any ideas on how to figure out what is going on? |
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| 01:03.08 | kepa | Hi, is best to use opengl 3.1 in kwin or the default 2.0? I'm using nvidia driver 361, 970m card and/or intel 530HD graphics |
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| 05:59.01 | matkam | hello chaps, is this the right channel to ask about kde connect? |
| 05:59.44 | ChemBro | idk, but I'm using KDE Connect, maybe I can help you |
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| 06:00.15 | matkam | hey ChemBro, so I noticed a telepathy plugin in the source code |
| 06:00.29 | matkam | for sms integration |
| 06:00.32 | matkam | any idea how to enable it? |
| 06:01.09 | ChemBro | hm |
| 06:01.22 | ChemBro | actually i don't know |
| 06:02.28 | matkam | https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeconnect-android.git&a=blob&h=04348a8c941c169a4601c483bc3ec4044850c2ad |
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| 06:03.26 | matkam | ^android |
| 06:03.29 | matkam | https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeconnect-kde.git&a=tree&h=234656e2965d018a4271c5d0663fef8291e08225&hb=3103bd0c5a5905922fcc5c32d87fe9949809087a&f=telepathy-cm |
| 06:03.38 | matkam | ^desktop |
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| 08:00.36 | xmorph | anyone using Viber app in plasma5 ? there is no systray icon :/ |
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| 08:05.37 | matkam | bruh did you even google it? |
| 08:05.43 | matkam | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ |
| 08:06.07 | matkam | install libappindicator and sni-qt |
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| 08:07.01 | matkam | maybe only sni-qt |
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| 08:10.27 | xmorph | matkam: thanks |
| 08:10.51 | xmorph | matkam: i have installed dev-libs/sni-qt |
| 08:11.00 | BlaXpirit | i have installed plasma 5.6 that fixes this |
| 08:11.13 | xmorph | BlaXpirit: im on 5.5 |
| 08:11.29 | xmorph | that's it.. |
| 08:12.13 | BlaXpirit | xmorph, sni-qt should fix it easily. viber uses qt :o |
| 08:13.21 | xmorph | BlaXpirit: yes, i know. i have added qt4 gtk2 gtk3 support on plasma-desktop to fix missing systray icons... |
| 08:13.29 | xmorph | BlaXpirit: Viber is buggy app :) |
| 08:14.14 | BlaXpirit | xmorph, well this is qt 5 |
| 08:14.39 | xmorph | BlaXpirit: but plasma desktop 5 has qt5 support bu it's self |
| 08:14.43 | xmorph | right? :) |
| 08:14.55 | BlaXpirit | who knows |
| 08:15.02 | xmorph | BlaXpirit: viber systray icon worked good only on KDE4 |
| 08:15.24 | xmorph | in xfce there is a problem that sometimes show icons, sometimes not... |
| 08:15.42 | xmorph | Viber for linux is old app...needs updating |
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| 08:40.56 | genstorm | xmorph: is it a 32-bit package? |
| 08:41.10 | xmorph | 64 |
| 08:41.12 | genstorm | kk |
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| 10:06.51 | yates | what is the name of the keyboard shortcut event to pop open the application menu? and how can i reassign it to another key? |
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| 10:08.05 | yates | (i.e., the kmenu at the bottom left of the bottom panel) |
| 10:09.11 | yates | nm, got it |
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| 10:43.41 | houz | hi, does anyone know where kmail/akonadi stores its passwords? i can't find it in kwallet |
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| 11:02.30 | houz | more precisely, pop3 passwords in kmail 4.14.10 |
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| 11:47.32 | e-anima | whatever kde updated....now my firefox or chrome will appear in the wrong window bar |
| 11:47.43 | e-anima | i move it to another monitor it is just not goind to the correct bar |
| 11:48.08 | e-anima | or completely in no bar sometimes too |
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| 11:50.42 | e-anima | ok deleted bars redone. now it works. |
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| 11:55.04 | jonathan_zz | is there any normal and easy way to restart KDE? Or is it always done by restarting the displaymanager? |
| 11:55.45 | jonathan_zz | I mean in my case that would be service sddm restart |
| 11:56.11 | jonathan_zz | But is there not easier nomenclature or shouldn't there be? |
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| 13:10.06 | denis_ | is there a way to manually migrate a kde4 wallet to kde+fw+plasma5 wallet? |
| 13:11.12 | denis_ | i just migrated to plasma5, but starting kwalletd(4) only gives me a "KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly" error, so auto migration does not seem to work for me |
| 13:12.57 | denis_ | oh, sorry: frameworks-5.20, plasma-5.6, gentoo linux |
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| 13:17.56 | rdieter | denis_: migration is triggered by kwalletd(5) |
| 13:19.00 | rdieter | denis_: when you say "starting kwalletd(4) ... gives", how exactly are you starting it? |
| 13:19.20 | rdieter | (afaik, you shouldn't have manually start anything, it should be fairly automatic) |
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| 13:19.50 | denis_ | rdieter: yes, but only if kwalletd(4) is running. i start it by typing kwalletd in a terminal emulator inside the plasma session |
| 13:20.17 | rdieter | ok, that's not how it's supposed to start, so unsurprising that it doesn't work |
| 13:20.30 | rdieter | so *not* unsurprising that is |
| 13:20.52 | rdieter | denis_: you can try running (kde4) kwalletmanager, to open it |
| 13:21.07 | rdieter | (or at least verify if it's open or not) |
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| 13:23.01 | denis_ | rdieter: i'm compiling kwalletmanager-15.04.3 right now to give it a try |
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| 13:25.14 | rdieter | personally, i've never been a fan of the kwallet4=>kwallet5 content migration stuff (seems to not work semi-often, which confuses users, like what you're experiencing now) |
| 13:27.25 | denis_ | rdieter: trying to launch kwalletmanager-15.04.3 gives the same error (KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly) plus some others, like "KDEInit failed to launch /usr/bin/kwalletmanager" |
| 13:28.16 | denis_ | i also got this last error when i tried to launch konsole-4 and yakuake-2.9.9 in a plasma session |
| 13:28.30 | denis_ | *plasma5 |
| 13:29.47 | rdieter | sounds like you have a bug trying to launch kde4 applications in general, I'd suggest you contact your distro |
| 13:30.51 | rdieter | this may not be specific to kwallet(4) |
| 13:31.00 | denis_ | some others like marble worked, at least. i got this error only for these two |
| 13:31.47 | denis_ | i already asked the same questions over at #gentoo, to no avail so far |
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| 13:32.53 | rdieter | are you launching from menus or command-line? (of the former, try the latter instead) |
| 13:33.27 | denis_ | from command line |
| 13:33.38 | rdieter | ok |
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| 13:43.03 | Taoki | Loving the 5.6 Plasma release! Great new features (like plasmoids) and other tweaks. Best release in a while :) |
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| 14:13.27 | houz | hi, does anyone know where kmail 4.14.10 stores its pop3 passwords? i can't find it in kwallet |
| 14:15.38 | SzykCech | Open your mind and heart - then you find them all... |
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| 14:19.33 | cb400f | houz: did you check your kde4 kwallet? |
| 14:19.47 | cb400f | since your kmail is still kde4 based |
| 14:19.48 | houz | i used kwalletmanager |
| 14:19.59 | houz | not sure what else to look at |
| 14:20.29 | cb400f | not sure how to manage kde4 wallet either :-/ |
| 14:20.40 | houz | kwalletmanager5, which sounds like it's the wrong one |
| 14:21.00 | genstorm | there should be kwalletmanager as well |
| 14:21.04 | cb400f | try 'kcmshell4 kwalletconfig' |
| 14:21.12 | genstorm | they are co-installable |
| 14:21.25 | cb400f | ah right, I actually have both kwalletmanager and kwalletmanager5 |
| 14:21.50 | houz | that would explain why i can see kdewallet.kwl in ~/.local/share/kwalletd/ and ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/ |
| 14:22.44 | cb400f | yep |
| 14:22.55 | cb400f | is still on kde4 based kontact too |
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| 14:23.08 | houz | debian only has one kwalletmanager |
| 14:24.07 | cb400f | you prolly need to install an additional package to have the manager |
| 14:24.10 | houz | does that mean once kmail gets upgraded it won't find the passwords any longer as kwallet was already upgraded a while ago? |
| 14:24.20 | cb400f | it's quite like Debian to split packages into atoms >:-) |
| 14:24.22 | houz | there is none |
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| 14:24.59 | cb400f | I haven't migrated yet, but for other stuff, kwallet5 automatically found and imported the old kde4 wallet passwords |
| 14:25.19 | houz | sure, but kmail wrote to the old kde4 wallet since then |
| 14:25.26 | genstorm | kwalletd should continue to work normally for kdepim |
| 14:25.51 | cb400f | kde4 based kmail will use kwallet4 |
| 14:26.20 | cb400f | when you upgrade kmail someday, it will use kwallet5.. and I assume your passwords will already have been imported to kwallet5 |
| 14:26.39 | houz | they aren't. that's why i came here |
| 14:26.47 | cb400f | but it's probably a good strategy to have them stored somewhere else also |
| 14:26.53 | houz | reason being that the passwords were changed long after kwallet was upgraded |
| 14:26.54 | cb400f | ah |
| 14:27.11 | houz | and updating them is the reason why i looked for them in the first place |
| 14:27.34 | houz | i already used wireshark to find them, but i don't want to do that for all my passwords |
| 14:28.46 | SzykCech | As I said: for Linux you need to have big heart with big mind and hug it regulary... Windoze don't need them at all... |
| 14:29.29 | houz | so there is no way to access the wallet used by kmail short of compiling an old version of kwalletmanager? :-( |
| 14:29.58 | genstorm | houz: you could reveal it to debian devs that they might want to provide it to you |
| 14:30.16 | cb400f | seems unlikely it isn't there.. isn't it part of kdelibs4? |
| 14:30.24 | genstorm | cb400f: it's a separate package |
| 14:31.32 | cb400f | sure, but them not having built it at all... that would be crazy... seems it's a part of kde applications though, but why wouldn't the build the whole thing |
| 14:31.42 | houz | # apt-file search kwallet | grep manager | grep bin |
| 14:31.42 | houz | kwalletmanager: /usr/bin/kwalletmanager5 |
| 14:31.49 | genstorm | cb400f: Gentoo keeps 15.04.3 in tree because that's the last kde4-based release |
| 14:32.00 | genstorm | (of kwalletmanager) |
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| 14:32.51 | cb400f | ok, that's the version I have too.. so maybe the opensuse guys also went out of their way to provide that |
| 14:33.14 | houz | there is also no kdelibs4, just 5 |
| 14:33.16 | cb400f | but normally if you had applications >= 15.08 you would also have kde5 based kmail |
| 14:33.28 | genstorm | cb400f: only if distro decided to package it |
| 14:33.41 | genstorm | e.g. Gentoo doesn't have kdepim:5 in tree |
| 14:33.46 | houz | kdepim is held back in debian for a long time |
| 14:33.59 | cb400f | houz: without kdelibs4 you couldn't run kde4 based kmail or kwalletd etc. |
| 14:34.20 | cb400f | whatever debian calls the package I wouldn't know.. but you definitely have kde4 libs |
| 14:34.38 | houz | porbably, yes |
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| 14:35.01 | genstorm | if there is a package called kdelibs, it is kdelibs4 |
| 14:35.47 | houz | kdelibs-bin is installed, but it doesn't contain kwalletmanager |
| 14:35.56 | genstorm | yes, because it's separate |
| 14:36.47 | cb400f | kwalletmanager is part of the kde applications release and not kde libs/frameworks as I mistakenly said earlier |
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| 14:37.29 | cb400f | but if debian have selected to package kde applications >= 15.08 with non-upstream kde4 based kmail, then you might have this problem |
| 14:37.34 | houz | i can only find the 15.08 kwalletmanager |
| 14:37.40 | genstorm | houz: that should be a packaging bug in debian |
| 14:38.47 | cb400f | 15.08 contained a tech-preview of kmail5. So debian probably (like opensuse and gentoo apparently) elected to stay with kde4 based kmail... but it would seem they just neglected to keep kde4 kwalletmanager around |
| 14:39.26 | houz | it seems i am not the only one: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=809964 |
| 14:39.52 | genstorm | cb400f: needless to say, there are still other kde4-based applications that use kwalletd, so as long as those are around, they should provide the kwalletmanager gui to be able to access it |
| 14:40.17 | cb400f | yep, kopete too for example |
| 14:40.22 | houz | thanks for your help, i'll add these infos to that bug report and keep ym fingers crossed |
| 14:40.55 | genstorm | houz: 15.04 was the one that enabled it to be co-installed with kf5-based kwalletmanager, aside of icon file collisions |
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| 15:11.28 | apb1963 | KDE Platform Version 4.14.2 |
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| 15:33.12 | sysop2 | hi, how do I force tablet mode so I can get the on-screen keyboard. |
| 15:33.43 | sysop2 | I am mainly want to be able to unlock my screen with an on screen keyboard. |
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| 15:34.17 | sysop2 | I can use onboard or one of the other ones, but cant get around unlocking my screen unless I do something hackey. |
| 15:34.32 | SzykCech | Are you sure KDE supports tablets??? |
| 15:35.02 | sysop2 | yes, on kde.org you guys are talking about tablet support. |
| 15:36.47 | sysop2 | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254563 |
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| 16:56.07 | _0xbadcode | can anyone tell me how can I get the same kde look in kde-plasma as backtrack? |
| 16:56.09 | _0xbadcode | I love it |
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| 17:39.43 | feep | hi |
| 17:39.43 | DANtheBEASTman | feep: hi |
| 17:40.02 | feep | I'm upgrading from kde4 to kde5, and I don't wanna close all my programs; how do I restart the kde session without logging out? |
| 17:40.14 | feep | also brb fooding :D |
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| 17:44.15 | Fuchs | feep: I highly discourage it, as kded and the likes need to come up. Technically you can replace single components such as kwin and plasma, but I really really really wouldn't recommend it |
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| 17:48.06 | pdobrogost_home | Hi all! |
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| 17:49.02 | pdobrogost_home | Is there a way to scale down icons in systray? |
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| 18:10.23 | feep | Fuchs: I mean yeah, but I can kill and restart kded, right? |
| 18:10.49 | Fuchs | I wouldn't |
| 18:11.37 | feep | I mean worst case it'll fail horribly and I'll just log out and back in |
| 18:11.41 | feep | I can't really _lose_ here. |
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| 18:19.09 | apb1963 | ubuntu 14.04 with KDE/plasma desktop; For the last several days or so after I go to bed and my screen blanks, in the morning the screen is black and I can't "wake" it up. The power light on the monitor pulses a bit and in fact, I can't even turn the monitor off! Something is locking up the hardware. The only way out is a 3 finger salute. Any ideas how I can fix this? |
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| 19:12.00 | novare | Anyone here experienced with SDDM? Using it on Antergos right now with KDE Plasma 5.6, trying to change the wallpaper during login to the one I'm using on my desktop; the wallpaper of the password-input-mask-thing has changed, but once the KDE-logo comes up and loads the desktop, the default breeze wallpaper is showing. I set the wallpaper using the system settings, but apparently this didn't apply the wallpaper to the |
| 19:12.02 | novare | loading screen |
| 19:14.53 | Fuchs | novare: there are two separate places to set it, one of them is definitely for sddm (the login screen) |
| 19:16.42 | novare | Fuchs: which ones? |
| 19:17.21 | Fuchs | well, the one where you also configure autostart and the likes is for the login screen |
| 19:17.49 | Fuchs | novare: kcmshell5 kcm_sddm should give you the right one |
| 19:18.15 | Fuchs | the one right after login is kcmshell5 kcm_splashscreen |
| 19:24.02 | novare | Ah, that makes sense - and how can I change the background of the splash screen? |
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| 19:39.35 | Fuchs | novare: in the latter, sort of, |
| 19:39.46 | Fuchs | you can choose a different theme there, create one with your favourite wallpaper |
| 19:39.53 | Fuchs | (just copy an existing one and modify it) |
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| 19:40.33 | Fuchs | novare: it's probably in /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/ |
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| 19:47.14 | novare | Fuchs: okay, gonna try this out, thanks! |
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| 19:48.35 | Fuchs | you're welcome |
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| 21:22.23 | Zaister | I started to get an error when I tzry to login to Plasma 5.6: "kstartupconfig5 does not exist or fails. The error code is !." any ideas? |
| 21:25.38 | Zaister | ah seems to be a ggc/glic version thing |
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| 21:32.52 | thiago | do you have kstartupconfig5? |
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| 21:36.32 | Zaister | yes |
| 21:36.53 | Zaister | but i have ABI issues, i can't even compile plasma-workspace |
| 21:37.08 | Zaister | pobably since I downgraded gcc and glibc recently |
| 21:41.02 | Zaister | hm getting these errors when compiling: |
| 21:41.14 | Zaister | cmake: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.9.3/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.9' not found (required by cmake) |
| 21:41.14 | Zaister | cmake: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.9.3/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by cmake) |
| 21:50.43 | thiago | Zaister: if you downgrade, rebuild everything |
| 21:50.47 | thiago | and I mean *everything* |
| 21:50.52 | Zaister | yeah i guess |
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| 23:20.19 | braderhart | I can't get power management to work correctly in Kubuntu. Should I just file a bug or can someone help me gather the necessary logs? |
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