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00:43.59t-askNot I found a very nice commandline, which seems to make GW2 runnning very very well
00:44.09t-askMaybe someone can help. I tried for months to get Guild Wars 2 running well with Linux. I experienced lags in WvW games
00:44.15t-askNot I found a very nice commandline, which seems to make GW2 runnning very very well
00:44.45t-askbut it seems liek it switches off the KDE panel
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02:06.03PinchiukasIs it me or does KDE just suck donkey balls on multiple screens?
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02:12.41deezwaxI was on kritA
02:13.08deezwaxKrita's website and it directed me to this irc
02:13.28deezwaxAnyone hea
02:13.51deezwaxHere a part of krita development?
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02:16.19deezwaxI got a surfacebook and krita's interface doesn't scale. I could change windows 10's resolution, but then everything else running would be too big.
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02:19.42krytendeezwax: I wonder where exactly you got that, but it's #krita anyway.
02:20.27deezwaxI was wondering about that, thanks.
02:20.37krytenSure.
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02:21.59PinchiukasDon't you people constantly get issues where the "start" menu appears in the wrong screen? Or after exiting a fullscreen application the screens are reset to "duplicate"? Or after a restart you have to reconfigure screen mode, layout and resolution?
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02:33.19PinchiukasNow, the menus only open every other time. I mean, wtf? It's not like I've done some crazy customizations or anything...
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09:07.12titouhey
09:07.38hateballho
09:07.39hateballlet's go!
09:07.54titouI'm using plasma5 and I don't find how can I enable blur effect
09:08.02titouit seems this effect has disappeared from the desktop effects?
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09:22.50GuiTorishello, what is the official way to upgrade a plasmoid? Remove it reboot the computer and reinstall it?!
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09:35.18leszekGuiToris: thats a way it should work I guess. I don't know if there is an official way
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09:51.45GuiTorisok thanks leszek :)
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10:31.23cdiddI have no tearing in gnome shell, and tearfest in plasma with nvidia blob, no matter what options I select... :(
10:32.00hateballcdidd: what chipset?
10:32.44cdiddgk110
10:32.58hateballcdidd: I use this https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/5/618456760271192326/ to get global vsync, disable plasma vsync
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10:33.20hateballcdidd: so that's 700 series yea? should work with the above
10:33.26hateballit should work from 5xx and up
10:33.28cdiddyes it's 700 series
10:33.43hateballI have a 770GTX myself, just not in this machine so I was unsure :D
10:33.45cdiddbut as far as I understand this option will force games to 60 fps
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10:34.00cdiddI have 780
10:34.23hateballhmmmm, I havent really thought about the FPS all that much
10:34.29cdiddI shouldn't select driver options if other compositors work just fine
10:34.44cdiddIt's not about fps, it's about input lag
10:34.45hateballI know that the steam overlay thing reports 60+ FPS for some games
10:34.52hateballoh well
10:34.56cdiddgames with vsync are input lagging
10:35.31hateballWell I cant say I have noticed anything that bothers me. At any rate, it's just a suggestion. It fixed tearing for me, do as you please :)
10:36.03cdiddI remember with release of ubuntu 14.04 unity stopped tearing on nvidia blob, and it happend because unity used some frame flip sync stuff in new xorg.
10:36.17cdiddIt seems kwin still doesn't use this stuff unity and gnome-shell use
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10:53.49BobbejaantjeWhat's the config file that controls what icon theme dolphin is using/
10:54.02BobbejaantjeI tried changing the name in kdeglobals but that isn't doing much
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10:59.56rdieterBobbejaantje: kdeglobals is the one, but *which* kdeglobals?  ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals or ~/.config/kdeglobals ?
11:00.39rdieterif you're using a recent kf5-based dolphin version, you want the latter
11:02.22Bobbejaantjerdieter, no, this is dolphin4
11:02.25BobbejaantjeAnd indeed the former.
11:02.50BobbejaantjeqMaybe the theme name is wrong then
11:02.59Bobbejaantjerdieter, do you know a way to query what themes the system recognizes?
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11:06.46xen424Hi folks, is this the right place for questions & answers respectively feature requests?
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11:08.35xen424Why is there no Google Drive plugin for Dolphin?
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11:12.15hateballBecause no one has written one I guess
11:13.11rdieterBobbejaantje: ls /usr/share/icons
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11:13.48rdieterBobbejaantje: rather, under there, examine Name= key for each <theme_dir>/index.theme
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11:22.56xen424hateball: Don't you say :P But I wonder if it's for a reason like licencing or something like this ...
11:25.48hateballnah I dont think so, after all there is grive since google doesnt provide their own drive client
11:26.34hateballSo a dolphin plugin for google drive could be tacked onto grive rather than be written from scratch I guess
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11:31.18t-askhi, it seems my sddm freezes or it doesn't start the plasma dektop after autologin. The screen schws the loading bar when it suddenly stops ar around 80%. It shorly flashes before that, that's it. How can I investigate this? Or reset plasma and/or sddm settings?
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11:32.57t-askand it seems to restart itself after some minutes. I'm with Arch
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11:43.43Bobbejaantjerdieter_work, and can dolphin take icn themes in ~/.icons, because it's in there
11:46.42kevin123<Bobbejaantje> I just logged in to IRC, I'm curious about what your question was
11:49.14Bobbejaantjekevin123, I'm tryig to get dolphin to use an icon theme.
11:49.22BobbejaantjeBy editing kdeglobals
11:49.40BobbejaantjeI put the name inside the [Icons] section but it still seems to use the old theme
11:49.44kevin123ok, because I had some issue where I couldn't change the icons in dolphin
11:49.52t-askWhere can I find sddm configuration file?
11:50.27kevin123<Bobbejaantje> which I resolved, but I think it's unrelated to your question, I was trying to change icons for individual files/folders
11:50.42kevin123t-ask> /etc/sddm.conf I think
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11:52.30kevin123<Bobbejaantje> the issue was dolphin was not creating ~/.local/share/mime/ and ~/.local/share/mime/packages/ once I made those folders, I was able to change the icons
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11:54.04BobbejaantjeWel I have both folders so I guess that's not t here
11:54.09t-askkevin123: thx
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11:54.50kevin123Bobbejaantje> yeah I figured it was a different issue, have you checked ~/.xsession-errors?
11:54.58t-askIt looks like sddm is running fine. When I login plasma freezes.
11:55.15kevin123t-ask> have you checked your logs?
11:56.05t-askand it changes the graphics settings. Seems to switch to one display with virtual desktop resolution
11:57.06t-askkevin123: no, because I'm not sure where to look for those relevant logs.
11:57.30BobbejaantjeWell, I'll just insall systemsettings I guess and I'll do it through there
11:57.43kevin123<t-ask> ok, check in journalctl first, then maybe /etc/xorg.log
11:57.59t-askWhat does plasma do after login? Maybe it is reading the wrong X11/Nvidia display settings?
11:58.41t-askkevin123: is it still sddm.service after login? I can see the loading bar running up to 80% eg
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12:00.19kevin123it's used for login, then it stays open but you don't see it until you logout again
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12:01.18kevin123I think the loading bar thing is part of sddm
12:04.00t-askwell, the last journal entry is like "Greeter Stopped"
12:04.13t-asknothing special afaik
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12:07.05kevin123wish I could help you more, I'm not much of an expert
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12:08.20t-askI guess, after sddm stops the following process (kwin?!) stops and gets the wrong virtual resolution settings. I already deleted the nvidia-settings.conf
12:08.58t-askand I checked the /etc/X11/ folder for something special, nothing I can see so far
12:10.20t-askit would be nice if someone could tell me, which is the next process its logs I could check then
12:10.44kevin123you checked the /etc/xorg.log ?
12:13.08t-askI thnk I find something in jornl -xn ... COREDUMP of drkonqi
12:14.32t-asklooks like drkonqi is crashing. Well, maybe I just reinstall plasma meta package
12:18.10t-askI can also find an coredump for kglobalaccel5
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12:18.57SickSo like... I somehow managed to screw up my taskbar.... how can you reset your task bar to the default settings?  Debian Testing.
12:19.12Sickthe Taskbar stuff isn't intuitive on how to move things around.  :(
12:20.38SickI have UI bits strewn all over my screen LOL:  Window list by itself...  app icons off by themeslves... another thingy on another desktop, clock is funky and moved etc...
12:20.46t-askSick: the panel crashes sometimes. I just "plasmashell&" then
12:21.37kevin123Sick> you can make a new default taskbar, you click the floating button thing and there's an option
12:22.15t-askoh is that the one 80% transparent icon to the upper left?
12:22.21kevin123yeah
12:22.37kevin123works also if you click the button on the far right of the taskbar
12:23.09Sickhmmm  Ok   I guess I make a new and then remove all the other parts?
12:23.50kevin123have you tried what t-ask wrote first? might work
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12:29.22Sick:(*
12:29.34Sickit's all screwed up.  Is there any way I can nuke some config files?
12:29.59kevin123all of them are in ~/.config AFAIK
12:30.13kevin123which one relates to that, I have no idea :(
12:30.34t-askSick: what's the problem? just the missing panel?
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12:30.45t-askSick: or is it also gone after reboot?
12:30.58SickI just want to nuke panel prefs and use default.  heh.
12:31.36SickLuckily, I have Konsole bound to a key...  I managed to remmove my app icons somewhere.  (the menu thingy)
12:31.46SickI guess I'm the first person to have this issue.
12:32.06t-askI have no X currently, but did you check the panel settings dialog and pressed the reset button... I barely remember there is one
12:32.07hateballI think panel settings might be in plasmarc
12:32.14SickI've used KDE since KFM 0.0.1
12:33.04kevin123looks like it's ~/.config/plasmashellrc
12:33.18kevin123I changed the taskbar height and it changed that file
12:33.51t-asksometimes it is good to have ectkeeper .)
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12:34.49t-asketckeeper* :) I hope, I got it fixed with reinstalling plasma + nvidia driver .. now lets reboot .)
12:35.26Sickis there a way to restart plasma after I've nuked ~/.config/plasmashellrc ?
12:35.42hateballkquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell
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12:38.39Sickdidn't restore panel settings :(  (I've nuked ~/.config/plasmashellrc  and then did the  kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell
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12:40.56hateballwell then possibly you need to restart the entire session
12:40.58t-ask... not I don't .)
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12:52.17t-askok, enlighenment is running well. I assume something with plasma's settings are screwed up here. How do I reset evervything?
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13:03.00rindolft-ask: can you try in a new UNix user account?
13:04.09t-askrindolf: I can.
13:04.25rindolft-ask: then please do.
13:04.57t-askok
13:05.22Sickhttp://i.imgur.com/m96tiYO.jpg
13:05.28Sick:/
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13:06.36BluesKajHiyas all
13:06.59SickHeh, it's broke
13:07.06Sickbleh
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13:07.37t-askthat works.
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13:08.44t-asknow is the question, how to reset my user's settings? ;)
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13:12.45t-askbecause with my user the display settings are strange and I wonder where it has those settings from (file)?
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13:16.28kevin123everything should be in ~/.config
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13:21.47t-askMy problem is, I don't know which folders or files are related to my user's settings. There is no comamandline to reset my settings to "factory default"?
13:22.49t-askIt may help at first to know from which file Plasma gets its desktop resolution settings
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13:24.58toskyt-ask: there are many other plasma* files under .config, as well as additional config under ~/.local; and it's better if you remove them when your Plasma session is not active
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13:29.04t-asktosky: there is no "script" or option to do this for me? I mean, I don't want to touch/delete the wrong files.
13:33.49toskymove them somewhere else, then; I don't know about scripts for this
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14:26.24r00tWearsRedHatsIs anybody aware of issues running kde with an nfs mounted homedir?  After about a two days of a session running, everything gets "stuttery"... the interface gets slow and somewhat unresponsive.  Resources are not an issue as my rig is 24 Threads of CPU (2 6core xeons w/ hyperthreading) w/ 12 GB of mem
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14:31.08kadirohello, i already visited #sddm channel ( 16 members ) many times without any answer, i was thinking sddm is a thing related to kde desktop, which make me ask here, my question is: password field is not "focused" in the login, i must click by mouse then type my password, no key from keyboard can do anything
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14:31.52r00tWearsRedHatskadiro: tab wont focus?
14:32.13kadiror00tWearsRedHats, yeah nothing i tryed all possibilities :/
14:33.00kadirowhen googling i found the same issue from 2015 https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/501
14:34.00toskysddm is the suggested login manager by Plasma, but it's not a software from the KDE community
14:35.00kadirotosky, I have xfce, can you suggess me a good wm please?
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14:35.52r00tWearsRedHatskadiro: try lightdm
14:36.50kadiror00tWearsRedHats, thanks, that was the one come with xfce but i removed it caused by no mounting from filemanager
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14:38.14r00tWearsRedHatskadiro: that is an issue of the filemanager, not the dm
14:40.06kadiroafter i installed sddm the problem was solved itself, dunno why
14:40.36e-animai have claws mail and it is always opening on the wrong monitor. kde opens the windows always on the 3rd screen. any ideas why?
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14:41.57kadirook thanks r00tWearsRedHats & tosky i will install lightdm again and remove sddm to see if the problem will happen again
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14:57.42kadiror00tWearsRedHats tosky : i installed lightdm and removed sddm, the problem now, lightdm won't start
14:58.34kadirolightdm.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
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15:06.50r00tWearsRedHatsI'd like to set XDG_CACHE_HOME KDE_HOME XDG_CONFIG_HOME and XDG_DATA_HOME to point at local storage (away from nfs).  Where is the appropriate location to set these variables?  sddm's Xsetup ?
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15:08.57r00tWearsRedHatsthough, that wouldnt be user specific
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15:15.09toskykadiro: I would ask on lightdm support channels, or the channels of your distribution
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16:13.07not_a_nicknamesimilar to disabling the compositor happens so that "Active Screen Edge Actions" do not occur while a game is running.  I double checked that the compositor is NOT set to disable while a game is running.  What can I do?
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16:16.24not_a_nicknameBoth games are running in fullscreen mode so I'm sure that has something to do with it.  Performance takes a major hit when in borderless however, so I do not consider that to be a viable "solution."  Some KDE setting is the cause of this issue, but I cannot find it.
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16:35.07genstormbernhard: kdepimlibs.git/akonadi-contact
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16:36.48bernhardgenstorm: Thank you :)
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17:10.02shtrbhi when I try to edit a wiki and login with phabricator, I get Exception encountered, of type "BadMethodCallException"  if I choose not to allow access to account data
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17:29.19cdiddWhat is the name of plasma widget with three bars for cpu ram and swap?
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17:41.26not_a_nicknameRunning Arch Linux and updated yesterday.  Major update with KDE stuff came in.  CS:GO and Dota 2 now disconnect me from whatever game I was in when I alt tab or lose focus on the game, and audio glitches happen where the last sound heard repeats endlessly in a loop as soon as you lose focus to the game.  I also noted that upon launching a game, so
17:41.26not_a_nicknamemething similar to disabling the compositor happens so that "Active Screen Edge Actions" do not occur while a game is running.  I double checked that the compositor is NOT set to disable while a game is running.  What can I do?
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17:52.58ShalokShalom@all german speakers: ;) http://funkyimg.com/i/2a6c5.png
17:53.45ChemBronsa-mode?
17:54.24ShalokShalomjo ^^
17:54.47josef64sehr gut :)
17:58.21ShalokShalomshould i report that issue or is it a feature? :P
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19:32.17cdiddmy gtx 780 is 10 degrees hotter with plasma, compared to unity. Is it a known problem?
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19:33.56genstormwhat kind of system is that? cpu temp is normal? it's probably just a sign that it's doing something rather than compared to with unity
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19:34.47cdiddIt does the same thing as unity -- compositing mostly static windows.
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21:39.50irungentooIt worked on kde 4 but on 5 one of my screens is black with the default X cursor when I move the mouse to it
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21:50.27akikxdpyinfo reports dpi at 102. where can i set this myself? (i've configured the dpi to 96 in xorg.conf.d, kubuntu 15.10)
21:51.44cdiddHi. Right now when I click on app icon in plasma, when multiple instnces of the same app are open, it shows me animation with a grid of actual windows, instead of menu. How to make it show me window list, other than disabling compositing?
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22:22.58xmorphhi, i have installed plasma5 on my gentoo and time applet showing wrong time http://i.imgur.com/hz4g7MK.png
22:23.08xmorphanyone know what is the problem ?
22:23.40clarjon1timezone?
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22:24.08xmorphEurope/Belgrade
22:24.30xmorphyou see in scrot that time app is ok, but in panel it's wrong
22:24.54xmorphand date comand displaying correct time
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22:29.29clarjon1xmorph: is there any timezone info if you mouseover the clock widget?
22:29.35clarjon1oh. hm.
22:29.41xmorphnope
22:29.48xmorphah wait
22:29.49clarjon1is it -too narrow- and just showing the "2:10" of "12:10"?
22:30.33xmorphwhen i enable to show timezone there is 'CEST'
22:30.38clarjon1aha
22:30.48clarjon1try using your mouse scrollwheel over the clock?
22:31.09xmorphnothing
22:31.49xmorphi don't know why clock widget is in +2 hours
22:31.53xmorphit's weird
22:32.05clarjon1Right click clock -> Digital Clock Settings, click on Timezones
22:32.17clarjon1check and see if the offending timezone is checked off?
22:32.18xmorphBelgrade is selected
22:33.08xmorphah!
22:33.21xmorphwhen i disable belgrade and set to UTC it's ok
22:33.39clarjon1oh, is your system clock set to local time instead of UTC by chance?
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22:34.18xmorphprobably
22:34.37clarjon1That's probably it then.
22:35.43xmorphwhtn i put it back it works
22:36.05xmorphi have disabled UTC and enabled Belgrade again and it's ok now
22:36.22clarjon1weird.
22:36.31xmorphyea :) clarjon1thanks for help
22:37.43clarjon1not quite sure how that fixed it, but glad i could help :)
22:37.52xmorph:)
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23:27.25jfmcarreiradoes the new plasma detects the best scaling for each display?
23:28.31tux|dudeI think so
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23:31.28jfmcarreiramy new laptop looks better every update of plasma :) only remote apps are a pain in the ass to read stuff :D
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23:45.53tux|dudeYeah plasma 5 looks lovely
23:56.35axc1298looking forward to 5 in another year when debian releases a new version lol
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