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00:07.19NanoSectoris there a way to inhibit the screensaver when a specific app is running?
00:07.37NanoSectoror to not lock the screen, as the screensaver is not coming up
00:07.43NanoSectoror preferably do both... :)
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00:12.15ediT!yt underworld I exhale
00:13.27ediThmm
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00:45.24k12Is there a way to change the background image of the kde panel in KDE5?
00:58.02k12Great... now I can't open kde systemsettings...
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00:59.48k12oh wait...
00:59.51k12got it open.
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01:45.22CyberBotXHi there. So, I'm running KDE 4.14.3 on FreeBSD 10.3, and some applications from my application launcher don't run, even when attempting to start them from a command line with kioclient exec on the .desktop file itself. Some of them give no information in the console as to why they are failing, others claim to have malformed .desktop files. Running the command in the .desktop file from a command
01:45.22CyberBotXline works, though.
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02:49.59obZenI just upgraded to Plasma 5.6
02:50.03obZenI lost my panel
02:50.16obZenand my widgets can't be placed along the right side of my screen
02:50.24obZenusing NVIDIA driver, gut feeling that's the problem?
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02:53.57[E]scI get this error -> plasma StatusNotifierItemSource::refreshCallback: DBusMenu disabled for this application... how can i fix it? because it's causing my plasma-desktop to keep a 50% CPU load after like 20-30 minutes of being "idle"/"on"...using plasma-desktop 4.11.13, QT: 4.8.6 on Debian Jessie
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04:08.36AndrzejLguys
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04:10.44CyberBotXSo, apparently I lied when I left just a moment ago. Everything WAS working, I was loading things from the application menu just fine, then I tried to load Wireshark from the application menu, it didn't load, I tried to kioclient exec it, says the .desktop file was malformed, and now even the ones which were loading before that are refusing to load now.
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04:12.04AndrzejLI upgraded to the plasma 5.6.0 and now I cannot see the file copying progress. I get the blue circle with number in it on the task manager's dolphin icon when file transfer is active instead of separate icon and I no longer am able to track the progress. Even if I switch notifications to track file transfers and other jobs I dont see it in notifications. Just the damn blue circle with number ...
04:12.10AndrzejL... it in...
04:15.14AndrzejLAh well. New copying is shown in notifications. Still - not what I need. Where do I get this done? And by this I mean I want to be able to see a progress of copying in a separate window the way I did in the past.
04:15.36AndrzejLand by separate window I mean dialog. With progress / speed etc.
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04:47.03bob2021hey, I had to reinstall and now akonadi won't start.  can someone help?
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04:58.36bob2021hello?
04:58.38bob2021can anyone help?
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05:39.30leer10I'm pretty sure I've discovered a memory leak while using neon
05:40.18leer10it's the plasmashell process and I'm using 5.6 and ubuntu wily
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05:42.31valorieyou might file a bugreport, leer10
05:42.36valoriebugs.kde.org
05:42.46leer10thanks valorie!
05:42.51valoriewould be good to trim those leaks down
05:43.04bob2021hey, I had to reinstall and now akonadi won't start.  can someone help?
05:46.53thiagobob2021: run akonadiconsole. What do you see?
05:48.30bob2021failed to connect to local MySQL server through socket
05:48.34bob2021unable to connect
05:49.03thiagodoes it offer a log?
05:49.05thiagodetails?
05:49.22bob2021thiago: yes, but i find the log to be not illuminating :p
05:49.35bob2021exit code: 7
05:49.35bob2021process error: "Unknown error"
05:49.45bob2021which, honestly, i just not very helpful
05:49.52thiagodo you have ~/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error ?
05:50.00bob2021that's what i was just copying from
05:51.01thiagocan you pastebin the entire file?
05:51.47bob2021sure, i'm not gonna judge someone else's masochism:  http://pastebin.com/dCD2iRQG
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05:53.37thiagomysqld exited too soon
05:53.46thiagodo you have a mysql.err file inside db_data there?
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06:03.01bob2021thiago: not that i can find, but i'm still looking
06:04.05bob2021ok found one...
06:04.41bob2021hey!
06:05.01bob2021there was an indication in the log...
06:05.05bob2021its doing *something* now
06:05.07bob2021not entirely sure what
06:05.13bob2021but it seems to involve a lot of indexing things
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06:06.52bob2021thanks thiago --- i'm pretty optimistic now
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06:15.48leer10bug report made valorie! :)
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06:26.27lumideehi, yesterday i updated arch linux from plasma 5.5 to 5.6 and now my task bar doesn't auto hide. any hints?
06:28.47excalibrHey any of you use plasma to 5.6 and also mpv app?
06:28.55excalibrplasma 5.6*
06:30.05excalibrI notice everytime mpv is launched, something weird happens to app window under mpv
06:30.31valoriethanks, leer10
06:31.23excalibrlike compositing for the app window get disabled
06:32.07excalibrshadow disappears, no rounded corner on window decoration
06:32.19excalibruntil I close mpv
06:32.26excalibrpoke valorie
06:32.41valorieI'm no plasma devel!
06:34.34lumideegot it working by creating a new _empty_ control bar (not default) and then adding things myself
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06:35.38excalibrlumidee, are you seeing the same problem on your archlinux? You said you updated to 5.6
06:36.11lumideeexcalibr, yes the issue was on arch
06:36.29lumideelet me check your issue second
06:36.51excalibrCan you point me to the link of the bug discussion
06:37.14lumideeno i dont have that issue with mpv
06:38.25excalibrah okay
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07:28.06TheRealJohnGaltexcalibr: I have the same issue with mpv on gentoo with plasma 5.6
07:28.17TheRealJohnGaltI'm using opengl-hq vo
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07:32.46TheRealJohnGaltI'm curious: What's a keyboard driven virtual desktop workspace like in kde (that someone actually uses)? e.g. keyboard shortcut to move window to virtual desktop x, switch to virtual desktop x, etc.
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09:30.21johnfluxwhat do I run to get kwin and the kicker thing back after they have crashed?
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09:32.18svuorelaplasmashell and kwin_x11
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09:37.28ZrenUse kstart kwin_x11 so you can close the terminal after
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09:51.15lordievaderGood morning.
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09:54.14sibil_Dear all, I am using KDE Plasma 5
09:54.32sibil_And in the new amarok, I am looking for the setting to save my progress?
09:55.09sibil_Oh there is an amarok channel
09:55.09sibil_Sorry1
09:55.11sibil_!
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10:04.00iron_houziI've never had spotify integration with the Media Player controls, does anybody have any ideas for how to get it working?
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11:29.34intelfxHi! What happened with Kate's Vi mode in KF5?
11:30.24intelfx(/me is trying KF5-based KDE for the first time)
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12:03.01f1u77yintelfx: what's wrong with it?
12:03.07intelfxit does not exist
12:03.18intelfxi. e. does not work
12:03.59f1u77yedit -> input modes -> vi mode does not exist?
12:04.12genstormit does here
12:04.54intelfxah
12:04.58intelfxit is in different place
12:05.00intelfxthanks
12:05.36intelfxpreviously I went into "Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editing -> Vi Input Mode" and ticked the first checkbox
12:05.57intelfxnow that checkbox apparently does something else
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12:12.46dnyi just upgraded from kde4 to plasma on my gentoo system. where do i find custom hotkeys/shortcuts? i used to be able to edit them in system settings...
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12:49.19sithlord48g morning #kde.. i have plasma 5.6 on 3 machines and on all three the panel will not hide anylonger. can any one confirm its a kde bug or my setup ?
12:50.16Fuchssithlord48: if you are talking about auto-hide: works here
12:50.44sithlord48weird it has to be my setup then.
12:51.02FuchsGentoo here with a mostly vanilla 5.6
12:51.11sithlord48arch ..
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12:52.20sithlord48i tried to toggle the option , no change.. added a new panel set it to auto hide it just stays there
12:52.43genstormsame here, works fine. but in the past I've sometimes seen the config simply reset itself back to visible
12:53.30sithlord48i have had the problem before and usually it will fix itself if i toggle the option.
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13:02.58akiki installed kde neon on top of kubuntu 15.10. it changed the grub 2 theme. how do i get the previous theme back?
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13:05.14sithlord48akik do you have the grub kcm installed that would  be the easiest way.
13:06.23akiksithlord48: i don't know what grub kcm is so maybe not
13:06.45sithlord48akik:  its a control plugin for system settings to change grub
13:06.52akikok
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13:07.42sithlord48akik:  on trusty the package is "kde-config-grub"
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13:07.54sithlord48akik:"kde-config-grub2"
13:08.23akiksithlord48: ok it's installed now
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13:10.50akiksithlord48: should it appear in system settings?
13:11.04sithlord48it should
13:11.15sithlord48i think under start up / shutdown
13:12.26sithlord48you can manually run it too "kcmshell4 kcm_grub2"
13:12.27akiksithlord48: can't find it
13:12.31akiksithlord48: ok
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13:12.55sithlord48you can select a new theme from the apperance tab
13:13.41akikOriginal configuration file /etc/default/grub.original does not exist.
13:13.52akiki pressed the defaults button
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13:15.15sithlord48akik:  wait a second.. its not grub doing your boot splash anyway its plymouth..
13:15.16akiksithlord48: all the boot entries have been changed from ubuntu to neon gnu/linux
13:15.29sithlord48that is what your kernel calls it self?
13:15.56akiksithlord48: the cyan theme is now blue
13:16.10sithlord48akik:  try using apt search plymouth-theme to see the installed themes
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13:16.44sithlord48the default theme for kubuntu iirc is plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
13:17.19akiksithlord48: http://pastebin.com/raw/96YkpSRH
13:17.24sithlord48akik:  here is a guide
13:17.25sithlord48http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-change-plymouth-themes-initial-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-10-04
13:17.46sithlord48ok yeah you have been switched to the breeze theme
13:17.57sithlord48if you have not saved the grub changes don't bother saving them
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13:25.58BluesKajHi folks
13:27.11mx204Hello.
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13:30.05akiksithlord48: i tried using update-alternatives and update-initramfs but the grub theme is still the neon one, blue screen and neon gnu/linux texts
13:30.34sithlord48akik:  your talking about the grub text for the menu or the boot splash (plymouth)
13:30.43akiksithlord48: for the menu
13:31.00sithlord48that should should be able to change in the grub kcm apperance tab
13:31.24sithlord48iirc you can select the colors for the various parts there
13:33.51leszekI have a strange bug with libtaskmanager. It is not showin a chromium icon if the chromium.desktop file has a full path in Exec or the  at the end of the Exec= line
13:34.24akiksithlord48: ok thanks. it seems to work. i just need to hunt down the original colours
13:34.44leszek\
13:34.51leszekdamn it percent U
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13:58.25akikso is plymouth everything that happens after grub 2 after you press on an boot entry?
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14:03.35sithlord48akik: yes
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14:20.37akiksithlord48: found the place the colours are coming from to grub 2: /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme
14:21.30sithlord48akik:  that config might be generated when you do grub updates so if it reverts you will know why
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14:33.34Sauerlandakik: in opensuse it is /etc/default/grub  , themes are stored in /boot/grub2/themes.
14:33.53SchrostfutzIs it possible to create plugins for dolphin that create keybindings?
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14:37.01akikSauerland: in ubuntu it's also /etc/default/grub but update-grub is giving me wrong colours, not obeying those i set in /etc/default/grub
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14:39.25CBX-AWAYSo, would anyone happen to know why KDE 4.13.3 would suddenly decide that a handful of .desktop files are malformed and refuse to run them from either the application launcher or from a command line with kioclient exec?
14:40.00Sauerlandakik: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
14:40.03RiotingPacifistclosing my lid my computer wakes itself up, but it works fine with pm-suspend, how do i tell kde to use pm-suspend instead of whatever it's using?
14:42.09RiotingPacifisti cant see any settings for what the powermanagement source is?
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15:17.01demlakhmm.. my kde hangs on login... i'm not sure, if this is since updating my arch last night.. or because of daylight saving time change the day before..
15:17.10demlakany idea how to check?
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15:19.23rdieter_workdemlak: problematic items with recent updates I'm aware of : qt-5.6.0 (patch available), xorg-x11-sever-1.18.2  (patches may be available).  did you install/update either of those recently?
15:19.49rdieter_work(you'll have to ask your distro if either of those are patched/fixed though)
15:19.54demlakhave to check versions.. i just did a large update of arch
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16:55.03demlakre
16:55.42demlakrdieter_work: this is my update of today: https://ptpb.pw/AAmhgfel0qlUQoRZooDw7ba3ztPE
16:56.01demlakas you can see... qt-5 is upgraded..
16:56.12demlaki don't know how to downgrade.. just for test
16:56.49genstormArch probably doesn't believe in downgrades ;)
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17:01.20rdieter_workdemlak: ask your distro if they included the QtDBus fix for plasma5
17:01.29rdieter_work(and/or how to downgrade)
17:01.29demlakthx
17:02.31rdieter_workkalkal: if your clipboard is non-empty, and you paste (that's what middle click does), what else would you expect it to do?
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17:14.09RiotingPacifistanybody having problems with task switching on 5.6.0 (kubuntu 15.10/neon), specifically it switches to "show desktop" after a few tabs even though it's not setup
17:14.31RiotingPacifistalternativally any ideas how i can debug that and/or make kde use pm-utils instead of systemd for suspend
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17:14.51AndrzejLJaysus where is the freakin copy progress dialog...
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17:15.59AndrzejLupgraded plasma to 5.6.0 and now instead of a progress dialog window I get some crappy blue circle on the dolphin icon in the task bar... wth?!
17:16.19demlakrdieter_work: are you talking about those patches? https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/qt5-base
17:16.30AndrzejLHow do I get the progress bar back..
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17:21.18rdieter_workdemlak: qtbug-51676.patch is the important one, yes
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17:23.12demlakok.. but... those patches are included... others say..
17:24.09rdieter_workdemlak: looks like it, so my suspicion of not having that important patch was wrong.
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18:00.38AndrzejLok - got the bloody progress bar back but a) the setting couldn't be more hidden and b) it wasnt applied till I logged out and then back in...
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18:07.14doqu`hi, i want ask if there is a software in KDE Plasma Desktop that helps me to control the privacy of the desktop and softwares... i was looking to sweeper, but it seems more a cleaner like bleachbit, and there aren't softwares' settings... many softwares needs to be configured (krunner, konqueror, klipper, konsole, etc) and i was looking something like a catch all or something like that...
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18:08.56doqu`do you have any idea?
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18:28.45mhammonshi
18:28.55mhammonshow do I fix the icons shown in the taskbar?
18:29.13mhammonsi am running intellij, and I have the intellij icon assigned to it in the programs menu
18:29.42mhammonsbut when i launch it I get a generic green icon instead, it makes it very hard to find my intellij windows
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18:45.28mhammonsanyone?
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19:11.16anonkunis amarok going to be ported to plasma5 or qt5 or whatever would be appropriate to call it...?
19:11.28anonkunthe theme still looks kde4
19:11.36genstormanonkun: it has a frameworks branch already that needs more work
19:11.52anonkunso it's not abandoned in favor of clementine right?
19:12.20anonkungood to know
19:12.20genstormanonkun: clementine is no KDE project afaik
19:12.29anonkunclementine is a fork of amarok if I remember
19:12.40anonkunbut yeah, I don't think it is a kde project
19:13.24demmanonkun: amarok kf5 does run :)  just too buggy to really use
19:14.15anonkunalso
19:14.18anonkunIf I may ask
19:14.25anonkunthere was supposed to be a kde media center right?
19:14.30anonkunwhatever happened to it :o
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19:16.21genstormanonkun: it exists
19:16.48anonkunGreat, I assume they devs are stomped with all the work lately.
19:17.40anonkunKDE project accept bitcoin?
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19:23.29hedinHey
19:26.33hedinI got a dell xps13 9350 (skylake) with 4k 13" display... I have installed centos7 with 4.5.0 kernel to get wifi running... I have also installed the default version of kde... kde-4.14.8 and it looks horrible... Do I need to find a way to upgrade to kde5 or will I encounter the same issue on kde5 ?
19:27.30genstormhedin: centos7 is probably the wrong distro to run plasma-5
19:28.58hedingenstorm: I agree, but it was the dist I had laying around when I got the laptop... when I have played around with it and figured out what DE is the best I'l replace it with gentoo
19:29.44hedingenstorm: but does kde5 handle small 4k displays or is it as bad as kde4 ?
19:29.51genstormPlasma-5 is much better
19:30.15genstorm(supposed to be, I haven't had the pleasure yet with such a display)
19:30.52hedinwas "active" introduced in kde5? I can't find it in this kde4 installation.
19:31.01hedinthe screen got touch
19:31.35genstormPlasma Active was superseded by Plasma Mobile
19:31.45hedinokay
19:32.03hedindoes it scale up to 13", from "mobile" ?
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19:32.19genstormit's not for your desktop. touch input should work, but again, no experience there
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20:11.23tcbernerHi. I have a question concerning kdepim5: As cam be seen here http://imgur.com/RMI3wIG the inbox should have quite a few mails. The messagelist stays empty though. I see the following https://paste.kde.org/pikdrd5x6 output when clicking on the folder.
20:11.31tcbernerThere are folders that work perfectly well.
20:11.37tcbernerBut some just do not load.
20:11.48genstormtcberner: tried akonadictl fsck?
20:12.09tcbernergenstorm: thanks I will give that a try
20:14.09tcbernerNope, no change.
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20:51.03shakarAm I crazy or did the latest plasma lose the ability to choose plasma icons?
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20:59.43Azazaelin kde 4 can you apply colors to specific non-kde4 applications? if so how?
21:00.09Azazaelsince I use a custom theme in firefox and thunderbird
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21:10.09imiI wonder if linux (kde specifically) support those "convertible" laptops. What I would care about in the first place: rotation, touchscreen. Do you have any experience?
21:10.13sithlord48anyone else have a problem w/ panels not hiding after upgrade to plasma 5.6 and friends?
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21:22.47jonathan_xxcan anyone tell me if it is possible to change the margins in kwrite/kate?
21:26.05jonathan_xxI mean the distance between the frame/borders and the actual text in the editing window.
21:26.32jonathan_xxthese margins are so small that I can't work in it because it annoys the hell out of me.
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21:28.00gobostonewhy is kde so terrible at having additional displays and what can I do to make it work better? every time I plug in a monitor it rips plasma widgets to all sorts of strange and random locations. sometimes backgrounds/selection work, sometimes they don't. windows end up all over. it's chaos
21:32.09sithlord48gobostone:  this is not my experance with extra monitors..i plug one it and it becomes either and new blank space (default backgound no panel) or how it was configured last time it was connected.. i have never used  intel and amd (open source) drivers only so i can't speak for others.
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21:32.29gobostonesithlord48: I'd kill for that. I've never had that experience
21:32.53sithlord48gobostone:  can i ask what distro and about your video hardware and monitors
21:33.46gobostoneI have an intel chipset, newer, arch linux, asus ux305, kde 5.19.0
21:34.19gobostoneplugging in an external monitor the same resolution as the built in display, at 1920x1080
21:34.36sithlord48intresting i have arch  intel brodwell  (5500HD) using hdmi  i plug in a lower res monitor and no problem
21:34.49sithlord48plasma 5.6 and upto date kde apps
21:36.08gobostonesithlord48: yeah, plasma 5.5.5
21:36.12sithlord48gobostone:  im guessing our stack is similar do you have alot of widgets on your workspace i have very few myself
21:36.29gobostoneI use hdmi to vga, can't imagine that makes a difference though
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21:36.55gobostoneno. just a toolbar and a few desktop widgets for monitoring pc
21:37.05sithlord48it might but it should only for purposes or setting the resolution
21:37.34sithlord48have you tried to set the monitor in system settings -> display
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21:38.52gobostonesithlord48: yeah, definitely. any time I change the primary monitor or the locations of the monitors it rips my toolbars to some random location
21:39.30gobostonethis is what my desktop looks like after I got things put back where I want them, it's not crazy overloaded:
21:39.33gobostonehttp://i.imgur.com/12dELo3.jpg
21:39.42genstormgobostone: qt-5.6 should be better, plasma-5.6 should be a little bit better, but for the problem of panels moving around displays there's only hope for until after 5.6...
21:40.02sithlord48gobostone:  i am on qt 5.6 and kde 5.6 on arch ..
21:40.31gobostonesithlord48: am I just out of date or is that the beta kde repos?
21:40.36sithlord48gobostone:  i have a problem w/ my panel no longer auto hiding since the upgrade
21:40.41sithlord48you are out of date
21:41.10gobostonegenstorm: I haven't followed development at all. sounds like this is a concern of the devs? That would make me so happy. I gave up using an external monitor for a while
21:41.26genstormit's a known issue
21:41.35gobostonesithlord48: huh. thanks for letting me know. I'll update
21:41.36sithlord48have i just been ery lucky
21:42.22genstormsithlord48: your mileage may vary depending on screen interfaces in use
21:42.26gobostonegenstorm: it's been known by everyone who uses kde for a while, I just didn't know they were adressing it :)
21:42.58gobostonegenstorm: huh. as in vga vs dvi vs hdmi?
21:43.03gobostonevs external card?
21:43.07genstormvs DP vs LVDS
21:43.08gobostoneor vs driver interface?
21:43.12sithlord48i've used kde since the 3 series and since kscreen i have had a wonderful experance with my two machines.
21:43.26gobostoneadmits he knows very little about this
21:44.03sithlord48i made new panels and tried to toggle auto hide.. no luck :(
21:44.15genstormsithlord48: absolutely no problems here
21:44.34genstormbut I've combined qt-5.5.1 with plasma-5.6 here
21:44.37sithlord48all 3 of my arch / kde machiens too
21:45.03sithlord48i have qt 5.6 and plasma 5.6
21:45.05genstormtoo early to adopt qt-5.6.0
21:45.08sithlord48it just arch taht way
21:46.12gobostonesomebody has to actually be able to report bugs on currently developed software
21:46.42gobostonearch has its problems but it has drastically increased the pool of people reporting bugs on software actually under development. using distros where you find a bug and realize that the report was filed 4 years ago sucks
21:47.04genstormgobostone: would be nice if they'd supply debug info then
21:47.27gobostonehahahahahaha. yeah. of course
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21:47.44genstormanyway, I'm with you on that, I just have the choice not to adopt a release that has known issues
21:48.13gobostoneit's not perfect. the users admittedly suck at filing the reports. but hey. it's linux. if the userbase was organized and coherent they'd have to rename it
21:48.25gobostonegenstorm: you're way too logical to be an arch user
21:49.35genstormthat's why I'm probably not
21:49.51sithlord48so is that the consensis its qt 5.6 + plasma 5.6 that makes my panel never autohide?
21:49.59genstormno
21:50.17genstormjust saying that's one difference to my working system
21:50.24sithlord48ok
21:50.37sithlord48i have 3 machines on arch w/ this issue all 5.6 / 5.6
21:50.51genstormI'd call that a strong hint
21:51.13genstormsithlord48: plasma-5.6.1 is scheduled tomorrow
21:51.16sithlord48i tried to make a new panel i have tried to toggle the setting . no luck .. problem has stuck across reboots etc..
21:51.54sithlord48well hopefully that helps.. since idk what else to try
21:51.59genstormbut it could also be one qt5 patch too few or many
21:52.56sithlord48i don't think arch does many patches from upstream
21:53.07genstormthen you have a problem with qt-5.6 anyway
21:53.17Azazaelin kde 4 can you apply colors to specific non-kde4 applications? if so how?
21:53.18Azazaelsince I use a custom theme in firefox and thunderbird
21:53.28genstormbut they'll surely apply at least those that are recommended to fix regressions
21:54.13sithlord48i would think so
21:55.13sithlord48Azazael:  not that i know of
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23:30.13CyberBotXAnyone know any reason why KDE 4.14.3 would suddenly decide that some .desktop files were malformed (as stated by kioclient exec) despite that they worked earlier and also refuses to load those entries from the application launcher?
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