IRC log for #kde on 20160210

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00:33.27MathCubesHey could anyone help me with Ktouch?
00:34.42MathCubesHow do I change the keyboard?
00:36.30MathCubes*layout for a built-incourse
00:37.45MathCubesI have made a other one but can't figure out how to use it.
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00:42.01toskyMathCubes: did you try to import it from the editor?
00:42.18MathCubesYea
00:42.30MathCubesLet me carify
00:43.05MathCubesI am learning the workman layout.
00:44.00MathCubesThe Keyboard Ktouch uses has two issures.
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00:45.34MathCubes1)   The X and D are in the wrong places.     Should be swap.
00:47.35MathCubes2)     I don't have a keyboard like a number pad.  Itsn't a sright colume keyboard.  I have a keyboard like most of them that each key is diagonal to each to other.
00:48.25toskyso let's summarize: do you want to change an existing keyboard, or change it for you only?
00:49.05MathCubesI have fix it.    But it isn't letting me used it.
00:49.40MathCubesDon't cure.
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00:50.31MathCubesI am the only one who is using this computer.
00:50.59toskyI will rephrase: do you want to have it fixed in ktouch so that anyone can get the change?
00:51.22toskybut yeah, let's go back to the problem of the layout not working
00:51.48toskydid you use the layout editor to create a new layout?
00:52.00MathCubesYea
00:53.06MathCubes"Built-in courses can be only viewed.I
00:53.12MathCubes*"
00:53.21toskyso duplicate it
00:53.34MathCubesDid
00:53.36toskycreate a new one and use an existing course as base, but use the new layout
00:53.46MathCubesDid
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00:54.34MathCubesIsn't letting me use it.
00:54.49MathCubesIsn't showing the course.
00:55.44MathCubesOr when it does it uses the detlat keyboard.
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01:01.09toskyMathCubes: it seems that the code tries to autodetect the keyboard model, so you need probably to change the layout xml installed in your system
01:02.02MathCubeshow do I do that?
01:02.14toskylocate the installed file on your system and replace it
01:02.22toskyhow did you install ktouch?
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01:03.36MathCubesWhere is it located?
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01:05.04MathCubesHow do I locate it?
01:05.11toskyhow did you install ktouch?
01:05.52MathCubesyaourt ktouch
01:06.05toskyno idea what yaourt is, it is a package manager?
01:06.07toskychecks
01:06.22toskyarch, no idea how to help then
01:06.30MathCubesYea
01:06.53toskyyou should check the content of the ktouch package, you should see a directory keyboardlayouts
01:07.02toskyon Debian, for example, it's /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktouch/keyboardlayouts
01:07.13MathCubesI would
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01:07.35MathCubesnot know what to look up.
01:07.50toskyand then export the keyboard layout from the editor, and replace the system one (but copy the existing file first)
01:07.56toskyhas to go as well
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01:09.20MathCubesI don't see it under /usr/share/kde4/apps/
01:11.29MathCubeshttp://pastebin.com/Gx7t83A4
01:13.02MathCubesIt's /usr/share/apps/ktouch/
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01:19.50MathCubes@tosky thanks it works
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02:44.29bongfrogI have been having an issue getting a bar to stay pinned on a particular monitor, idealy on the laptop monitor. Everytime I dock it seems to be a crap shoot if the bar scoots to the external or stays put on the laptop display. Even after disconnecting the external it does not return. ANY ideas?
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03:28.48bongfrogam I maybe missing the boat and each monitor shoul dbe a different activitiy?
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09:23.30lordievaderGood morning.
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09:54.38freakynlHi, I'm running plasma 5 with dolphin and can't drag files into chrome (for google drive or automatic attaching to e-mails in o365 for example). See people have commented on similar issue in v4 in bug 278236 (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278236) but hasn't been reopened
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10:07.12leszekfreakynl: yeah you are right. This needs to be reopned
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10:17.01freakynlcan I do that myself after creating an account or does someone with more permissions need to do that?
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10:25.10leszekfreakynl: someone with more permissions. I confirmed the bug again and wrote a notice in #kde-devel that someone should reopen that bug. Hopefully this is done soon :)
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11:38.29freakynlleszek: thanks :)
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11:55.31BluesKajHI folks
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13:28.19prashant_123456i am using i3 window manager and dolphin file manager but dolphin dont show progress bar when copying or moving files why ?
13:28.42prashant_123456anyone here to help me out ?
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13:30.52rdieterphilmacfly: it uses a status notifier, sounds like your i3 environment may not support that
13:31.08philmacflyprashant_123456: ^
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13:31.18rdieterphilmacfly: oh, sorry :)
13:31.38philmacflyrdieter: no worries I know that feeling first letter of the nick tab
13:32.38rdieterprashant_123456: normally, you'd see it in plasma's notification applet
13:33.12rdieter(I'm not sure what happens in non-native, ie, non-plasma environments)
13:33.45prashant_123456philmacfly: rdieter so what to do sir i am wondering from many days
13:34.40rdieterprashant_123456: good question, are you using plain i3 or i3 on top of plasma (ie, only kwin is replaced)?
13:34.59rdieterif the latter, I'd expect it to work.  otherwise, I don't know
13:35.06prashant_123456rdieter: i use gentoo and i only installed i3 plain
13:35.24rdieterprashant_123456: i3 lacks notification support then, apparently
13:35.36prashant_123456rdieter: i think i havent installed plasma
13:36.02prashant_123456rdieter: when i used pcmanfm it shows progress bar but i like dolphin more
13:36.07rdieterprashant_123456: is is what you're missing (apparently): https://developer.gnome.org/notification-spec/
13:36.13rdieterthis is... rather
13:36.19prashant_123456rdieter: i would like to use dolphin in near future
13:36.29prashant_123456rdieter: ok
13:37.10rdieteryour not seeing notifications is a bigger problem than just copy progress, imo
13:37.54rdieteri3 may support it somehow, or there may be standalone apps to help provide that for you, but at this point, it's no longer a kde issue
13:38.25prashant_123456rdieter: ok sir thanks for the clarification
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13:40.52rdieterprashant_123456: hrm, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282806  , implies it can work
13:41.22rdieterbut only if you "configure the systray notifications icon to not show 'File transfers and jobs'"
13:41.38rdieternot sure how to do that if you're not in plasma (or even if that's relevant anymore)
13:44.01prashant_123456rdieter: i think i am not using plasma is the great issue
13:44.12prashant_123456rdieter: its not kde fault
13:44.19prashant_123456rdieter: i think sir
13:44.29prashant_123456rdieter: by the way thanks for the help
13:44.41prashant_123456rdieter: i need a workaround for this one
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14:39.39Pegasus_RPGHello. I can't find instructions on how to build Skanlite looking at https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/skanlite and in the source. Does anyone know?
14:41.14Pegasus_RPG"cmake ." doesn't seem to find CMakeLists.txt
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14:41.54BlaXpiritPegasus_RPG, https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/skanlite
14:41.57Pegasus_RPGoh wait, it does but complains of Unknown CMake command "ki18n_wrap_ui".
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14:50.24GreeningGalaxyhow do you make the KDE Telepathy widget stop trying to reconnect? Sometimes I'm just offline and I'm really tired of having the icon sit there and spin for all eternity.
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14:54.54rdieterGreeningGalaxy: right click the applet => offline ?
14:55.12GreeningGalaxythat has no apparent effect; it keeps spinning.
14:55.47rdieterI'm guessing the previous connection attempt may have to timeout or fail, it may not get interrupted
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14:56.34GreeningGalaxyhow long does that take? a version or two ago, I had it keep spinning for over an hour.
14:56.48rdieterI'd expect it to only take a few minutes
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14:57.40GreeningGalaxyis there a way to configure it? If I have internet at all, it usually connects within five seconds. No need to try longer than that.
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15:01.43rdieterGreeningGalaxy: you can configure it to only connect manually (when you click on it explicitly)
15:01.53GreeningGalaxyoh, how?
15:03.32rdieterGreeningGalaxy: right click applet -> Instant messaging settings -> general -> (uncheck) restore last presence on next login
15:03.47GreeningGalaxyah, I already have that on.
15:03.54GreeningGalaxyat least I can just log out and log in again I guess
15:04.04GreeningGalaxyuh, I mean I already have it off
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15:05.06rdieterwaves, hi
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16:14.29bongfrogI have been having an issue getting a bar to stay pinned on a particular monitor, idealy on the laptop monitor. Everytime I dock it seems to be a crap shoot if the bar scoots to the external or stays put on the laptop display. Even after disconnecting the external it does not return. ANY ideas?
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16:47.12cjbHi! Konsole 15.08 and Plasma 5.15: is it possible to get split tab focus in Konsole to follow mouse?
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16:50.51BlaXpiritcjb, wow, i can't even find how to split tab
16:52.04BlaXpirityakuake is so much better than konsole
16:52.34cjbctrl-)
16:52.50cjbyakuake doesn't do tabs :) and I want a screen full o' terminals basically.
16:53.51BlaXpiritcjb, sure it does tabs, but the logic is different.  yakuake has tabs that contain multiple screens,  konsole has views that each contain the same set of tabs
16:54.37BlaXpiritcjb, and yakuake has the feature you asked for
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16:55.02BlaXpiritand konsole doesn't, from what i see
16:55.52cjbhuh, will give it a try
16:56.07cjbyeah, I want focus-follows-mouse on konsole "views"
16:57.21BlaXpiritwell,  yakuake has this in options and konsole doesn't, so ... not mch else to say
16:58.10cjbwhich option is it?
16:58.31BlaXpiritcjb, behavior > focus terminals when mouse pointer...
16:59.01cjbsorry, not seeing "behavior".  how'd I get there?
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17:01.14cjboh, it's the button that looks like it means "minimize"
17:01.15cjb\o/
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17:02.34LapdalHey is there a way to disable panel shadows without turning off compositing?  I cannot seem to find the option anywhere.
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17:05.30LapdalAlso can I display quick links to locations like my Home, Root, and Trash on my desktop without using Widgets?
17:06.20LapdalDo I have to make some goofy symlinks in my /desktop/ directory to pull this off?
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17:09.42Lapdalactually Dolphin made that rather easy, nevermind that question :)
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17:10.31LapdalWell, except I can't make the trash shortcut animate when it's full of trash
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17:35.56Safa_[A_Boy]Hello. Is there a way to type a character by using a custom shortcut? For example pressing Ctrl+Shif+L will give me the LRM chracter
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19:34.19zorteinwhen upgrading to a new version of KDE do you lose the settings and panels you had set?
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19:39.12toskyzortein: if you talk about Plasma, the migration from the kdelibs4 version and Plasma 5 requires you to reconfigure the desktop
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19:47.34zorteintosky is kdelibs4 the same as KDE Workspaces (Plasma) 4.11.13?
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19:48.37rdieterzortein: no
19:48.57rdieterzortein: well, sorry, in this context, yes actually
19:49.26rdieterKDE Workspaces 4.11.x is built on top of kdelibs4
19:49.55zorteinis there an export settings tool or something alike?
19:50.01rdieterno
19:50.39rdieterplasma5 is different enough that it's configuration cannot be mapped from plasma4
19:50.53zorteindo the apps that follow kde, like kmail need also to be reconfigured?
19:51.42rdieterzortein: depends.  is the kmail version the same or different?
19:51.54rdieterif the same, then no reconfiguration is needed
19:52.38zorteinso there is no provision for upgrades?
19:52.40rdietersome applications that were ported from kde4 to kf5 migrate settings, but most do not (in my experience)
19:53.21zorteinok thanks rdieter
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20:08.28zerodramais there a default filename for folder icons?
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20:09.05zerodramaI have the folder icons in their respective folder
20:10.16zerodramaso the .directory file points to /path/foldername/folder_icon.png
20:10.59zerodramabut then I moved the path elsewhere and now the .directory file points to the wrong place
20:11.20zerodramaI have to modify 20 or so folders to fix
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20:11.45zerodramais there a way to specify an icon in the same directory as the folder
20:12.10zerodramalike icon=./folder_icon.png?
20:14.17BlaXpiritzerodrama, well if you try that and it doesnt work, then probably no
20:14.19kinkygood evening, I'm currently using kde 5.5.4 on arch linux and I'm having an issue with associating application with file types. When I try to change the default application for image/png or image/jpeg, it resets to the current settings. Journalctl says: systemsettings5[2784]: "image/png" hasDefinitionFile: false
20:15.36zerodramacould that be considered in the future? or use .icon.EXT as a default (just drop in and go)
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20:18.51zerodramahold on
20:18.55zerodramait worked!
20:19.04zerodramaawesome
20:19.13zerodramadidn't work before
20:19.19kinkyfixed it, there were old kde4 settings in ~/.config/mimeapps.list
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20:50.24rgb-oneHow can I adjust the size of an icon on a ToolButton in QML?
20:54.01rgb-oneI have Toolbutton { id: "iconId"; iconSource: "images/icon_name.png" } thus far
20:54.05rgb-oneThe ToolButton is the child of a RowLayout whose parent is ToolBar
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21:23.23BlaXpiritso I'm running 2 different virtual machines with Arch Linux and KDE
21:23.44BlaXpiritand recently both of them started failing on me, but just the interface part
21:24.00BlaXpiritbasically instead of a KDE session I get just a black screen with a cursor
21:24.03IpsilonI am working under i3, but I like dolphin...I can't seem to change the preferred applications
21:24.08BlaXpiritand  all my applications start
21:24.14IpsilonI suspect that it may have to do with a rooted config file
21:24.14BlaXpiritbut plasma never shows up
21:24.26Ipsilonbut I don't know where those configurations are stored
21:24.36BlaXpiritalt+f2 doesn't work either
21:24.56BlaXpiritKWin seems to be present
21:25.04IpsilonIf I go on dolphin and try to change the preferred applicaiton...after I click "apply", the changes automagically turn back to the old ones
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21:36.40teprrrBlaXpirit: I'm seeing that black screen problem with my regular computer actually
21:36.53teprrrno clue what'd be causing it. runnign on nvidia's gpu here.
21:37.28teprrroh, maybe mine is a different thing.. not sure. to me that happens sometimes when I just lock the screen or suspend (which includes locking)
21:37.36teprrrunlocking the screen from console works though
21:37.45BlaXpiritteprrr, i have nvidia on one computer and intel on another
21:37.51BlaXpirityours is probably very different
21:38.03teprrrBlaXpirit: on a vm?
21:38.12BlaXpiritteprrr, well on the host
21:38.47teprrrBlaXpirit: yup. this happens to me on the host itself :P
21:38.55teprrrso yeah, a different problem most likely
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21:40.25BlaXpiritbut man this sucks
21:40.31BlaXpiritfirst everything worked well
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21:40.55BlaXpiritthen after some update  sometimes mouse clicks would stop registering, with reboot as the only solution
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21:41.05BlaXpiritthen after some update  plasma started crashing regularly
21:41.18BlaXpiritthen after some update  black screen
21:41.26BlaXpiritand i thought  kde 4 -> 5  was gonna be the worst
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21:41.46BlaXpiritoh and by the way, this happens on 2 completely different VMs
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21:53.56adisimali ko iz Bosne
21:53.58adisza razgovor
21:54.01adisbilo ko
21:54.03adisneka se javi
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23:45.17zerodramaso a bunch of packages depend on libkabc4 which breaks/conflicts with recent libkdepimlibs-data
23:45.42zerodramakde-full and kde-standard cannot be installed
23:46.03zerodramaor is this a debian issue?
23:49.40rdieterzerodrama: distro issue, yes
23:50.24rdieterIt may have something to do with migrating to the newer kf5 kdepim stack, but that's just an educated guess
23:51.01zerodramakopete and other apps cannot be installed and that includes kgpg
23:51.24zerodramaalso I am completely unable to use kwallet for anything
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