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16:33.02 | techminator | 60 secs to go |
16:33.49 | joeytwiddle | did KDE3's filepicker have the ability to search all subfolders for a string? |
16:34.13 | Sho_ | Not that I recall joeytwiddle |
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16:38.05 | techminator | ok when i start my pc, kde does not ask for username and password |
16:38.30 | techminator | neither does it give me option to choose from the varous DE's installed. |
16:38.38 | thiago | did you configure your login manager to log in a user without asking for password? |
16:38.52 | techminator | no |
16:39.04 | BluesKaj | techminator, did you enter one durin the install, if so then you probly have it set to autologin |
16:39.26 | thiago | techminator: check with your distro's channel to see if they enable autologin by default |
16:39.31 | techminator | i guess how to i remove that and also have the option to choose between different DEs? |
16:39.40 | techminator | i'm on KDE right now |
16:39.58 | thiago | in system settings, find the login manager and turn off autologin |
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16:42.21 | techminator | can't find it |
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16:43.49 | thiago | what login manager are you using? kdm or sddm? Or something else? |
16:43.59 | techminator | KDE |
16:44.25 | BluesKaj | techminator, which ubuntu version ? |
16:44.28 | techminator | i'm in system settings but not sure where to go from there |
16:44.32 | techminator | Linux Mint |
16:44.48 | BlaXpirit | that's one broken distro alright |
16:45.05 | BlaXpirit | what's worst is there is a ton of horrible advice around the internet |
16:45.15 | techminator | who said BlaXpirit? |
16:46.01 | Two_Dogs | BlaXpirit: the default install setting is autologin on mint |
16:46.10 | techminator | linux mint is not broken. the DEs are confusing to use for beginners. |
16:46.28 | techminator | there you are Two_Dogs |
16:46.35 | BlaXpirit | Two_Dogs, wow really? |
16:46.44 | Two_Dogs | BlaXpirit: yeah :) |
16:46.48 | BlaXpirit | ah and of course there is no login manager setting |
16:46.53 | BlaXpirit | because linux mint ships its own trash |
16:46.59 | BlaXpirit | it's neither KDM nor SDDM |
16:47.04 | techminator | for cinnamon, it was asking for login info but for KDE it auto logings |
16:47.06 | Two_Dogs | BlaXpirit: mdm |
16:47.48 | Two_Dogs | techminator: give me a sec, i'll find the login kcm on kde |
16:47.55 | techminator | looks like i'm in deep shit with no way to change login and also to change DEs. |
16:48.07 | techminator | thanks Two_Dogs |
16:48.51 | Two_Dogs | techminator: actually if you log out and choose something else to log into then its the default |
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16:52.54 | joeytwiddle | Sho_ yeah must have been my imagination ;) Still that would be one way to stick it to those Gnome nerds! |
16:53.07 | Sho_ | heh |
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17:07.48 | eagle | hi, using kmail, is there a way to get a tray icon in window managers like i3wm? |
17:08.30 | eagle | qt5 kmail |
17:08.34 | leszek | eagle: tray icon for what ? |
17:08.43 | eagle | of / for kmail |
17:09.01 | eagle | i3wm has the old xembed try icon |
17:09.15 | leszek | yeah but I never heard of kmail having a tray icon |
17:09.23 | eagle | it is optional in the settings |
17:09.32 | leszek | and setting that does not work ? |
17:09.40 | eagle | of course with SNI tray |
17:09.44 | eagle | in plasma 5 |
17:10.01 | eagle | but not with an wm that does not support the new SNI try |
17:10.05 | eagle | +a |
17:10.09 | leszek | I don't know if it has support for xembed |
17:10.14 | eagle | it does not |
17:10.22 | eagle | so my question is, if there is a method to get one |
17:10.51 | eagle | as it is with SNI tray of kde and libappindicator.. |
17:10.56 | eagle | just the other way around |
17:11.04 | leszek | eagle: technically it doesn't make sense. So no I don't think anybody invented a sni to xembed support |
17:11.10 | eagle | ofc it makes sense |
17:11.15 | eagle | wtf |
17:11.28 | leszek | xembed is deprecated |
17:11.39 | eagle | it obviously is not |
17:11.43 | eagle | just with kde it is |
17:11.51 | leszek | there are dozens of reasons it is technically speaking a chaos |
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17:12.01 | eagle | that is irrelevant to my question |
17:12.08 | leszek | all modern desktop environments dropped support for it. |
17:12.23 | eagle | well leave me alone. |
17:12.26 | rdieter | leszek: (some) modern desktop's would like to at least |
17:12.51 | rdieter | plasma-5.5 is bringing the support back, fwiw |
17:12.57 | eagle | rdieter: thanks |
17:13.12 | leszek | rdieter: yeah you are right. Also I saw how gnome 3 integrated the support which looks horrible |
17:14.18 | thiago | xembed tray icons are deprecated |
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17:14.22 | leszek | eagle: the problem is no developer who develops a new thing like kmail 5 will implement xembed anymore. |
17:15.15 | leszek | eagle: and I didn't mean to offense here. Its just a explaination that there is nothing that you asked for |
17:15.33 | eagle | what?! |
17:15.58 | eagle | that was aiming at potential kmail users that know a way to gget the tray icon in a non plasma environment |
17:16.00 | leszek | eagle: I just answered your question and gave a reason |
17:16.04 | eagle | thta's what I asked for |
17:16.20 | thiago | get a dock that supports SNI and then it will work |
17:16.25 | thiago | SNI has existed for at leat 4 years |
17:16.34 | eagle | it is a kde/unity thing |
17:16.39 | thiago | and gnome |
17:16.49 | thiago | that counts as 99%+ of Unix desktops |
17:16.53 | eagle | and the way any other DE/WM is showing tray icons is not deprecated |
17:16.54 | thiago | therefore, de facto standard |
17:17.01 | thiago | it is, by consensus |
17:17.17 | thiago | the problems with xembed have been known for 5 years or more. A solution was developed and deployed. |
17:17.23 | eagle | where did you get the 99% from? |
17:17.27 | eagle | by own vague guess? |
17:17.32 | thiago | 73% of statistics are made up |
17:17.35 | thiago | yes |
17:17.38 | leszek | eagle: I am not sure but if you only want it to run in the tray instead of having it minimized in a taskbar there might be some apps that are available to put every app into the tray (using xembed). Though I am not sure if you want that as I don't know what the SNI Kmail thingy does |
17:17.47 | thiago | but do you think any other DE/WM has more than 1% market share? |
17:18.05 | thiago | maybe xfce |
17:18.06 | eagle | I don't know, but I don't pretend to know... |
17:18.19 | thiago | well, I do, it's called an "educated guess" |
17:18.37 | leszek | eagle: the reason for sni is also to be future proof. In that case preparation for wayland. Xembed is no more in wayland |
17:18.38 | thiago | the overwhelming majority of desktops people use have supported SNI for years |
17:18.38 | eagle | you do know that you guess |
17:18.44 | eagle | still it is not knowledge |
17:19.04 | thiago | granted |
17:19.16 | thiago | but facts are: xembed is deprecated by common consensus of the leading desktop developers |
17:19.24 | thiago | SNI is the only solution now |
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17:19.47 | thiago | if your DE/WM of choice does not support it, please file a feature request and so that they address it sometime in 2012, when it was relevant |
17:21.09 | eagle | thanks for giving an answer |
17:21.58 | Sho_ | eagle: you could wrap kmail in ksystraycmd |
17:22.15 | Sho_ | you won't get mail count, but you will get an icon |
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18:02.30 | jedix | when I undock my laptop, my screen goes black and never comes back.. |
18:02.45 | jedix | what's the file that saves the screen setup? |
18:02.50 | jedix | in kde5 |
18:02.54 | jedix | .apps something? |
18:03.21 | jedix | .config something.. |
18:03.31 | LeeJunFan | Is ~/.config/kwinrc what you're looking for? |
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18:04.47 | jedix | I don't think so.. |
18:04.55 | jedix | the one that saves the screen id and stuff |
18:05.06 | jedix | I've deleted it before and it came back okay.. |
18:05.08 | jedix | autogenerated |
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18:07.20 | teprrr | ~/.local/share/kscreen/ I think |
18:10.46 | jedix | that was it |
18:10.47 | jedix | thanks |
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18:44.51 | shadeslayer | that slave needs to die |
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19:01.15 | techminator | hi |
19:03.52 | techminator | anyone here? |
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19:39.45 | techminator | anyone uses RedShifanyone here? |
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19:42.43 | teprrr | redshift? yes, I do |
19:42.56 | techminator | does it auto start ? |
19:43.36 | teprrr | I have created a startup script, and added it to kde's autostart items |
19:43.41 | teprrr | I don't use the gui of it |
19:44.09 | techminator | i have it as auto start in KDE but does not auto start. |
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19:45.16 | teprrr | are you launching it by a script? |
19:45.24 | teprrr | if so, does the script have an executable flag set? |
19:45.30 | techminator | not sure about that |
19:46.32 | teprrr | hmhm, actually I have here also a redshift-gtk from a .desktop file.. |
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19:47.11 | teprrr | but I have a simple script which launches redshift with proper parameters, it has +x and it is working just fine |
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19:47.46 | teprrr | looks like you can enable and disable .desktop-file based items through the gui, which isn't possible for the scripts |
19:47.47 | techminator | how do i get that script? |
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19:52.25 | timorL | In KDE 'Application Launcher' I am looking for the "Software Installer" application. If I travel through all the cascading panes in the Launcher it is just not there :-( I have looked four times. But if I just start to type "Sof ..." the application shows up at the top of the results. Ok, another broken surprise. But if I RightClick on that result the option to "Add to Panel" is NOT there. Only "Add to Favorites". |
19:52.49 | timorL | "Add to Panel" is only an Option for the APplications you arrive at theorugh the cascading panes. |
19:53.02 | timorL | How do I just add this app/icon to the Panel? |
19:54.24 | teprrr | techminator: so you don't see in autostart settings anything from redshift? I think it's possible to add the .desktop file there though... |
19:54.37 | teprrr | the script I have here is a custom one |
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19:54.52 | Zsiraf | Hello! |
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19:55.02 | techminator | i see redshift in autostart but it does not auto start teprrr |
19:55.28 | teprrr | techminator: is it activated? |
19:55.36 | techminator | yes |
19:55.37 | Zsiraf | Dolphin 15.08.3 missing "Rename with Krename" menu from Actions |
19:55.45 | nightfuri | what is the name of the box thing on plasma desktop which can store the desktop icons ? |
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19:55.57 | teprrr | techminator: hmh, that's weird |
19:56.00 | LapJup_ | hi |
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19:56.12 | Zsiraf | does anybody idea, how I can put that back? |
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19:56.26 | techminator | let me add the script |
19:56.30 | techminator | which you have |
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19:58.10 | teprrr | it's just a textfile |
19:58.48 | teprrr | which has nothing else than: /usr/bin/redshift -l MY:LOCATION |
19:58.58 | teprrr | where my:location is of course the coordinates |
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20:28.18 | nightfuri | how to add icons the desktop without the folder views ? |
20:28.55 | nightfuri | i mean how to add icons to the desktop without the folder views in plasma5 ?* |
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20:30.21 | BlaXpirit | but why |
20:31.00 | teprrr | you can drag icons from the menu to the desktop at least |
20:31.12 | teprrr | assuming the widgets are not locked |
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20:36.40 | nightfuri | BlaXpirit, i am new to kde. :) so how do traditional kde users have their desktop set ? |
20:37.01 | BlaXpirit | well traditional kde users never change any settings |
20:37.25 | BlaXpirit | at least that was my impression of how plasma 5 features are just dropped and only i notice |
20:37.39 | nightfuri | ahah |
20:37.44 | teprrr | I have nothing on the desktop at least :P |
20:37.49 | nightfuri | teprrr, that worked :) |
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20:37.55 | teprrr | the panel is also default, I think |
20:37.57 | BlaXpirit | nightfuri, anyway, I don't use desktop icons because what's the point? I never see the desktop |
20:38.09 | BlaXpirit | why would I want to have to minimize my windows to see the damn icons? |
20:38.24 | BlaXpirit | just keep everything on the panel and in the menu with convenient search |
20:38.34 | teprrr | that's my problem too, but different people have different workflows |
20:38.45 | teprrr | maybe some people keep their icons always visible? |
20:38.58 | BlaXpirit | yes, never move any windows over some part of desktop, great idea |
20:39.11 | teprrr | or use a hide windows bujtton |
20:39.35 | BlaXpirit | well i have that too, for whatever reason |
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20:41.05 | nightfuri | i see |
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20:41.28 | BlaXpirit | so you might be interested in ksuperkey |
20:41.54 | BlaXpirit | press the start/meta/whatever button, then type some search term and you're done |
20:43.14 | nightfuri | BlaXpirit, how to get that ? only alt+f1 gives me the menu |
20:43.39 | BlaXpirit | nightfuri, ksuperkey is an application that basically presses alt+f1 when you press start/meta/whatever button |
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20:52.38 | eigart | hi ! |
20:53.13 | eigart | where does kwin stores it's rules and positioning informations for each application ? |
20:53.55 | eigart | like when you put an application in fullscreen and closes it, it will keep it's position next time |
20:54.02 | teprrr | eigart: ~/.config/kwinrulesrc |
20:54.17 | teprrr | oh, that's different then |
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20:54.31 | teprrr | that's stored in the applications' rc files |
20:54.57 | teprrr | under MainWindow section most of the times |
20:54.59 | eigart | because there an old bug, that has not been solved yet (sadly) and some applications opens in the middle of the screen :( |
20:55.12 | eigart | yep, that's what I'm looking for |
20:55.25 | teprrr | https://paste.kde.org/ppswpmcwb/htagsa |
20:55.46 | teprrr | from my kwriterc for example. can't now remember if some of the info is stored in the state or not |
20:56.15 | teprrr | it could be only for the toolbar, menubar etc. |
20:56.24 | eigart | teprrr: thanks : |
20:56.29 | teprrr | not a problem |
20:56.46 | eigart | I have to remove that file evrytime I drag a windows on the left or right border of the screen |
20:57.08 | eigart | because event if this feature is useful, it's misbehaving with kwin positioning :/ |
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20:58.16 | eigart | could we promote it as bug of the month ? :D |
21:04.09 | teprrr | hmh, I'd expect that kwin positioning overrides the ones in the config |
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21:25.47 | Umeaboy | Hi! |
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21:26.22 | Umeaboy | I just downloaded laste code from the git to build a newer kmix version for 4.14. |
21:26.36 | Umeaboy | I ran cmake, but it's not working. |
21:26.42 | Umeaboy | What else do I type? |
21:26.51 | Umeaboy | I use Mageia 5. |
21:26.57 | Umeaboy | For x86_64. |
21:27.14 | Umeaboy | Kernel-version is 4.1.13-desktop-2.mga5 |
21:27.58 | Umeaboy | Should I build using fakeroot? |
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21:32.08 | teprrr | use http://paste.kde.org and paste the output there |
21:32.32 | teprrr | no one can help without specifics, "it doesn't work" is not enough :P |
21:35.52 | Umeaboy | teprrr: https://paste.kde.org/pqvs34fxe |
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21:36.18 | Umeaboy | I HAVE installed all the deps that the Mageia spec-file told me to install. |
21:36.28 | Umeaboy | So, that's covered. |
21:36.29 | teprrr | Umeaboy: oh, you are doing it wrong :) |
21:36.32 | teprrr | mkdir build |
21:36.34 | teprrr | cd build |
21:36.36 | teprrr | cmake ../ |
21:36.41 | teprrr | is the correct way to do it normally |
21:36.47 | Umeaboy | OK. |
21:36.51 | Umeaboy | Thanks. |
21:37.00 | teprrr | like the usage info there says, you are missing the source directory :P |
21:37.03 | Umeaboy | No -p on mkdir build? |
21:37.13 | teprrr | but you usually create a separate for it, so that you keep your source dir clean |
21:37.33 | teprrr | no need, when you are creating just a directory |
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21:39.05 | Umeaboy | Do I need to care about the CMake warnings in the end? |
21:44.39 | teprrr | depends probably on a warning |
21:44.44 | teprrr | maybe, maybe not |
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22:03.11 | Umeaboy | teprrr: Isn't there a command to make a tarball from the build result? |
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22:38.34 | techminator | where is the network icon in Linux mint? |
22:39.13 | qwerty_ | techminator, what do you mean by 'icon'? |
22:39.35 | techminator | in notification area, there is no network icon |
22:40.26 | qwerty_ | techminator, check if NetworkManager is running |
22:40.47 | techminator | how do i do that? |
22:40.59 | techminator | i know i'm connected to the internet as i'm chatting here |
22:41.11 | qwerty_ | how did you connect? |
22:41.26 | techminator | automatically |
22:41.30 | techminator | wireless |
22:41.52 | qwerty_ | automatically how? |
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22:42.10 | techminator | it' just connected |
22:43.45 | qwerty_ | techminator, de? |
22:44.04 | techminator | de? means? |
22:44.22 | qwerty_ | desktop environment |
22:44.28 | techminator | KDE |
22:46.32 | qwerty_ | check if NetworkManager is running, if it does, you better ask on mint channels |
22:46.57 | techminator | how to check that? |
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22:49.18 | qwerty_ | well, you should know this better than me |
22:49.42 | techminator | i'm new to linux |
22:49.46 | qwerty_ | You should do it in your ussual way to check if some service is running |
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22:50.23 | qwerty_ | I don't use mint or ubuntu, I don't know how to do that |
22:50.36 | techminator | but u use KDE |
22:51.21 | qwerty_ | that's not related to de |
22:51.34 | qwerty_ | that should be "service NetworkManager status" |
22:51.41 | qwerty_ | i googled that :) |
22:52.21 | qwerty_ | or "service network-manager status" |
22:53.04 | ravior | Can you move the folder's order in KMail? |
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23:00.08 | nightfuri | how to launch the application dashboard launcher in plasma ? |
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23:06.34 | ShalokShalom_ | hi there :) |
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23:11.23 | ShalokShalom_ | can anybody here spend me an objective advice about writing pure QML apps ? |
23:11.28 | ShalokShalom_ | with and for KDE |
23:11.56 | ShalokShalom_ | my aim is to learn and develop so quick and easy as possible :) |
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23:36.32 | ravior | nightfuri: You first need to unlock your desktop, right-click your start menu and select 'Alternatives'. From there select the dashboard. |
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23:38.02 | nightfuri | ravior, thanks :) |
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