IRC log for #kde on 20151113

00:00.17rdietermystica555_: chrome on kde4 doesn't work very well either (for me)
00:00.35rdieterthere's an open chromium bug on the topic
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00:01.09rdietermystica555_: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=424111
00:01.42rdieterchrome does screwy things with the address bar
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01:17.11crdpinkgwenview always enumerates my disks upon startup and hangs due to one that is very slow to spool up. can I get it to not do that?
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04:17.31silv3r_m00nhi there, suddenly a problem, when i login to plasma desktop the windows dont have any title bar, no background wallpaper and no bottom panel visible
04:17.33silv3r_m00nhow to fix this ?
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06:18.04chrisb22-silv3r_m00n: ping
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06:25.34ZsirafHello!
06:26.29chrisb2244Hi! (although guessing you're not silv3r_m00n?)
06:26.53ZsirafNoop
06:27.09ZsirafCan somebody say for me, which akonadi agent is necessary anyway?
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07:37.28eaglehi, I am running kmail 5.0.3 on arch linux: the kmail systray icon for new unread messages is invisible, has anyone the same problem or a clue how to fix this?
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08:42.29renn0xtk9Folks, when i launche kde programm from command line, I get a lot of message in form :
08:42.31renn0xtk909:39:50.612  filetree/katefiletreemodel.cpp:911 : END!
08:42.32renn0xtk909:39:50.612  filetree/katefiletreemodel.cpp:784 : END!
08:43.03renn0xtk9any idea how to deactivate it? (It appeared since I one activate an option but can't remember how to reset it )
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09:25.44t-askI get this error when ending KDE applications https://pastee.org/zy52 any ideas?
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09:55.14gsprIf I lock my screen and leave it locked for a long time, the unlock interface is unresponsive. I can move the mouse, but none of the buttons or text fields respond. Also, the clock isn't updating. The system is working fine, and I can kill Plasma and restart it. I would report a bug, but I am not sure which component is responsible.
09:55.18gsprAny ideas?
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12:17.31userkdeHi , how can install this patch ? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124272/
12:17.53userkdehttps://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=commit&h=80bdf99d7b9cc90afc2b32f086ca151cc7829fe6
12:18.08userkde?
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12:24.55t-askI'm missing my wacom in input settings. It is working, but I can't configure it
12:25.26t-askany idea why my Wacom isn't listed?
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12:25.46t-askunder Joystick I can choose it
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12:27.12t-askor is it just not working with qt5?
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12:37.56kaddihi? is there a (known) bug for konversation that will make it disconnect with the following message:
12:37.58kaddi[13:29] [Info] Network is down, will reconnect automatically when it is back up.
12:38.25kaddibecause I'm getting disconnected every 5-20min and quassel remains connected. So i'm thinking it's not my wifi
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12:39.39userkdeHi , how can install this patch ? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124272/
12:40.18userkdemy distro : Kubuntu 15.10
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12:42.33kaddiok, it happened again
12:42.35kaddinow on quassel
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12:50.14kaddiand there i go again
12:50.41genstormt-ask: you probably need package wacomtablet
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12:51.33genstormbut kf5-based. there is only a beta right now
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12:53.09t-askI'm on Arch and I think the gnome wacom panel is working. That wacomtablet package you mentioned is then related to qt5?
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12:53.40t-askI would like to change the buttons on the tablet
12:54.41genstormas I said, kf5 based
12:54.51genstormthat usually implies qt5 ;)
12:55.19genstormand qt4 wacomtablet was likely providing that functionality in the past for you
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12:56.41t-askoh looks like there is a package aur/kcm-wacomtablet-frameworks-git
12:56.47genstormsounds good
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13:06.52EsdouzewaHi, using Plasma 5.3. I have a problem wiht KSnapshot. Or perhaps, a bug/issue
13:07.08EsdouzewaI noticed that if I take a snapshot of a very large image (for example the entire desktop),
13:07.16Esdouzewait takes much time for the "Send To..." button to load
13:07.33Esdouzewaso I'm guessing it's preparing a copy of the screenshot for each entry
13:08.00EsdouzewaSince for some reasons I have many entries there, I'm wondering if that list can be edited
13:08.09Esdouzewasince I don't need most of them anyway.
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14:29.56t-askWere can I turn off the Meta+LMB click shortcut for window movement?
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14:50.13Kelsarcan i force kde apps to use the old sysbar (xembed) interface?
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14:56.29rdieter_workKelsar: interface... for what?
14:56.42rdieter_worksystray icons?
14:56.54rdieter_workIf so, no, but why would you want to?
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15:00.43Kelsarrdieter_work: because other wm doesn't support it
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15:01.19Kelsaras i understand the apps should fallback to xembed, from different tips
15:01.44rdieter_workKelsar: what wm in this case?
15:02.27rdieter_workKelsar: yes, they should
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15:06.30Kelsari try to follow this "Fixing Systray" and similar advices: http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/KDE_and_awesome
15:06.56KelsarBut atleast klipper then only outputs no icon set (or similar must test again)
15:08.37Kelsaryes, it is no icon set
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15:10.46Kelsarhmm looks like this http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2015-06/msg01734.html
15:12.28KelsarI see, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-35658 , qt 5.5.1 does not fix this :(
15:13.57Kelsaris there a standoalone app which provides the "new" api?
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15:47.50wiebelOn my kde5 most desired global shorcuts (eg. Ctrl+^ for yakuake) aren't working at all. Others have no problem like Ctrl+F1. Maybe only printables?! Is there any known issue? (Running Debian sid, KDE 5.4.2-1)
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16:01.45archetechwiebel:   What doc did you use to install kde on deb sid?
16:04.12wiebeldoc?? I made a upgrade which broke my kde4 (loved it) and unlike last time kde5 tried to break kde4
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16:05.20wiebel... this time I wasn't able to bring it back, but as debian came up with a plasma-systray-legacy I was fine after some purging and reinstallation of kde5
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16:11.09wiebelarchetech, that sounded a bit negative I think I will like it, such a change is just time consuming.
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16:13.03wiebelAlso I find the "drawer" windows popping up from the panel really slow. Have to find a way to reduce the eye-candy.
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16:14.01archetechwhat instructions did you use
16:14.10wiebelnone at all
16:14.24wiebelI just installed it apt-get install kde-full
16:14.27archetechthere ya go
16:14.30wiebel?
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16:16.45wiebelhow could me not beeing able to use all shortcuts be related to me not having used some instructions? A friend using kde5 on a brand new fedora has the same issue.
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16:17.11wiebelarchetech, what instructions would you suggest?
16:17.44archetechnot sure Im still trying to find some for sid
16:18.06archetechI am doing it fresh not over top of 4
16:18.41archetecharch linux wiki is possibly helpful
16:18.50archetechfor 4 > 5
16:19.17wiebelshure that was included. I needed to purge all of it before I got it running, it was painfull but now I do have a full running kde5
16:19.34wiebeljust some minor issues
16:19.54wiebelI even deleted my ~/.kde *duck*
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16:25.14JohnA35Anyone who's interested in getting KDE Keyboard Shortcuts working again please sign add, add voice & vote at: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-48795 .  The problem's known for a long time already, but getting somebody @ Qt to do anything about it has been really hard.  More eyes on it can't hurt!  Appreciate whatever you can do.
16:25.28JohnA35er, "sign in"
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16:32.12wiebelJohnA35, sounds very good, alas my main issue is related to an Alt combination. also Alt+ESC works Alt+^ doesn't
16:33.40JohnA35wiebel From everything I'm reading, tho since I'm, not a developer & I can't yet manage to get "the developers" that "do this" involved to discuss it, it sounds like the related stuff in Qt is broken, they know it, and don't care to fix it.  Maybe your issue is related, dunno.  At the very least getting somebody working on something related is probably healthy.
16:34.20JohnA35So just adding voices & interest may hopefully get some attention.
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16:35.59wiebelJohnA35, I'll look into it thx
16:36.53JohnA35wiebel: Part of the problem with all the reports out there is that every one of us users seems to file a report about our particular key-combination that doesn't work.  When the problem looks like it's common and at a lower lever.  Obviously KDE devs have pushed this over to Qt now.
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16:48.45kartapuxHi everyone
16:50.21kartapuxIs there a way to make advanced (google) search using baloo ? Like "exact expression" or required + terms
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17:09.49robotdevil1anyone have a link to guide on - navigating kde without a mouse
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17:14.28robotdevil1for example how do I select things in the system tray?  without a mouse
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18:28.28swtch_I'm having an issue with dolphin.  It seems to freeze often when I'm in an SMB share.  Especially if I write something.
18:28.32swtch_Any ideas?
18:28.39swtch_Nautilus works without issue.
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18:41.02Kilian]Hi, iam using Kde Plasma 5.4 and having trouble reseting mimtypes. Its user specific, because with root there the default config is used. I already loged out of the session and removed .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list within $HOME. But after deletion of the specific entry of the mimetypes, it appears again directly as default. Where could be the other location mimetypes are read from?
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18:49.48rdieter_workKilian]: look for ~/.config/mimeapps.list too
18:52.10Kilian]rdieter_work: thanks, that's it!
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19:04.46swtch_any ideas on the issue with dolphin Kilian]?
19:06.59swedalaswtch_: I have same problem with SMB shares when watch videos, after first video dolphin freeze.
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19:23.45swtch_swedala: Hmm, maybe an issue with plasma5 or something.
19:24.35swtch_swedala: If you're having the issue too maybe that's a good sign.. meaning it will be fixed with a future update at least.
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19:39.43AlienCathello KDE guys
19:39.57AlienCatI have issue with KDE 5
19:40.11AlienCatsddm wont start up at boot
19:40.34AlienCatI guess I could do an ugly bash script to solve it
19:40.39rdieterAlienCat: strictly speaking sddm isn't kde5
19:40.56rdieterAlienCat: and, who would a script fix it?
19:41.01AlienCatwell it does not works anyways
19:41.02rdietersorry, how?
19:41.30AlienCatI would do some kind of autologin as root and then just run sddm
19:41.42AlienCatthat would work
19:41.46rdieterdoes it?
19:41.56rdieterI'd assume that would fail too
19:41.56AlienCathave not tries yet
19:42.11AlienCatif I start sddm manually it works
19:42.23AlienCatby systemctl start sddk
19:42.24rdieterAlienCat: what distro?
19:42.31AlienCatdebian stretch
19:42.46AlienCatbut I cannot run sddm enable sddm
19:42.56AlienCatsystemclt
19:43.00rdieterwhat happens when you do that?
19:43.04rdietergives some error?
19:43.11rdieteryou may need: systemctl enable sddm --force
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19:45.27AlienCathttp://pastebin.com/V5aUei6z
19:48.42AlienCatso yeah the service unit is messed up
19:48.56rdieterAlienCat: tell your distro
19:50.12AlienCatLinux version 4.2.0-1-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.9.3 (Debian 4.9.3-5) ) #1 SMP Debian 4.2.5-1 (2015-10-27)
19:50.15AlienCatI think
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19:50.19rdieterAlienCat: my sddm.service includes:  [Install] Alias=display-manager.service
19:50.24AlienCatDebian Stretch
19:50.36rdieterAlienCat: by "tell your distro" , I mean, report the problem to them
19:51.06AlienCatohh
19:51.08rdieterthe sddm.service file they use is apparently broken
19:51.08AlienCatxD
19:51.25AlienCatwhere can I find it?
19:51.56rdieterAlienCat: for comparison, my /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service  contains:  http://paste.fedoraproject.org/290331/44744423
19:52.25rdieterI think I have sddm-0.13.0 installed
19:54.06rdieterAlienCat: and latest pristine upstream copy, https://github.com/sddm/sddm/blob/master/services/sddm.service.in
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19:55.50AlienCatokay I will have to find it some how it is at a different place
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19:57.05rdieterAlienCat: have I mentioned you should ask your distro?
19:57.25rdieterbets there is a #debian channel
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20:09.20AlienCatsorry, I will ask there
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20:16.08aluchkohas anyone seen a case where a konsole gets really unresponsive?  the load on the machine is fine, I have several other konsoles open and they're all fine, but for some reason this konsole and all of its tabs are really unresponsive
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20:18.11aluchkohah, detaching a tab from that konsole fixes it
20:19.09aluchkoif I could reattach tabs I could fix everything that way :)
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21:51.17josiDoes a redish icon on an addressbook in kaddressbok icon mean that something's wrong? because there definitly is something wrong with that folder for me ;)
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21:59.28josianyway. seems that kaddressbook seem to refuse to grab my carddav data. I got 5.0.2, and I can't seem to find any error messages and I'm not sure where to look. the caldav calendars work fine though.
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22:02.59Gamayunjosi: Yeah, probably both the icon and the text should be read if the resource is not available
22:04.48josiwell it's wierd. I can add contacts and they appear on the server. however I can't see any contact tha already is on the server
22:05.08GamayunHave you added the carddav recently? It's taken a long time for mine to synchronise when first setting it up.
22:06.10josiwell synchronising works too. I deleted the test contact on the server and kaddressbook correctly had it removed too.
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22:07.05GamayunAh, that's strange. Maybe the wrong folder?
22:07.39josiwell it appeared with all my other contacts on the server
22:08.52josimaybe wiping akonadi again will help.
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22:42.56cryptofascisthey, how do you start plasma mobile on fedora?
22:43.04cryptofascistI see there's a KDM service, but it's not the mobile
22:43.11cryptofascistbasically, I need an on-screen keyboard
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22:48.57josiafter deleting everything find "akonadi*" kmail korganizer kaddressbook. the issue is still that  I can add and remove contacts, but I can't see those contacts that are already on the server. I guess it's time to search the bug tracker
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