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| 00:09.03 | austin6598 | how do i enable wobbly windows in plasma 5? |
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| 00:30.34 | strayPuppy | OnkelTem: System Setting > Application and System Notifications > Manage Notifications > Applications > KDE Workspace > Beep |
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| 01:05.14 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.4 and KDE Applications 15.08 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 01:18.07 | ezakimak | how do you eliminate konqueror's download progress dialog? |
| 01:18.33 | ezakimak | and no, "file transfers and jobs" option in the notifications settings does not do it |
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| 01:33.46 | Markus_KMi | Is Konqueror even maintained any longer? |
| 01:41.56 | ezakimak | afaik it is |
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| 01:55.49 | Jucato | as long as it's included in releases, it's maintained, which at the very least means getting bug fixes and making sure things don't break. that doesn't necessarily mean it gets new features though |
| 01:56.12 | Jucato | (and for konqueror, most of the issues revolve around khmtl/kjs anyway) |
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| 02:25.16 | strayPuppy | still loves konqueror |
| 02:25.50 | strayPuppy | I hope it don't go anywhere anytime soon. |
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| 03:14.53 | Markus_KMi | I'm not aware of any active development but I could just as well be totally wrong |
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| 03:45.39 | excalibr | People is there workaround to get currency convertion work in krunner |
| 03:46.46 | excalibr | Ive manually downloaded the exchange rate xml and placed it as currency.xml in .kde/share/apps/libkunitconversion |
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| 04:03.21 | ezakimak | i just want to disable the "feature" that every time it downloads a page it opens another dialog window w/a progress bar |
| 04:03.37 | ezakimak | it just *sinks* X when restoring a window that has lots of tabs |
| 04:03.48 | ezakimak | cause each tab opens one dialog window |
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| 04:16.52 | excalibr | download a page? |
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| 04:34.22 | zoldyck | in Telepathy Jabber account is there any way to access transports (register, unregister, log in, log out), browse service discovery, sort contacts by account? |
| 04:34.30 | zoldyck | I'm a Plasma 5 user |
| 04:35.34 | zoldyck | does Google account use native Hangouts API or XMPP? |
| 04:39.20 | ezakimak | afaik no one uses google native hangouts API yet. there's a python project on gh somewhere that attempts to reverse engineer it, dunno what clients can use it though |
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| 04:40.13 | zoldyck | when I created it, it displayed it login web page and I had to allow KDE's application in Google |
| 04:40.24 | zoldyck | so I thought maybe it's native |
| 04:40.44 | zoldyck | but in settings I see server talk.google.com and port 5223 so it was confusing |
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| 04:41.33 | zoldyck | my thought was that Telepathy communicates with KDE's web application which lives in Google |
| 04:42.21 | o11c | How do I debug what's causing systemsettings to instantly disable my extra monitor when I try to enable it? |
| 04:42.31 | o11c | If I enable it with xrandr it works just fine. |
| 04:43.28 | o11c | systemsettings 5.3.2 |
| 04:48.09 | ezakimak | i dunno. i'm fighting with the current broken kscreen power management--it will not let my monitor sleep |
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| 05:27.01 | diyfupeco | How can I fix that message? Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.kde.kwin.Scripting was not provided by any .service files |
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| 05:28.44 | o11c | welp, I managed to crash kwin I think |
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| 05:54.25 | excalibr | ezakimak, xset q? |
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| 06:22.58 | diyfupeco | I wrote a kwin script to hide all but the active window, if someone is interested: https://github.com/x421/kwin-hide-others |
| 06:23.35 | mgraesslin | diyfupeco: suggestion: call it minimize, because that's what it does |
| 06:26.19 | diyfupeco | mgraesslin: Yeah, you are right. :) |
| 06:26.56 | mgraesslin | diyfupeco: otherwise nice functionality - I'm always happy to see how people use the scripting functionality |
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| 06:27.47 | diyfupeco | mgraesslin: Coming from OS X it was one thing I missed working with KDE. |
| 06:27.57 | diyfupeco | I will put it on kde-look later |
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| 06:32.25 | strayPuppy | wouldn't be much use if you got more than one screen :) |
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| 06:36.22 | aiena | I have a problem where window dialogs width goes off screen so I cannot press apply etc buttons |
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| 06:36.32 | aiena | in KDE |
| 06:36.40 | aiena | 4.x |
| 06:36.48 | aiena | how do I troubleshoot this ? |
| 06:36.52 | mgraesslin | aiena: you can always move the windows with Alt+left mouse click |
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| 06:37.35 | diyfupeco | strayPuppy: I am sure you can alter it to only use the active screen. |
| 06:37.56 | aiena | mgraesslin I cannot because window height is already maximum |
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| 06:38.17 | mgraesslin | aiena: you can, alt+lmb is always possible |
| 06:39.02 | aiena | hmm wait I think it may be an app prblem then (: too many controls I wish I could shrin the size of controls |
| 06:39.33 | aiena | can I move the whole window to clip the top to press bottom buttons |
| 06:41.17 | mgraesslin | aiena: yes that's what alt+lmb is about |
| 06:41.41 | mgraesslin | we call that the "unrestricted move" compared to the restricted move which ensures the titlebar is always visible |
| 06:41.55 | aiena | oops was lefty pressed alt+rmb |
| 06:41.58 | aiena | (: silly me |
| 06:41.59 | aiena | thanks |
| 06:43.29 | aiena | *am lefty rather |
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| 06:47.27 | aiena | thanks mgraesslin |
| 06:47.35 | mgraesslin | you're welcome |
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| 07:47.11 | fps | hi, since my home dir ran full one time, sometimes kde applications like konsole crash after opening a link like |
| 07:47.28 | fps | https://morph.is/v0.8/dpush-whitepaper.odt |
| 07:47.47 | fps | now i'm running gnome-terminal 'cause this time it seems i cannot open konsole at all anymore |
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| 07:48.13 | fps | the crash made konsole lock up completely and i had to use xkill |
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| 07:48.42 | fps | oh, after killall konsole it opens again.. but this behaviour is reoccuring |
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| 07:51.48 | Psy-Q | hey, on debian unstable plasma 5 is a bit usable now |
| 07:51.58 | Psy-Q | they got most of the system settings now |
| 07:52.10 | Psy-Q | sddm was broken yesterday but seems fixed today |
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| 09:23.26 | jcelerier | hello :) |
| 09:23.39 | jcelerier | I see in KConfig in KF65 that there are KStandardShortcut classes |
| 09:24.00 | jcelerier | by any chance, would there be a facility in the frameworks to allow handling of config of application shortcuts cleanly ? |
| 09:24.05 | jcelerier | KF5* |
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| 09:32.40 | o11c | Psy-Q: that was what I thought, and then I crashed kwin/plasma twice |
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| 09:37.54 | Psy-Q | o11c: yeah, kwin is still crashy |
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| 09:38.13 | Psy-Q | at least it doesn't crash directly after login anymore for me |
| 09:44.58 | Psy-Q | oh crazy, linux mint 17.2 KDE still has kde 4 |
| 09:45.06 | Psy-Q | that's why the mint users over there in that other room don't have these issues :D |
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| 09:51.42 | Nirjhor | what is the best alternate of du meter in kde? |
| 09:53.10 | kfunk | Nirjhor: try ksysguard |
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| 09:55.41 | Nirjhor | kfunk: trying out now |
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| 10:53.54 | dot8 | the last update brings me kde5, so I can not see anything in dolphin or kate, cause the gui is white. So I read I have no color scheme for kde5. other aplications works fine |
| 10:53.58 | dot8 | how can get back my color scheme for kde5 obsidian coast |
| 10:55.36 | dot8 | kcmshell5 colors |
| 10:55.37 | dot8 | tells me, that the module is not installed |
| 10:57.10 | dot8 | i need help |
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| 10:57.51 | tosky | dot8: I don't have Plasma 5 here so I can't check, but the color module can be accessed from systemsettings5 |
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| 10:59.57 | dot8 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:00.25 | tosky | dot8: whatever it is - which is the version of systemsettings that you see from the Help menu? |
| 11:00.57 | dot8 | tosky: Version 4.11.22 |
| 11:01.14 | tosky | dot8: so what you see are the color options for kdelibs4 applications |
| 11:01.24 | tosky | dot8: are you sure you use plasma 5? |
| 11:01.46 | tosky | dot8: the kcm_colors should be part of plasma-desktop |
| 11:02.16 | dot8 | tosky: how can I check if I use plasma 5 |
| 11:03.31 | tosky | dot8: well, you should have noticed a big change in the aspect |
| 11:03.50 | tosky | dot8: anyway, which distribution? |
| 11:03.59 | dot8 | Plattform-Version 4.14.11 |
| 11:04.05 | dot8 | manjaro |
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| 11:04.46 | tosky | dot8: where did you get that? |
| 11:05.46 | dot8 | tosky: from the official manjaro site. years ago. I update the system weekly |
| 11:06.15 | tosky | dot8: then check the version of the packages (I have no idea how it works with manjaro), and the version of plasma-desktop package |
| 11:06.24 | dot8 | ok |
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| 11:07.42 | dot8 | tosky: plasma-desktop 5.4.0-1 is not installed |
| 11:08.02 | tosky | dot8: so you don't have plasma 5 |
| 11:08.18 | dot8 | ok |
| 11:08.21 | tosky | dot8: but you have some applications based on Frameworks 5; which is fine, they are unrelated |
| 11:08.44 | tosky | dot8: but to configure colors for them, you need kcm_colors for Frameworks 5, which is part of plasma-desktop |
| 11:08.55 | tosky | (ok, you can manually edit the configuration files, but...) |
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| 11:09.35 | dot8 | tosky: ok, I try to ask the manjaro guys, why that |
| 11:10.03 | tosky | yes, this looks more a distribution problem |
| 11:11.03 | dot8 | tosky: thx! |
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| 11:28.20 | daniel_ | Hallo, I've got a problem with Kubuntu 15.04, KDE Version 5.2.2 and gpgsm. I want to test my selfsigned certificates with an ocsp responder. In the logfile of gpgsm I found "response of dirmngr: end of file" for one certificate and for the other "response of dirmngr: broken pipe". |
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| 14:28.36 | realcnbs | hey ppl |
| 14:28.59 | realcnbs | any ide why breeze-dark icone theme is using those ugly flat icons? |
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| 14:30.21 | realcnbs | this - http://i.imgur.com/PD14zTU.png vs this - http://i.imgur.com/mdqLzsN.png |
| 14:31.12 | BluesKaj | becaquse breeze is generally just ugly :-) |
| 14:31.31 | realcnbs | well, i don't agree |
| 14:32.19 | realcnbs | what i need is the usual default icons everywhere, except these one being adapted to dark themes - http://i.imgur.com/rRXIW9c.png |
| 14:32.47 | BluesKaj | i rest my case, it's a matter of personal taste |
| 14:34.31 | realcnbs | This is the default theme: http://i.imgur.com/7rPiHNq.png and this is the dark: http://i.imgur.com/g4I6DVv.png |
| 14:34.57 | realcnbs | this case is not a matter of taste, but wrong icons usage IMO |
| 14:35.02 | realcnbs | not consistent |
| 14:35.31 | tosky | realcnbs: the VDG group mostly discuss on the forum (I think there is also a mailing list now, but still) |
| 14:36.10 | realcnbs | i'd hate to use forums ) |
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| 15:03.32 | rdieter | realcnbs: that just looks like a bug (particularly the missing icon at least) |
| 15:03.59 | rdieter | I doubt flat design has anything to do with it |
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| 15:09.55 | realcnbs | yeah, that's what i meant |
| 15:10.05 | realcnbs | it is a config issue |
| 15:10.11 | realcnbs | not design of course |
| 15:10.31 | realcnbs | the missing icons fixed by rebooting |
| 15:10.44 | realcnbs | but those flat ones don't |
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| 15:13.55 | shal3r_ | i don't see icons for some apps on taskbar |
| 15:14.08 | shal3r_ | for example, PhpStorm shows on taskbar without icon |
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| 15:19.33 | realcnbs | same here, some apps us default icons.. |
| 15:19.42 | realcnbs | http://i.imgur.com/5Rx4GYy.png |
| 15:19.59 | realcnbs | though intellij works fine.. |
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| 15:20.15 | realcnbs | shal3r_: what's your distro? |
| 15:20.32 | shal3r_ | Gentoo |
| 15:20.42 | realcnbs | i see |
| 15:20.46 | shal3r_ | do you? |
| 15:20.49 | realcnbs | arch |
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| 15:21.15 | realcnbs | well, i hope we should just wait for updates/fixes ) |
| 15:21.38 | realcnbs | i can live with these bugs for now |
| 15:21.59 | shal3r_ | another problem is that all icons are dimmed |
| 15:22.53 | realcnbs | you mean this - http://i.imgur.com/rRXIW9c.png ? |
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| 15:25.43 | shal3r_ | realcnbs, exactly |
| 15:26.06 | shal3r_ | same icons in same places looked much brighter before update from Plasma 5.3 to 5.4 |
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| 15:56.49 | Kaze|reaL | hello |
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| 15:58.54 | Kaze|reaL | i'm using kubuntu 15.04 on a virtual box 5 with 3D acceleration enabled, Breeze Dark desktop theme appear white and we cant see mush |
| 15:59.28 | Kaze|reaL | i tried to change my compositor to open gl 2 or 3 but it keeps going back to xRender* |
| 16:01.03 | Kaze|reaL | I also installed virtual box guest additon x11 |
| 16:01.18 | Kaze|reaL | any idea how to get the breeze dark working ? |
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| 16:06.15 | Markus_KMi | Kaze|reaL: VirtualBox's 3D acceleration is pretty broken |
| 16:06.43 | Markus_KMi | if you want a VM, better use VMware Player. Not FOSS but gratis |
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| 16:13.19 | tosky | Markus_KMi: if you want a VM with 3D, or without? |
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| 16:18.24 | Kaze|reaL | Markus_KMi, thx i'm installing it |
| 16:19.10 | tosky | if you don't need 3D acceleration, virt-manager+libvirt+kvm is a good choice too |
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| 16:35.11 | Markus_KMi | Depends what the host OS is |
| 16:36.26 | Markus_KMi | Personally I've never got libvirt stuff to run. Something about permission errors. If the host is Windows, there is no better choice than vmware |
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| 16:36.57 | realcnbs | shal3r_: try the plasma dark icone theme, that fixes the dimmed colors |
| 16:37.07 | realcnbs | shal3r_: but breaks the other icons |
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| 16:57.20 | Kaze|reaL | Markus_KMi, i'm running the live version on VMWare Player, the breeze dark theme render the same |
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| 16:59.21 | Kaze|reaL | oh, worked for precisly 1 seconds, i could see i working |
| 16:59.29 | Kaze|reaL | will install and see |
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| 17:02.41 | Markus_KMi | Kaze|reaL: Do you use unmodified Kubuntu? Without backports PPA it runs only Plasma 5.2 |
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| 17:03.35 | Kaze|reaL | i use the 64 bit version image i found on the website |
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| 17:04.57 | roman__ | activate backport ppa for plasma 5.3.2 on kubuntu. |
| 17:05.22 | Kaze|reaL | in the settings or apt ? |
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| 17:07.32 | Kaze|reaL | ok i get it |
| 17:07.54 | alphabetadelta | I'm still using kde 4.14.3 and i upgraded a lot of things and now brightness doesn't work anymore in kde (it works otherwise). What package/module handle brightness in 4.14 so i can try to recompile it. |
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| 17:09.16 | Kaze|reaL | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-in-kubuntu-15-04 |
| 17:09.20 | Kaze|reaL | I will follow this |
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| 17:15.15 | Kaze|reaL | I thought they would the whole thing with update manager, but it seem the excluded Plasma 5.3 |
| 17:15.30 | Kaze|reaL | I thought they would upgrade the whole thing with update manager, but it seem the excluded Plasma 5.3* |
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| 17:20.27 | roman__ | yes. kubuntu is not a rolling distro |
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| 17:21.52 | estan | hi folks. anyone else had the problem (after some recent upgrade) that turning off notification sounds no longer works? |
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| 17:23.08 | estan | i've always had Notifications -> Player Settings -> [X] No audio output set in system settings, but now all of a sudden, i get sound when the delete files dialog pop up in Dolphin et.c. |
| 17:23.34 | estan | (the setting is still set to [X] No audio output, but it's not respected). |
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| 17:24.08 | estan | i've tried setting it to [X] Use the KDE sound system and then back to [X] No audio output. it's still not respected :/ |
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| 17:24.31 | N3X15 | estan, there's a lot of broken settings in 15.04 |
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| 17:24.45 | N3X15 | I've filed bugs about them months ago |
| 17:24.54 | estan | :( |
| 17:25.12 | N3X15 | KDE blames Kubuntu, Kubuntu blames KDE. |
| 17:25.28 | estan | this is on Arch Linux though. |
| 17:25.43 | N3X15 | Ah. |
| 17:25.46 | estan | it's quite annoying when i'm watching something on loud volume, and then delete some files without remembering to turn it down. scares the shit out of me. |
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| 17:26.13 | N3X15 | Well, check the bug tracker to see if it's been reported yet |
| 17:26.17 | rdieter | estan: kmix should have an event sounds volume, set it to zero |
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| 17:26.18 | estan | perhaps if i delete some rc file? |
| 17:26.26 | estan | rdieter: ah. |
| 17:26.49 | estan | wow. one click away. didn't think about that. |
| 17:27.26 | estan | will still check if a bug has been filed (because it shouldn't play anything, and it didn't use to, so must be some regression i think). |
| 17:27.32 | estan | thanks for the tip though. |
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| 17:27.49 | rdieter | estan: I thought the UI for "No audio" notifications was removed because... well, it didn't work |
| 17:28.19 | rdieter | estan: what kde/plasma version are you using ? (and where did you try setting that?) |
| 17:28.38 | estan | hm. okay. it has always worked for me. this install is very old (since i got the laptop). it's the first thing i turn off. |
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| 17:29.01 | estan | System Settings -> Notifications -> Sound System. |
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| 17:29.24 | rdieter | I assume that's kde4 then. yeah, there was some changes there recently'ish |
| 17:29.33 | estan | (or something like that, i have a slightly weird mix of languages, Swedish and English) |
| 17:30.02 | estan | yea. it's KDE4 (though i have some KF5 apps, Arch is phasing them in as they become ready i think). |
| 17:30.13 | rdieter | there was a bug too where events would maximize the volume, but that's been fixed since too |
| 17:30.30 | estan | heh. i never encountered that fortunately :) |
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| 17:32.39 | estan | i'm not quite sure at which upgrade it regressed, but it has definitely worked for me. |
| 17:33.04 | estan | but muting the events channel in kmix works for now. gotto get back to school work. |
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| 17:38.24 | jmux | Hi. I'm on Kubuntu Trusty with KDE 4.14. When I try to open an application with kde-open from the konsole, it starts in the background. |
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| 17:39.05 | jmux | Now I disable the focus steeling prevention of kwin, which results in opening txt files in the foreground, but firefox still starts in the background. |
| 17:40.23 | jmux | If I open an other http url , it moves firefox to the foreground, but just if firefox is already started. |
| 17:40.50 | jmux | Any idea how to change a setting to always open firefox in the foreground? |
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| 18:25.53 | Kaze__ | I got it working somehow |
| 18:26.13 | Kaze__ | the xRender still stay, tho, but probably its a GUI bug ? |
| 18:26.22 | Kaze__ | bcause now the breeze dark works |
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