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06:04.13 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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07:27.38 | cdidd | Hi, I haven't been using KDE for quite a few years now. Recently I began considering migration to it. I have a question though, why KHTML still not deprecated and removed? As far as I understand it's quite outdated in terms of support of the latest web technologies, and is a giant security surface, that doesn't have development resources comparable to webkit/gecko. |
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07:32.30 | vbgunz | cdidd: not sure how rooted into the system khtml is but last I heard of it was in konqueror? you should have plenty of other browsers available to you? qupzilla, firefox, chrome? sorry if I misunderstood |
07:33.55 | cdidd | vbgunz: Of course other browsers are available, but the question still stands. |
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07:49.42 | BlaXpirit | cdidd, the question is valid |
07:49.46 | BlaXpirit | and that's all i can say.. |
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07:50.39 | BlaXpirit | konqueror is all rusty anyway |
07:50.57 | BlaXpirit | i hear it lost many features doing migration to kde 4 |
07:51.09 | BlaXpirit | no idea what (will) happen to it with new kde |
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08:58.55 | AbuDhar | hey |
08:59.08 | AbuDhar | how to disable some programs to startup at boot in KDE? |
09:00.14 | AbuDhar | :D |
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10:37.03 | vitya | How can I change my kde5/plasma2 system splashscreen (default is breeze theme)? |
10:37.07 | vitya | *hello everyone ) |
10:37.24 | vitya | I've already modified sddm theme, want also to change splashscreen and screensaver |
10:37.30 | vitya | I guess it is qml too ? |
10:38.37 | vitya | is it all in /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/org.kde.breeze.desktop or I am wrong? |
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11:09.59 | Guest94 | hi, can anyone tell me what package is responsible for changing keyboard layouts in kde? |
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11:12.56 | redeyedman | Guest94: what is your distro? |
11:13.20 | Guest94 | debian |
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11:14.30 | redeyedman | package may have different name on depending specific distro |
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11:15.12 | Guest94 | latest debian, so it's jessy I think |
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11:54.53 | t-ask | Hi, I try to find all file within a qtcreator project matching a string. Ctrl+F + Advanced search doesn't find anything even if it exists. What am I doing wrong? |
11:55.54 | t-ask | and is there a better #channel to ask similar questions? |
11:59.14 | AbuDhar | t-ask: there is a qt channel afaik |
11:59.46 | t-ask | AbuDhar: ok, thanks. |
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12:13.59 | BlaXpirit | t-ask, #qt-creator |
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12:25.37 | gravgun | Hi all, since the upgrade to QT5/KDE5 of some of KDE4 software on Arch Linux, almost all icons aren't displayed anymore unless KDE_SESSION_VERSION is set to 4. Note I'm not using KDM/Kwin although I have them. Dolphin is also broken with theme colors: http://imgur.com/TBMD5JG . How can I fix all of this? |
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12:47.18 | holgersson | gravgun: Just a guess: try out running "kbuildsycoca4" and/or "kbuildsycoca5". |
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12:51.42 | gravgun | holgersson: Doesn't change anything sadly |
12:52.04 | gravgun | It seems KDE_SESSION_VERSION isn't the only env var that is required for icons to work though |
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12:53.14 | BlaXpirit | gravgun, in what apps are icons not displayed? |
12:53.28 | BlaXpirit | have you used any other kde 5 apps before and did icons in them work? |
12:54.03 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: no, ever since some apps switched to KDE5 icons doesn't work in them anymore |
12:54.13 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: that is, Konsole, Kate, now Dolphin... |
12:54.32 | BlaXpirit | gravgun, well maybe u need to install some icons? :o |
12:55.05 | BlaXpirit | breeze-icons, oxygen-icons - do you have any? |
12:55.33 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: I don't see why I'd need to since the KDE4 Oxygen icons work within a KDE/Kwin session on QT5 software |
12:55.40 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: I do have both |
12:56.04 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: but outside of a KDE session it doesn't work |
12:56.13 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: and I use XFCE usually |
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12:59.29 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: http://imgur.com/a/UyAkg |
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13:02.33 | BlaXpirit | gravgun, huh strange, "breeze dark" icon set is missing some icons in the icon selection screen |
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13:02.53 | BlaXpirit | have you been to "Icons" KDE Control Module? |
13:03.40 | gravgun | BlaXpirit: yup, and changing icon sets has no effect on the issue |
13:03.50 | BlaXpirit | gravgun, nevermind, i have no idea what i'm talking about. you're using oxygen anyway |
13:04.50 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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13:11.31 | MichaelP | does plasma 5.xx still have this layout http://i.imgur.com/qqe31nJ.jpg or was that taken out ? |
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13:13.05 | Markus_KMi | MichaelP: Not ported, yet |
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13:14.07 | MichaelP | Markus_KMi: ok was just wondering |
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13:27.10 | gravgun | Right, Dolphin and other KDE5 apps are only looking for icons in the hicolor theme when not running KDE env |
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15:41.46 | hassoon | doh |
15:42.06 | hassoon | kmail asks me about my email's password everytime i reconnect or reboot/start the pc |
15:43.45 | ShalokShalom | hassoon: kwallet is on ? |
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15:44.16 | hassoon | ShalokShalom, ah i should turn it off ? |
15:44.22 | ShalokShalom | if you dislike to enter a pass on each boot, simply activate kwallet and enter no password, just press enter when you get asked for the kwallet pass |
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16:32.00 | JyZyXEL | i don't understand how the Dolphin icon can look so similar to Konsole icon |
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16:46.38 | BlaXpirit | JyZyXEL, it is not similar |
16:47.07 | JyZyXEL | BlaXpirit: in breeze it is |
16:47.12 | BlaXpirit | no |
16:47.32 | BlaXpirit | in fact it is even less similar in breeze |
16:47.38 | JyZyXEL | ??? |
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16:48.10 | JyZyXEL | they are monochrome and look almost identical in the taskbar |
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16:52.12 | BlaXpirit | JyZyXEL, if you say these two are similar, then every pair of icons will be similar to you in breeze |
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16:53.26 | cupid-stunt | Hi all, is there a way to start Krfb with desktop sharing enabled by default? Every time I boot I got to enable it because it doesn't seem to save the state to krfbrc. Thanks. OS=Netrunner 14.1 KDE=4.14.2 |
16:53.54 | JyZyXEL | BlaXpirit: we must be talking about some different icons then |
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16:55.35 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if this is some hacked version of Breeze icons |
16:55.45 | JyZyXEL | #22x22 - Fixed size - For toolbar icons >!!!ONLY!!!< - DO_NOT_USE_ANYWHERE_ELSE - Monochrome |
16:55.52 | JyZyXEL | the index.theme has a bunch of crap like that |
16:56.17 | BlaXpirit | JyZyXEL, maybe |
16:56.34 | BlaXpirit | why dont u send a screenshot |
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16:57.36 | JyZyXEL | because opening the KSnapshot "Send To" menu takes 10 seconds so i try avoid using screenshots |
16:57.58 | JyZyXEL | ill make an exception this time |
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16:58.45 | BlaXpirit | JyZyXEL, that's a nice one. takes about 3 here |
17:01.13 | JyZyXEL | BlaXpirit: http://i.imgur.com/1biWOL8.jpg |
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17:02.06 | BlaXpirit | ok, JyZyXEL, yeah... this is not what i saw, sorry |
17:02.25 | BlaXpirit | my icons are much larger |
17:02.35 | BlaXpirit | so dolphin is blue, konsole is black |
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17:04.23 | JyZyXEL | i wish i could do something about it |
17:04.38 | JyZyXEL | its really annoying not being able to distinguish the two most important things on my desktop |
17:04.50 | JyZyXEL | i always have a million dolphins and konsoles running |
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17:05.38 | BlaXpirit | JyZyXEL, sounds like you want tabs in dolphin and tabs in yakuake |
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17:06.36 | JyZyXEL | or bigger taskbar |
17:08.38 | JyZyXEL | yeah, im just gonna use a little bigger taskbar to get the bigger icons like you have |
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19:08.27 | NeuhNeuh | Hi |
19:08.30 | NeuhNeuh | I have a question |
19:08.35 | NeuhNeuh | I use pulseaudio (I need to use it ....) |
19:08.41 | NeuhNeuh | But Kmix can only handle Pulseaudio control :( |
19:08.54 | NeuhNeuh | Its possible to force to use Alsa Master audio ? |
19:09.38 | AbuDhar | do you have pavucontrol ?:D |
19:09.46 | NeuhNeuh | Yes but NO ! |
19:09.55 | NeuhNeuh | Because VOl+/- only work on Kmix |
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19:10.15 | AbuDhar | hmm |
19:10.17 | NeuhNeuh | AbuDhar: Because I use both Pulse and Jack Audio |
19:10.25 | NeuhNeuh | (Yes Its special xD) |
19:10.42 | NeuhNeuh | And Kmix only modify Pulseaudio Jack Sink x) |
19:11.02 | NeuhNeuh | And Only volume on Pulseapp is targeted :D |
19:11.16 | NeuhNeuh | Volume on Jack App don't change |
19:11.30 | NeuhNeuh | The only way to change both Jack App and Pulse, is change Master Alsa volume |
19:12.19 | NeuhNeuh | http://download.lazyone.fr/share/screenshot/80c549b5-0ec7-49cc-8bb8-d0fd05fe50bd.png If I change this volume, its work |
19:12.34 | NeuhNeuh | And my problem, is bind kmix to this volume |
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19:14.35 | AbuDhar | I think I have the same problem. |
19:15.48 | NeuhNeuh | And on Phonon I can't setup Alsa x) |
19:15.51 | NeuhNeuh | For default card |
19:15.57 | BluesKaj | kmix vol should be the same as master in alsamixer |
19:16.28 | NeuhNeuh | BluesKaj: Ok, if I understand, for change « kmix » master, I must change alsamixer master ? |
19:16.35 | BluesKaj | yes |
19:16.44 | NeuhNeuh | Ok thank's :) |
19:17.01 | NeuhNeuh | konsole |
19:17.03 | BluesKaj | which audio chip NeuhNeuh? |
19:17.03 | NeuhNeuh | Arf fail >< |
19:17.30 | NeuhNeuh | A Intel Sound card :> |
19:17.38 | NeuhNeuh | BUt I don't remember what exactly |
19:18.06 | NeuhNeuh | Hm |
19:18.08 | NeuhNeuh | Realtek ALC269VB |
19:18.19 | NeuhNeuh | (Get in alsamixer |
19:18.27 | BluesKaj | NeuhNeuh: probly snd-hda-intel driver |
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19:19.06 | NeuhNeuh | Yes |
19:19.11 | NeuhNeuh | HDA Intel PCH |
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19:19.48 | NeuhNeuh | (I have HDA Intel HDMI too) |
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19:20.51 | NeuhNeuh | Default is on Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server) |
19:22.53 | BluesKaj | t make it card0=default open with root permissions /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, then copy and paste this line to the bottom, options snd-hda-intel index=0, and save the file |
19:23.32 | SysGhost | Just upgraded KDE to 15.08, and I love that some apps had some bugs solved (Jim Raynor voice: It's about time.), but I notice that the new Dolphin file manager doesn't use the icon theme I've set in KDE control Center. It's using KDE's default no matter what. Why is that? and can I solve it locally? |
19:24.18 | BlaXpirit | SysGhost, what kde version is your kde control center? |
19:25.27 | SysGhost | Sorry.. .supposed to be "System Settings". Version 5.3.2. KDE Frameworks 5.13.0 |
19:26.37 | NeuhNeuh | I don't have alsa-base BluesKaj :p |
19:26.43 | NeuhNeuh | 50-alsa.conf |
19:26.46 | NeuhNeuh | Oh ok |
19:26.51 | NeuhNeuh | I have nothing say :D |
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19:27.10 | SysGhost | Is there some icon cache that need to be regenerated? |
19:27.45 | BluesKaj | NeuhNeuh: ok, some OSs don't use that file |
19:28.04 | NeuhNeuh | I use OpenSUSE tumbleweed |
19:28.17 | NeuhNeuh | But I have maybe found a solution |
19:28.19 | NeuhNeuh | I try thing |
19:28.27 | BluesKaj | do you really need pulseaudio ? |
19:28.27 | SysGhost | BluesKaj: I (just now) created a new blank user, and started up KDE. There icon switching works fine. Perhaps there is something I need to reset/delete. but what? |
19:28.35 | SysGhost | BlaXpirit* |
19:28.50 | SysGhost | BluesKaj: ignore me ;) |
19:29.06 | BluesKaj | SysGhost: ok :-) |
19:29.22 | NeuhNeuh | BluesKaj: Yes |
19:29.37 | NeuhNeuh | BluesKaj: Example : Lot of app don't work when Alsa is launched with Jack |
19:29.42 | NeuhNeuh | And need pulse |
19:30.18 | NeuhNeuh | But I have found an pulse emulator x) |
19:30.32 | NeuhNeuh | apulse - PulseAudio emulation for ALSA |
19:30.49 | BlaXpirit | wat |
19:30.54 | NeuhNeuh | x) |
19:31.05 | BlaXpirit | avoiding pulseaudio is just so lame |
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19:32.21 | NeuhNeuh | So, try to test \o/ |
19:32.25 | NeuhNeuh | Because i'm a lame <3 |
19:33.15 | BluesKaj | well I have the same audio chip, but I don't use pulse because the intel driver enables internet audio directly with alsa whereas some audio chips do not ...I have a m-audio which requires pulse for the 1724 driver |
19:33.27 | SysGhost | BlaXpirit: I solved it. Seems by downloading another icon theme with help of the "Get more themes" function triggered something. It now switches icons as it should even within dolphin. |
19:33.49 | BlaXpirit | good job |
19:34.17 | JyZyXEL | hahah pulse audio emulation for alsa :D |
19:34.29 | JyZyXEL | that is so meta |
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19:34.39 | BluesKaj | BlaXpirit: I don't need an extra layer of useless digital processing rding on top of alsa which is what pulse does on my setup |
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19:49.28 | NeuhNeuh | So |
19:49.31 | NeuhNeuh | Thank's for your help :D |
19:49.34 | NeuhNeuh | http://download.lazyone.fr/share/screenshot/195766a2-800e-4296-b163-00a4ef21ea1e.png Its work ^^ |
19:49.45 | NeuhNeuh | I have try to edit .asoundrc :x |
19:50.09 | NeuhNeuh | http://paste.alacon.org/38031 If you want :) |
19:53.32 | BluesKaj | opensuse still uses asoundrc , ok |
19:53.41 | NeuhNeuh | BluesKaj: I don't know :') |
19:53.44 | NeuhNeuh | But its work xD |
19:54.01 | NeuhNeuh | I have reinstalled Pulse Audio |
19:55.03 | BluesKaj | ok , other things to do, and it's been a long day |
19:55.11 | NeuhNeuh | :) |
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21:08.37 | AriDroid | Hi :D |
21:09.09 | AriDroid | I'm back to the same problem with phonon :x |
21:09.39 | AriDroid | I can't bind kmix to « pch » master volume |
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21:11.21 | AriDroid | Hmm .. I must try DefaultCardOnStart= |
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22:46.18 | NeuhNeuh | Ahaha |
22:46.27 | NeuhNeuh | I have find a ugly solution for my problem ^^ |
22:46.34 | NeuhNeuh | First time : Kill kmix and pulse |
22:46.40 | NeuhNeuh | Second time : Launch Jack Audio |
22:46.53 | NeuhNeuh | Third time : Launch kmix (without pulse), wait 2s , and launch pulse |
22:47.32 | NeuhNeuh | Now, I Must prevent edit kmix setting file x) |
22:47.45 | NeuhNeuh | Because default cart return on « Pulse » :/ |
22:50.58 | NeuhNeuh | If you have a beter solution, i can take :) |
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23:37.04 | SysGhost | I hoped that plasma-desktop 5.3.2-3 would have solved the famous plasma crash upon logout/session end, but it seems not to be the case. What can I do to help? |
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23:40.45 | Markus_KMi | SysGhost: Install 5.4 |
23:41.38 | Markus_KMi | The release candidate is already very stable, as long as you don't use a vertical panel |
23:41.40 | Hairo | not out yet |
23:41.46 | Hairo | stable that is |
23:42.03 | SysGhost | Ah. Seems I have to compile it myself then. Arch doesn't even have that one in [Testing] repo yet. |
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23:42.19 | Markus_KMi | or you wait a few days |
23:43.04 | SysGhost | -"as long as you don't use a vertical panel".. .well that is exactly what I am doing... =S |
23:43.19 | Markus_KMi | then wait until the final release |
23:43.54 | Markus_KMi | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351479 |
23:43.55 | SysGhost | oh well... I'll do the waiting game. Have waited for quite some time so far, so a few more weeks/months shouldn't hurt =) |
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23:44.05 | Markus_KMi | days |
23:44.58 | Markus_KMi | maybe not tomorrow but surely less than a week |
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