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06:04.13lordievaderGood morning.
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07:27.38cdiddHi, I haven't been using KDE for quite a few years now. Recently I began considering migration to it. I have a question though, why KHTML still not deprecated and removed? As far as I understand it's quite outdated in terms of support of the latest web technologies, and is a giant security surface, that doesn't have development resources comparable to webkit/gecko.
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07:32.30vbgunzcdidd: not sure how rooted into the system khtml is but last I heard of it was in konqueror? you should have plenty of other browsers available to you? qupzilla, firefox, chrome? sorry if I misunderstood
07:33.55cdiddvbgunz: Of course other browsers are available, but the question still stands.
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07:49.42BlaXpiritcdidd, the question is valid
07:49.46BlaXpiritand that's all i can say..
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07:50.39BlaXpiritkonqueror is all rusty anyway
07:50.57BlaXpiriti hear it lost many features doing migration to kde 4
07:51.09BlaXpiritno idea what (will) happen to it with new kde
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08:58.55AbuDharhey
08:59.08AbuDharhow to disable some programs to startup at boot in KDE?
09:00.14AbuDhar:D
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10:37.03vityaHow can I change my kde5/plasma2 system splashscreen (default is breeze theme)?
10:37.07vitya*hello everyone )
10:37.24vityaI've already modified sddm theme, want also to change splashscreen and screensaver
10:37.30vityaI guess it is qml too ?
10:38.37vityais it all in /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/org.kde.breeze.desktop or I am wrong?
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11:09.59Guest94hi, can anyone tell me what package is responsible for changing keyboard layouts in kde?
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11:12.56redeyedmanGuest94: what is your distro?
11:13.20Guest94debian
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11:14.30redeyedmanpackage may have different name on depending specific distro
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11:15.12Guest94latest debian, so it's jessy I think
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11:54.53t-askHi, I try to find all file within a qtcreator project matching a string. Ctrl+F + Advanced search doesn't find anything even if it exists. What am I doing wrong?
11:55.54t-askand is there a better #channel to ask similar questions?
11:59.14AbuDhart-ask: there is a qt channel afaik
11:59.46t-askAbuDhar: ok, thanks.
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12:13.59BlaXpiritt-ask, #qt-creator
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12:25.37gravgunHi all, since the upgrade to QT5/KDE5 of some of KDE4 software on Arch Linux, almost all icons aren't displayed anymore unless KDE_SESSION_VERSION is set to 4. Note I'm not using KDM/Kwin although I have them. Dolphin is also broken with theme colors: http://imgur.com/TBMD5JG . How can I fix all of this?
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12:47.18holgerssongravgun: Just a guess: try out running "kbuildsycoca4" and/or "kbuildsycoca5".
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12:51.42gravgunholgersson: Doesn't change anything sadly
12:52.04gravgunIt seems KDE_SESSION_VERSION isn't the only env var that is required for icons to work though
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12:53.14BlaXpiritgravgun, in what apps are icons not displayed?
12:53.28BlaXpirithave you used any other kde 5 apps before and did icons in them work?
12:54.03gravgunBlaXpirit: no, ever since some apps switched to KDE5 icons doesn't work in them anymore
12:54.13gravgunBlaXpirit: that is, Konsole, Kate, now Dolphin...
12:54.32BlaXpiritgravgun, well maybe u need to install some icons? :o
12:55.05BlaXpiritbreeze-icons, oxygen-icons - do you have any?
12:55.33gravgunBlaXpirit: I don't see why I'd need to since the KDE4 Oxygen icons work within a KDE/Kwin session on QT5 software
12:55.40gravgunBlaXpirit: I do have both
12:56.04gravgunBlaXpirit: but outside of a KDE session it doesn't work
12:56.13gravgunBlaXpirit: and I use XFCE usually
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12:59.29gravgunBlaXpirit: http://imgur.com/a/UyAkg
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13:02.33BlaXpiritgravgun, huh strange,  "breeze dark"  icon set is missing some icons in the icon selection screen
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13:02.53BlaXpirithave you been to "Icons" KDE Control Module?
13:03.40gravgunBlaXpirit: yup, and changing icon sets has no effect on the issue
13:03.50BlaXpiritgravgun, nevermind, i have no idea what i'm talking about. you're using oxygen anyway
13:04.50BluesKajHiyas all
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13:11.31MichaelPdoes plasma 5.xx still have this layout http://i.imgur.com/qqe31nJ.jpg or was that taken out ?
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13:13.05Markus_KMiMichaelP: Not ported, yet
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13:14.07MichaelPMarkus_KMi: ok was just wondering
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13:27.10gravgunRight, Dolphin and other KDE5 apps are only looking for icons in the hicolor theme when not running KDE env
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15:43.45ShalokShalomhassoon: kwallet is on ?
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15:44.16hassoonShalokShalom, ah i should turn it off ?
15:44.22ShalokShalomif you dislike to enter a pass on each boot, simply activate kwallet and enter no password, just press enter when you get asked for the kwallet pass
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16:32.00JyZyXELi don't understand how the Dolphin icon can look so similar to Konsole icon
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16:46.38BlaXpiritJyZyXEL, it is not similar
16:47.07JyZyXELBlaXpirit: in breeze it is
16:47.12BlaXpiritno
16:47.32BlaXpiritin fact it is even less similar in breeze
16:47.38JyZyXEL???
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16:48.10JyZyXELthey are monochrome and look almost identical in the taskbar
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16:52.12BlaXpiritJyZyXEL, if you say these two are similar, then every pair of icons will be similar to you in breeze
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16:53.26cupid-stuntHi all,  is there a way to start Krfb with desktop sharing enabled by default? Every time I boot I got to enable it because it doesn't seem to save the state to krfbrc. Thanks. OS=Netrunner 14.1  KDE=4.14.2
16:53.54JyZyXELBlaXpirit: we must be talking about some different icons then
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16:55.35JyZyXELi wonder if this is some hacked version of Breeze icons
16:55.45JyZyXEL#22x22 - Fixed size - For toolbar icons >!!!ONLY!!!< - DO_NOT_USE_ANYWHERE_ELSE - Monochrome
16:55.52JyZyXELthe index.theme has a bunch of crap like that
16:56.17BlaXpiritJyZyXEL, maybe
16:56.34BlaXpiritwhy dont u send a screenshot
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16:57.36JyZyXELbecause opening the KSnapshot "Send To" menu takes 10 seconds so i try avoid using screenshots
16:57.58JyZyXELill make an exception this time
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16:58.45BlaXpiritJyZyXEL, that's a nice one. takes about 3 here
17:01.13JyZyXELBlaXpirit: http://i.imgur.com/1biWOL8.jpg
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17:02.06BlaXpiritok, JyZyXEL, yeah... this is not what i saw, sorry
17:02.25BlaXpiritmy icons are much larger
17:02.35BlaXpiritso dolphin is blue, konsole is black
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17:04.23JyZyXELi wish i could do something about it
17:04.38JyZyXELits really annoying not being able to distinguish the two most important things on my desktop
17:04.50JyZyXELi always have a million dolphins and konsoles running
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17:05.38BlaXpiritJyZyXEL, sounds like you want tabs in dolphin and tabs in yakuake
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17:06.36JyZyXELor bigger taskbar
17:08.38JyZyXELyeah, im just gonna use a little bigger taskbar to get the bigger icons like you have
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19:08.27NeuhNeuhHi
19:08.30NeuhNeuhI have a question
19:08.35NeuhNeuhI use pulseaudio (I need to use it ....)
19:08.41NeuhNeuhBut Kmix can only handle Pulseaudio control :(
19:08.54NeuhNeuhIts possible to force to use Alsa Master audio ?
19:09.38AbuDhardo you have pavucontrol ?:D
19:09.46NeuhNeuhYes but NO !
19:09.55NeuhNeuhBecause VOl+/- only work on Kmix
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19:10.15AbuDharhmm
19:10.17NeuhNeuhAbuDhar: Because I use both Pulse and Jack Audio
19:10.25NeuhNeuh(Yes Its special xD)
19:10.42NeuhNeuhAnd Kmix only modify Pulseaudio Jack Sink x)
19:11.02NeuhNeuhAnd Only volume on Pulseapp is targeted :D
19:11.16NeuhNeuhVolume on Jack App  don't change
19:11.30NeuhNeuhThe only way to change both Jack App and Pulse, is change Master Alsa volume
19:12.19NeuhNeuhhttp://download.lazyone.fr/share/screenshot/80c549b5-0ec7-49cc-8bb8-d0fd05fe50bd.png If I change this volume, its work
19:12.34NeuhNeuhAnd my problem, is bind kmix to this volume
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19:14.35AbuDharI think I have the same problem.
19:15.48NeuhNeuhAnd on Phonon I can't setup Alsa x)
19:15.51NeuhNeuhFor default card
19:15.57BluesKajkmix vol should be the same as master in alsamixer
19:16.28NeuhNeuhBluesKaj: Ok, if I understand, for change « kmix » master, I must change alsamixer master ?
19:16.35BluesKajyes
19:16.44NeuhNeuhOk thank's :)
19:17.01NeuhNeuhkonsole
19:17.03BluesKajwhich audio chip NeuhNeuh?
19:17.03NeuhNeuhArf fail ><
19:17.30NeuhNeuhA Intel Sound card :>
19:17.38NeuhNeuhBUt I don't remember what exactly
19:18.06NeuhNeuhHm
19:18.08NeuhNeuhRealtek ALC269VB
19:18.19NeuhNeuh(Get in alsamixer
19:18.27BluesKajNeuhNeuh:  probly snd-hda-intel driver
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19:19.06NeuhNeuhYes
19:19.11NeuhNeuhHDA Intel PCH
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19:19.48NeuhNeuh(I have HDA Intel HDMI too)
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19:20.51NeuhNeuhDefault is on Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server)
19:22.53BluesKajt make it card0=default open with root permissions /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, then copy and paste this line to the bottom, options snd-hda-intel index=0, and save the file
19:23.32SysGhostJust upgraded KDE to 15.08, and I love that some apps had some bugs solved (Jim Raynor voice: It's about time.), but I notice that the new Dolphin file manager doesn't use the icon theme I've set in KDE control Center. It's using KDE's default no matter what. Why is that? and can I solve it locally?
19:24.18BlaXpiritSysGhost, what kde version is your kde control center?
19:25.27SysGhostSorry.. .supposed to be "System Settings". Version 5.3.2. KDE Frameworks 5.13.0
19:26.37NeuhNeuhI don't have alsa-base BluesKaj :p
19:26.43NeuhNeuh50-alsa.conf
19:26.46NeuhNeuhOh ok
19:26.51NeuhNeuhI have nothing say :D
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19:27.10SysGhostIs there some icon cache that need to be regenerated?
19:27.45BluesKajNeuhNeuh: ok, some OSs don't use that file
19:28.04NeuhNeuhI use OpenSUSE tumbleweed
19:28.17NeuhNeuhBut I have maybe found a solution
19:28.19NeuhNeuhI try thing
19:28.27BluesKajdo you really need pulseaudio ?
19:28.27SysGhostBluesKaj: I (just now) created a new blank user, and started up KDE. There icon switching works fine. Perhaps there is something I need to reset/delete. but what?
19:28.35SysGhostBlaXpirit*
19:28.50SysGhostBluesKaj: ignore me ;)
19:29.06BluesKajSysGhost:  ok :-)
19:29.22NeuhNeuhBluesKaj: Yes
19:29.37NeuhNeuhBluesKaj: Example : Lot of app don't work when Alsa is launched with Jack
19:29.42NeuhNeuhAnd need pulse
19:30.18NeuhNeuhBut I have found an pulse emulator x)
19:30.32NeuhNeuhapulse - PulseAudio emulation for ALSA
19:30.49BlaXpiritwat
19:30.54NeuhNeuhx)
19:31.05BlaXpiritavoiding pulseaudio is just so lame
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19:32.21NeuhNeuhSo, try to test \o/
19:32.25NeuhNeuhBecause i'm a lame <3
19:33.15BluesKajwell I have the same audio chip, but I don't use pulse because the intel driver enables internet audio directly with alsa whereas some audio chips do not ...I have a m-audio which requires pulse for the 1724 driver
19:33.27SysGhostBlaXpirit: I solved it. Seems by downloading another icon theme with help of the "Get more themes" function triggered something. It now switches icons as it should even within dolphin.
19:33.49BlaXpiritgood job
19:34.17JyZyXELhahah pulse audio emulation for alsa :D
19:34.29JyZyXELthat is so meta
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19:34.39BluesKajBlaXpirit:  I don't need an extra layer of useless digital processing rding on top of alsa which is what pulse does on my setup
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19:49.28NeuhNeuhSo
19:49.31NeuhNeuhThank's for your help :D
19:49.34NeuhNeuhhttp://download.lazyone.fr/share/screenshot/195766a2-800e-4296-b163-00a4ef21ea1e.png Its work ^^
19:49.45NeuhNeuhI have try to edit .asoundrc :x
19:50.09NeuhNeuhhttp://paste.alacon.org/38031 If you want :)
19:53.32BluesKajopensuse still uses asoundrc , ok
19:53.41NeuhNeuhBluesKaj: I don't know :')
19:53.44NeuhNeuhBut its work xD
19:54.01NeuhNeuhI have reinstalled Pulse Audio
19:55.03BluesKajok , other things to do, and it's been a long day
19:55.11NeuhNeuh:)
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21:08.37AriDroidHi :D
21:09.09AriDroidI'm back to the same problem with phonon :x
21:09.39AriDroidI can't bind kmix to « pch » master volume
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21:11.21AriDroidHmm ..  I must try DefaultCardOnStart=
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22:46.18NeuhNeuhAhaha
22:46.27NeuhNeuhI have find a ugly solution for my problem ^^
22:46.34NeuhNeuhFirst time : Kill kmix and pulse
22:46.40NeuhNeuhSecond time : Launch Jack Audio
22:46.53NeuhNeuhThird time : Launch kmix (without pulse), wait 2s , and launch pulse
22:47.32NeuhNeuhNow, I Must prevent edit kmix setting file x)
22:47.45NeuhNeuhBecause default cart return on « Pulse » :/
22:50.58NeuhNeuhIf you have a beter solution, i can take :)
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23:37.04SysGhostI hoped that plasma-desktop 5.3.2-3 would have solved the famous plasma crash upon logout/session end, but it seems not to be the case. What can I do to help?
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23:40.45Markus_KMiSysGhost: Install 5.4
23:41.38Markus_KMiThe release candidate is already very stable, as long as you don't use a vertical panel
23:41.40Haironot out yet
23:41.46Hairostable that is
23:42.03SysGhostAh. Seems I have to compile it myself then. Arch doesn't even have that one in [Testing] repo yet.
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23:42.19Markus_KMior you wait a few days
23:43.04SysGhost-"as long as you don't use a vertical panel".. .well that is exactly what I am doing... =S
23:43.19Markus_KMithen wait until the final release
23:43.54Markus_KMihttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351479
23:43.55SysGhostoh well... I'll do the waiting game. Have waited for quite some time so far, so a few more weeks/months shouldn't hurt =)
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23:44.05Markus_KMidays
23:44.58Markus_KMimaybe not tomorrow but surely less than a week
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