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| 03:12.14 | deitario1 | Headline: Kenyans Get Naken to Protest Gay Marriage --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_a21z98gOQ |
| 03:12.19 | deitario1 | Whoops. Wrong tab. |
| 03:12.52 | deitario1 | Sorry. (My theme is a bit low-contrast at the moment and I forgot I was in two three-letter freenode chans) |
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| 06:37.08 | viccuad | Hi guys, is there a plasma-mobile irc? |
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| 07:52.44 | g33kyaditya | Hi there ! I cannot update to KDE 4.14 . I added the Kubuntu backports PPA. Did an update and an upgrade. No use still. |
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| 09:34.37 | ohmy | hi everybody |
| 09:34.49 | ohmy | anyone know any doc regarding .qmlproject syntax please ? |
| 09:41.59 | leszek | ohmy: qmlproject file is only a file for qml only projects in qtcreator isn't it ? |
| 09:42.51 | leszek | ohmy: and I only found that regarding its syntax: https://forum.qt.io/topic/1486/qmlproject-file-question |
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| 09:47.33 | ohmy | leszek: thank you, i've a pure qml project and i'used .qmlproject to define it, when i thun it from qtcreator i keep having type FOO_BAR unavailable, however i used import "DIRECTORY_WHERE_FOO_BAR_IS" |
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| 09:49.26 | akaWolf | hello! I have some troubles with kde: some of my local config files are broken, so after login plasma is crashed, krunner is also crushed |
| 09:49.41 | akaWolf | but with test user all is working |
| 09:49.50 | akaWolf | which config can it be? |
| 09:50.14 | ynroot | it crashed or the shortcut are diferent |
| 09:50.15 | leszek | akaWolf: hard to tell. It could be anything that starts up |
| 09:50.25 | akaWolf | oh |
| 09:50.32 | akaWolf | how can I inspect that? |
| 09:50.52 | leszek | akaWolf: I would recommend going one by one and rename the config files and see if it helps |
| 09:50.59 | akaWolf | :) |
| 09:51.03 | leszek | akaWolf: first of all I would recommend removing the cache |
| 09:51.06 | leszek | in ~/.cache |
| 09:51.09 | akaWolf | ok |
| 09:51.09 | leszek | and see if it helps |
| 09:51.15 | leszek | and btw. which plasma version ? |
| 09:51.50 | akaWolf | $ plasma-desktop -v | pastebinit |
| 09:51.51 | akaWolf | http://paste.akawolf.org/view/0ReHo |
| 09:53.26 | leszek | ah ok. Then the cache is in ~/.kde/ or ~/.kde4 |
| 09:54.15 | akaWolf | I have both: ~/.cache and ~/.kde |
| 09:54.58 | akaWolf | $ ls -l ~/.kde/ | pastebinit |
| 09:54.58 | akaWolf | http://paste.akawolf.org/view/SJOdf |
| 09:55.16 | akaWolf | what exactly should I delete? |
| 09:55.28 | akaWolf | as you can see, there is many symlinks |
| 09:56.04 | ynroot | dont delete just in case--- |
| 09:56.28 | akaWolf | ynroot: ? |
| 09:59.03 | ynroot | try to login with root user and check the config... |
| 09:59.21 | ynroot | what is you distro |
| 09:59.37 | akaWolf | kdm is disable root login |
| 09:59.40 | akaWolf | NixOS |
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| 10:00.58 | ynroot | 1ª time hear about that |
| 10:01.10 | akaWolf | :) |
| 10:02.46 | akaWolf | so?... |
| 10:09.14 | leszek | akaWolf: don't remove just move it in ~/.kde |
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| 10:09.26 | akaWolf | what move? |
| 10:09.27 | leszek | move = rename |
| 10:09.38 | leszek | the cache directory in ~/.kde |
| 10:09.53 | akaWolf | mv ~/.cache ~/.kde |
| 10:09.54 | akaWolf | ? |
| 10:10.06 | akaWolf | mv ~/.cache/* ~/.kde |
| 10:10.07 | akaWolf | ? |
| 10:10.22 | leszek | no |
| 10:10.30 | leszek | rename the cache directory in ~/.kde |
| 10:11.27 | akaWolf | there is cache-akaWolf-PC and cache-nixos inside ~/.kde |
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| 10:16.02 | neoclust | someone with an idea for this error ? "static QPlatformTheme* QKdeTheme::createKdeTheme(): Unable to determine KDE dirs" |
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| 10:17.51 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 10:18.56 | leszek | akaWolf: rename the cache-akaWolf-PC directory. The other seems to be something left over from the live system |
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| 10:19.18 | akaWolf | leszek: ok |
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| 13:52.20 | prillian5 | which gui-packer can handle lzo |
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| 14:16.40 | raichoo | Hi, I'm wondering about the state of KDE4 Plasma 5 on FreeBSD. Where can I get information about that. Googling was not very satisfying. |
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| 14:41.00 | Psi | How can i profile Plasma5 Startup? It takes about 20 seconds to complete the last 20% from splash screen |
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| 15:07.11 | murph | Anyone have trouble with multiple monitors on Plasma5? I plug in one external and disable the laptop screen and it works well, then I add a second external and it just says "No available resolutions" in Display Configuration. |
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| 15:07.28 | murph | It worked fine recently, before I upgraded |
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| 15:11.34 | karolherbst1 | mhh I have the problem in plasma5, that any time anything updates in the tray, the CPU usage goes up to 100%. If that's something short, it doesn't matter, but if you a lot of stuff over samba or other slow connections, this CPU usage will stay the entire time, until the tasks are finished. this also happends on Network conections and so on |
| 15:11.57 | karolherbst1 | also the animations are kind of laggy |
| 15:12.42 | karolherbst | is there anything I can do about that? |
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| 15:13.32 | karolherbst | plasmashell is the process using the cpu |
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| 15:27.12 | bshah | karolherbst: do you have load viewer or any of applets with graph? |
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| 15:48.47 | ShalokShalom | https://conf.kde.org/en/akademy2015/public/events/198 |
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| 16:52.00 | invalidp | My sound is ok but my sound configuration panel is not working properly. When I click on the button 'Test' nothing happens. And sddm-kcm seems refuses to save changes, it says 'You are not allowed to save the changes'. Is it an authentification with kauth? How do I correct these ? |
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| 17:10.08 | BluesKaj | invalidp, what sddm changes are you making, adding a background pic or some such ? |
| 17:13.05 | invalidp | change the theme |
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| 17:19.29 | BluesKaj | invalidp, it will change for one session or appear to then it reverts to default |
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| 17:21.27 | invalidp | it is just not saving the configuration, i guess it needs root access to save the changes into /etc, is kauth and polkit supposed to authorize this |
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| 17:44.44 | karolherbst | bshah: no |
| 17:45.01 | karolherbst | its the Notifications icon for sure |
| 17:45.11 | karolherbst | because if I don't copy anything, the CPU usage is pretty low |
| 17:45.20 | karolherbst | its only while copiying stuff, or while connecting to a network |
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| 17:47.23 | hwpplayer1 | Hi friends , i tried to use cube effects , but it has bugs |
| 17:47.34 | hwpplayer1 | my nvidia optimus is working nice |
| 17:47.49 | hwpplayer1 | i see a black screen on some of the windows |
| 17:48.11 | hwpplayer1 | i see that on web sites that it is a bug |
| 17:48.22 | hwpplayer1 | that's why i call it a "bug" |
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| 17:52.36 | shtrb | Hi BlaXpirit |
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| 17:53.57 | BlaXpirit | shtrb, hello |
| 17:54.40 | shtrb | Any chance you can say what versions you are using related to notification, it worked for you so I wish to file a bug in debian so they will push that version |
| 17:54.44 | shtrb | please ... ? |
| 17:55.18 | BlaXpirit | shtrb, i dont understand |
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| 17:55.47 | shtrb | to the notifications , if you remember we talked few hours ago about the notification not seen on my side but on your side all worked fine (expire time for notify-send. |
| 17:56.23 | shtrb | I wish to file a bug says debian need to get new versions of package XXXX , I don't know what to ask for |
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| 17:56.39 | BlaXpirit | shtrb, on kde 4 everything works well |
| 17:56.49 | shtrb | yes , and for you on 5 worked for timeout 0 |
| 17:57.01 | shtrb | I'm talking about 5 |
| 17:57.04 | BlaXpirit | on kde 5 only with timeout 0 the notifications stay in tray popup |
| 17:57.06 | shtrb | for me even timeout 0 doesn't work |
| 17:57.20 | shtrb | oops , I missunderstood you then |
| 17:57.27 | BlaXpirit | on my virtual machine i use latest versions of everything as provided by kde 5 |
| 17:57.32 | shtrb | how ? |
| 17:57.39 | shtrb | iso ? |
| 17:57.41 | BlaXpirit | as provided by arch linux |
| 17:57.42 | BlaXpirit | that is |
| 17:57.44 | BlaXpirit | sorry |
| 17:57.53 | shtrb | it's good enough for me |
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| 18:19.12 | agent0 | Hello everybody! I suspect I have found a bug in kdenlive. Can anybody please check if it is possible to change language in kdenlive? |
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| 18:22.40 | BlaXpirit | agent0, can u switch language in ... let's say, Konsole? |
| 18:22.42 | centos7_kde410_n | is there any way to programmatically import a .khotkeys file? |
| 18:23.16 | BlaXpirit | centos7_kde410_n, what kind of file is that |
| 18:24.01 | BlaXpirit | and what is import |
| 18:24.15 | centos7_kde410_n | it's a hokeys file. like keyboard macro. where, say, alt-t brings up konsole, for example. |
| 18:24.24 | BlaXpirit | centos7_kde410_n, i dont have such a file |
| 18:25.18 | centos7_kde410_n | you can export at .khotkeys file by going to: Computer->System Settings->Shortcuts and Gestures->Custom Shortcuts |
| 18:25.50 | BlaXpirit | or... just directly going to Custom Shortcuts |
| 18:25.53 | BlaXpirit | search FTW |
| 18:26.15 | centos7_kde410_n | sorry, i'm a total newb. what is FTW? |
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| 18:26.25 | BlaXpirit | chat speak "for the win" |
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| 18:26.43 | BlaXpirit | centos7_kde410_n, and I mean you can search in Kickoff menu (or elsewhere) for Custom Shortcuts |
| 18:27.17 | BlaXpirit | centos7_kde410_n, well, it's a simple INI file. what do u want to do with it? |
| 18:27.40 | BlaXpirit | add to KDE? |
| 18:28.35 | centos7_kde410_n | i just want to automate setting up a few hotkeys via a script, sans keyboasrd/mouse gymnastics |
| 18:29.40 | BlaXpirit | centos7_kde410_n, i don't understand the prob lem |
| 18:29.51 | BlaXpirit | you can export hotkeys into a file, you can import hotkeys from a file |
| 18:29.58 | BlaXpirit | in the same menu |
| 18:30.26 | BlaXpirit | if you want to programmatically make hotkeys, you form a khotkeys file, then import it in that menu |
| 18:30.33 | BlaXpirit | i dont see what else can be added here |
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| 18:31.07 | centos7_kde410_n | yes, programmatically. importing via a gui menu is not in my definition of programatically. |
| 18:31.33 | BlaXpirit | centos7_kde410_n, having to click about 5 times sucks, huh |
| 18:32.23 | centos7_kde410_n | yes, id absolutly does. |
| 18:33.03 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: I cannot find where language selection in console is. In kdenlive there is a menu entry in Change interface language |
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| 18:33.59 | BlaXpirit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.03 | BlaXpirit | there u have, another bug xD |
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| 18:34.08 | BlaXpirit | agent0, then please try in Kate |
| 18:34.44 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: I cannot change there too |
| 18:35.02 | BlaXpirit | agent0, yay for unstable software |
| 18:35.38 | BlaXpirit | agent0, but how exactly does it not work? |
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| 18:37.07 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: Interface is in Russian (my locale settings), but there is only American english in choosing list. And actually, I cannot switch to English even with $ LANG=en_US.UTF-8 kdenlive |
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| 18:38.15 | BlaXpirit | agent0, system settings -> regional settings |
| 18:38.16 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: So, thanks for your suggestion, it seems that it is not kdenlive's problem, but kde's itself. |
| 18:38.25 | BlaXpirit | check that out |
| 18:39.22 | BlaXpirit | agent0, do u have only 1 preferred language there? |
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| 18:41.13 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: there was only russian in preffered languages. But in available languages there are lots of. I added British English to preffered too. |
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| 18:41.42 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: Now I need relogin to system. |
| 18:41.46 | BlaXpirit | agent0, well... if you have only Russian there but in that dialog see only American english then it's not this |
| 18:42.00 | BlaXpirit | maybe don't even relogin, because my suggestion is not worth looking into further |
| 18:42.41 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: sorry, did not understand... |
| 18:42.49 | BlaXpirit | agent0, i tried to see |
| 18:43.00 | BlaXpirit | if you only have american english in that dialog |
| 18:43.25 | BlaXpirit | forget what i was saying |
| 18:44.34 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: I did not relogined yet. But yes, I had only one (russian ) language as preffered. But in change dialog there was only "American English" which is strange and may be a bug. |
| 18:45.11 | BlaXpirit | agent0, what language is Kate in? |
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| 18:45.38 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: interface strings are on Russian |
| 18:45.53 | BlaXpirit | and you can't even choose russian in language selection dialog |
| 18:45.57 | BlaXpirit | this is 100% a bug |
| 18:47.01 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: yes, I cannot.I can only choose American English (string itself is as is, in English), but actually it is Russian. |
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| 18:48.44 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: I will return after relogin |
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| 18:52.22 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: I am returned |
| 18:53.03 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: You know, I have very strange behavior with changing language dialogs in different applications... |
| 18:53.21 | BlaXpirit | agent0, that's what a shitty mix of kde 4 and kde 5 will do |
| 18:53.51 | BlaXpirit | and that mix is why i don't use arch linux anymore |
| 18:54.08 | BlaXpirit | but of course, it's not really arch linux's fault |
| 18:54.13 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: what do you use? |
| 18:54.17 | BlaXpirit | kde devs declared this unholy mess as "stable" |
| 18:54.25 | BlaXpirit | and arch linux just gives u latest stable software |
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| 18:55.19 | BlaXpirit | agent0, i can guess that the language switching behavior is different across kde 4 and kde 5 apps |
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| 18:57.59 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: ok, but maybe I can help community at least by making bug reports. Some days before I and you were talkting about some kdenlive's errors, I discovered what was the problem (not an mp3 format, but using an image inside any format), made a bug report and it was fixer rather immediately. |
| 19:00.14 | BlaXpirit | hm that's nice to hear |
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| 19:02.48 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: can I for example completely remove kde4's mechanisms from laptop?Now with two preffered languages (first is Russian, second is British English), I still have the same problem in kdenlive: only American English is available, which is actually Russian. The same behavior in Kate. But, for example, in KMail there are three languages available: Russian, British English and American English |
| 19:03.12 | BlaXpirit | agent0, there is no kmail for kde 5 |
| 19:03.15 | BlaXpirit | as simple as that |
| 19:03.26 | BlaXpirit | agent0, arch linux only provides an unholy mix of kde 4 and kde 5 |
| 19:03.35 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: and by the way, in KMail all strings are in Russian, even American English string |
| 19:03.41 | BlaXpirit | there are all kinds of settings clashes and incompatibilities |
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| 19:06.26 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: Ok, does that mean that I need clear my configs or I just need to make a bug report for that? |
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| 19:06.49 | BlaXpirit | btw arch linux just provides "kde applications 15.04", again, it's not really its fault that kde applications 15.04 is a mix of kde 4 and kde frameworks 5 applications |
| 19:07.58 | BlaXpirit | i cannot help you |
| 19:09.15 | agent0 | BlaXpirit: ok, thanks anyway |
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| 19:11.20 | LjL-Alps | if you limit yourself to KF5 apps... there is not so much, is there? |
| 19:12.46 | LjL-Alps | by the way, has Kaffeine slowly been stripped out of features, and then replaced? it could do things like even download subtitles on the fly, but now it doesn't even have a real settings dialog. Bangarang is hardly up to par |
| 19:13.48 | agent0 | LjL-Alps: I do not know what apps are using KF5 only |
| 19:14.24 | LjL-Alps | agent0: well i don't use Arch, but it should be easy enough to find out by looking at what dependencies they have from the package manager. |
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| 19:15.16 | agent0 | LjL-Alps: yes, I think I could define it that way... |
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| 19:15.31 | LjL-Alps | if they depend on "libkdecore" that's KDE5, if they depend on "libkf5something" they're KF5 |
| 19:15.39 | LjL-Alps | s/KDE5/KDE4/ |
| 19:16.26 | agent0 | LjL-Alps: you mean libkdecore = KDE4 and libkf5smth = KF5 ? |
| 19:16.34 | LjL-Alps | yes |
| 19:16.51 | agent0 | LjL-Alps: thanks, I will know |
| 19:18.09 | agent0 | Do anybody did screen capturing with kdenlive? |
| 19:19.58 | agent0 | I ask because previously (version 15.04) there was Capture monitor tab, but it failed to work. Now I installed a new version (to check if another bug was fixed) and now Capture monitor tab just disappeared. |
| 19:20.58 | agent0 | I installed version 15.07 from git 15.07.0 (rev. v15.04.0-450-g1e41053) |
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| 19:24.38 | cb400f | those features probably don't have much to do with kdenlive itself, but more with the tons of multimedia libraries and their build options and stuff |
| 19:25.05 | cb400f | maybe they found out a way to "hide" the option, if the system doesn't support it |
| 19:25.10 | cb400f | just guessing here of course |
| 19:26.13 | agent0 | cb400f: I know kdenlive uses ffmpeg as backend. On some old blogs I read information, that kdenlive need recordmydesktop utility for capture to work, but I installed it and it did not helped. |
| 19:28.06 | agent0 | cb400f: of cource I can learn parameters of ffmpeg, but it would be more comfortable for creating videos such way, that they right away appears on timeline. |
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