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00:18.50wokyI configured my file associations with freedesktop stuff (.desktop, mimeapps.lst, ...) so now xdg-open opens files in what I want. However it seems Dolphin doesn't respect that. Is it possible to configure Dolphin to use it? I don't want the whole (crappy) freedesktop machinery. It'd be enough if it run *any* file with xdg-open. Is it possible?
00:18.55wokyHello =)
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01:24.54thiagowoky: there's no mimeapps.lst
01:25.37wokyI meant ~/.config/mimeapps.list
01:25.39thiagowoky: I don't know what you configured, but it wasn't the KDE configuration for XDG
01:25.48thiagoyeah, that file doesn't eixst
01:26.08thiagoKDE and GNOME keep different user settings, based on the same .desktop files
01:26.20thiagothe choice of applications is often different between the two environments
01:32.20wokySo I guess it's not easy to force Dolphin to use xdg-open for everything, is it?
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01:33.13thiagono
01:33.16thiagoit's completely impossible
01:33.32thiagoit's the other way around; xdg-open uses the same kfmclient, which is a front-end to what Dolphin uses
01:34.12wokywell, I would say that xdg-open on my system doesn't use kfmclient
01:34.24thiagothere you go, you found the problem
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02:17.16rdieterwoky: in particular, xdg-open (on kde) should use kde-open (or kde-open5 on plasma5)
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03:11.07marceloHi. Anybody can help me to configure sendmail in fedora 21?
03:12.11saintdevWhere did the wallpaper configuration get moved to? I no longer have that option when I right click on the desktop. I'm on KDE 4.14.6 on Gentoo.
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04:45.49shevyI am compiling ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/kde/stable/4.14.3/src/
04:46.36shevyWhosever idea it was to make this more standalone, was a good person. I can cherry pick things now, like konsole, and get that quite quickly and quite easily
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04:58.47forivallwhy does kde identify force me to use a firstname-lastname based username?
04:58.59forivallcan i get it changed later to this one, which is preferred
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05:03.09forivallah, the forum at least lets me specify my own nick :)
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05:28.54valorieforivall: usually in copyright notices and such, realname is enforced
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05:29.35forivallyeah, i'm fine with my real name, just login username, as in, it forced me to use "jklassen"
05:29.43forivallor a variant
05:30.04valorieI know, I got no choice at all, and don't like "zimmerman"
05:30.19valoriebut it shows up very few places besides commits
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05:34.52ErtheKDE organizational question:  Does OpenDesktop.org and the organizational portion of KDE ever talk to each other?
05:38.42valorieErthe: sure
05:39.18valoriethat said, the communication with them has been less than ideal for quite a few reasons
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06:37.45shevyI think the only complaint I have about cmake-based projects is that they seem harder to use from a "user"-perspective (aka someone who wants to compile), but other than that, I am finally happy with kde4
06:37.46shevylaters
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07:03.50lordievaderGood morning.
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08:01.33realcnbshey ppl, how do i know if plasma5 is ready to replace the 4.x one for daily usage?
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08:01.48realcnbsis it like in a beta state? or mo stable?
08:01.55realcnbsmore*
08:02.57lordievaderrealcnbs: Try it out in a vm or live-cd/usb?
08:03.34realcnbsi did, but vm experience is not any close to real usage..
08:03.57realcnbswould be great to see feedback from guys who are using it all the time ettc
08:04.39lordievaderI only have plasma5 on a machine that is not used very much...
08:04.53realcnbsare you happy with it?
08:04.58realcnbswhat version btw?
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08:06.03lordievaderErr, what ever version is currently on Kubuntu Vivid.
08:06.17realcnbsyeah, no idea )
08:06.35lordievaderIt's quite allright. No real have usage yet, just some terminal stuff and web browsing.
08:06.45realcnbsi see
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08:24.26pavelicgood day folks. i'm running kubuntu 14.10 here and i'm having an issue with the panel on secondary screen. Basically, it always behaves as if its set to "Windows go below" which is a big problem. i see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94470 covers it, but... bleh.
08:24.34pavelicIs there a possible workaround/fix?
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08:32.11pavelic(other than compile KDE with the patch in the ticket there.
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08:36.50axtrozpavelic: what do the panel settings show? Is it set to always visible or windows go below? Did you try setting it to something else and back to 'always visible' ? I'm running KDE 4.14.2 on LM 17.1 (based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS) and can't reproduce it.
08:38.17pavelicaxtroz, I have one screen above the other and maximized windows on the upper screen go under the panel. Under "More Settings" for the panel, its set to "Always visible".
08:38.31pavelicit works perfectly fine if the screens are next to each other.
08:39.41pavelicand yes, i did try setting it to something else and back, didnt change anything.
08:41.04pavelicaxtroz, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94470#c50
08:41.17pavelici'm planning on trying to recompile kwin with that patch and see if it helps.
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08:44.16axtrozpavelic: Ah, I see. Couldn't reproduce at first as my panel is on top on the upper screen and that works fine :) Moving it on the bottom produced this situation on my end too.
08:44.25axtrozGood luck with the patch then, hope it works for you
08:47.34pavelicif only it wasnt a 2 year old patch :p
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10:55.15dinduksHi.
10:55.43dinduksIs there any way to use Kontact with a CalDAV/CardDAV server?
10:55.59dinduksBasic research I've done don't answer my question.
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11:21.18donniezazendinduks: you might have to setup calendar and contacts separately.
11:22.13donniezazenLike go into korganizer add your calendar and go into kaddressbook and add there.
11:22.27donniezazendo you have your own server or something like Kolab or ownCloud.
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11:33.04BluesKajHiyas all
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11:40.39dinduksdonniezazen: I will try that, even tho I haven't seen a mention to "caldav" or "carddav" when browsing the menus.
11:40.49dinduksdonniezazen: And yes, I host my own server (calendarserver).
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11:55.13donniezazendinduks: ownCloud does support CalDAV and CardDAV using Kontact. So does Kolab. see this https://doc.owncloud.org/server/6.0/user_manual/pim/sync_kde.html
11:57.40dinduksI will try this tonight, thanks donniezazen!
11:57.55donniezazenyour welcom
11:58.04donniezazenyour welcome
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13:17.29fpsyo, i tried setting up i3 as WM for KDE instead of kwin.. as expected that needs quite a bit of config
13:17.40fpsso i'm trying to change the default window manager back to kwin
13:17.45fpsbut the system settings won't let me
13:17.52fps[fails to start - it is confused]
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13:18.04fpsanyways. where to set it manually after logging out and using tty?
13:20.23fpsheh ok
13:20.29rdieterfps: look for ksmserverrc: [General] section, key windowManager=
13:20.29fpstaking a detour via compiz fixed it
13:20.38fpsrdieter: thanks, but i got it sorted out already :)
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13:24.13fpsmaybe it's the wrong thing to do anyways
13:24.16fpsis there a way to configure kwin to always give me windows fullscreen on one monitor
13:24.19fpsand use a two lane layout on my second one?
13:24.54mgraesslinfps: you could use kwin scripts for it
13:25.21fpsmgraesslin: hm, good point. might look into it
13:25.45fpsi mean, dragging the windows to the edges isn't too much work.. but still if i could save  it :)
13:26.11fpsok,brbr
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14:08.04lordievaderI got couple of keyboard shortcuts set up for that.
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16:01.33yawniekis it possible to switch the plasma desktop workspace and/or bring a specific app into focus from within a script (eg via ssh) ?
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16:10.13ochurlaudHello there, was there a regression or something in the last weeks about locking the screen? It was perfectly working and now it freezes kde. I have to change tty and systemctl restart kdm
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16:28.50SysGh0stbaloo_file seems like it has hanged, and the command "balooctl disable" also seems to hang when executed. CPU load is at 100%, but no disk activity at all. What else can I do to remedy this? (f I kill the baloo_file process, it'll temporarily "solve" the problen, only to come back alter on)
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16:40.59SysGh0st...also: despite that baloo service has been disabled, it keeps starting/running. 1: balooctl disable 2: balooctl status. Returns: Baloo File Indexer is running. Indexed 0 / 0 files
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16:55.03MikeHWhen do the sticky-notes widgets _actually write their contents to disk)_
16:55.18MikeHi had a message in a stickynote for 3 days, and then my system locked up, and i forcibly rebooted
16:55.23MikeHand the note was there, but its content was empty
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16:55.45MikeHwhy is the content not written immediately to disk when I exit the foregroundness of this widget?
16:55.52SysGh0stMight have been caused by disk cache.
16:56.06MikeHi cannot fathom that a disk cache would persist for 3 days
16:56.07SysGh0stchanges was only cached, but not synced-
16:56.17SysGh0sttrue that.
16:56.20MikeHif xfs does this, then i must change filesystems soon
16:57.30SysGh0stI'm not sure, but files that are kept open, remains in cache until a sync command is executed, or when the files is closed.
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16:57.56SysGh0stIt also depends on the mount options.
16:58.54SysGh0stAny reason to why you use xfs?
16:59.06SysGh0st(Just curious)
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17:00.40shkaanybody using spider oak on kde frameworks 5 with the obsidian coast theme?
17:01.22shkadespite disabling "use colors for non-kde applications" in the systemsettings5 I still have bright font in the spideroak menu
17:01.31shkaita makes it unreadable
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18:04.16Veaceslavhello
18:04.36Veaceslavif there is any CMake guru, I need some help :)
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18:07.28shkaVeaceslav: not quite guru, but please, speak
18:08.09Veaceslavrecently a developer rewrote the cmake code for digiKam
18:08.20Veaceslavyou can see it in the frameworks branch
18:08.35Veaceslavand now a lot is compiled as STATIC lib
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18:09.04VeaceslavI'm not sure that was the correct way.. since linking takes a lot
18:09.25Veaceslavand there are 8 dynamic libs with a size of ~200Mb
18:09.55Veaceslavso I have a question..
18:10.10Veaceslavdoes STATIC make .a files?
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18:10.27Veaceslavmaybe somebody used OBJECT macro?
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18:30.12shkaVeaceslav: it should
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18:33.17shkaVeaceslav: it seems that new konveration has some problems with query chat
18:33.56Veaceslavshka: did you get my message?
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18:34.59shkanow yes
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19:00.39cyphermanhi
19:00.42cyphermancan someone explain to me why when i delete something and empty thash the volume gets very loud for playing the system sounds?
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19:02.08rdietercypherman: possibly this bug, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324975
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19:02.26rdieter"Volume gets restored to 100% after each knotify event"
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19:02.51rdieterit's fixed in latest kde applications 15.04.0 release
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19:43.19Olipro_I have a Gentoo KDE build running in VirtualBox and whenever I scroll the mouse while moving the pointer it results in me getting flipped through active windows
19:43.34Olipro_(rather than doing what I want it to and simply scrolling through the active window)
19:43.53MikeHstrange..
19:44.17MikeHthe only time i see scroll-wheel changing apps, is if you are hovering over the task manager widget
19:44.23MikeHor if you are in the middle of an alt-tab (sometimes)
19:44.51Olipro_yeah, I
19:44.57Olipro_*I'm definitely not hovering over the widget
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19:45.28Olipro_although maybe it thinks I am due to being a VM mouse or something?
19:45.32Olipro_the cursor actually flickers too
19:45.38MikeHstrange..
19:46.16MikeHi really don't know what to say, other than ive had random issues with virtualbox running the android thing Genymotion
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20:07.19Olipro_MikeH: looks like the behaviour occurs when the input is set to "USB Tablet" in VirtualBox
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20:09.01MikeHOoh
20:09.10MikeHnew feature and decidedly not what you are using
20:09.19MikeHfunkedy
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22:08.57asterismordieter_work: how can in upgrade this in debian 8 jessie? the knotify volumen restore 100% issue?
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22:22.37delfinahi, how do i get device actions like open with amarok etc in plasma 5/kde 5? thank you
22:24.20delfinaoh, its always been there so empty
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22:28.57delfinais there any easy way to import photos from device actions? kipi-plugins isn't caught up yet
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