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00:00.22LapJuptosky, and rdieter  found the problem. in the accounts section just had the username and not username@isp
00:00.37toskyah :)
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03:27.21jaggztthis "Display - KDE Control Module" .. it's different than in older versions of KDE...  I'm on a Debian KDE system using Debian Testing...
03:27.28jaggztI'm trying to figure out where to post about this bug...
03:28.15jaggztwhen I enable one of my displays (tv via HDMI), it doesn't trigger the "Apply" button to be black.. stayed greyed out
03:31.39Roberth1990jaggzt: that belongs to #debian-next on oftc
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06:00.16fnoyanisihi, I have updated from KDE4 to Plasma5 desktop and libreoffice menus are not working properly. When I hoove mouse on menu items, they are not highlighted but the work fine. Any solutiosn to this issue? thanks
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08:57.24lordievaderGood morning.
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09:18.59holgerssonGood morning to everyone near my time zone, hello to the rest!
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09:23.54holgerssonI'm running Gentoo and "KDE 4", tested "KDE 5" around easter and switched now back to "KDE 4". At present I can't edit settings like KDM or kwallet. The first would be understandable (might be something with rights, though kdesudo is installed), but the second one doesn't attempt to make sense to me in any way. Is there something these two have in common, e.g. a library? I hope so, because neither I nor the other gentoo folks had an helping idea. Thanks in
09:23.54holgerssonadvance!
09:25.02holgerssonI' running KDE at 4.14.3 and tried a clean, new user - resulting in the same odd behaviour.
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10:16.03igalicGood morning happy people.
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10:18.23igalicso i got curious why sysdig showed baloo_file as topprocs_file, and found out it's still from kde4, updated it to baloo-kf5, and now it looks like this: https://gist.github.com/igalic/20a76de06b13550ea13a
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10:18.31igalicwhich, arguably, is worse.
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10:26.24igalicbecause now it's top by memory and cpu, also :|
10:26.49igaliceven after disabling some of the directories where i probably don't really need it (~/src with 230823093 git repositories, etc…)
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10:39.36Zaisterwhat does it mean when KDE says "unable to start backend" when trying to install a font?
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12:20.05WalexZaister: I don't install fonts using KDE, I think that's a very bad idea. I install them using distribution-specific tools or my own understanding of how font systems work (which is very difficult to acquire).
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12:31.36holgerssonnice, my kde4-kwallet problem is solved the windows way: reinstalling everything with qt & dbus and kwalletd + manager :-)
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12:43.26Walexholgersson: that is very sad.
12:44.01holgerssonWalex: Sure, but it worked and was a matter of less then 20min
12:44.23Walexholgersson: unfortunately KDE is going very much "the windows way": the way it works is largely undocumented, and complex, so to fix problems often the easiest way is not to fix the cause of the problem, but to reset to known state.
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12:45.19holgerssonWalex: Oh, that sounds odd. But hey, in my case this came after downgrading from an more or less experimental Version to the "stable" one.
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12:46.22Walexholgersson: that was quite "courageous" :-)
12:47.48holgerssonWalex: I know - but I was way too nosey to wait until FW/P 5 are in the main gentoo tree and therefore more or less stable.
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12:48.39holgerssonWalex: And I have to say, that KDE is way bigger then the DIY-DEs I used before (tiling wms + standalone applications) and still mostly stable.
12:49.00toskyWalex: the documentation problem can be solved also by new volunteers helping with documentation
12:49.05holgerssonIn short: I can't relly complain :D (If a KDE dev reads here: THANKS!)
12:49.15holgersson*really
12:49.39tosky(just remember that you are talking about Plasma)
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12:56.00Linnakis kde gpl licensed?
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13:56.26jrHi, I'm being spammed in freenode by a bot named "kde-ci-bot" which is apparently monitoring KDE projects commits ( https://build-sandbox.kde.org/ ), does anyone know who is responsible for this bot ?
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13:57.57bshahjr: oops
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13:58.08bshahcan you report on the #kde-sysadmin
13:58.10bshah?
13:58.15jryes
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13:58.46BluesKajHey folks
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14:58.02donniezazenany of you mount your android phones in dolphin via ssh?
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15:22.42alienBOBdonniezazen: using kdeconnect, yes
15:23.53donniezazenalienBOB: Are you always connected or does kdeconnect connects on demand and disconnects automatically?
15:25.07alienBOBYou have to click the icon in kdeconnect to have KDE mount the android device's storage
15:25.24donniezazenyou mean click the icon in dolphin?
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15:25.54alienBOBNo - in the kdeconnect systray icon
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15:26.46donniezazeninstalling now. I haven't used it for a while.
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15:27.45StatelessCati'm new to QML/QML2/QTQUICK... I'm trying to wrote my own plasmoid in QML2. For this I need to execute some system command (and need to parse it with some grep...). Do i need to use a C++ class to do it ?
15:30.17donniezazenStatelessCat: try #kde-devel
15:30.49StatelessCatdonniezazen: thanks
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15:31.59donniezazenyour welcome.
15:32.44donniezazenStatelessCat: It's Sunday so you might not find many folks.
15:34.11StatelessCatfolks ?
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15:35.46donniezazenkde devs to help you out.
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15:52.11yann-kaeligHi
15:52.48yann-kaeligWhat is the problem with kde clock ! All the time when I reboot my machine kde change my time to something else
15:53.55yann-kaeligHow is it possible that kde has access to my system date !
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18:19.18hmmmmhi, how can I disable the F1 and F10 key accelerators for GTK applications from KDE?
18:19.52hmmmmI get that you can directly edit .gtkrc but they'd just get overwritten because of the autogeneration
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21:22.40Linnakhi, in which config file is the lang setting or locale?
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21:23.59Linnaki've downloaded hu-kde-l10 but it's just half my language
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21:24.54toskyLinnak: what is your goal? Systemsettings allows to change the language used for applications
21:25.18Linnakyes. that changed from full english to half hungarian
21:25.51toskywhich application? Qt4 or Qt5?
21:26.21Linnakqt4
21:28.28toskyLinnak: which application? The statistic looks good for kdelibs4 (99% kdelibs4, 84% qt: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable-kde4/team/hu/, and also 100% kde-runtime: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk-kde4/team/hu/)
21:28.36patasome plasmoïds don't grab the keyboard when activated by a shortcut, it's annoying
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21:28.45Linnakfor example konsole
21:28.51Linnakthe menus still english
21:29.09toskyafter restarting it?
21:29.14Linnakyes
21:29.28toskywhich distribution?
21:29.36Linnakfreebsd
21:29.44toskyversion of konsole?
21:30.14Linnak2.14.2
21:30.44toskyit looks like konsole was basically translated
21:30.46toskysorry
21:30.51toskyfully translated
21:31.01toskybut menu should come from the libraries
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21:32.06LinnakI set in system settings to hungarian so half of the system translated
21:32.33toskyyes, I've got this: I'm saying that, from the translation point of view, the translations should be quite complete, not "half"
21:34.06Linnaki had the same problem once on linux, we had to put a line with lang hu_HU.UTF_8 somewhere but I can't remember where
21:34.33Linnaklocale-gen doesn't work on bsd
21:34.40toskysure, but kdelibs4 translations does not rely on locale variables; this was changed in Qt5 and Frameworks 5
21:34.46toskydo not rely*
21:36.08toskyLinnak: I would ask on FreeBSD channels/forums
21:36.17Linnakok thanks
21:36.35toskynot sure it would solve the problem, because the language variables should be different for kdelibs4 applications
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21:49.55Linnaki have no answer from bsd channel
21:50.32Linnaklibreoffice is also english despite i installed language pack also
21:51.58Linnakhttp://i.imgur.com/TfLphhP.png
21:52.07Linnakfrankeinstein
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21:53.33Roberth1990Linnak: maybe hungarian translation is incomplete
21:54.00toskyLinnak: libreoffice depends on the locale, for what I remember - and no, KDE settings does not affect global locale in kdelibs4 world
21:54.15Linnakand just for freebsd right, because I use it for years now on linux
21:54.41toskyeven on Linux
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21:55.12Linnaki do the same on linux and everithing are hungarian
21:55.19Linnakeverything
21:56.36toskybut which language did you select in your distribution for installation?
21:56.50Linnakjust kde libreoffice and firefox lang packages what i need on linux and one setting in system settings - > locale and a restart
21:57.16toskymaybe the system locale was already in hungarian, but you missed the lang packs
21:57.22Linnaki had only english at installation
21:57.59toskythis sound really strange
21:58.08Linnakwhere is the lang setting file located?
21:58.20toskyfor what? System? No idea on freebsd
21:58.28Linnakin kde?
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22:00.57toskyLinnak: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
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22:01.48Linnakand it's hu_HU.UTF8 or  hu_HU.UTF-8
22:01.56toskyno, that's KDE-specific
22:02.03toskythe locale you mention is the system locale
22:02.12Linnakok thanks
22:04.20Linnakit's hu in that file
22:05.25toskyyes, and you see hungarian strings in kdelibs-based applications
22:05.52Linnakso the problem is with system locale
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