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| 02:10.54 | rascul | is it possible to run kde only one one display ie :0.1 ? |
| 02:11.45 | thiago | no |
| 02:11.56 | thiago | you mean "screen", not display |
| 02:12.01 | thiago | KDE takes over the entire display, e.g. :0 |
| 02:12.03 | rascul | yeah, screen |
| 02:12.12 | thiago | well, actually, KDE will always use :0.0 |
| 02:12.17 | thiago | :0.1 will be unmanaged |
| 02:12.19 | rascul | my terminologies might not be so good when i'm drinking heh |
| 02:13.26 | rascul | it was just a potential band aid fix anyway to run kde like that |
| 02:14.01 | rascul | the real issue is ati not understanding that my tv is not my primary screen |
| 02:14.40 | rascul | i'll probably get it figured out tomorrow after i sober up though heh |
| 02:15.08 | Dattorz | Are we getting better display syntax once we replace X with Wayland? |
| 02:15.31 | Dattorz | I never could figure out the whole $DISPLAY |
| 02:15.35 | Dattorz | Thing |
| 02:15.53 | rascul | host:display.screen |
| 02:16.01 | rascul | not sure that display is the right term there |
| 02:16.40 | thiago | Dattorz: there will be no DISPLAY or syntax |
| 02:16.51 | Dattorz | Yay |
| 02:17.12 | Dattorz | just really doesn't like X |
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| 02:37.44 | Roberth1990 | Dattorz: the only good thing about X is that it is stable |
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| 05:09.42 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello. Is there a Muon Package Manager KF5 based? |
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| 05:15.07 | bshah | yes |
| 05:15.23 | bshah | muon - master is KF5 based IIRC |
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| 05:15.54 | Safa_[A_boy] | yes yes master is KF5, But I can't find the package manager (Arch Linux) |
| 05:16.19 | Safa_[A_boy] | I'm just asking if anyone can see the manager thing in his/her disro |
| 05:17.29 | bshah | ?! you mean packagekit? |
| 05:17.41 | Safa_[A_boy] | Muon Package Manager |
| 05:19.04 | bshah | you mean in menu?? |
| 05:19.11 | Safa_[A_boy] | Yes? |
| 05:19.40 | bshah | I think its in system category |
| 05:19.56 | Safa_[A_boy] | I checked the filelist, Nothing in there |
| 05:20.09 | bshah | but last time I tried it on Arch linux it didn;t work out. |
| 05:20.10 | Safa_[A_boy] | Just the discover and updater |
| 05:20.38 | bshah | oh; wait.. muon is not package manager |
| 05:20.41 | bshah | right.. |
| 05:20.49 | bshah | Apper is package manager |
| 05:20.56 | Safa_[A_boy] | :'( |
| 05:21.18 | Safa_[A_boy] | https://jontheechidna.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/02searchedandclicked.png |
| 05:21.34 | Safa_[A_boy] | Apper was a great app |
| 05:22.02 | bshah | I am sorry; but I have no idea.. |
| 05:22.14 | Safa_[A_boy] | No problem :) |
| 05:22.38 | bshah | I don't use external package management softwares.. |
| 05:22.48 | bshah | pacman itself is superhero. :P |
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| 05:23.29 | Safa_[A_boy] | Yeah your right, But I'm not a big terminal fan |
| 05:24.26 | bshah | personal choices.. ;) |
| 05:24.40 | bshah | anyway off to university.. |
| 05:25.36 | Safa_[A_boy] | See you then |
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| 05:34.25 | fcomtois | hi |
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| 05:34.49 | fcomtois | does anyone know if it is possible to mount an AFP share with Dolphin ? |
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| 06:49.03 | stk | argh!!! |
| 06:49.09 | stk | KDE 5 is stupeed |
| 06:49.19 | stk | break Input method all over again |
| 06:49.45 | stk | input method be like... a 20 years old problem with lunix |
| 06:50.16 | stk | now kde 5 apps have just arrived to make it worse |
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| 06:52.23 | valorie | stk: could you be specific? |
| 06:52.33 | valorie | I'm having no input problems |
| 06:53.08 | stk | yeah, right |
| 06:53.22 | stk | the last 20 years never happened |
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| 06:53.42 | Verge | Point well made |
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| 07:00.42 | valorie | well, bug reports are welcome |
| 07:00.55 | valorie | unspecific complaints are not very useful |
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| 07:38.29 | stk | Hello, I'm on Arch Linux and using 2 apps: Konversation and Konsole |
| 07:38.52 | stk | After updating to the QT5 builds, they both got the same issue with "Don't show this message again" |
| 07:39.24 | stk | Like if I ssh into a server and Alt+F4, Konsole will ask me if I really want to close Konsole |
| 07:39.35 | stk | and provide me the option "Don't show this message again" |
| 07:39.48 | stk | I tick it, choose OK, next times, it always comes back |
| 07:40.27 | stk | same thing happening to Konversation 1.6 |
| 07:40.54 | stk | I would like to know if this is a known bug of KDE Framework 5 before reporting |
| 07:41.19 | stk | this issue is... very very annoying |
| 07:42.04 | stk | both apps were built with KDE Framework 5.8.0 |
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| 07:45.55 | stk | "Do not ask again" sounds like a mocking user tool for KDE now |
| 07:47.20 | valorie | stk: I've not heard of this before, so I believe reporting a bug is the right thing to do |
| 07:47.29 | valorie | I agree, that would be really annoying |
| 07:47.31 | stk | th |
| 07:47.33 | stk | anks |
| 07:47.35 | valorie | nag screens are nagging |
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| 07:47.52 | stk | ah, ibus being friendly |
| 07:47.53 | stk | again |
| 07:47.56 | stk | thanks |
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| 10:00.30 | Peace- | mmm it's normal that when kwin_x11 crashes then i can't type anything ? |
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| 10:02.46 | Peace- | i mean i have had to ,luckly, open with kate bash_history ==> find a line with : kwin_x11 --replace coping and pasting get back an usable system but it was a bit weird |
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| 10:16.37 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 10:31.40 | joules | Hi, hddtemp frontend for kde? |
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| 10:35.20 | JackWinter | probably no one remembers, but i solved my knotify problem (filling up the logs), but for some reason I had debug enabled for knotify :) |
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| 10:47.00 | JackWinter | joules: i have it integrated in gkrellm, but that's hardly a kde app :) still haven't found a replacement for gkrellm but on the other hand i haven't really looked for a long time. if anyone has a good suggestion i'm all ears |
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| 10:55.34 | Zaister | I have a weird problem. Plasma (5.2.2) freezes completely about 2-3 minutes after login for me. When I try to login with a completely new user, plasmashell crashes with this log: http://paste.kde.org/pt5lczjqa |
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| 10:56.01 | Zaister | This started yesterday whne previousy the system had worked fine. There were no relevant updates I can think of |
| 10:56.46 | Zaister | oh that was the .xsession-errors, the plasma crash log is here: https://paste.kde.org/puj3yevzd |
| 10:57.09 | Zaister | can anybody help? |
| 10:57.26 | Peace- | Zaister: mah tried with fresh .conf files ? |
| 10:57.40 | Peace- | Zaister: better if a new user is created to test better the stuff |
| 10:57.45 | Zaister | as I said, I tried a completely new user |
| 10:57.50 | Peace- | ah ok |
| 10:57.51 | Zaister | -> plasma crashes |
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| 10:58.16 | Peace- | Zaister: what i can say it's that on kubuntu 15.04 it doesn't crash |
| 10:58.45 | Peace- | Zaister: distro ? |
| 10:59.00 | Zaister | Well I have been using it for months with no problems, until yesterday when it started freezing |
| 10:59.01 | Zaister | gentoo |
| 10:59.07 | Peace- | mmm gentoo |
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| 10:59.52 | Zaister | I can eliminate the video card as the problem, I have already tried a different card |
| 11:00.09 | Peace- | sorry but i can't help you |
| 11:00.17 | Zaister | thenks anyway |
| 11:00.19 | Peace- | i am a debian boy |
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| 11:26.04 | spaceone | hi |
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| 11:26.25 | spaceone | how can i see the DISPLAY envvar which is used by the current running KDM |
| 11:27.08 | spaceone | # cat /proc/$(pidof kdm)/environ |
| 11:27.10 | spaceone | PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbinLANG=de_DE.UTF-8PWD=/ |
| 11:27.21 | spaceone | seems there is nothing set |
| 11:29.26 | Walex | spaceone: cat /proc/$(pidof kwin)/environ | tr '\0' '\n' |
| 11:30.17 | spaceone | Walex: there is no kwin |
| 11:30.22 | spaceone | process |
| 11:30.28 | spaceone | KDM not KDE |
| 11:30.30 | Walex | spaceone: cat /proc/$(pidof kdm)/environ | tr '\0' '\n' |
| 11:30.44 | Walex | spaceone: also what makes you think that the only way an X process can select a display is via the environment? |
| 11:30.44 | spaceone | Walex: well, i posted that output already |
| 11:31.09 | Walex | spaceone: that output was probably wrong. NULs. |
| 11:31.12 | spaceone | Walex: i don't think so, but i don't know any other |
| 11:31.27 | spaceone | the NULs were replaces by empty strings |
| 11:31.43 | spaceone | PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin |
| 11:31.45 | spaceone | LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 |
| 11:31.47 | spaceone | PWD=/ |
| 11:32.01 | Walex | spaceone: that's almost a paste flood... |
| 11:32.57 | spaceone | will not paste again that things, but that is the prove that DISPLAY is not in there |
| 11:33.45 | Walex | spaceone: try 'xterm -display :0' for example... |
| 11:34.22 | Walex | spaceone: also note that KDM is a bit "special", it is actually a Display Manager, so it uses XDMCP... |
| 11:35.12 | Walex | spaceone: also note that connections can be both by TCP or UNIX Socket. |
| 11:35.40 | Walex | spaceone: your best bet is to look at the output of 'lsof -c kdm' and interpret it accordingly. |
| 11:35.41 | spaceone | okay ^^ |
| 11:36.21 | Peace- | mgraesslin: is there a way to launch kwin_x11 from , the terminal , CTRL ALT F1 , in the current session aviable in CTRL ALT F7 ? |
| 11:36.28 | Walex | spaceone: the XDCP is relevant because for example KDM can manage many displays via XDCP, including on other machines. |
| 11:36.40 | mgraesslin | Peace-: use the DISPLAY variable |
| 11:36.59 | Peace- | ah |
| 11:37.02 | Peace- | just that ? |
| 11:37.04 | Walex | spaceone: so _usually_ the list of displays that an XDCP server manages is in the configuration file. |
| 11:37.28 | Peace- | mgraesslin: thank |
| 11:37.30 | spaceone | hmm, lsof shows no sockets except /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl/socket |
| 11:37.35 | spaceone | and 2 pipes |
| 11:37.57 | Peace- | mgraesslin: btw i have done minimize maximize close button :) in plasma 5 |
| 11:37.58 | Walex | spaceone: note also that aa display manager can manage displays in two way: by launching them or connecting to existing displays. |
| 11:38.35 | Walex | spaceone: then perhaps you have configured 'kdm' in '/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc' to connect to displays using TCP |
| 11:38.51 | Walex | spaceone: in which case you may want to use 'lsof -i tcp -c kdm' |
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| 11:39.37 | Walex | spaceone: KDM would be connected by default to a port in the 600x range |
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| 11:42.00 | spaceone | Walex: hm, thats strange. even with -i tcp i got no TCP sockets for KDM |
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| 11:42.48 | Walex | spaceone: then please verify that the above works with 'konsole' or 'kwin' for example, you know, to double check] |
| 11:43.23 | Walex | spaceone: note that sometimes the socket is called just 'socket'... |
| 11:43.57 | Walex | spaceone: and then you must match its ID with that of a socket open to a server. |
| 11:44.28 | spaceone | i'll try with X |
| 11:45.04 | Walex | spaceone: you are running all of the above as 'root' I hope... |
| 11:46.08 | spaceone | yes |
| 11:46.15 | spaceone | hmm, kdm does not run under X? |
| 11:46.29 | spaceone | there is no X server started but kdm is started :/ |
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| 12:01.23 | spaceone | Walex: okay, i installed a second system. There i have @/tmp/.X11-unix/X0 |
| 12:01.29 | spaceone | this is probably the socket |
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| 12:23.37 | spaceone | where can i get the magic cookie of the running KDM instance? |
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| 12:32.55 | Vamp898 | Im running an Archlinux Machine with the most current KDE (5) and i have the following problem. When my computer runs longer than 2-3 hours, kded5 and plasmashell are both causing 100% cpu load |
| 12:33.18 | Vamp898 | if i restart them, its fine for 2-3 hours again. I have no clue where this comes from and where to look for errors... |
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| 12:59.56 | Ormod | Vamp898: I saw something similar on my laptop last night with 5.2.2 (FC22) |
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| 13:12.47 | Walex | spaceone: been away... |
| 13:12.51 | Walex | spaceone: still around? |
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| 13:25.45 | spaceone | Walex: yes |
| 13:25.47 | spaceone | i got it |
| 13:26.00 | spaceone | export $(cat /proc/$(pidof kdm_greet)/environ | tr '\0' '\n' | grep ^XAUTHORITY=) |
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| 15:01.27 | infandum | I'm using arch. How do I completely disable all sounds for popups in plasma 5? |
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| 15:04.42 | Peace- | infandum: why you have sound on popups ^ |
| 15:04.44 | Peace- | ? |
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| 15:05.54 | rdieter | infandum: probably easiest to use kmix to set notifications volume to 0 |
| 15:06.31 | rdieter | asusming by "popups" you really meant notifications |
| 15:07.11 | Peace- | rdieter: b default you should not get sounds |
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| 15:08.24 | rdieter | Peace-: some notifications include sounds |
| 15:09.49 | rdieter | infandum: sorry, in kmix they are labelled as "Event Sounds" |
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| 15:16.11 | infandum | Yeah I mean notifications |
| 15:16.17 | infandum | They are very loud |
| 15:16.28 | infandum | in kmix I lowered event sounds and muted them |
| 15:16.34 | infandum | still a very loud harp noise |
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| 15:19.34 | infandum | rdieter: Is there a reason why kmix cannot mute event sounds? |
| 15:19.39 | infandum | in my case |
| 15:20.23 | Peace- | infandum: kde4 ? |
| 15:20.43 | infandum | Let me give an example: in system settings, in window behavior, if I change the policy of activating windows from click to hover, click on task switcher, a dialogue comes up asking if I want to apply or discard setting |
| 15:20.49 | infandum | LOUD harp noise happens then |
| 15:20.55 | infandum | plasma 5 |
| 15:23.44 | Peace- | infandum: if you set like rdieter said in kmix event sounds you should not get the sound |
| 15:24.00 | Peace- | i just tested here |
| 15:24.19 | rdieter | infandum: mute is global, it mutes all sounds, you cannot mute individual streams (though arguably setting volume to 0 is effectively the same thing) |
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| 15:25.29 | Peace- | btw rdieter kmix it's not a proper mixer |
| 15:25.31 | rdieter | infandum: and, mind you, prior to kde-runtime-15, there is a bug that maxes volumes on each event |
| 15:25.37 | Peace- | it doesn't handle well pulseaudio |
| 15:25.49 | rdieter | I think it handles pulse fine (for me) |
| 15:26.04 | Peace- | rdieter: veromix it's the must |
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| 15:26.12 | rdieter | infandum: there's been patches/workarounds for ages, which most distros provide, but maybe yours doesn't too |
| 15:26.13 | Peace- | rdieter: i mean you can't switch input sources |
| 15:26.20 | rdieter | Peace-: I can switch fine |
| 15:26.25 | Peace- | mm? |
| 15:26.37 | Peace- | wtf you right |
| 15:26.40 | rdieter | you mean like move streams from speakers to headset ? |
| 15:26.44 | Peace- | right click now i have seen |
| 15:26.49 | rdieter | yeah |
| 15:26.52 | Peace- | damn |
| 15:26.58 | Peace- | i did not see that stuff |
| 15:26.59 | Peace- | omg |
| 15:27.09 | Peace- | rdieter: :) nice chat i have to say with you |
| 15:27.11 | Peace- | xD |
| 15:27.39 | rdieter | veromix is nice too, if you like that, great. :) |
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| 15:28.55 | Peace- | rdieter: mmm unluckly ... it doesn't do the job rdieter |
| 15:29.15 | Peace- | i have just run my software and it doesnt appear on kmix |
| 15:29.17 | Peace- | :S |
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| 15:30.36 | dim33 | Hi looking for some support on how kde 5 desktops work in relation to xorg.conf |
| 15:31.57 | rdieter | dim33: as long as you have good driver support (for opengl), plasma5 should be happy |
| 15:32.13 | Peace- | rdieter: ok you right i was configuring bad the stuff |
| 15:32.19 | Peace- | NICE |
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| 15:54.39 | infandum | rdieter: Ah, definitely a bug. I muted everything, verified as clementine has no sound, but the loud harp noise still happens. |
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| 15:55.58 | rdieter | infandum: what distro and kde-runtime version ? |
| 15:56.16 | infandum | rdieter: Arch, and how do I check the runtime |
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| 15:56.52 | rdieter | I suspect you have unpatched (and buggy) kde-runtime then |
| 15:57.16 | infandum | possibly. I just used the default plasma 5 from the repos |
| 15:57.25 | rdieter | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324975 |
| 15:57.47 | rdieter | is the bug, if you want to include workaround patches yourself, since arch apparently doesn't |
| 15:57.56 | rdieter | or wait for kde-applications-15 to be released |
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| 15:58.07 | rdieter | which includes a fixed kde-runtime too |
| 15:58.10 | infandum | when will that be |
| 15:58.20 | rdieter | soon |
| 15:58.39 | infandum | allllllrighty then |
| 15:58.51 | rdieter | https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/15.04_Release_Schedule Apr 15 |
| 15:59.03 | infandum | that IS soon |
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| 16:03.16 | infandum | alright, well I'll wait for it. Thanks for your help! |
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| 17:18.24 | qdased | Hello! I hate keyboard layout switch in KDE. Can I disable it and use other tool? |
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| 17:22.11 | qdased | Hello! I hate keyboard layout switch in KDE. Can I disable it and use other tool? |
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| 17:28.21 | qdased | Hello! I hate keyboard layout switch in KDE. Can I disable it and use other tool? |
| 17:28.22 | qdased | Hello! I hate keyboard layout switch in KDE. Can I disable it and use other tool? |
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| 17:31.48 | tosky | qdased: not sure about your question (repeating it every few minutes wouldn't increase the likeness of an answer) |
| 17:32.06 | tosky | qdased: just don't use it; I don't know about alternative tools |
| 17:35.47 | qdased | tosky: OK. How to disable layout switching by Ctrl+Space. I can't work in IDE because I press Ctrl+Space and I want to get hint, but instead keyboard layout switchs. I doesn't find this setting nowhere. |
| 17:36.23 | tosky | qdased: is it Plasma 5 or the old one? |
| 17:36.54 | tosky | qdased: I don't have that shortcut associated with keyboard layout switch; did you try to change the shortcut? |
| 17:37.25 | qdased | tosky: 5, but on 4 it works just as on 5. |
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| 17:37.49 | tosky | qdased: I'm pretty sure you can change the shortcut and I'm pretty sure it's not the default shortcut |
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| 17:38.10 | tosky | qdased: check in system settings |
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| 17:42.27 | qdased | tocky: layout switching doesn't work at all on Plasma 5. On Plasma 4 it works only in Chrome. I tied to change all settings of keyboard. For swithing layout I bind hotkey to command "setxkbmap us". It is very inconveniently to use this. |
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| 17:43.20 | qdased | On other DEs it works properly. |
| 17:47.35 | tosky | qdased: layour switch does not depend on the browser, it's a global desktop shortcut |
| 17:48.03 | tosky | qdased: tried here (currently on Fedora 21), I have 4 layours and a custom shortcut for them - by default it was not set |
| 17:49.36 | qdased | tosky: In apps(without Chrome) I saw in tray icon of keyboard with tooltip: "Ni Input Method". |
| 17:49.54 | qdased | tosky: I use Ububntu 15.04 |
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| 17:50.13 | qdased | *Ubuntu |
| 17:50.18 | tosky | qdased: are we talking about the keyboard layout switcher or the input method switcher? If it is the latter, I don't use it, sorry |
| 17:51.21 | qdased | tosky: There is a difference? |
| 17:52.38 | tosky | yes |
| 17:53.06 | tosky | the input method switcher is a separate module, and I have little if not experience of it (dealing with latin languages...) |
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| 17:53.49 | qdased | tosky: Switching "us/ru" is input method switch or layout switch? |
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| 17:54.07 | tosky | qdased: the icon with the flag, that should be layout switch |
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| 17:56.07 | tosky | qdased: https://userbase.kde.org/File:KTouchConfigureKeyboardDialog.png |
| 17:56.40 | qdased | I click there (http://i.imgur.com/payfqRn.png) and nothing is change |
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| 17:59.48 | qdased | tosky: not "No Input Method", this tooltip says "No Input Window", I'm sorry |
| 18:00.51 | tosky | qdased: if you select "configure" (the last line in the popup, I guess), what is the switching policy? It's "global" in my system (but as I said, the old Plasma) |
| 18:00.59 | tosky | maybe your is per-Application |
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| 18:07.15 | qdased | tosky: the last line is "Configure Layouts". This is screnshot of this window: http://i.imgur.com/2nxZcYp.png. |
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| 18:08.00 | qdased | tosky: Yes, it "Global" |
| 18:08.50 | tosky | qdased: do I see a shortcut configured as main shortcut (top-right part)? |
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| 18:10.14 | qdased | tosky: OK: http://i.imgur.com/CCjTUnl.png |
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| 18:10.50 | qdased | tosky: CapsLcock and Alt+Shift do nothing |
| 18:11.04 | tosky | qdased: uhm |
| 18:11.28 | tosky | qdased: I can't check unfortunately; it could be either a global bug or a something related to the ubuntu-packaging |
| 18:11.45 | tosky | I would try to ask on kubuntu channels as well (as they do the packaging) |
| 18:12.36 | qdased | tosky: I use KUbuntu repos |
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| 18:13.56 | qdased | tosky: I google this issuse and I find that it is very often problem |
| 18:14.41 | tosky | try to see if there is a reported bug for that, then |
| 18:14.44 | tosky | needs to leave |
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| 18:43.25 | qdased | tosky: there is a solution? |
| 18:44.00 | tosky | qdased: I don't know, sorry; I don't have the environment to reproduce the problem |
| 18:45.28 | qdased | tosky: OK. Thank you very much |
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| 20:10.38 | diego_ | hello, I've noticed that when you type the full name of a program in the kickoff menu, usually two icons will show up: one customized ny the program and another "neutral". Are there any differences in the launch of the program? |
| 20:12.58 | troffasky | i think one is the menu system entry and the other is $PATH |
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| 20:13.35 | troffasky | it's entirely possible the menu file entry has extra parameters passed to it compared to the plain $PATH version |
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| 20:14.57 | diego_ | troffasky: so using the "neutral" icon is the same exact as to type the command in a terminal? |
| 20:15.20 | troffasky | sorry, don't take my word for it, i'm just guessing |
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| 21:38.48 | dexta | evening |
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| 23:57.54 | |aaron | does anyone here use lancelot? i have the widget display the category applets (applications, computer, etc). is there any way possible assign a global hotkey to these buttons? lancelot config doesnt support it unfortunately... |
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