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| 00:31.57 | ChALkeR | ow |
| 00:32.07 | ChALkeR | what happened to the breeze wallpaper? |
| 00:33.03 | ChALkeR | It's aliased, and the colors became too acid =) |
| 00:34.16 | Dattorz | I like it personally |
| 00:34.27 | Dattorz | Breeze windeco is now default, yay |
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| 00:34.58 | ChALkeR | Dattorz: Can you give me a screenshot? |
| 00:35.06 | ChALkeR | Mine is too aliased. |
| 00:35.28 | ChALkeR | Iz breeze deco fixed now, btw? |
| 00:35.30 | Dattorz | Oh I'm going by this https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.2/full-screen.png |
| 00:35.32 | ChALkeR | *Is |
| 00:35.55 | ChALkeR | Yours is aliased, too. See the white lines? |
| 00:36.43 | ChALkeR | Is breeze windeco fixed now? |
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| 00:38.48 | Dattorz | Hmmm |
| 00:38.58 | Dattorz | Presumably |
| 00:39.11 | Dattorz | Looks like window tabs won't be in 5.2 if you use those at all https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.2_Errata |
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| 00:41.26 | ChALkeR | in 5.1, breeze windeco had problems |
| 00:41.45 | Dattorz | Yes |
| 00:41.57 | ChALkeR | Ow. Oxygen windeco is missing in 5.2? |
| 00:42.23 | Dattorz | Eh, I'm personally not bothered. Would rather use Breeze |
| 00:42.33 | ChALkeR | Too huge. |
| 00:43.12 | Dattorz | It looks like they shrunk it actually |
| 00:43.12 | ChALkeR | How did you get yours that small? |
| 00:43.18 | Dattorz | Umm |
| 00:43.25 | Dattorz | That's the 5.2 beta release screenshot |
| 00:43.44 | ChALkeR | 5.1.95? |
| 00:43.48 | Dattorz | Yes |
| 00:43.50 | ChALkeR | That's what I got. |
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| 00:44.58 | ChALkeR | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/15/241.png |
| 00:46.31 | ChALkeR | That's with the «small» buttons (the minimum available setting). |
| 00:47.09 | ChALkeR | «normal» buttons look blurry. |
| 00:48.16 | ChALkeR | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/15/242.png â «normal» |
| 00:48.58 | Dattorz | Lower your DPI setting |
| 00:49.21 | ChALkeR | Probably dpi issues, yes. |
| 00:49.33 | ChALkeR | What is the dpi it looks fine with? |
| 00:49.38 | Dattorz | I don't recall the windeco being that large on normal |
| 00:50.11 | Dattorz | I have fonts forced to 96 dpi, not sure if that affects the global DPI used by Qt 5 apps |
| 00:50.24 | ChALkeR | I have global dpi forced to 120 |
| 00:50.50 | ChALkeR | I mean, the xorg dpi. |
| 00:51.28 | ChALkeR | Fonts are using that dpi, and some apps do. Some apps don't. |
| 00:51.55 | ChALkeR | Seems like Oxygen windeco didn't use the DPI setting, and the Breeze windeco tries to follow it. |
| 00:52.16 | ChALkeR | But everything starts being big and blurry. |
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| 00:55.49 | ChALkeR | setting qt5 style to breeze crashed konversation |
| 00:56.00 | ChALkeR | Did I miss anything? |
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| 00:58.13 | ChALkeR | And again. |
| 00:59.20 | ChALkeR | Ok, «small» window buttons look reasonable (but still bigger than oxygen). |
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| 01:12.00 | Dattorz | Only thing I can suggest is change your DPI settings |
| 01:12.18 | Dattorz | I just installed 5.1.95, set button size to small and I get buttons the same size as this screenshot |
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| 01:17.56 | DiscipleOfDante_ | Hello, I do not know which is the proper channel to ask in, but is homerun ported to Plasma 5 yet? |
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| 03:03.02 | salamanderrake | how can I find out why my desktop "Plasma 5.1.95" is black, no panel no anything, just this window and pidgin popup. |
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| 03:04.07 | valorie | sounds like plasmashell has crashed |
| 03:04.31 | valorie | you might try in krunner or konsole `plasmashell &` |
| 03:04.45 | valorie | should have autostarted though |
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| 03:11.09 | salamanderrake | valorie: where do I set them to autostart? |
| 03:11.31 | salamanderrake | I put linxs to /usr/bin/konsole in .kde*/Autostart |
| 03:11.35 | salamanderrake | but it did not work |
| 03:11.47 | salamanderrake | yeah plasmashell crashed |
| 03:12.06 | salamanderrake | Executable: plasmashell PID: 2554 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 14/01/2015 22:09:30 |
| 03:13.13 | salamanderrake | valorie: back trace, https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/8555d7f15e5ac1b583d7 |
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| 03:14.37 | valorie | salamanderrake: I'm not a plasma devel - you might want to ask on #plasma |
| 03:14.55 | salamanderrake | ah they got their own channel now? |
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| 03:19.32 | valorie | yes, very active chan, with many of the devels |
| 03:19.43 | valorie | however, it's very late in europe where most of them live |
| 03:19.50 | valorie | sorry, I was pinging out |
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| 03:21.47 | salamanderrake | network issues on freenode again it seems |
| 03:23.33 | Konomi | if it's not too much could anyone have a look at this debian bug report I posted, I really need some ideas on how to go about debugging a kde issue: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775338 thanks |
| 03:23.35 | valorie | this is all my side, and I wish I could figure out what the issue is |
| 03:26.53 | valorie | Konomi: I just tried Gramps, which is gtk, and the menus all work fine |
| 03:27.11 | Konomi | yeah it's only for my computers and a few people I know on debian |
| 03:27.20 | Konomi | the maintainer can't reproduce but I have tried everything I can think of |
| 03:27.39 | valorie | is on kubuntu |
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| 03:27.44 | Konomi | I know this effects more people than me |
| 03:28.04 | valorie | I am on 14.10, and am using plasma 5 |
| 03:28.16 | Konomi | I think I am still on plasma 4 |
| 03:28.20 | Konomi | debian in is freeze mode atm |
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| 04:03.40 | Konomi | finally I got somewhere |
| 04:03.52 | Konomi | if I edit this file /usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-3.0/gtk.css |
| 04:04.03 | Konomi | change -GtkComboBox-appears-as-list: 1; to -GtkComboBox-appears-as-list: 0; |
| 04:04.08 | Konomi | my combo boxes become functional again |
| 04:04.13 | Konomi | anyone got any ideas why x.x |
| 04:04.24 | Konomi | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321284 |
| 04:04.28 | Konomi | found it on a somewhat related bug report |
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| 04:58.19 | bk76 | hi |
| 04:58.44 | bk76 | how can I change screen settings of one of the users? |
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| 05:31.35 | jdeisenberg | Fedora 21, KDE 4.? -- Don't have a ~/.kde4 directory, btw. How do I add another screen resolution for my monitor? |
| 05:31.47 | jdeisenberg | I can't find anything relevant in /usr/share/X11 |
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| 05:43.15 | jdeisenberg | Ah. Found out that xrandr will do what I need. |
| 05:43.18 | ozjd | jdeisenberg: fedora uses the default ~/.kde |
| 05:43.50 | jdeisenberg | ozjd: Thanks. Still curious to know where the secret file is that has all the resolutions. |
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| 05:48.55 | ozjd | I think it shows the resolutions it detects, if it doesn't show the correct resolution for your monitor it probably means it isn't detected correctly |
| 05:50.07 | ozjd | jdeisenberg: btw there is a fedora-kde channel, Fedora 21 has 4.14.3 |
| 05:50.48 | jdeisenberg | Thanks. I have to set a resolution that the monitor doesn't "naturally" support (1280 x 720). |
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| 05:57.47 | jdeisenberg | Sorry; got disconnected. |
| 05:57.57 | jdeisenberg | Thanks again, ozjd. |
| 05:59.04 | ozjd | nps |
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| 06:25.49 | certem | My problem is I connect my "posts" but can't connect my "pages" on my blog. |
| 06:26.25 | certem | Either I couldn't find how to do it or the feature doesn't exist. |
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| 08:21.34 | Nijjan1 | -h Who likes this game ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-6em18g90 |
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| 08:56.52 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 09:33.47 | yossarianuk | why on earth does the 'split konsole' just mirror the terminal (i.e you don't have 2 separate instances - its just mirrored) |
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| 09:34.57 | lordievader | yossarianuk: Make a new tab. |
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| 09:38.12 | yossarianuk | I know of tabs - however that is not the same as a split view.. |
| 09:38.33 | yossarianuk | i.e -> view -> split view -> split left/right |
| 09:38.50 | yossarianuk | when you type it appears in both windows. |
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| 09:41.04 | usimha | yossarianuk: You can try terminator. |
| 09:42.53 | yossarianuk | yes, I know of terminator cheers - just wondering what use the mirror view is.... (can't imagine is used much..) |
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| 09:46.35 | binskipy | hey everyone.. |
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| 09:47.27 | binskipy | Anyone here, do you think a tri-core 2.1ghz w/6 gigs ram is enough to run the entire kde sc 4.14 w/o having slow down issues or bogging down the computer? |
| 09:49.15 | valorie | binskipy: what many do is burn an ISO to a thumbdrive, and test it |
| 09:49.25 | valorie | it's slower that way, but if everything works, go ahead and install |
| 09:49.25 | yossarianuk | binskipy: easily |
| 09:49.47 | yossarianuk | binskipy: although GPU can make the difference |
| 09:50.00 | binskipy | i remember kde 4.10 having issues w/ kmail, the pim suite, crashes, etc.. at least my experience |
| 09:50.22 | yossarianuk | binskipy: what distro are you going to try? |
| 09:50.23 | lordievader | yossarianuk: That is what I am saying, split-view -> new tab. Two different tabs in one konsole window. |
| 09:50.38 | binskipy | has that gotten considerably better since.. i'm an xfce user, but I am really liking what i'm reading about kde ,e tc and want to use the suite instead of thunderbird, pidgin, etc |
| 09:50.57 | binskipy | arch linux |
| 09:51.05 | BlaXpirit | you're in for a treat |
| 09:51.26 | binskipy | i'm on arch now, but i'd rather not "add" kde to xfce id rather do a clean install and just have one desktopenviornment on my computer |
| 09:51.55 | BlaXpirit | i probably would go for a switch on the same system |
| 09:52.08 | BlaXpirit | arch is very difficult to litter |
| 09:52.16 | BlaXpirit | package manager doesn't do magic |
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| 09:53.01 | yossarianuk | lordievader: thanks - i see you add tab - then split view... |
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| 09:56.59 | ob-sed | KDE is the Greatest Desktop Environment in the Universe binskipy |
| 09:57.07 | binskipy | hehe |
| 09:57.21 | binskipy | it's been over 2 years since i used it full time |
| 09:57.29 | binskipy | 4.8/4.10 i think |
| 09:57.47 | ob-sed | ah right |
| 09:57.50 | ob-sed | i have it in openSUSE |
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| 10:36.08 | abiogenesis | Hi there! Since #ktorrent is almost empty, I am asking here. Is Ktorrent being or will it ever be ported to KF5? I could not find any info about that. |
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| 10:38.20 | BlaXpirit | who cares |
| 10:38.24 | BlaXpirit | keep calm and use kde4 |
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| 10:38.43 | BlaXpirit | also, abiogenesis, i prefer qBittorrent |
| 10:39.41 | Jucato | that's a rather rude answer though. by asking the question, abiogenesis cares. |
| 10:40.03 | Jucato | abiogenesis: i can't see anything definite in the source code. unfortunately only the developer(s) can answer that |
| 10:42.44 | abiogenesis | Juan, since the last release was 2 years ago, I guess they did not plan any further development.. |
| 10:42.55 | abiogenesis | sorry, Jucato |
| 10:43.04 | Jucato | last release? |
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| 10:43.47 | abiogenesis | Ktorrent 4.3.1 released on 01/17/2013, no news after that |
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| 10:44.48 | Jucato | i guess yes if you look only at release versions/dates. there's definitely activity in code. why they don't make a release, i don't know |
| 10:45.02 | Jucato | check https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent/repository for signs of life |
| 10:45.27 | Jucato | a bit sporadic, but it's not dead |
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| 10:48.50 | abiogenesis | Yes, looks like there are active maintainers |
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| 11:37.49 | DrAwkward | Hi there. I am a newbie, and I have gone through the KDE starters manual. What should I be doing next? |
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| 11:43.03 | abiogenesis | DrAwkward, launch different programs, look through their preferences windows, click here and there and try everything until nothing is left to explore. |
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| 11:43.52 | ob-sed | yep |
| 11:44.01 | ob-sed | i am an advanced expert |
| 11:44.11 | ob-sed | and i liked going through every single setting and option in systemsettings |
| 11:44.23 | ob-sed | but as a newbie i dunno if that interests u |
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| 11:44.34 | ob-sed | prob shouldnt be randomly changing those settings too hehe |
| 11:44.40 | ob-sed | but launching various apps sounds good |
| 11:45.31 | ob-sed | i liked making my Panels look like gnome 2.30 too </heresy> |
| 11:45.36 | ob-sed | you know, one line at top and bottom etc |
| 11:46.06 | ob-sed | i made it abit different tho, bottom Panel is for open apps only |
| 11:46.11 | ob-sed | and virtual desktops is near top right etc |
| 11:46.22 | DrAwkward | I have been using KDE for sometime now. So I was reading through the tutorials on the kde website, and was trying to make my Hello World program using KmessageBox |
| 11:46.26 | ob-sed | K menu is top left |
| 11:46.43 | ob-sed | setting up keyboard shortcuts was nice too |
| 11:47.24 | ob-sed | your not a newbie :P |
| 11:47.49 | DrAwkward | I ask this because I want to start developing with KDE. And I am a newbie as far as development is concerned. |
| 11:48.45 | abiogenesis | Probably look here https://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/development |
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| 11:52.14 | DrAwkward | @abiogenesis i have read that. So where do I get started to become familiar with the KDE codebase. Like common classes used, and common methods called in each KDE application? |
| 11:53.13 | DrAwkward | I have QtCreator installed, and am familiar with git |
| 11:53.23 | abiogenesis | http://api.kde.org/ this one? |
| 11:56.12 | DrAwkward | thanks :) |
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| 12:00.47 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
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| 12:03.51 | DrAwkward | By the way here is a fun fact. Dr.Awkward is a palindrome. ;P |
| 12:05.00 | ob-sed | yay |
| 12:06.28 | abiogenesis | http://blog.llvm.org/ does it load? I get only "it works!" |
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| 13:15.18 | DrAwkward | How do I configure my build environment? What all do i need other than CMake, git, and qt? |
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| 13:25.56 | sundcmp | hi there! Can anyone tell me how how to change the mouse action that opens a note on the desktop with the contents of the clipboard? I can't find this in KDE version 3.4.3 (it's there in 4.11.5) |
| 13:26.51 | DrAwkward | Also can anyone share links/videos/books that talk about the could help a newbie help into open source development? |
| 13:27.57 | sundcmp | sorry, I meant that I'm looking for this mous action in KDE version 4.3.4 |
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| 13:32.48 | abiogenesis | DrAwkward, have you ever programmed for Linux (or whatever OS you run KDE on)? |
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| 13:33.54 | DrAwkward | No I haven't programmed for Linux before. I have written code, but I have never written code for an application in Linux. |
| 13:34.36 | Jucato | DrAwkward: https://www.flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/ might help |
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| 13:37.29 | DrAwkward | Thanks Jucato. :) |
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| 13:38.14 | DrAwkward | So suppose I am solving a bug listed under the 'junior jobs' section, do I need to build KDE from scratch for that? |
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| 13:44.29 | abiogenesis | DrAwkward, probably checkout the sources and build a debug version |
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| 14:33.00 | friese | hi guys, is there an on-screen keyboard hidden somewhere in plasma 5? i'm missing one (used plasmaboard plasmoid on kde 4 before) for my convertible tablet |
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| 14:34.12 | Sho_ | friese: no |
| 14:34.24 | Sho_ | friese: plasma active uses maliit forit |
| 14:34.37 | friese | hmm okay |
| 14:34.45 | friese | so i'll have a look into that |
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| 14:38.48 | friese | humm, maliit looks quite dead tbh... |
| 14:39.17 | Sho_ | i've seen it work recently, but yeah overall the state of FOSS virtual keyboard frameworks looks pretty bad |
| 14:39.33 | Sho_ | it's not helped by the fact that Digia keeps an entire nice framework for Qt Quick closed-source to sell more licenses |
| 14:40.08 | friese | humm, they need to make money somehow? which makes me wonder... what does my jolla use? |
| 14:40.26 | Sho_ | i just had the same thought actually ... "wonder what jolla uses" |
| 14:40.34 | Sho_ | maliit was originally written for meego, which sailfish is derived from |
| 14:41.03 | friese | okay, got some maliit folders on mine |
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| 14:41.49 | friese | yep, maliit-server running there |
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| 14:42.14 | Sho_ | what I find suspicious about maliit is that it seems to duplicate all the work done in ibus & co |
| 14:42.23 | Sho_ | e.g. it has its own korean input engine using libhangul |
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| 14:42.37 | Sho_ | instead of just being a dumb keyboard event generator |
| 14:43.11 | Sho_ | there's a lot of gpl stuff (instead of lgpl) in ibus, so maybe it's for license reasons as well given device people are weird about that |
| 14:43.12 | friese | well if it works - i ain't complaining ;) |
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| 14:43.43 | Sho_ | friese: I'm actually not sure it does though, iirc I couldn't get Korean to work on Sailfish |
| 14:44.14 | friese | was talking more about getting it to work at all - simple german keyboard layout is enough to make me happy |
| 14:44.40 | Sho_ | https://openrepos.net/tags/korean looks like third-parties have worked on it though |
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| 18:37.40 | Andy2_ | Hi, can someone suggest a livecd where i can test plasma 5.2? |
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| 18:44.00 | Sho_ | Andy2_: The Kubuntu community makes a "KCI" ISO every week that contains the latest git code |
| 18:44.08 | Sho_ | Andy2_: That of course means it might have fun bugs |
| 18:44.26 | Andy2_ | Sho_: ok cool, any idea where to get it? I just found out of date isos |
| 18:45.08 | Sho_ | Andy2_: not sure where the overview is because i'm on a mailing list that gets mails about it |
| 18:45.16 | Sho_ | Andy2_: http://pangea-data.s3.amazonaws.com/kci/images/amd64/20150109-1640/kubuntu-plasma5-201501091640-amd64.iso <- is the amd64 iso from last friday |
| 18:45.35 | Andy2_ | great thx |
| 18:45.40 | Sho_ | new ISO tomorrow, though |
| 18:46.07 | Andy2_ | ok i will check if i find a forum post or something |
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| 18:47.19 | whazzup | hey since you can make pretty much any desktop environment look like you want, change the menu entries and everything (the big ones all are very customable)..what difference does the desktop environment make? |
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| 18:49.52 | octocpp | vevery time an even sound goes, it cranks my sound volumes all the way up to 100%? what would cause this? |
| 18:49.54 | octocpp | event |
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| 18:50.25 | octocpp | even when I do the test sound in kde settings |
| 18:52.49 | rdieter_work | octocpp: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324975 |
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| 18:54.38 | octocpp | rdieter_work: thanks, did this get fixed in 4.14? |
| 18:55.25 | rdieter_work | octocpp: fix included in kde applications 15.04 (not released yet) |
| 18:55.44 | octocpp | is there a work around? |
| 18:55.54 | rdieter_work | but the referenced commit should apply without too much work against kde-runtime-4.14.x sources |
| 18:55.55 | octocpp | turn off knotifications ir something? |
| 18:56.38 | rdieter_work | most distros include one of the other workarounds mentioned in that bug |
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| 18:59.53 | octocpp | oh, sorry, I didnt notice the work around. |
| 19:00.07 | octocpp | Im in arch, good luck to me lol |
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