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01:48.59austin6598can i change the icons that appear in the task manager launcher
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02:23.09*** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.14 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
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04:11.22salamanderrakeif I install apps in /opt/ or /usr/local how do I set up KDEDIR(and etc) and run kbuildsycoca5?
04:11.51thiagoKDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local:/opt/whatever
04:11.59salamanderrakeok
04:12.09thiagoXDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share:/usr/local/share:/opt/whatever/share
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04:14.57salamanderrakejust rerun kbuildsycoca5 and /opt/whatever is not showing up in ~/.cache/ksycoca5 cache file.
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05:29.57guestingHow can I run the tablet mode of plasma 5?
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06:38.58lewis1711whenever KDE apps try to display a notification, I get a large bust of white noise. why? (this is really hard to google about. sound works, but this happens)
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08:06.42CaterpillarI cannot find the filename of the arrow icon next to the clock, that shows hidden icons. I need to include it in the Fedora KDE Plasma guide I am writing
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10:31.01nedrdvratil: hi, just installing plasma-5 from your repo into fedora 20, found that error:
10:31.22nedrTransaction check error:
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10:32.14nedrAfter removing ksysguard using yum remove all works fine
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12:26.24voltykde-4.13, how can I change the tooltips colors?
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12:43.46voltykde-4.13, how can I change the tooltips colors?
12:45.32cb400fif you mean the taskbar tooltips, you can't.. you can only switch/modify the plasma desktop theme
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12:46.23voltycb400f: I mean desktop-wide - for all the applications
12:48.11cb400fsystemsettings -> application appearance -> colours -> colours tab -> tooltip background
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12:51.25voltycb400f: thx, got nervous, and was trying to modify the svg in the desktop theme.
12:54.24voltybut ppl there's something wrong with designers, imo. Why this epidemia of light colors on dark backgrounds on a screen (html, docs, colors ...) that is dark on white? They do not understand that such schemes do not have sense? They do not understand that it is tiresome to read those inverted-color things ?
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14:03.58dawnsoni have a strange problem with konsole: http://imgur.com/gafCnt4
14:04.12dawnsonthe cursor always gets displayed too far off to the right oO
14:08.11dawnsonhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=187003 same problem
14:09.23dawnsonah looks like it is this one: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215937
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14:12.00dawnsonstupid bug >_> works with another font
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14:28.04riddim_Hi, I have moved /usr/share/
14:29.30riddim_Hi I have moved ~/.kde4 to ~/.kde4_bak Now I can not open "configure desktop" in opensuse 13.1. Do you have suggestions how to fix this?
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14:41.52cb400friddim_: run 'systemsettings' in konsole and look for errors
14:42.34cb400fdid you move .kde4/ as root perhaps? .. maybe there are some issues with writability of the relevant locations for the user
14:43.50riddim_no errors, nothing happened
14:44.05riddim_no i did it with ctrl+alt+f2
14:44.12riddim_in tty2
14:44.29riddim_ok thanks. I will try it again
14:45.35riddim_My underlying problem is: the alt + tab, alt + f4,.... combinations are not working due to my neo2 keyboard layout.
14:46.39riddim_on my laptop everything works fine. If I add to the default keyboard layout the neo2  layout, alt + tab,.... is not working anymore
14:47.30riddim_p.s. when I copied no error occured
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14:50.43riddim_ok I killed systemsettings and its back again
14:52.45riddim_Do you have suggestions according to my alt + tab, alt + f4,... behaviour? The keys are recognized and even changing them in task switcher does not help
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15:13.22flipapyin ubuntu when i held 'cntrl-alt- and pressed tab it went through my open programs to shift through faster instewad of using the mouse. what is the short cut for kde mint 17? ctrl-alt-tab doesnt work
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15:19.09rindolfflipapy: maybe try Alt+Tab and Alt+Shift+Tab.
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15:29.35Leoneofi cannot receive files from smartphone->pc, via bluetooth
15:29.53Leoneofit was working last week
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15:30.01Leoneofbut not today
15:30.15Leoneofi did restart the computer, still same problem
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15:40.48fdittmerHallo, I am using KDE 4.14.3 on Gentoo. I am currently in the progress of migrating from Firefox to Konqueror. One issue I have, that the automatic spellchecker in Konqueror does not work. I assume that Konqueror has the ability to underline (red line) misspelled words in input fields or textareas? Spell checking in general works (using the context-menu iva right mouse button) in Konqueror. And automatic spell checking works in other apps (
15:40.49fdittmernamely Kwrite). I have enabled "automatic spellchecking" both in Konqueror as well as global KDE settings. Any ideas?
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16:41.55BlaXpiritfdittmer, Konqueror is not... good...
16:42.05BlaXpiritjust pretty much abandoned
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16:48.29salamanderrakewhat would cause kbuildsycoca5 to ignore KDEDIRS?
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16:51.41fdittmerBlaXpirit, but still it is the default browser in KDE. Do you think Rekonq or something else is a better option? I like Konqueror, because it feels more fluid and lightweight than Firefox
16:52.04BlaXpiritRekonq at least uses an engine that can display websites properly
16:53.03fdittmerhmm, Konqueror with Webkit does its job for me (I had more trouble with KHTML engine). But I might give Rekonq a try then
16:53.10BlaXpiritwait what
16:53.18BlaXpiritKonqueror can do WebKit?
16:53.27BlaXpiritthen disregard what I said
16:53.59BlaXpiritbut yeah, do give Rekonq a try
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16:56.49dittmerBlaXpirit, sorry, I was disconnected.
16:57.16BlaXpirit[:53:08] <BlaXpirit> wait what [:53:16] <BlaXpirit> Konqueror can do WebKit? [:53:25] <BlaXpirit> then disregard what I said [:53:57] <BlaXpirit> but yeah, do give Rekonq a try
16:57.36dittmerYes, konqueror can use WebKit.
16:58.22salamanderrakedoes anyone know why kbuildsycoca5 ignores KDEDIRS system var?
16:58.45dittmerwell, I opened a bug on bugzilla... let's see if someone over there can help with the spellchecking issue. Thanks anyway!
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17:01.42salamanderrakedoes anyone know how to get kbuildsycoca5 to recognize KDEDIRS?
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17:15.26RakkoWeird question: does anyone know where the source of reaktivate is nowadays? (It was a Konq plugin allowing limited use of ActiveX, through Wine.)
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18:15.28rdietersalamanderrake: I *think* kf5 supports the XDG-related env vars instead, including XDG_DATA_DIRS
18:15.44salamanderrakeoh
18:15.48salamanderrakeok thanks
18:16.03rdietersalamanderrake: for example, see https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building
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18:27.27salamanderrakerdieter: still didn't help
18:28.59salamanderrakehttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/0d432a3215ad65f519fc
18:29.18salamanderrakererun kbuildsycoca5 --noincremental and it did not update anything.
18:29.42salamanderrakeand kdevelop still can not find any of the .rc files.
18:33.52salamanderrakekbuildsycoca5 still refuses to look under /opt/kdevelop
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18:37.51salamanderrakeyay
18:37.56salamanderrakeI had to source the file
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18:52.06salamanderrakethank you rdieter
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19:10.30salamanderrakeI have a debug build of kdevelop but it will never showe the debug info it only shows the numbers
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21:33.19krzxomg with the black pearl theme how to change the tip text color
21:33.24krzxits like black on black
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23:04.11salamanderrakeis there something I need to do special for kde apps to  output get debug output in gdb?
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23:05.50zewmAny idea how to get numix working? I installed it via the ppa but it doesn't show up anywhere. I've checked all the appearance / window settings.
23:05.57rdietersalamanderrake: ensure you have debuginfo for the "kde apps" (and supporting libraries)
23:06.01zewmI installed both the gtk2 and kde packages
23:06.33rdietersalamanderrake: depending on what you mean exactly by 'get debug output', but I'm assuming you mean better backtrace information
23:06.55salamanderrakerdieter: yes
23:07.47salamanderrakethis is what I get with KDevelop5 and KDevPlatform5 built with the Debug build.
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23:57.55rdietersalamanderrake: are you debugging kdevelop?
23:58.09salamanderrakeyeah trying to
23:58.23salamanderrakethere is a plugin that is causing a crash on my system
23:58.25rdieterand gdb still gives bad backtraces?
23:59.10rdietermind posting an example?

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