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| 00:50.28 | Two_Dogs | is there a sane way to disable akonadi-notes-agent? i assume that agent is related to knotes/kjots and i dont use or have either installed? |
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| 06:00.24 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 06:09.53 | shal3r | Is it possible that some kde widgets are running while not visible on any of active panels/screens? |
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| 06:13.48 | hateball | shal3r: ýes, the bouncing ball is a nice example of a plasmoid going into hiding |
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| 06:14.58 | shal3r | hateball, and what to do about them? |
| 06:15.32 | hateball | they can be murdered through editing plasmarc iirc |
| 06:15.40 | hateball | or kderc ? hmm |
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| 07:06.59 | emeric | Hello folks! Is there a dedicated channel for KDE activity manager? |
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| 07:27.32 | valorie | emeric: #plasma is probably closest, but you can ask here as well |
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| 07:29.33 | emeric | Thanks Valorie, |
| 07:29.44 | emeric | I have an application running in an activity. When closing the activity, I was expecting the application to terminate. Isn't it the case anymore? |
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| 12:43.43 | Walex | AndrzejL: I wouldn't worry, everybody from the NSA to Google to the Ykuza have bots logging and indexing all IRC channels |
| 12:47.10 | AndrzejL | NOOOoooooOOOOoooOOOOO! :P |
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| 12:49.15 | Walex | AndrzejL: well, you already know that everything you post online to IRC is being recorded for the purpose of being used against you if you ever make trouble to be noticed, so have a nice day :-) |
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| 12:52.05 | AndrzejL | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.06 | AndrzejL | | \| | ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ | || |/ |/ || ||_ ) |
| 12:52.06 | AndrzejL | | .` |/ _ \/ _ \/ _ \/ _ \/ _ \/ _ \/ _ \|_||_|| || ||_| / / |
| 12:52.06 | AndrzejL | |_|\_|\___/\___/\___/\___/\___/\___/\___/(_)(_)|_||_|(_)/___| |
| 12:52.08 | AndrzejL | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:52.38 | AndrzejL | Walex: did You know that now they are scanning / mapping the entire internet? |
| 12:52.53 | AndrzejL | if not - google NSA + nmap + hacienda |
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| 12:53.20 | Walex | AndrzejL: yes, I said, for the purpose of using it against you if your ever make trouble... |
| 12:53.36 | AndrzejL | Thanks Obama... |
| 12:54.06 | AndrzejL | Oh well I am already an extremist in their eyes... I was searching for tor related info and I was reading Linux Journal at some stage |
| 12:54.16 | Walex | AndrzejL: never mind the diabolical KDE SeKret Kabal who monitor this channel to identify anti-KDE agents :-) |
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| 12:54.30 | AndrzejL | teehee |
| 12:55.02 | AndrzejL | I expect one day I will wake up with my hamsters head under the duvet ;) |
| 12:55.12 | Walex | I'd suggest donating to the KDE fund to stay on their "good user" list. I donate a 50-100 euros every year. |
| 12:55.18 | AndrzejL | I dont have a horse so hamster will have to do it |
| 12:55.33 | AndrzejL | I cant afford tha |
| 12:55.34 | AndrzejL | t |
| 12:55.42 | AndrzejL | I am supporting Polish students once a year |
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| 12:56.08 | Walex | good good |
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| 12:56.33 | BluesKaj | Hiya folks |
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| 12:56.51 | AndrzejL | this year I have sent a donation to a young fella who is not exactly flushed with cash - brilliant php programmer - 17 years old - I have sent him few months of vps hosting fees |
| 12:57.06 | Walex | I also donate to Debian and Ubuntu, and the FSF etc. If you want this awesome stuff to continue existing, grease the wheels of free sw. |
| 12:57.18 | AndrzejL | its so weird |
| 12:57.21 | AndrzejL | Hi BluesKaj |
| 12:57.44 | BluesKaj | Hi AndrzejL |
| 12:57.46 | AndrzejL | Walex: we wouldnt pay a penny to Microsoft and yet we are sending money to free / open projects... |
| 12:58.04 | AndrzejL | this must be some sort of scam ;D |
| 12:58.15 | AndrzejL | they tricked us... OH WAIT ;) |
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| 12:58.42 | AndrzejL | btw |
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| 12:59.10 | AndrzejL | since yesterday... https://andrzejl.eu is 6 times faster - by the end of this month it should be 14 times faster ;) |
| 12:59.30 | houms | is there a way to type the same command in two different konsole sessions at the same time? basically have two tabs side-by-side and when you type commands in one it also types in the other? |
| 12:59.54 | AndrzejL | Not that I know off... |
| 13:04.46 | hateball | houms: local sessions? |
| 13:06.00 | houms | hateball i assume you ask as it is possible with local vs remote (ssh) |
| 13:06.02 | houms | ? |
| 13:06.02 | BluesKaj | houms, copy and paste :) |
| 13:06.25 | houms | that is hilariously unfunny BluesKaj :P |
| 13:06.42 | hateball | houms: well there are solutions for ssh sessions, like dsh |
| 13:06.48 | houms | or pssh? |
| 13:07.21 | houms | i was hoping for something a little more streamlined, but I guess this is to imply it is not currently possible? |
| 13:07.25 | BluesKaj | well,it was an attempt at humour since your request seems odd :) |
| 13:07.38 | hateball | I'm guessing you could pull it off with dbus somehow |
| 13:08.04 | hateball | even then, you'd need to know details of the konsole windows/processes |
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| 13:09.24 | hateball | houms: a quick google gives http://blog.lysender.com/2012/12/running-same-command-on-multiple-terminals-konsole/ |
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| 13:14.15 | houms | thanks hateball, that is exactly what i was looking for. even has a keyboard shortcut and all |
| 13:15.01 | houms | no the request for humor was spot on BluesKaj, I was just replying with snark... having said that I do not think this request is particularly odd |
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| 13:16.04 | Walex | houms: usually requests like yours are misguided attempts to do something the wrong way |
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| 13:20.39 | BluesKaj | houms, been on this chat for a few yrs now, but never heard that request before |
| 13:25.07 | BluesKaj | houms, but if the url thar hateball posted helps, then all the better :) |
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| 13:26.32 | houms | Walex well probably not in this case |
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| 13:29.58 | Walex | houms: so you would say :-) |
| 13:31.42 | Walex | houms: houms I am dismayed that Konsole has a paste-to-many-tabs feature, because it was probably designed to be a bad way of doing parallel commands on multiple hosts, which should be done as someone elese suggested with a well designed parallel shell. But then somtimes people don't have the time or will do use those... |
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| 13:32.50 | mva|de | Hi there! ;) |
| 13:33.58 | houms | Walex so you would say :P |
| 13:34.28 | Walex | :-) |
| 13:34.37 | mva|de | I just noticed okular ignores print settings (for example, colour mode) when printing. Looks like https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252596 but it does the same even when I trying to print on the paper |
| 13:34.58 | hateball | yeah too bad having the option of doing it, may as well remove it and call it Gnomesole |
| 13:36.26 | Guest21892 | Hello together, I just upgraded my Linux Mint 13 after 2 years to the new Mint 17 featuring KDE 4.13. First quick question: Is Konqueror not meant to be an advanced file-manager anymore ? |
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| 13:47.00 | hagabaka | how can I bind PrintScreen to a different program than ksnapshot? I can't find it in global shortcuts, and ksnapshots doesn't seem to have settings |
| 13:48.15 | hagabaka | oh, I just need to create a new shortcut |
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| 14:09.18 | JackWinter | i'm having somewhat erratic results with phonon/vlc/pulseaudio. quite often it goes tits up when i restart the pulse daemon. is possibly gstreamer beter supported as a backend, or is there a new phonon that has native pulse support? though i suppose pulse doesn't have the functionality to work as a backend to kde. or is it a question that i have to configure vlc itself for things to work better? |
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| 14:11.12 | rdieter | JackWinter: if things go bad when you restart pulseaudio, then dont restart pulseaudio :) |
| 14:12.13 | rdieter | both backends should be pretty good these days, though phonon devs recommend vlc as default. trying gstreamer couldnt hurt |
| 14:12.32 | JackWinter | rdieter: well there is no other way to reconfigure the pulse daemon.. |
| 14:12.42 | rdieter | reconfigure... what? |
| 14:13.09 | rdieter | thats not something one should need to do often in general |
| 14:13.35 | rdieter | ideally never, otherwise once |
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| 14:13.54 | JackWinter | i'm trying to get it to play nice with the jackd audio daemon that i often use, so in order to change the configuration of the pulse daemon i simply have to restart it... |
| 14:15.06 | JackWinter | well i suppose in the worst case i have to restart X/kdm totally, but that seems very unsophisticated on a unix system :) |
| 14:15.57 | JackWinter | or maybe it's a question that i have to reconfigure vlc itself? i installed pulse yesterday so have really limited understanding of how all the components work together... |
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| 14:17.56 | rdieter | #kde-multimedia may be able to offer better advice then, no experiece with jackd myself |
| 14:18.18 | rdieter | (or your distro, since this is an integration issue) |
| 14:20.47 | JackWinter | rdieter: it's archlinux so i'm the integrator :) thanks for the tip about #kde-multimedia, i was just doing /list to see what more specific group might be better suited. takes a long time on 128 kbs though |
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| 14:21.29 | JackWinter | but this doesn't really concern jackd at all. it's just kde and pulse that's beeing a bit unstable for me |
| 14:21.45 | Cymew | JackWinter: If you are trying to get jackd and pulseaudio to talk to each other, there are some work ahead of you. |
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| 14:23.08 | JackWinter | Cymew: that actually kinda worked well out of the box, except that i have to use really migh latency. just start jack2-dbus and it crackles abit and starts playing again |
| 14:23.28 | JackWinter | or rather continues playing |
| 14:23.54 | Cymew | ok, good for you. I had to use AV-linux in order not to kill myself |
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| 14:26.11 | JackWinter | Cymew: there is a protocol agreed upon by the jackd and pulse devs that makes pulse cede the hardware to jack, and then pulse plugin that connects a stereo source/sink to the jack daemon. when you quite jack then pulse aquires the hardware again and continues playing. though that was buggy for a long time, but appears to work fine nowdays |
| 14:26.56 | Cymew | So they have ironed out the bugs? That's good news! |
| 14:26.59 | JackWinter | ok, i won't boor you anymore in this channel. will try #kde-multimedia and more google :) |
| 14:27.23 | JackWinter | seems like it. with jack1 it's a different story though, as that has no dbus support... |
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| 14:28.37 | JackWinter | Cymew: iirc the problem was that pulse would cede the hardware and then respawn and grab it again before jack got around to it :) |
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| 14:34.53 | hansfer89 | what's the difference between kde5 and plasma-next? |
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| 14:35.32 | bshah | there is neither kde5 nor plasma-next but plasma5.. |
| 14:35.39 | hansfer89 | I'm using opensuse factory, and there are 2 repos for plasma-next and other 2 for kde-5 |
| 14:35.45 | hansfer89 | https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repositories#Plasma_Next |
| 14:36.00 | bshah | ah.. |
| 14:36.28 | bshah | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.38 | hansfer89 | i gess those are beta (or alpha) |
| 14:36.42 | hansfer89 | ah, ok |
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| 14:37.21 | hansfer89 | i'm using plasma-next, but i'll switch to kde5, too many bugs |
| 14:37.41 | bshah | report them.. :) |
| 14:37.58 | bshah | reporting bugs will make sure it gets fixed in next release.. :) |
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| 14:39.31 | hansfer89 | sorry, i re-read and got the difference. "KF5 packages are coinstallable with KDE SC 4 and Qt 4" |
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| 14:45.26 | hansfer89 | there's 1 bug that annoy me the most, kwin freezes (but i can move the mouse, but in the screen nothing that the cursor changes) until I press ctrl+tab (if i used the mouse it will show anything i did, like close a window, after that) |
| 14:45.53 | hansfer89 | but it doesn't leave any trace, or crash window |
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| 14:58.25 | Naphatul | how can i programatically access the currently focused window? |
| 14:59.09 | Sho_ | Naphatul: KWindowSystem::activeWindow() |
| 14:59.15 | Sho_ | http://api.kde.org/frameworks-api/frameworks5-apidocs/kwindowsystem/html/classKWindowSystem.html |
| 15:01.47 | Naphatul | Sho_: i was looking more at finding out that info from bash/python |
| 15:01.59 | Sho_ | Naphatul: xdotool or wmctrl are useful, then |
| 15:02.32 | Sho_ | for bash/CLI, that is |
| 15:02.39 | Sho_ | for Python, you could use KWindowSystem via the PyKDE bindings |
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| 15:08.51 | Naphatul | Sho_: thanks, xdotool looks like what i'm looking for |
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| 16:42.57 | acebulf | hey guys, I have a bug and I'm not sure who/what is responsible, and who to submit a bug report to |
| 16:43.19 | shadeslayer | acebulf: if it's a bug in kde software, bugs.kde.org |
| 16:43.26 | shadeslayer | acebulf: packaging bugs go to your distro |
| 16:43.32 | acebulf | basically when I open emacs in fullscreen there's a part of the screen that isn't filled |
| 16:43.50 | acebulf | I'm not sure if the DE is responsible for screen filling |
| 16:44.03 | shadeslayer | screen filling? |
| 16:44.13 | Sho_ | acebulf: I think that's classic emacs behavior |
| 16:44.18 | Sho_ | it only scales by row/columns of text |
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| 16:44.26 | acebulf | ah ok |
| 16:44.32 | Sho_ | you can probably hit a keyboard combo with 20 buttons to change it |
| 16:44.42 | acebulf | lol i was about to say something like that |
| 16:44.45 | Sho_ | :) |
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| 16:44.52 | acebulf | also: "it's not a bug, it's a feature" |
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| 16:54.53 | KWhat_Work | Anyone know of a qt front end for kvm that is actively maintained? |
| 16:56.23 | Sho_ | if virtualbox has KVM support I guess that technically would count |
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| 17:47.34 | lns | KWhat_Work, http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Management_Tools - this is a big list of KVM GUIs, not sure if there's a qt-specific one in there, but I just discovered this list the other day |
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| 19:34.22 | Vixxo | hi guys, I'm running opensuser 13.1 with KDE and I would like to know how I can use GPG key in Kwallet. I remember in manjaro It asks me if I would like to use that key, here I can't. Do I have to install an extra package ? |
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| 19:42.42 | frlttrwrd | i have a view hundred files with a "day.month.year_hour-minute-second" timestamp in the filename. is there a way to get dolphin to sort those correctly without renaming them? |
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| 19:47.22 | Sho_ | frlttrwrd: not without writing some code |
| 19:47.30 | Sho_ | (at which point you could also write some code to rename them) |
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| 19:52.57 | frlttrwrd | ok, thank you |
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| 21:36.58 | mozzarella | is kde 5 out? |
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| 21:40.25 | demm | mozzarella: good explanation how things are from now on http://kde.org/announcements/4.14/ |
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| 21:48.13 | mozzarella | demm: when will IÂ be able to use plasma 5 on fedora? |
| 21:49.11 | demm | mozzarella: best ask in #fedora, but I'm pretty sure you can use frameworks and plasma 5 right now in fedora |
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| 23:30.56 | mozzarella | guys |
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| 23:50.11 | AndrzejL | whats up Cheesy fella? |
| 23:50.17 | AndrzejL | I mean mozzarella |
| 23:50.18 | AndrzejL | :D |
| 23:50.22 | AndrzejL | I even rhyme... |
| 23:50.24 | AndrzejL | ;D |
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| 23:52.56 | mozzarella | AndrzejL: is kde 5 production ready? doesn't seem to be available on fedora |
| 23:52.58 | mozzarella | http://i.imgur.com/tX6Oh9Y.png |
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| 23:56.10 | AndrzejL | mozzarella: I am gonna say yes and no. |
| 23:56.51 | AndrzejL | Kde 5 was released as "stable" but the distro developpers were asked to hold off with upgrades until versions 5.1 or 5.2 |
| 23:57.28 | AndrzejL | this is probably why Fedora (which I dont recall as a bleeding edge distro) does not provides it in stable repositories. |
| 23:58.03 | AndrzejL | Have You tried testing repo (if such thing exists in Fedora - as a Arch Linux user I know nothing of their repos). |
| 23:58.31 | AndrzejL | My personal opinion - KDE5 is not ready for prime time yet or at least it wasnt few weeks ago. |
