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| 01:04.48 | mahem1_ | Hey all, so I am having this wierd issue with kWin key bindings using the "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" app. Is this the right place to ask? |
| 01:05.30 | Sho_ | yes |
| 01:08.19 | mahem1_ | Sho_: Well, for kWin I had the "Switch one desktop to the <direction>" commands mapped to the keys h, j, k, and l. And this has all been working fine for years now. But now the binding for the h key suddenly got unbound (h goes left) but j, k, and l still work. |
| 01:08.50 | mahem1_ | Sorry, I mean Ctr + Alt + h |
| 01:10.07 | mahem1_ | So when I try to rebind it I press Ctr + Alt + h but the bind just ends up being Ctr + h. I really have no idea what is going on as Ctr + Alt + <any other key> works. |
| 01:10.43 | mahem1_ | If this means anything, the problem seemed to occur when I was in a http://quickscreenshare.com/ seesion with a friend. (But that isn't a certainty) |
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| 01:12.31 | mahem1_ | Any ideas? |
| 01:15.56 | Sho_ | mahem1_: hm not really sorry .. |
| 01:16.34 | mahem1_ | Hmmm, anywhere else I could ask around? #ubuntu maybe? |
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| 02:08.50 | Arrgh | Hey dvratil, do you have a few minutes to help troubleshoot KDE5/F20? :) |
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| 02:12.02 | Arrgh | Hmm, kdeinit5 reports "Could not find drkonqi at /usr//usr/libexec/drkonqi" |
| 02:12.11 | Arrgh | There's an extra prefix there |
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| 02:23.54 | Jucato | Arrgh: perhaps in #fedora-kde but you might want to check your $PATH too |
| 02:24.35 | Arrgh | I tried removing stuff from my PATH, didn't seem to help... A bunch of the KF5 binaries seem to have /usr//usr compiled in, probably just some kind of transient problem. :) |
| 02:24.40 | Arrgh | I'll go back to KDE4 for now |
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| 02:25.53 | Arrgh | Logging in to GNOME in order to do surgery on my KDE install isn't fun :) |
| 02:26.38 | Sho_ | my "kde is broken" fallback environment used to be good old windowmaker |
| 02:26.59 | diegoviola | KDE is the best DE imho |
| 02:28.00 | Sho_ | oh sure we're talking the situation where you broke your KDE install with tinkering and use something else briefly |
| 02:29.23 | Arrgh | GNOME3 is close to usable, but I kinda need taskbar and system tray |
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| 02:31.17 | Arrgh | brb, relaunching kde4 :) |
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| 02:34.14 | Arrgh | Ah, that's better |
| 02:34.26 | Arrgh | Looks a little dated, but actually has working features. :) |
| 02:34.52 | Sho_ | Arrgh: what was the problem with the taskbar? |
| 02:34.55 | timmy_tofu | Where are the keyboard shortcuts configured in the System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures pane stored? I'd like to export my kwin and other shortcuts so I can easily import them on other machines. I looked through ~/.kde, found some kwin stuff, but nothing with the shortcuts in them |
| 02:35.17 | Arrgh | Sho_, there isn't one at all by default in GNOME3, and the most commonly suggested extension is not very usable |
| 02:35.40 | Sho_ | timmy_tofu: kglobalshortcutsrc |
| 02:35.52 | Sho_ | timmy_tofu: and khotkeysrc |
| 02:36.04 | Sho_ | Arrgh: oh i thought you meant plasma5, nvm |
| 02:36.24 | Arrgh | I couldn't get 5 working at all just now, I'll wait another week or two before the next attempt. :) |
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| 02:37.30 | timmy_tofu | Sho_: Aha, thank you! |
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| 02:58.12 | leontopod | hrmm, kdey magically disappeared from my taskbar and when I try to start it up from the menu the icon just bounces for a while and them stops, kmix does not start |
| 02:58.21 | leontopod | s/kde/kmix/ |
| 02:58.42 | Sho_ | try killall -9 kmix |
| 02:58.49 | Sho_ | brutal, but .. |
| 02:59.17 | leontopod | oik |
| 02:59.19 | leontopod | ok |
| 02:59.47 | leontopod | heh it killed it |
| 02:59.50 | leontopod | now what |
| 03:00.18 | Sho_ | now you start it again |
| 03:02.35 | leontopod | didn't work |
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| 03:02.41 | leontopod | and why did it disappear from my task bar |
| 03:02.47 | leontopod | brb |
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| 06:48.31 | Dunga | Any help installing kde5 on Mint 17 please |
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| 09:01.25 | cato | hello, I have a laptop with a higher dpi than I am used to. How can I make everything (fonts, window-decoration, bar on the bottom) a bit larger without decreasing resolution? |
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| 09:04.43 | cato | (kde 4.13.3 on debian jessie) |
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| 09:14.20 | valorie | cato, if you click on the cashew, you can make the taskbar taller |
| 09:14.26 | valorie | the icons will scale |
| 09:14.52 | valorie | fonts you can often shift+ |
| 09:15.11 | valorie | or maybe control+ |
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| 09:19.57 | Jucato | there's also http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/25/plasma-desktoplM1489.png to force a DPI (dunno if it's distro -dependent or even recommended) |
| 09:20.56 | cato | valorie, Jucato: thanks, clicked through all the things by hand. i expected something like a single slider for everything at once |
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| 09:21.54 | Jucato | cato: you can adjust all fonts to the same size though without having to do it for each one. only disadvantage: all fonts will be the same size |
| 09:22.27 | Jucato | (fixed width/mono, small, and taskbar fonts are usually set to something smaller) |
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| 11:11.27 | zubdublub | Whenever I remove an attachment from KMail, the text in the e-mail's body is deleted too (KDE 4.11.15). Is this a known bug? |
| 11:15.39 | cato | zubdublub: is it a html-mail? |
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| 11:17.11 | zubdublub | cato: no, plain-text |
| 11:17.35 | zubdublub | cato: language is set to spanish |
| 11:18.36 | zubdublub | cato: most times the text is deletes, sometimes, very rarely, it isn't. i haven't been able to work out the pattern. (it might have something to do with the folder the e-mail is moved to, but i'm not sure.) |
| 11:18.42 | zubdublub | *deleted |
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| 12:59.37 | Konomi | can anyone tell me where screen edges is in system settings I can't seem to locate it |
| 13:00.35 | pata | desktop behavior if I recall correctly |
| 13:01.13 | Konomi | don't see anything called desktop behaviour |
| 13:01.19 | Konomi | I thought it used to be in displays and monitors |
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| 13:01.34 | Konomi | oh workspace behavouur |
| 13:01.36 | Konomi | nvm I am an idiot |
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| 13:02.23 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
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| 13:32.03 | SaveTheRobots | hi, bit of a stupid question but how do i get rid of the annoying "Default" tab in the top right hand corner of the screen? :p |
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| 13:33.41 | rdieter | SaveTheRobots: you can move it. For example, if moved to a screen corner, it turns into a less-intrusive tranlucent cashew. but you can't get rid of it |
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| 13:35.16 | SaveTheRobots | rdieter: ah thanks, much better... one more slightly esoteric problem... when moving my mouse pointer quickly over several menu options, i occasionally get an option that get stuck in the hover-over state even though my mouse isn't over it |
| 13:35.31 | SaveTheRobots | bit of a tedious quasi problem, i know, but it's annoying, any ideas? :p |
| 13:36.23 | rdieter | no |
| 13:36.39 | rdieter | (maybe someone else will though) |
| 13:36.51 | SaveTheRobots | hehe ok, thanks |
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| 13:56.15 | Illusioneer1 | So i have a theory: KWallet was a secret plan on the part of the GNOME team to sabotage interest in KDE |
| 13:56.40 | Illusioneer1 | It's the only way I can explain how this app manages to consistently fuck up everything else without anybody noticing or fixing it |
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| 14:00.52 | cb400f | Illusioneer: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/kwallet-is-annoying/ |
| 14:00.54 | rdieter | I have a theory: trolls suck |
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| 14:01.34 | cb400f | also what people fail to comprehend, it's not kwallets fault that application don't offer any alternative to using kwallet |
| 14:01.45 | cb400f | it's applications forcing people to use kwallet, not kwallet |
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| 14:02.19 | Illusioneer | Right, rather than blame the app that keeps fucking up, blame everybody else |
| 14:03.04 | Illusioneer | Never mind KWallet forgets the password every time it gets updated |
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| 14:03.36 | karthikp | kwallet doesn't forget the password. It does have an optional time limit to keep the wallet open. |
| 14:03.38 | Illusioneer | Oh wait, we can blame (fill in the blank distro), they must have done something wrong |
| 14:04.14 | Illusioneer | Or we can just say it's just one person's individual problem, except for all the hundreds of "me too!" comments, they must be imagining it |
| 14:04.24 | Illusioneer | Blame everyone and anything else |
| 14:04.26 | karthikp | Still, you have a point. The kwallet user interaction bits could use some revision. |
| 14:04.29 | cb400f | what gets updated? kwallet? or the password? |
| 14:04.45 | karthikp | That said, unless you have a constructive idea, what you're saying just comes across as trolling. |
| 14:04.56 | cb400f | has been using the same ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/ for 5-6 years |
| 14:05.00 | Illusioneer | Every time kwallet gets a repo-update the password is corrupted |
| 14:05.13 | rdieter | too, kwallet is awesome for me |
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| 14:05.22 | karthikp | Put another way, how would *you* like kwallet to interact with the user. Note users range from paranoid to blithely unaware. |
| 14:05.36 | karthikp | three. :) |
| 14:06.06 | Illusioneer | It shouldn't have to interact, beyond asking to retain the password, same way the ones in OSX, Gnome and other OS's do it |
| 14:06.07 | Illusioneer | It shouldn't need to ask me to re-log into it every five minutes |
| 14:06.38 | Illusioneer | And no, this isn't recent, kwallet has been a nightmare since the moment it was foisted on us |
| 14:06.45 | rdieter | Illusioneer: have you looked to see if kwallet is configured to autoclose or not? |
| 14:06.49 | rdieter | sounds like it is |
| 14:06.51 | karthikp | Illusioneer: http://i.imgur.com/CtN8yB4.png |
| 14:07.18 | Illusioneer | Yeah read about that long ago |
| 14:07.23 | Illusioneer | never seems to remember it's own settings |
| 14:07.33 | scummos | Illusioneer: well the idea is that kwallet stores your passwords encrypted |
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| 14:08.28 | Illusioneer | yes, an idea implemented elsewhere and far better |
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| 14:09.03 | scummos | ? |
| 14:09.26 | rdieter | Illusioneer: if you don't want help, then you're in the wrong place. |
| 14:09.28 | Illusioneer | is this going the way of nepomuk, the only "fix" is to ditch it and start over? |
| 14:10.11 | rdieter | if all you want is to rant/complain, please do so elsewhere |
| 14:10.34 | scummos | I didn't even hear any substantial complatint about kwallet until now |
| 14:10.36 | scummos | I use it and it's ok |
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| 14:12.07 | rdieter | Illusioneer: otherwise, please do verify the settings to not-autoclose and karthikp suggested |
| 14:12.16 | rdieter | s/and/as/ |
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| 15:10.24 | stack | hello, how do I debug a plasma widget? plasma-nm does not handle the vpn for some reason, clicking on connect leads to nothing, no error, nada. that vpn used to work when I clicked on nm-applet for xfce |
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| 15:13.33 | rdieter | stack: "used to work" ? recently? can you verify it still does? (to rule out a lower level nm/vpn issue, rather than something in plasma-nm specifically) |
| 15:14.10 | stack | let me figure out the correct systray widget I was using.. |
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| 15:21.54 | stack | rdieter: the problems are two, one is the lacking of error messages, the second seems to be a permission issue, maybe I'm missing some package on debian or some dbus service |
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| 15:22.30 | stack | rdieter: if I click disconnect on the current wifi, it happens nothing, nm-applet reports this error ** (nm-applet:9039): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. |
| 15:22.43 | stack | (32) org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control request failed: not authorized |
| 15:22.52 | stack | I'm on debian btw. |
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| 15:23.04 | rdieter | ok, apparently a distro/nm/policy problem |
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| 15:23.49 | rdieter | ideally, yes, the applet should probably notify about lack of permissions |
| 15:23.52 | stack | rdieter: probably I removed some package in the process of removing xfce |
| 15:24.26 | stack | go figure what I'm missing now.. |
| 15:24.52 | rdieter | I'd *guess* some policykit configuration |
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| 15:25.22 | rdieter | ie, usual default policy is to allow local user session to control hardware, like wifi/network/printers/removable-storage |
| 15:25.47 | stack | ok that was policykit-1 package! |
| 15:26.30 | stack | I really don't know how that got removed.. |
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| 15:27.16 | rdieter | kde should have a dependency on that (via polkit-qt-1) |
| 15:27.49 | rdieter | kdelibs -> polkit-qt -> polkit, definitely poke your distro now |
| 15:27.50 | stack | yes it has |
| 15:28.03 | stack | Depends: kde-runtime (>> 4:4.10), libc6 (>= 2.2.5), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.4.0), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.3.4), libpolkit-qt-1-1 (>= 0.99.0), libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), policykit-1 |
| 15:28.16 | stack | argh, wrong long paste sorry. |
| 15:28.21 | rdieter | oh, so you have broken deps ? |
| 15:28.22 | stack | anyway the dependency is there |
| 15:28.33 | stack | that is possible,now it is working |
| 15:28.38 | rdieter | either way, you definitely need that. :) |
| 15:28.46 | stack | I don't know if something else will broke in 5 min because of some other dep |
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| 15:40.54 | evilpie__ | Hey, I was wondering if somebody would be interested in helping with making Firefox working again with the Qt toolkit |
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| 15:42.14 | rdieter | evilpie__: (may be worth asking in #qt too, if you haven't done so already) |
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| 15:42.33 | evilpie__ | no I haven't |
| 15:42.36 | evilpie__ | thanks for the tip |
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| 15:59.33 | m_tadeu | hi....I'm having a few problems with my gtk app when running on liboxygen-gtk...where is a good place to ask about it? |
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| 16:02.07 | m_tadeu | thanx bootkiller |
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| 16:12.56 | stack | how is that called the launcher on top of the screen? it is apparently blocked and I'm unable to terminate it |
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| 16:14.06 | stack | also, is that supposed to search in all files on my home? |
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| 16:42.50 | Arrgh | dvratil, ping? :) |
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| 17:25.31 | G__81 | i have a very lame question. I have added amarok to the panel by right clicking on the icon in the menu. Now i want to remove it. How do i remove it |
| 17:25.46 | G__81 | i dont see any option when i right click on the icon to remove it from the panel |
| 17:26.56 | Arrgh | G__81, you have to go into the panel editor |
| 17:27.17 | Arrgh | The widget on the far right of the panel is the easiest way to get to it, or you can right click in an empty spot, Panel Options > Panel Settings |
| 17:28.05 | G__81 | Arrgh, on Panel Settings whats that i have to select ? |
| 17:29.36 | Arrgh | Mouse over the launcher widget, a thing will appear above it with an 'X' in it |
| 17:30.29 | G__81 | Arrgh, oh ok Got it. Thanks :) |
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| 20:35.20 | octocpp | is there a way to get my mouse to have momentum? like I let go of the mouse pad and it keeps going for a bit? |
| 20:35.35 | octocpp | It is in the synaptic setting in win |
| 20:35.41 | octocpp | possible in Linux? |
| 20:35.47 | octocpp | or a kde setting? |
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| 21:35.16 | crudson | rohan: meta+tab was possibly what you pressed |
| 21:44.48 | rohan | crudson: i think i disabled that keyboard shortcut because i pressed it too often |
| 21:44.57 | rohan | i remapped it to something that i may have accidentally pressed |
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