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| 01:59.45 | mueslo_ | is there some way to access special application settings for programs that don't have a kde titlebar (e.g. Steam)? |
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| 02:00.22 | mueslo_ | or special window settings |
| 02:00.23 | mueslo_ | whatever it's called |
| 02:00.31 | DaZ | alt + f3? |
| 02:00.48 | mueslo_ | doesn't seem to do anything |
| 02:01.11 | mueslo_ | oh yeah, since that'd need the titlebar to open the menu, obviously |
| 02:01.20 | DaZ | not really |
| 02:01.24 | mueslo_ | but is there some other way, *not* via the title bar to access those settings? |
| 02:01.36 | DaZ | systemsettings |
| 02:01.46 | mueslo_ | wait, now it works |
| 02:01.47 | DaZ | window behavior -> window rules |
| 02:01.48 | mueslo_ | with alt+f3 |
| 02:02.04 | DaZ | who would have expected |
| 02:02.04 | mueslo_ | DaZ: thank you :) |
| 02:02.07 | DaZ | yw |
| 02:02.09 | mueslo_ | yeah :P |
| 02:02.10 | mueslo_ | sorry |
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| 02:13.58 | loandbehold | hi |
| 02:15.03 | loandbehold | kde majorly malfunctioned and it's only second day i'm using it. trying to send bug report. Basically I had to kill kdm to get my desktop back |
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| 02:40.30 | loandbehold | the main panel at the bottom on autohide disappeared and wouldn't come back following strange transfiguration of the desktops on the rotating cube |
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| 03:37.10 | Stallmanu | Just curious were there any plans to change the way Konqi looks? |
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| 04:17.57 | djustice | Stallmanu: the answer to that is likely far too complex for irc. just play around with it. |
| 04:18.38 | djustice | Stallmanu: oops, thought you meant konq for a sec. |
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| 04:18.58 | Stallmanu | lol I was about to ask play with what? |
| 04:21.10 | djustice | i mean, i've seen konqi in all sorts of styles. i guess the official style is just an icon that probably isn't used as much as it's stylizations. |
| 04:21.38 | djustice | by icon i mean archetype. |
| 04:22.09 | Stallmanu | Well I saw the Krita contest http://krita.org/item/133-krita-konqi-contest-the-winner-is-found so I was wondering |
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| 08:10.13 | cjae | where did the "treat as seperate screens" go in the focus section? under window behavior? |
| 08:10.55 | cjae | 4.13.1 |
| 08:12.16 | qdata | not sure this is what you want: but there is a Multiscreen Behaviour with a checkbox for Separate Screen Focus under Window Behaviour |
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| 08:13.56 | qdata | the 'Focus' tab under Window Behaviour -> Window Behaviour |
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| 08:15.30 | qdata | I don't use it so I don't know exactly what it does - I just have one big desktop that spans 2 monitors |
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| 08:24.48 | cjae | qdata: me too, I think it keeps the windows opening on right screens? |
| 08:25.31 | cjae | you on 4.13.1 |
| 08:25.40 | qdata | maybe - I want my windows to open on my main screen, which is my left one |
| 08:25.56 | qdata | 4.13.2 |
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| 08:31.56 | cjae | distro? |
| 08:32.29 | qdata | currently kubuntu 14.04 |
| 08:32.37 | cjae | me too |
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| 08:33.07 | qdata | although I have been looking towards changing away from it to something else |
| 08:33.29 | cjae | it did switch around for a bit, came back |
| 08:33.33 | qdata | just everything I've tried so far has not measured up to what I already have... |
| 08:33.33 | Two_Dogs | qdata: opensuse, default kde distro |
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| 08:34.15 | cjae | you again!! |
| 08:35.21 | qdata | I used opensuse for a few years before settling on Kubuntu |
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| 08:36.12 | cjae | havent been a rpm er for years |
| 08:36.19 | Two_Dogs | qdata: went the otherway round, from mint/kde to suse |
| 08:36.42 | qdata | they lost some of their mojo back when the Novell/Attachmate thing went down, and after waiting a while the last time I took a look it seems the same |
| 08:37.04 | cjae | heard suse is serious about kde |
| 08:37.08 | Two_Dogs | cjae: i knew nothing of it, still dont have to, click-install, web even, who said life had to be hard |
| 08:37.43 | dyrvere | Two_Dogs: Microsoft. ba-dum-tish! |
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| 08:37.50 | cjae | always about the click install |
| 08:37.59 | Two_Dogs | dyrvere: thnks |
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| 08:38.33 | cjae | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScC_pi3PJ9k&feature=kp dont even like this kind of music but does this song get stuck in my head |
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| 08:41.00 | Two_Dogs | spotify:track:0Y5aFVwBrhIxljBtRXgCBN sort of thinking it :) |
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| 08:41.21 | cjae | remembers suse 8 |
| 08:42.20 | Two_Dogs | i am impressed with opensuse, it just works, and i get to enjoy a nice stable kde |
| 08:42.35 | Two_Dogs | cause kde is the point :) |
| 08:43.12 | cjae | been using kubuntu since 4.1 |
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| 08:51.25 | dyrvere | Archübermensch here, never looked back. I like front pages that show package information directly. Severe lack of those out there really. :( |
| 08:52.01 | xiaomiao | ah, another distro trolling |
| 08:52.07 | xiaomiao | rolls the dice |
| 08:52.10 | xiaomiao | Fedora! |
| 08:52.31 | dyrvere | xiaomiao: You didn't read what my comment said, gimp. |
| 08:53.29 | xiaomiao | dyrvere: I did, and since it doesn't make sense I just play along |
| 08:53.31 | xiaomiao | wheeeeeeeee |
| 08:53.33 | dyrvere | I'm disappointed by their front pages. Read the dissapointment, son. |
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| 08:54.50 | cjae | maybe my setting will reappear when I plug in other monitor |
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| 09:02.19 | dyrvere | cjae: setting for what? |
| 09:03.50 | cjae | window behavior ---> focus --> treat as separate screens |
| 09:04.01 | cjae | dyrvere: |
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| 10:17.51 | q9 | Hi, what the equivalent of /etc/kde/env in kf5? When I look into startkde it's seems to be /usr/env, but that cannot be, can it? |
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| 10:24.55 | moviuro | q9: better luck in #kde-devel, I think |
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| 10:34.53 | MCMic | Hello |
| 10:36.16 | MCMic | I’m trying to understand how to use kde address book. I exported kopete contacts to kde address book, yet I don’t see them in kontact. I do see them in konversation contact peering dialog. |
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| 10:44.36 | moviuro | MCMic: ask on #kontact too ;) |
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| 10:47.49 | MCMic | ok |
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| 11:09.28 | q9 | moviuro: Thanks |
| 11:09.46 | moviuro | q9: did you get your answer? :) |
| 11:10.24 | q9 | moviuro: not yet, I got sidetracked by configuring irssi 8-) |
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| 11:10.49 | moviuro | hhh |
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| 11:26.26 | ovidiu-florin | I get a bad gateway 502 error message here:http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=115590 |
| 11:26.33 | ovidiu-florin | where do I report this? |
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| 11:34.16 | qdata | ovidiu-florin: I just tried that uri and it worked OK for me, maybe try it again now? |
| 11:34.30 | ovidiu-florin | works now |
| 11:34.31 | ovidiu-florin | thanks |
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| 12:03.46 | robotdevil | does any of the network stuff work in dolphin? |
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| 12:05.26 | robotdevil | if I setup cifs in my nas, the point to it with dolphin, it never asks for credentials but if I boot over to windows it does |
| 12:06.44 | robotdevil | if I remove executing from certain share, it prompts for credentials but never accepts them |
| 12:08.30 | robotdevil | also if I setup simple nfs shares nothing shows up network, but I can mount them |
| 12:08.40 | robotdevil | ..... |
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| 12:16.03 | moviuro | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/25/plasma-desktopFSj669.png <- plasma dosn't seem to honor font spec (size) |
| 12:17.11 | moviuro | robotdevil: I have a perfectly working samba share working over VPN in dolphin. Never tried NFS though as it tends to break the machine if something goes wrong |
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| 12:18.17 | q9 | adv_windowlist |
| 12:18.48 | robotdevil | moviuro: authentication? |
| 12:19.10 | moviuro | nope |
| 12:19.27 | moviuro | just put some firewal rules for that x) |
| 12:19.34 | moviuro | (jk) |
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| 12:35.48 | q9 | save |
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| 12:37.29 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
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| 13:00.51 | jonez | greetings. using f20. kmail 4.12.5. trouble is that when I try to "delete all trash folders", messages do not get deleted. sometimes I get a status message that says "messages could not be deleted" but most times not. |
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| 13:02.06 | moviuro | jonez: ask on #kontactt too |
| 13:02.11 | moviuro | #kontact |
| 13:02.14 | moviuro | sorry |
| 13:02.22 | jonez | ok ty |
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| 14:01.38 | b0stik | hi all, i have a problem with my kde desktop. i run freebsd 10.0 and kde 4.12.5 after an upgrade of kde environmenent i cannot open konsole, pidgin and other software |
| 14:01.56 | b0stik | firefox hexchat and others run fine |
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| 14:02.37 | b0stik | i've noted that plasma desktop is laggy ... |
| 14:02.45 | b0stik | any idea how to debug ? |
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| 14:07.55 | shadeslayer | I am unsure if the 4.12.x series is even maintained anymore |
| 14:09.42 | b0stik | i know ... but pcbsd is far from the edge ... :D |
| 14:09.55 | b0stik | can somebody help me in solvin the issue ? |
| 14:10.03 | b0stik | how to debug |
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| 14:27.42 | b0stik | with xfce i succesfully run konsole |
| 14:27.46 | b0stik | and pidgin too |
| 14:27.48 | b0stik | :( |
| 14:27.50 | b0stik | :S |
| 14:28.04 | b0stik | i think it can be something with dbus |
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| 18:31.42 | Frogbarf | When I open Dolphin it always launches displaying split view. How can I disable that so that it launches with single view only? |
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| 18:36.17 | BlaXpirit | Frogbarf, it's in the options |
| 18:36.44 | BlaXpirit | the very first checkbox you see when going to options, Frogbarf |
| 18:37.13 | Frogbarf | ah, it was in my face all along. Thanks |
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| 19:44.09 | acerspyro | My desktop keeps screwing up. I keep having the same issue over and over. I do something, it appears. Then, it either randomly disappears, or I rename my ~/.kde4 folder. Then, it's often a completely different problem that happens. Same thing, it either simply stops doing it, or I do something to make it stop. But they keep coming back. By example, my Lancelot button wasn't at the complete bottom left corner of the screen, which was annoying. So |
| 19:44.11 | acerspyro | I renamed my ~/.kde4 folder, and it didn't stop |
| 19:44.24 | acerspyro | I log back in a few days later, and it randomly chooses to stop doing it. |
| 19:44.54 | acerspyro | And now, When I right-click in Lancelot to add a favorite, it barely leaves me time to click on the "Add to favorites" button before the menu goes away. |
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| 19:45.15 | acerspyro | Lancelot also crashes a lot. |
| 19:47.02 | acerspyro | This never, ever happened on openSUSE or other distros, but on Arch, it keeps happening. All I do is install the needed packages, start KDE, and Boom. A bug. Can be anything. On another computer, Plasma wouldn't remember anything at all, not even the wallpaper or the panels settings. |
| 19:47.25 | acerspyro | I tried everything I know. Anyone has ANY idea about the cause / how to fix this? |
| 19:49.07 | acerspyro | Oh. Wow. Just... Why not. Oxygen-GTK stopped working. Yeah, why not? |
| 19:51.33 | acerspyro | KDEInit died, too. Nice. |
| 19:52.18 | acerspyro | Like that doesn't happen a few times a day. |
| 19:52.28 | acerspyro | Hmm, thinking about it, can KDEInit cause all this? |
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| 20:25.00 | basheba | hey there o/ how do I backup and export my kmail inbox. When I do it, I get an error message "mysqldump not found. Export aborted" fix? |
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| 20:37.28 | basheba | got it n/m |
| 20:37.30 | basheba | exit |
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| 22:06.46 | moviuro | sometimes, the konsole's prompt loses focus, is there a shortcut to give it back? |
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| 22:23.33 | crudson | moviuro: do you have the focus policy that is best suited for your use? Settings->Window Behavior->Focus. Otherwise alt-tab to it (also see the other kwin shortcuts for switching windows) |
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| 22:24.56 | moviuro | crudson: I use 'move focus to the <direction> a lot |
| 22:25.12 | moviuro | as well as 'move window in <direction>' |
| 22:25.57 | moviuro | focus is set at Folow Mouse - Mouse Precedence |
| 22:26.10 | moviuro | *to; +l |
| 22:29.27 | moviuro | perhaps I was unclear: konsole has the focus (the shiny borders) but the typing block does not blink and is hollow |
| 22:31.42 | crudson | moviuro: do you have a split view in konsole? that can result in window having focus but not one pane |
| 22:32.03 | moviuro | no crudson, nothing fancy like that |
| 22:32.14 | moviuro | though I use the app-menu in plasma |
| 22:32.29 | moviuro | and single pressing alt sends me up there |
| 22:32.43 | moviuro | (BTW that's a behavior I'd like to change/remove) |
| 22:33.49 | crudson | stricter Focus Stealing Prevention maybe? |
| 22:34.43 | moviuro | nope, even at extreme, when I press Alt, it sends me elsewhere :( |
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| 22:38.52 | crudson | maybe try a more specific alt+key combination to bring up the app launcher |
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| 22:40.01 | crudson | in Plasma Desktop Shell->Activate Application Launcher Widget (default is alt+f1) |
| 22:41.24 | moviuro | crudson: no way I'll ever use a menu ;) |
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| 22:41.29 | moviuro | krunner FTW |
| 22:41.56 | moviuro | also... my eyes... burned... http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/26/plasma-desktopBLE638.png |
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| 22:50.32 | crudson | ahh app-menu. Sorry I misread that as app launcher. Don't use it I am afraid (not a fan of those globally positioned menu, especially when using focus-follows mouse) |
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| 22:51.56 | moviuro | (I have 2, one on top, one at bottom, in case my window below need something from the menu ;) ) |
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| 22:52.29 | moviuro | also, I use a lot of fullscreen applications and rarely go into the menues... |
| 22:53.19 | crudson | yeah. apologies I missed you mentioned that, not something I have used sadly so can't comment on how it interacts with the focus. |
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| 22:56.44 | moviuro | silently begins to cry |
| 22:56.47 | moviuro | ;) |
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| 23:01.18 | rburgosnavas | hello there |
| 23:01.57 | crudson | moviuro: sorry man! |
| 23:02.16 | moviuro | absolutely no problem crudson |
| 23:02.47 | moviuro | I'll deal with it, even if it means I'll have to reach for the mouse (uh!) |
| 23:02.54 | rburgosnavas | I tried changing the icon for a launcher and the change shows on the Icon-Only task manager. But when I click the launcher, once the application loads, the launcher icons changes to the the original one. any hints? |
| 23:03.33 | moviuro | rburgosnavas: you might want to add a custom .desktop file somplace in ~/.local with the custom icon spec |
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| 23:06.24 | rburgosnavas | actually the launcher is in .local/share/applications already |
| 23:06.51 | rburgosnavas | I checked /usr/share/applications to see if it was also there in case of conflicts, but it's not |
| 23:07.07 | rburgosnavas | is there another place launchers could stored? |
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| 23:10.02 | moviuro | rburgosnavas: dirty fix: replace the icon that is being used by your application |
| 23:10.22 | moviuro | (list all files owned by the package, find the ison and edit it by hand) |
| 23:10.31 | moviuro | *icon |
| 23:14.33 | rburgosnavas | i'll try by hand |
| 23:20.13 | rburgosnavas | well, i removed the launcher from .local/.. just to test stuff, did alt-F2, looked up the application, pressed enter, and it started it. is this being cached somewhere else? |
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| 23:20.43 | moviuro | rburgosnavas: you must logout/login to apply the changes IIRC |
| 23:20.52 | rburgosnavas | oh |
| 23:20.53 | rburgosnavas | duh |
| 23:21.03 | moviuro | no idea where it is cached, I just know that loging out/in works for almost everything ;) |
| 23:21.24 | loandbehold | fedora20 kde is underwhelming - been using it for 2 days only and constant Konqueror crashes , now Dolphin crash |
| 23:22.43 | moviuro | loandbehold: openSUSE uses RPM too and has a great KDE experience |
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| 23:23.50 | loandbehold | moviuro: i dumped it right before f20, opensuse 13.1 kde looks good but installing apps not in the suse repos does not work |
| 23:24.10 | moviuro | loandbehold: well come to arch :) |
| 23:24.38 | loandbehold | overall linux is underwhelming, as it was experimental OS 20 years ago so it remains...not ready for prime time |
| 23:24.38 | moviuro | where things are more or less stable for a more or less short time since everything keeps upgrading :) |
| 23:24.48 | moviuro | loandbehold: debian |
| 23:25.01 | moviuro | rock solid, yet outdated |
| 23:25.27 | loandbehold | moviuro: dumped manjaro KDE ( arch derivative) right after suse before fedora, manjaro disfunctional too |
| 23:26.34 | moviuro | debian is an entirely different breed of Linux (deb based, one of the "founders", along with Slack and RH) |
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| 23:27.09 | loandbehold | dumped mint ( debian deriv) before suse. mint 15-16 disfunctional, mint17 does not allow wireless mac change anymore |
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| 23:27.46 | loandbehold | i used slackware back in the 1990s when it was compile all yourself, but now slack is outdated |
| 23:27.48 | moviuro | loandbehold: I don't know of Mint but derivates are... well... derivates |
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| 23:28.10 | moviuro | give debian a try, but most of the stuff is 'mature' |
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| 23:37.42 | ovrflw0x | i am using weechat is there any command which blinks the konsole to notify when nick gets highlighted? |
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| 23:39.55 | DaZ | it's a terminal bell |
| 23:41.04 | ovrflw0x | i want visual indicator not sound one |
| 23:42.31 | ovrflw0x | ovrflw0x: |
| 23:43.31 | ovrflw0x | DaZ: ? |
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| 23:46.26 | acerspyro | ovrflw0x: NCurses allows it, so either you add a flash() function on the highlight function and re-compile, or you find it. |
| 23:46.34 | acerspyro | Pretty sure it includes it. |
| 23:47.53 | ovrflw0x | acerspyro: i ticked "Mark taskbar entry" but taskbar only icon didn't blink when nick got highlighted |
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| 23:52.02 | oogabooga | ovrflw0x: hey |
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| 23:54.08 | oogabooga | hey |
| 23:54.12 | oogabooga | ovrflw0x: |
| 23:54.37 | oogabooga | ovrflw0x: |
| 23:55.52 | oogabooga | ovrflw0x: |
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