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00:00.36qdatajust select 'None' and it goes away
00:00.51shevyah ok
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01:49.53ectospasmI'm using Debian wheezy, so I have KDE 4.8.x.  Since the kwin scripts I found for getting tiling to work don't exist for this version, I've adapted my xmonad.hs for KDE.  It works OK, but the kicker/kickoff application launcher gets tiled.  I want to tell it to float (and only appear in one place).  I know how to do that, but every time the kicker window loses focus it disappears, so I can't get the
01:49.56ectospasmWM_CLASS(STRING) name for that window (with xprop).
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06:52.25moviuro_hi there! baloo_file_extractor has run overnight (from midnight to now, ~9 o'clock and stil isn't done yet :( )
06:53.54moviuro_hmmm, nvm, Forgot to tell it not to index my Downloads, as some of them are really, really, really huge CSV files
06:56.12moviuro_http://sprunge.us/IiFb I however get this output: is it really bad? or just a little bit bad ?
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07:09.06moviuro_nvm, seems it has finished
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09:11.49cnzwhat's the network manager package for kde 4.13
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09:12.42moviuro_cnz: hi, depends on your distro. I believe it is something like nm-applet
09:13.01cnzdebian
09:13.14cnzand it says it's already installed but I can't find it
09:13.30moviuro_well ask your distro's folk too ;)
09:13.43moviuro_(I'm using Archlinux, so can't help you further, sorry)
09:14.02cnzyeah I should've installed arch over debian
09:14.06cnzdebian has turned to crap
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09:15.09rik01i am using fedora 14. can any one give me the new rythmbox version supported by this OS?
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09:16.14moviuro_rik01: your best bet is to compile from source. Also, Rythmbox is a #gnome application IIRC ;)
09:16.32moviuro_(isn't Fedora 14 just a *bit* out of date ?)
09:17.13Fudusonly 6 versions behind!
09:17.35rik01yaa i know but am usin this for educational purpose.but i want to play my mp3s here as well as.i am beginr linux user :(
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09:18.35valorielots of apps will play mp3s
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09:18.36moviuro_rik01: if you have an other machine at hand, I'd recommand you try to install a more recent version of any Linux on it
09:18.51moviuro_on Fedora 14? all mirrors are surely down
09:18.54valorieamarok, vlc, etc.
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09:20.11Fudushttp://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
09:20.38rik01vlc is not there. yaa am trying to install some other but as knw guys in india linux user can be found very rare & internet speed here is vry vry low that is why i cannot dwnld it also
09:21.40moviuro_rik01: ls -l /usr/bin | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
09:21.53moviuro_this will upload a list of your programs on a paste server
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09:22.04moviuro_so we can look for anything that can read mp3s
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09:24.16rik01oh thanks moviuro
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09:24.54DaZhe probably doesn't have any codecs anyway :v
09:25.14Fudusrpmfusion dropped 14, native repos won't have mp3
09:25.56moviuro_yeah, best bet is a tiny live distro with codecs
09:26.07moviuro_Mint would be nice but is not tiny x(
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09:26.11valorieperhaps puppy?
09:26.24valorieor crunchbang
09:26.39moviuro_valorie: they have codecs installed by default?
09:26.47valoriethat I don't know
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09:26.59valorievlc doesn't need codecs
09:27.11moviuro_I'm pretty sure they don't, as I remember Mint being one of the very few that have
09:27.24moviuro_not entirely true, valorie
09:27.39moviuro_nvm
09:28.04moviuro_I thought I saw some vlc-codec* in my package manager
09:28.34FudusI prefer smplayer :(
09:29.15FudusOpensuse offers to install fluendo mp3 in the main repos, ubuntu too
09:29.25valoriemoviuro_: sometimes devels package it separately
09:29.40FudusWhich is the only US legal place for Linux
09:29.44valoriesome people want nothing to do with mp3 on their machines, since it is not entirely free
09:30.22Fudusvalorie: and redhat/suse doesn't want to pay for their free distros ;)
09:30.23moviuro_Fudus: "the only US legal place for Linux" : what happens if you get an other codec from someplace else?
09:31.15FudusThere is a licence fee in the US for mp3/avc/aac, which is why redhat/suse don't support them out of box
09:31.20moviuro_Fudus: valorie: gstreamer's plugins? (good, bad, ugly)
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09:31.33Fudusbecause then they'd need to charge for it, which I doubt people would approve
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09:32.16FudusThe chance of MPEGLA suing a consumer over it is 0 though, if you try to stream they'll probably go after you for licensing
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09:32.34Fudusstream as a server rather
09:32.47valorieif you use gstreamer-backend for phonon, you'll need those codecs, yeah
09:32.48moviuro_is actually happy in the EU x)
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09:33.12valorieright, but the distros do not want suits
09:33.48moviuro_sure thing
09:34.15moviuro_though mint did it right IMO: US-only iso with no codecs and other iso files with the codecs
09:34.21FudusFunny thing is that the OS max licence fee for h264 is only 300k, which is peanuts for redhat/suse
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09:34.44Fudusor Canonical even
09:35.38FudusBut they hide from it with the Free Software Ideology :P
09:36.34moviuro_"free" as in we put Amazon spyware in it but you know it ;) \end{troll}
09:37.23FudusApparently that was dropped in 14.04?
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09:37.48moviuro_I personnaly wanted to drop all my mp3 (convert them to ogg or get FLAC) but Google's Music Manager only deals with mp3 files :(
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09:38.44xiaomiaoFudus: that license makes no sense, so why would anyone pay for it when they get nothing in return?
09:39.30FudusMPEGLA will go after redhat/suse/canonical if they put in AVC/AAC in default installs
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09:39.45FudusLawyers very expensive, easier to pay up 300k
09:40.22moviuro_or save 300k by writing a little entry in the wiki, telling them to DL the codec from a third party repo
09:40.36FudusWhich is how they bypass it in effect, yes
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09:41.48FudusOddly AAC licensing is more expensive for some reason
09:41.58FudusYou'd think the video part would be :P
09:43.02Fudus$1-.10 per unit sold
09:43.06Fudus(AAC licence)
09:43.44mystica555-worklikes opus
09:47.09FudusAVC: Title-by-Title - 12 minutes or less = no royalty; >12 minutes in length = lower of (a) 2% or (b) $0.02 per title
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10:22.11ELQEYNNHow do you get to the kde settings?
10:22.28DaZsystemsettings
10:23.09Fudusalt-f1/system settings enter?
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11:06.17cekgot no sound in amarok via phonon pulseaudio
11:06.22cekwhat could be wrong ?:)
11:06.35cekgetting sound fine via chrome/ youtube -- goes via alsa , probably?
11:07.22Guest73899how to run a java program in fedora 18
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11:08.04moviuro_Guest73899: hi -> #fedora
11:08.37BluesKajHowdy folks
11:08.48moviuro_cek: take a look at phonon's configuration in systemsettings (or Alt-F2 "phonon")
11:09.06Guest73899hi.. can anyone tell me how to run a java program in fedora 18?
11:09.12moviuro_cek: and if everything looks fine, then install veromix, which is a plasma widget for pulseaudio
11:09.20cekyeah, so the problem there is that the config is okay when amarok is closed and dev list changes when I play via amarok
11:09.44cekany small player that uses phonon that I could install to test?
11:09.49moviuro_Guest73899: man java
11:10.05cekor maybe some command, liek aplay?
11:10.37moviuro_cek: you can reorder the dev list
11:10.48moviuro_I don't know of aplay
11:10.55ceki'm getting a DIFFERENT dev list when amarok is open
11:11.07moviuro_oO
11:11.33cekunder normal circumstances, it's "Alsa default output"
11:11.47moviuro_(also, all caps is bad, and you should feel bad)
11:11.51moviuro_:p
11:12.07moviuro_I'm sorry, I don't use the sound on my current machine
11:12.24moviuro_though I don't have any issues with my other one (pulse + alsa)
11:12.25cekand when amarok is open, it's some grayed out "Dummy Ouput" and "Built in Audio Analog Stereo "
11:12.44ceknone of which passes TEST
11:13.06moviuro_cek: did you rebbot since you instlalled pulse?
11:13.26cekmoviuro_: if you don't have enough knowledge, don't help.
11:13.46cekwhy would I rebootk, pulse deamon was killed with -k and restarted
11:14.05moviuro_cek: because pulse is a black box
11:14.20cekI suspect some linkage problem, but again, I recompiled kde when upgraded from 4.11 to 4.12
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11:15.42moviuro_cek: why not 4.13.1, then?
11:19.44moviuro_cek: and if by knowledge you mean deep understanding of a program that bugs you, I'm not sure many people could actually help. My own personnal experience with a variety of software and issues I had to deal with however allow me to pinpoint some possible causes, even if I have no or little idea of what happens underneath the surface.
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11:37.50LapJuphow do you get quanta in wysiwyg mode?
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11:40.17scummosquanta?
11:41.13LapJupkde's html editor
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11:41.43scummosyou mean quanta+? that has been discontinued for at least 2 years now
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11:42.23scummosand that's officially, effectively it's probably been like 5 years
11:42.35LapJuphmmmm
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11:42.57LapJupwith what has it been replace?
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11:43.44LapJupand fedora has  it
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11:43.58scummosparts of it were merged into kdevelop
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11:44.01scummosparts of it are unmaintained
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11:44.30LapJuphmm
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11:44.54LapJupwhat's kdevelop?
11:45.26scummosan IDE based on the same foundation as quanta+
11:45.27DaZkde ide
11:45.38scummosit has good PHP support so if you do PHP you might want to look
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11:46.10DaZdunno
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11:46.59DaZso far the best programming environment that also satisfies my freetard needs is vim
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11:47.33DaZjetbrains stuff is also great, although not so free ,_,
11:48.37LapJupso anyway, how do you get quanta in wysiwyg mode?
11:49.07DaZdoes quanta even have wysiwyg :v
11:49.21scummosI would be surprised if it had
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11:49.44LapJupoh, maybe that is why i can't do wysiwyg wiht it :-)
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11:53.19brlihi, need some help about http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/AppMenu+QML?content=146098
11:53.50brliin contents/config/main.xml b/plasma-applet-appmenu-qml/contents/config/main.xml
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11:54.43moviuro_brli: which distro do you use? do you have all required dependencies?
11:54.59brliChakra, and yes
11:55.10brlithe problem isn't on the package itself
11:55.20brlibut on the method it call for suspend to RAM
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11:55.55brlithere is a side note says: Activate the following and remove the qdbus commands above when the plasma/viranch/powermanagementservices branch is finally merged in kde-workspace master
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11:56.24brlidue to it can't suspend to RAM(or sleep) well, I dig into it and found this note
11:56.56brlibut after doing the suggestion change, it sleep multiple times then finally wake up
11:58.34moviuro_brli: that's because of a "conflict" between acpid and KDE power manager
11:59.00moviuro_I turned off all options of KDE power manager and then turned them on one by one
11:59.21moviuro_so now, KDE only takes care of turning th screen off when I press the power button
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12:08.16brlimoviuro_: hmm, now, I'm quite convinced that it is the conlict between kde and acpid :|
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12:08.33brliany chance it can be tickled out?
12:08.49moviuro_brli: turn KDE power manager off
12:09.45brlior uninstall acpid?
12:11.56moviuro_brli: dunno, wouldn't try that though
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12:12.16moviuro_(acpid has surely more control over your machine (like HDD spin up/down, etc.)
12:12.26AjvenHi, there is anyway to make kde full transparent ?
12:13.38moviuro_Ajven: yes, take a look at QtCurve or bespin; konsole has its own transparency config
12:13.48moviuro_oxygen-transparent too
12:13.51moviuro_IIRC
12:14.10Ajvenwhat about delphin ?
12:14.18Ajvendolphin* i mean
12:14.47DaZbespin can argb all the things
12:14.51moviuro_dolphin will use the theme (QtCurve or bespin or Oxygen...)
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12:24.34Ajveni downloand bespin, found some transparent theme but no metter what i change in bespin i dont see changes
12:25.15moviuro_Ajven: did you set your theme to bespin? Do you use Compositing (desktop effects) ?
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12:26.35AjvenCompositing is on, i load theme from bespin if you ask about it
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12:32.47moviuro_Ajven: did you try closing/opening the application(s)?
12:32.54Ajvenyes i did
12:34.15moviuro_bespin > Windows > Translucent Windows (Experimental) > Opacity, right?
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12:35.01Ajvennot working
12:35.10Ajvenit dont making my widonws translucent
12:35.35moviuro_then go for QtCurve
12:35.53moviuro_(worked back in 2010-2011 like a charm)
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12:40.43Ajvensame effect with qtcurve
12:41.05scummosyou have compositing enabled?
12:41.09Ajvenyes
12:47.34Ajveni'll try to reboot
12:48.31moviuro_good luck, Ajven
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12:54.45brlihmm, not a acpid-kde problem
12:54.52brliit still sleep for a few times
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13:00.53AjvenWell its look like i worry about - http://s10.postimg.org/5qp56679j/ss1.jpg
13:01.03Ajvendolphin its not transparent
13:01.15Ajvensame like pidgin
13:01.30brliAjven: pidgin is gtk
13:01.52brlithat is totally different story
13:02.02brliwhile dolphin, that shouldn't be
13:02.24Ajvenso there is some way to make all software transparenty ?
13:03.26brlidunnu, at least, dolphin+Qtcurve transparency should work
13:03.51Ajvenits even possible to make kde look good o_O
13:05.17moviuro_Ajven: for your own sake, I recommend you change your colors
13:05.28moviuro_or put a bit more alpha ^_^
13:06.19moviuro_http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/148510-1.png
13:09.18moviuro_erf, why did he leave? x)
13:10.54brliI bet a few if-else sentense or loop can debug the silly multiple sleep action
13:11.32moviuro_brli: you could ask your distro, too
13:11.44brliam there
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13:11.48`marianne`hiya
13:11.59brlibut sadly, no hacker of kde code there :?
13:12.13`marianne`i'm having a bit of a problem with kde, can't find multiple monitors settings anywhere
13:12.19`marianne`my displays are just mirroring
13:12.50`marianne`"display and monitor" in the system settings only shows the screen locker settings
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13:13.37moviuro_`marianne`: you're not getting any highlight from me anymore with a such nickname ;) : systemsettings > display & monitor > size & orientation
13:13.41moviuro_oh
13:13.53moviuro_some parts of KDE are missing, then
13:13.54`marianne`yeah..
13:14.11`marianne`do i need to install extra packages of some kind? (i'm on linux mint 17)
13:14.37moviuro_mint17 KDE is not ready yet
13:14.39moviuro_AFAIK
13:14.51`marianne`well poop
13:14.58moviuro_(added it yesterday to my PXE boot server but there was no KDE iso)
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13:15.05`marianne`i was testing it as an alternative to MATE
13:15.18`marianne`i mean, i installed mint 17, then installed the kde package
13:15.26`marianne`kde-common or something? maybe kde-standard?
13:15.31`marianne`can't remember the package name exactly
13:16.08scummos-meta?
13:16.09`marianne`i'm just running it in virtualbox right now
13:17.00`marianne`there's no kde-meta package according to aptitude
13:18.02`marianne`i'm gonna try kde-full
13:18.18`marianne`kde-INSTALL-ALL-THE-PACKAGES
13:19.17wiebelsince 4.13 it seems to be impossible to make multiple vpn connections, is that a known problem?
13:19.22`marianne`also, moviuro_, someone else took the marianne nick D:
13:19.44scummosdon't start your nick with fancy characters, then people can use tab ;)
13:19.48scummosinstead add them at the end
13:19.48moviuro_you should have reserved it :p
13:19.50`marianne`and they last logged in a year ago D: D: D:
13:19.55scummosalso that
13:20.05`marianne`usually it's unused in most places
13:20.12`marianne`wait, 2 years ago!
13:20.21`marianne`when does freenode release nicks?
13:21.08scummosI'd guess not at all
13:21.26`marianne`i'm gonna ask the freenode staff
13:21.33`marianne`maybe they will manually release it
13:21.49`marianne`for now though, yeah, i should change to marianne`
13:22.11`marianne`i just get mildly OCD about symmetry
13:22.15`marianne`yay for asperger's :D
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13:27.57marianne`damn it, all kde-full gave me extra was gamma settings
13:28.15marianne`in the display and monitor settings
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13:36.20scummos:D
13:37.31marianne`puts an alanis morissette album on :D
13:37.39marianne`my first CD, when i was 12!
13:37.51marianne`i was a girl of taste :D
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13:42.41cb400fstill am apparently... choosing KDE ;-)
13:43.13marianne`well honestly i usually use MATE
13:43.17marianne`and before that, fluxbox
13:44.44marianne`and KDE is not gonna be used unless it supports multiple monitors
13:44.46marianne`i have 3
13:44.49marianne`one of them is 3D :D
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13:50.35scummosKDE does support multiple monitors ...
13:51.11marianneWOOO!!!
13:51.15mariannei has this nick!!!
13:51.18marianneit is MINE :D
13:51.58moviuro_sweet, marianne, but yeah, if you want to test a real KDE, go for a Kubuntu live ;) not some unfinished unready Mint ;)
13:52.02BluesKajhappy nickday! :)
13:52.21marianneunfinished?? it's a long term release!
13:52.54mariannebut yeah, i can do that in a VM :D
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13:54.33moviuro_marianne: mint always releases KDE after MATE and Cinnamon
13:59.20marianneyeah, i get what you mean :)
13:59.24mariannesorry, i'm a bit high on anxiety meds
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14:08.54moviuro_marianne: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2594
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14:28.21MorleyIs KDE Connect still in development? Particularly the file transfer aspect.
14:28.54scummosI think so
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14:35.47MorleyJust wondering as it's a seemingly great concept, but doesn't work too well with my Galaxy S3. e.g. Dolphin locks for around 30 seconds when first clicking on the device and doesn't actuall show any files when it becomes responsive again.
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14:36.34moviuro_Morley: AFAIK, file transfer is a WIP
14:37.19Morleymoviuro_: Yes, I saw a blog post saying something similar, just heard nothing on the matter for a while. Guess we just need to have faith!
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14:38.05brlikde connect != MTP support
14:41.03MorleyMTP on Linux is a state anyway.
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14:44.39moviuro_journald: "QR codes are served, as well." ? <- whaat ?
14:44.47moviuro_http://boycottsystemd.org/
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15:00.14natsukaohi
15:00.16natsukaohttp://beta.slashdot.org/story/179639 and  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.gnu.general
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15:18.33a_hi, i have problems with keyoard detection, can someone help me pls?
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15:19.53moviuro_a_: explain your problem
15:20.05a_i cant use the functions keys
15:20.16a_volume, brightness etc.
15:21.50moviuro_a_: report "xev"'s output when you press these keys
15:22.12a_sorry, but how to?
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15:22.43moviuro_open a konsole, type xev <ENTER>
15:23.24moviuro_and then press your keyboard
15:23.56a_print screen?
15:24.15moviuro_no, the function keys
15:24.25moviuro_this should write things in the konsole/terminal
15:24.45a_the konsole is full of text
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15:27.04a_http://paste.kde.org/plmec84fw
15:27.52moviuro_a_: so your keys do work, they aren't interpreted by KDE
15:28.12a_:(
15:28.17a_what can i do?
15:28.33moviuro_so go to "Global shortcuts" somewhere in systemsettings, try to find "decrease brightness" and add the good shortcut (your function key)
15:29.15a_i tried it
15:29.29a_it doesn't recognize the key
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15:32.04dk0rjust did a fresh aname -rrch install (
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15:34.29a_trying shift+alt for changing keyboard layout pops an error
15:35.44dk0rjust did a fresh arrch install (kernel 3.14.4) using kde 4.13.1.. I've noticed that the cursor in Konsole is offset by 4 characters to the right of where typed text is displayed.. Anyone seen this or a fix?
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15:37.04scummossure that's not a shell bug?
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15:37.59dk0rscummos, how may I be certain? if I goto a terminal tty, the problem does not occur
15:38.07scummostry xterm
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15:40.36dk0rxterm is the terminal shown when selecting a different tty? for example, pressing Ctrl+alt+F1 brings me to tty1 w/ xterm?
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15:41.05moviuro_a_: shift+Alt canoot be used as a shortcut as they are both modifier keys
15:41.21moviuro_you need to add a real key (like Q, K ou /)
15:41.29a_ohh ok
15:41.52moviuro_modifier = Ctrl, Alt, Shift, Windope
15:42.03a_what can i do with the function keys?
15:43.22moviuro_mine work great and output the same thing as yours with xev, so IDK
15:47.19a_moviuro_: looks like brightness keys are working
15:47.35a_but i dont get any indication on screen of brightness level
15:48.22dk0rscummos, using the Monspace font in Konsole was the problem. Switching from Monospace to Clean resolved cursor offset issue
15:48.30scummosah, interesting
15:48.40scummosno, xterm is the x terminal emulator thingy
15:48.48scummosit's like konsole but without features
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15:50.15Third3yescummos: or features you'll have to configure in your bash profile and then relog
15:50.29scummosyeah
15:50.30Third3yeor just source profile, ofc
15:50.31scummosbut mostly just no features
15:50.33scummos:D
15:50.41Third3yeTrue
15:51.19moviuro_a_: I don't on my computer eihther because the number of levels was way too low to be usefull (3 levels IIRC)
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15:57.53a_well for me is the opposite too many levels i have to press it for long time to see ant difference in screen brightness
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16:06.48lgrHi
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16:07.44lgrI have compiled KDE 4.13 using kdesrc-build, and I have some problems running KDE. Can someone help me a few minutes?
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16:20.07[melko]does somebody know how to actually free some space when clearing akonadi(kmail) cache?
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16:30.17LapJuphow does one make konqueror the default web browser?
16:32.05lgrin the systemsettings
16:32.18lgrthere is an entry « default applications » if I remember
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16:36.11LapJupin konqueror or someplace else
16:36.24cb400fsystemsettings -> default applications -> webbrowser
16:37.16LapJupin firefox there is a button in the firefox settings to make ff the default browser. you ought to put a similar button in konq's preferences :-)
16:37.53LapJupthanks cb400f and lgr :-)
16:38.24fairchow do I change the theme of yakuke?
16:40.11cb400fin the appearance settings
16:40.31BluesKajfairc, right click in yakuake, edit current profile >appearance tab
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16:41.47faircBluesKaj: I see only color sheme and background there, I think themes is something different
16:42.14fairclike the look of the yakuke "title bar"
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16:45.48cb400ffairc: that's why you want to click the settings button -> configure yakuake -> appearance
16:46.21BluesKajfairc, yes it is , but i don't think an individual theme than the one chosen in system settings>workspace appearance is available for yakuake
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16:52.23BluesKajcb400f, good suggestion for fairc, I never bothered with that before
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17:11.20dk0rWhen I log into kde 4.13.1, my irc client which autostarts @ login fails to connect because NetworkManager takes a couple seconds after logging in before connecting to wifi. Any recommendations?
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17:46.41aerofoamDo I have a broken KDE? It doesn't want to play nicely with Xinerama. All I want to do it set up a little edge resistance so I don't have to stumble back to display #1 just to hit the scroll bar.
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17:50.30aerofoamopenSUSE 13.1, KDE4.11.5
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18:15.12fairccb400f: where is this configure yakuke button? I can't find it.
18:16.13cb400ffairc: bottom right.. next to the "close" button ... "Open Menu"
18:16.30moviuro_why is there some txt offset in my konsole while displaying # systemctl status on the lines where there is a dot? is it due to my font or to the konsole?
18:16.38fairccb400f: aaaah
18:16.45faircfound it, thanks
18:17.06DaZmoviuro_: it's font
18:17.42aerofoamfont
18:17.47moviuro_meh... I love my font :'( ok, which one would you (all) recommend?
18:19.40aerofoamI use monospace 9
18:20.46moviuro_that would be my last option, aerofoam, I grew tired of it ;)
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18:42.48aerofoamI just use it because it's clean and human readable in term. You can go with comic sans if you want.
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19:12.36Remuzmoviuro_: I like Zekton. It's futuristic but still readable, not everyone's cup of tea though.
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19:21.19dk0rso I have sound when I do a test on the default playback device in Audio and Video Settings > Audio Playback > Test
19:21.26dk0rbut nothing from my browser
19:21.52dk0rkmix shows all channels are unmutted and volume maximized
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19:27.50aerofoamDoes it reproduce in a different browser?
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19:57.16dk0ranyone gotten 'time until full battery recharge' to work on their laptop?
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19:59.52aerofoamupower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
20:00.42aerofoamI gues acpi -v would do it too.
20:01.04dk0r-v?
20:01.16dk0rthat's versioning flag
20:01.40dk0ralso, upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0  doesn't report time remaining
20:02.05dk0rcorrection, I meant, time until fully charged
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21:31.21AndrzejLhttp://julianoliver.com/output/log_2014-05-30_20-52
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21:35.30zatDevs here?
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21:47.15zatI want to know if there are any news about wayland support for kwin.
21:47.22zatI haven't found much on the web.
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21:58.00Cyb3r-Assassinsettings > system settings > start up shutdown > Strtup Services. There are a few services that I have to go in and turn on manually each time. How do you tell kde to turn on $x every time? Like Power Management. They are all check boxed.
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22:38.13StallmanuHow can I remove something from the system tray without having plasma-desktop working?
22:38.45StallmanuI suspect milou is causing issues from the system tray https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332866
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22:45.55SamwiseGamgeewhenever I try to delete files, Kubuntu keeps telling me my trash has reached its maximum size\
22:46.14SamwiseGamgeethereś nothing inside my trash, so what do I do?
22:46.40SamwiseGamgeeI even checked for hidden files, there´s nothing in there
22:46.48StallmanuSeems it was milou, working now by removing it from the system tray but quite an annoying bug
22:47.06SamwiseGamgeewhat?
22:56.02aerofoamSamwise "rm ~/.local/share/Trash/metadata" does that fix it?
22:56.28aerofoamAlso, Did you delete anything as root?
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22:57.54zatI want to know if there are any news about wayland support for kwin.
22:57.54zatI haven't found much on the web.
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23:01.12Stallmanuzat: I think they are more focused on getting KDE5 out first
23:01.16SamwiseGamgeeI don´t even have the right trash icon on my desktop
23:01.30SamwiseGamgeethat command did not work, aerofoam
23:02.20zatStallmanu: if thats porting all apps to qt5 then I guess it can be considered part of it.
23:07.19aerofoamSamwize https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245482
23:09.08aerofoamzat everything I'm reading is that it's in pre-alpha " It is not yet able to manage Wayland Clients but can use another Wayland compositor as a rendering target instead of X" since 4.11
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23:10.41zataerofoam: thats the solution of running it over weston for example?
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23:15.00aerofoamNot sure. I didn't know what wayland was befor 10 minutes ago.
23:18.28zatlol aerofoam
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23:59.25NoirSoldatsI'm using KDE on a laptop with Optimus and I've gotten the external monitors to detect.. but all I can do is clone the screen to them... I can't get them to be 'to the left' or 'to the right' or anything, if I try all but one monitor shuts down..

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