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00:56.59SnowhogLooking for help with Contact Groups in KMail 4.13.1. I've created a Contact Group. That group is visible in Contacts. But using it in a new email fails as KMail reports: The email address you entered is not valid because it does not contain a '.'. You will not create valid messages if you do not change your address.
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01:23.23rdieterSnowhog: seems like it's talking about your (from) address, not the recipient(s)
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01:23.45rdieter(or maybe not, but the message does sound a bit ambiguous)
01:25.37Snowhogrdieter: No, as the email I create does have my "From" email address. It's the Contract Group name that it is complaining about.
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01:26.01rdieterall email has a "From"
01:26.21rdieterbut you're most-likely right about the source of the complaint
01:30.11Snowhogrdieter: I can't find anything current via Google. I'm amazed that KMail allows me to create Contact Groups, but then doesn't recognize them for use in an email.
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03:49.24olskolircanyone get java or flash working in rekonq.  nobody around in #rekonq
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05:33.06shal3r_Is it possible to somehow run script when locking KDE session and run another script on unlock?
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06:25.21Penguiniatorshal3r_: Yes.  Open System Settings, then select the System Notification Configuration dialog, then the Manage Notifications page.  In the Event Source drop down select Screen Saver.  The two events, Screen locked and Screen unlocked can have a script associated with them.  At the bottom of the dialog check Run command and enter the path to your script.
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06:32.18shal3r_Penguiniator, thank you!
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07:18.34MamarokAhmednur: if you need help, ask in this channel, don't send PMs
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07:23.24Ahmednuroh sorry.now i get it
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07:25.40Ahmednurhow do i install 3rd party repos on my fedora16 and how do i upgrade to fed17?all my effort seem to fail.
07:25.48Safa_[A_boy]Hello. I am using ArchLinux and I don't see any sensor in KSysGuard
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07:28.20MamarokAhmednur: that you should ask in a Fedora channel. Also try to google for the answer, I am pretty sure you can find all answers online, like this one, for example: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading
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07:31.44Ahmednurthanks for the advice.
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08:55.21sftphi. on my system file .local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error have size 530M and constantly increasing. yesterday it was 30G and i removed it. how can i fix it?
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08:56.45sftpbtw, it contains 5 uniq strings: `cat .local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error | sort -u | wc -l` output is `5`
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09:11.05vindvakisftp: I don't know if it will work in this instance, but a common trick for problems like this is to "lock the file"
09:11.16vindvakii.e. to remove the write permission
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09:22.55sftpvindvaki: or link it to /dev/null :)
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09:24.56sftp... but i prefer to find solution of problem, not a solution of side-effect
09:25.29vindvakisftp: Yeah, so you have 5 huge error messages in that file?
09:27.19vindvakiwell, I wouldn't know how to fix it anyway
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09:30.22sftpvindvaki: no, it seems one and same set of errors repeates many times
09:31.48vindvakiwell, at this point I would try to make sense of that message and try to find a relevant bug at the kde bugtracker
09:32.39sftpheh, you are right. i will do it asap
09:32.42vindvakisftp: sorry I can't be of more help :(
09:33.44sftpvindvaki: no problem
09:35.07sftpbtw, if someone read the conversation below, here's unique lines in my huge error log: http://codepad.org/anMhYjZg
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10:09.54ovidiu-florinwhat is the translations channel for kde?
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10:10.46Kitzuovidiu-florin, you want to contribute to translations?
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10:11.13ovidiu-florinI already do. I'm trying to find where is "Locals and Stack" used in the kate gdb plugin
10:11.24Kitzutry #kde-devel
10:12.53ovidiu-florinthak you
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10:19.02BluesKaj;
10:19.28BluesKaj'Morning all
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12:16.22schallusionHi,
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12:18.16schallusioni want to ask if there is a standard way, if i want to pledge some money to get a bug fixed. i thought about www.bountysource.com/ and post that link in the bug tracker/report. what do you think?
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12:28.22paralaXhi, when i try to edit user information in KDE settings the settins windows freezes after entering my password and i hove to force-close it. this happens every time. i believe its the same issue as here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144577 so far i have found no solution to my problem. is there someone who has any idea how to solve this<
12:28.24paralaX?
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14:08.05SilentHello :)
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14:09.58SilentI'd like to write an app that had a kde marble plugin
14:10.03SilentWhat api should I use for that?
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14:20.10moviuro_Silent: http://techbase.kde.org/Welcome_to_KDE_TechBase <- should be a good place to start looking for something, also, you can ask #kde-devel (if they don't consider your request off-topic)
14:20.39Silentmoviuro_, Thanks :)
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14:38.04moviuro_yw schallusion
14:38.12moviuro_oops, wrong HL, sorry
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14:45.35certemhi
14:45.51certemcan I ask a question about Dolphin here?
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14:49.09moviuro_certem: yes
14:49.35moviuro_certem: never ask to ask, just ask ;) if it's off-topic, people will tell you ;)
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14:50.10certemyou're right but sometimes people do that in a very rude way
14:50.14certemanyway
14:50.31certemI use my box with language set to english
14:51.13DaZwtg!
14:51.24certembut I want to be able to use some local characters in file names and Dolphin displays "?" or some other strange symbols instead of local characters
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14:52.31certemmoviuro_ can you suggest me something?
14:53.05DaZcheck locale in terminal
14:53.13moviuro_certem: make sure that the locales are correctly generated
14:54.10certemI have locales set correctly because they're running fine in another desktop (XFCE4)
14:55.45certemI'll be back later.
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15:22.21certemI'm back :)
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15:34.53obsedHi, does anyone know if I can save the x,y position co-ordinates of VLC, and its resizing information, to a file or an application, and then apply these position and size settings to vlc whenever i want ?
15:35.33obsed(i have a tv with overscan issues, i can manually resize vlc to the correct position and size, i just want to save this information rather than resizing every time i reboot, or if vlc decides to resize at times or is closed)
15:35.58obsed(good tv overscan issue primer: http://www.engadget.com/topics/hd/2010/05/27/hd-101-overscan-and-why-all-tvs-do-it/ )
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15:48.49obsedcan i manually set the position of a window via the commandline in KDE ?
15:49.11obsedand/or also use the commandline to resize a window ?
15:52.32qdatawhat I do is right click on the title bar, select More Actions, then either special window or special application settings
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15:53.38qdataif it's the main window, mostly I use the Size & Position tab and set the Position and Size to Apply Initially
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15:54.36qdatafor sub windows I use the Window Matching tab and it's Detect Window Properties function and try and choose something specific to the sub windo
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15:55.11obsedqdata: ahh thanks. that could work quite nicely when im using vlc on the TV
15:55.12qdatasome apps try and remember settings on their own and when activated can sometimes interfere and/or clash with this
15:55.28qdatait can get tricky at times
15:55.34obsedthough not sure what i'll do, when i want to use VLC on the main lcd too
15:55.51obsedqdata: i would just set it to force vlc to the correct position and size on the hdtv heh
15:56.02obsedthat should work. except it wont work when i use vlc on the inbuilt lcd
15:56.45qdatawhen/if you make a mistake and wish to delete and start over you will find these in systemsettings -> Window Behavior -> Window Rules
15:57.39qdatathere's a lot of settings to choose to play with and sometimes some degree of trial and error 'til you get it the way you want it
15:57.51qdatabut once you do it remembers
15:58.13obsedyeah there will be a fair bit trial n error
15:58.37obsedunless maybe i can resize vlc with the mouse, then "read" what its x,y position and size is
15:58.52qdatabut that's the general process in a nutshell
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16:00.16obsedahh thanks, that general process should work i think
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16:03.35obsedit is quite nice, vlc's detached playlist can live on the laptop lcd and be unnaffected by forced window settings, whereas the video is on the tv
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16:04.05obsedahh it seems to put in the current window settings in there too :D
16:04.18obsedsweeeet, no trial and error qdata !!
16:04.36qdataIt;s one of the things in combination with virtual desktops and multiple monitors I love in KDE
16:04.41obsedwho the fuck would want to use something other than KDE? i cant believe how good it is !!
16:04.58obsedi can't believe its not butter
16:05.33obsedqdata: ah man yeah i love multiple monitors, and kde totally KICKS ASS at that
16:05.50qdatawell KDE has it's own share of problems, but I do love it for it's plasticity
16:06.09obsedi'm not sure what kde's problems are
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16:06.22obsedthe only prob i had, was minimized apps where faded in the taskbar/windowlist
16:06.45obsedi posted a NOP solution to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311991
16:06.54qdataI have complaints, and am somewhat dismayed at what I perceive as a bad downward trend but I still can't swict away from it  :-)
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16:07.03obsedand then found Eike Hein has posted a much better way to fix it, editing a .qml file
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16:12.53obsedqdata: hmm maybe i can make a shortcut to launch vlc with a custom title, and apply hdtv settings only to that
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16:13.09obsedso then i have a shortcut for "vlc in hdtv mode"
16:13.16obsedand i can use a different instance of vlc for anything else
16:16.15obsedthat prob wont work, dont see a vlc --custom-title option
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16:47.59Muzeris there a nice KDE way of setting a custom resolution (if the EDID is broken)? Or is doing it the manual way (which I can never quite remember) the only way?
16:49.01cb400fif your gfx driver supports xrandr, you can set resolution in systemsettings (with krandr or kscreen depending on which your distro ships)
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16:54.31obsedseems to have worked, vlc is set to the right position and size on the hdtv
16:54.32Muzercb400f: ah. I have the "Display and Monitor/Size & Orientation" screen in systemsettings. I'm unsure what my distro ships (I'm using Gentoo). I can't find any options to use a custom resolution (ie one not on the list) through that - do I need to install one of these alternatives?
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16:55.31cb400fah, it's not even listed.. I thought you only had a problem with the native/default res
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16:55.55cb400fdunno if you can force a custom one
16:56.09Muzerno, I have to use xrandr --newmode
16:56.15Muzerbrb, apologies, I'll be back in a bit
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17:01.30obsedMuzer: for a custom resolution, maybe you need to generate a custom modeline perhaps ??
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17:11.26Muzerback
17:11.36Muzerobsed: yeah, I know how to do it on the command line, but I have to look it up each time which is just a pain
17:12.00obsedMuzer: yeah i've made custom modelines before, but i dont remember how lol
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17:16.30Muzerobsed: cvt x y refresh_rate; take the output from the thing after Modeline onwards and put it as arguments to xrandr --newmode. Then xrandr --addmode display modename and finally xrandr --output display --mode modename
17:16.35Muzerwhich is a pain :P
17:16.41Muzer(and you can see why I always forget how to do it)
17:16.47MuzerI suppose I could write a script
17:17.58obsedMuzer: ooh simple !
17:18.15obsedmaybe i can do that to fix my tv overscan.
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17:19.05obsedanyhow, maybe i can script the vlc window settings
17:19.20Muzerbut yeah
17:19.23Muzerit's also only temporary
17:19.24Muzerie one boot
17:19.29obsedor apply the window settings only to a particular instance of vlc
17:19.37obsedMuzer: the modeline is only one boot ?
17:19.50obsedi guess you can put it in a script somewhere so it runs each boot
17:20.06MuzerI think you should really put it in an xorg.conf
17:20.10MuzerI'm not sure about the best practice nowadays though
17:20.24Muzerhowever, I only need it when I plug it into a certain TV which I rarely use
17:20.31obsedi scripted my openbsd kde 4.11 desktop with perl and dbus-monitor so that when no one is logged in or using the PC agressive power saving is enabled
17:20.36Muzerwhich is why I haven't been motivated to script it before :p
17:20.42Muzerbut since I'm thinking of it now, I thought I may as well
17:21.08obsedthen if someone is logged into KDE then high performance mode is activated, and of course if screensaver activates it goes into powersave/high-cooling,  and back to high performance if they enter the pass in the screensaver.  and on and on
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17:21.22obsedyeah might as well script it Muzer
17:22.37obsedMuzer: Linux, you only need a computer science education to configure it :-D
17:24.39Muzerhehe
17:24.47Muzerluckily that's what I'm getting ;)
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17:25.19Muzer(I've done quite a lot of bash scripting in my spare time anyway, I haven't actually learnt much python which I'm quite embarrassed about - if I need to write a script, I tend to write it in bash even if it's totally inappropriate :p)
17:28.57obsedhmm thankfully python is/was easy to learn Muzer
17:29.10obsedi was learning assembly programming and software exploitation right
17:29.15obsedthey seem to like python for the fuzzers
17:29.39obsedso then i had to learn python,  and learning python was like a nice easy breeze de-stress to take a break from learning asm lol
17:29.58Muzeryeah. I've learnt a little python here and there
17:30.04Muzerbut not really used it to make anything, just enough to hack on things
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17:44.10AlexRussiaHi!Somewhere i can get documentation about KDE Identity?
17:44.30AlexRussiaTechnical documentation
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18:02.30obsedbest way to script the kde  systemsettings | window behaviour | Window Rules  ?
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18:04.09obsedI was thinking of making a script to put the ~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrulesrc file in place, and another script to move it out of place (and put one in without vlc rules).  then have two icon shortcuts to enable/disable that
18:04.24obsedi dont know if kwin reads that file straight away though
18:04.50obsedno it does not, lol
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18:21.43grobda24How do I change file associations for *all* image file types so they all start with (for example) Gwenview ?
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18:30.10cb400fyou click around in systemsettings for 90 seconds... faster than asking that question ;-)
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18:56.22HaikarainenHey, I'm having a weird issue
18:56.26HaikarainenI have static noise playing, it's under "Event Sounds" in KMix, as when I mute that channel it stops
18:56.49Haikarainenit sounds like some sound buffer has gotten stuck or something and is repeatedly playing
18:57.10Haikarainenbut a very very small buffer (like 2-20ms or something)
18:57.32moviuro_Haikarainen: try muting your microphone?
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18:58.06Haikarainenmoviuro_: Actually I thought it was hardware related at first, I've unplugged my headset and plugged in my regular sound system instead and it still persists
18:58.12HaikarainenIt IS playing from Event sounds
18:58.18HaikarainenI can even lower the volume on it
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18:59.59HaikarainenCan someone highlight me? I wanna see if it goes away if I get an actual event sound
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19:00.36HaikarainenSonderblade: Care to highlight me?
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20:04.28silver_hookIs there a way to restart a specific plasmoid?
20:05.21silver_hookThe first eventlist instance crashes on me and then claims that the object cannot be built/found.
20:05.44silver_hookWhich is funny because the other 3 instances of the eventlist plasmoid work just fine :P
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21:14.38Peste_BubonicaHi folks.. upgrading my kernel from 3.13.11 to 3.14.4, kde goes to a black screen, only with the mouse cursor working.. Where can I start a debug? Xorg log shows nothing anormal.
21:15.13Peste_Bubonicai'm using KDE 4.12.5
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23:22.42r_riosHey. I'm testing Plasma Nxt
23:23.04r_riosHey. I'm testing Plasma Next right now and I'd like to know where to report plasma-nm/Next bugs
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