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07:12.14lordievaderGood morning.
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07:54.55jahdhi all
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07:55.32jahd<PROTECTED>
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07:56.05jahdI have some windows shown in the task manager (the bottom bar that shows all the open windows) and one of them is purple (the active one)
07:56.36jahdthats ok but some are red
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08:02.15jahdthat is in the androibit theme, and I am just testing the default oxygen, and the "red" windows now appears as white
08:02.29jahdI can't still figure it out, what does that mean?
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08:32.46obsedhow do i make it so i can press ALT+D on the keyboard, and have the keyboard cursor jump into the location bar ?
08:33.03obsedi dont want to use ctrl+l
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08:34.46obsedahh found it, awesome
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10:01.44sandman13anyone out there?
10:03.40DaZno ;c
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10:04.28sandman13DaZ: I am experiencing an issue with a theme in KDE
10:06.01sandman13The Theme is Caledonia. This is how it looks like in Debian KDE 4.8: http://imgur.com/5cyimBe and this is how it looks like in Chakra and rest of the distros with KDE: http://imgur.com/e2ViloN
10:06.37sandman13I don't understand whose fault is this, distro's or KDE's
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10:59.59BluesKaj'Morning folks
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11:02.55sandman13morning
11:03.05sandman13or to be precise evening here
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11:17.14BluesKajwell, hello sandman13 ")
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11:17.28sandman13hi BluesKaj
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12:30.08Bundestrojanerhello
12:31.22grobda24Bundestrojaner, hi
12:32.50BundestrojanerI've created an alsa-konfig which does 2.0->2.1-upmix. I've defined a pcm.phonon for it (like described here:http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc#Phonon) to my config.
12:32.50BundestrojanerNow i can choose it in VLC with the name defined by description.
12:32.50BundestrojanerBut it's still not listed in KDE's audio settings.
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12:52.37FiXionhi guys. I somehow messed up my kde.
12:52.56FiXionI installed skype - and it installed 200+ packages (I figured it was odd - but guess it knew what it was doing)
12:53.11FiXionI figure I must have had a wrong sources file from something :(
12:53.21FiXionafter that I cannot login to KDE
12:53.26FiXionlogin on console works fine
12:53.45FiXionkde hangs right after login screen disappears - only showing background image - and hangs there indefinetely
12:53.49FiXionit does not touch my home
12:54.00FiXionI tried creating a new user and no files are created in his home folder
12:54.06FiXionI tried do-relase-upgrade to 14.04
12:54.12FiXionit still does not work :(
12:54.43FiXionwhat is the first thing KDE does after login has cleared.. some graphics driver or something that I could check?
12:54.53FiXionit's an Intel NUC.. so there should be no odd driver necessary
12:55.29FiXionit does not even create .Xsession-errors file
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12:59.32BluesKajFiXion, did you run update and upgrade ?
12:59.39thiagoso the problem is not KDE, but the login itself
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13:07.13FiXionBluesKaj: yes. I tried do-relase-upgrade as well. boots 14.04 now and login on console works fine.
13:07.52FiXionI got it to actually show something, by installed packages that apt logged it had removed, when I unfortunately installed skype
13:08.41BluesKajFiXion, what about the lightdm login ? if not try sudo service lightdm start
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13:09.26FiXiongot the rest working now. simply took all packages the: apt-get install skype - had removed and ran apt-get install.
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13:10.17FiXionBluesKaj: appearently some very important packages had been removed ( I still do not know how apt-get install skype - made apt-get suggest that :) - which made startkde totally halt :(
13:11.35BluesKajskype is now a MS app, so I'm not sure how well it's maintained in Linux
13:13.08FiXionBluesKaj: I know. had a customer badgering me about coming on skype to help them :(
13:13.15FiXionI gave in..
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13:13.27BluesKajok , understood
13:13.28FiXiongot punished for it :)
13:13.43FiXionI'm just glad apt-get logs everything it does atleast :)
13:13.55FiXionI had to work on a windows computer an entire day :(
13:14.00FiXionbecause mine was broken
13:14.46FiXionwill go enjoy the sun.. and the fact that his regular desktop is working and ready for tomorrow :)
13:15.06BluesKajyeah, I keep windows around for those situations...it's a pain , but sometimes easier to deal with
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14:54.03haridasAny idea how I can avoid this problem ?
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15:07.11Bundestrojanerhello
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15:08.02BundestrojanerI've defined a pcm.phonon (like described here:http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc#Phonon) in my asoundrc, but it doesn't appear in KDE's sound settings
15:08.34Bundestrojanerwhat can i do to get it inty my list of audio devices?
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15:10.53BluesKajBundestrojaner, open alsamixer in the terminal, check the audio chip name in the upper left , then we can go from there
15:11.47BundestrojanerBluesKaj: which one shall i use?
15:11.47Bundestrojanermy pc has 4 soundcards
15:12.59BundestrojanerBluesKaj: i defined an upmix 2.0->2.1.
15:12.59Bundestrojanerin vlc, i can select it as alsa-device
15:13.19Bundestrojanerwith the description set for the pcm.phonon
15:13.27Bundestrojanerbut the phonon-settings don't list it
15:13.35BluesKajthen you have to make them as card0, card1, card2 etc in alsa-base.conf
15:14.07BundestrojanerBluesKaj: all my soundcards are listet in the phonon-settings, but not my defined upmix
15:15.32Bundestrojanerhttp://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.asoundrc#Phonon
15:15.32BundestrojanerHere, they say this entry gets phonon to list it
15:17.12BundestrojanerBluesKaj: i've forgotten that my Kubuntu uses pulseaudio as default. idk if that's important
15:17.15BluesKajfor example, options snd_hda_intel index=0 , in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  ....asoundrc is no longer used afaik
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15:20.01BundestrojanerBluesKaj: why shall i define my existing soundcards? they are already listet in phonon and work
15:20.07BluesKajBundestrojaner, you can solidigy your settings with pavucontrol if you use pulseaudio
15:20.09BluesKajf
15:20.21BluesKajsolidify that is
15:20.33lateniteHi folks, How do I show all virtual desktops on one? You know...like showing all apps at once when moving the mouse in the upper left corner.
15:21.04BundestrojanerBluesKaj: and where should i define my upmix if asound.rc is no longer used?
15:21.36Bundestrojanerit works perfectly, only phonon doesn't list the pcm.phonon as audio device - that's the only problem
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15:22.26BluesKajBundestrojaner, then install pavucontrol , it's a gui for pulseaudio
15:22.37Bundestrojaneri'll try that, thx
15:23.42BluesKajlatenite, I don't know of any method to do that, tha'e what virtual desktops are for to separate
15:23.59BluesKajfor separate desktop views
15:25.40BluesKajLat , do you have the virttual desktops availble in the panel as pager widgets?
15:25.56BundestrojanerBluesKaj: it's also not listed in pavucontrol
15:25.56BluesKajoops
15:27.11BluesKajBundestrojaner, upmix , what do mean, a recording input or outboard audio source?
15:27.31BluesKajwhat do you mean , rather
15:28.48BundestrojanerBluesKaj: crossover with digital filters
15:28.49Bundestrojaneri get 2 channels (stereo) audio create 2+LFE
15:29.46BundestrojanerBluesKaj: here's my asoundrc: https://ngb.to/threads/8371-Stereo-gt-2-1-5-1-unter-Linux?p=281437#post281437
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15:30.24Bundestrojanerin line 8, i define a phonon-device
15:30.37Bundestrojanervlc lists it as alsa-device, phonon does not
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15:34.21BluesKajBundestrojaner, sorry. I'm not familiar with using a digital crossover on a computer. I feed my audio system/spdif  into a dac on my amp, since I don't use powered speakers as I suspect you are doing
15:34.22lateniteHow do I delete an icon from a panel?
15:34.55lateniteI drag n dropped it to the panel. But there seems to be now way to remove it
15:35.34BundestrojanerBluesKaj: i use 2 amps (one for stereo speakers, one for sub).
15:35.35BundestrojanerThe crossover is not the problem. When i choose it in vlc as output device, it works perfectly.
15:36.14BundestrojanerBluesKaj: the only problem is, the KDE-mixer refuses to list it as output-device
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15:41.37BluesKajBundestrojaner,but phonon and pavucontrol see the card?
15:42.07Bundestrojanerpavucontrol: does not.
15:42.07BundestrojanerPhonon: how can i check that?
15:42.30lateniteHi, how do I run an app in full screen?
15:43.30BluesKajlatenite,use the f key
15:43.30BundestrojanerBluesKaj: i've found something, but i have to re-login to test it.
15:43.31BundestrojanerI'll return in a minute
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15:45.51lateniteBluesKaj: Simply hitting 'f' does not do anything
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15:46.57BluesKajlatenite, which app?
15:47.18lateniteBluesKaj: terminator
15:47.42lateniteBluesKaj: but basicly any app I want to see full screen
15:47.54lateniteI use geany a lot in fullscreen
15:48.56BluesKajlatenite, is this ubuntu or kubuntu?
15:49.18BluesKajor unity or gnome?
15:49.41lateniteBluesKaj: its arch with kde
15:50.21lateniteAnd I found KDE component kwin setting for fullscreen
15:50.24latenitethey do work now
15:50.26lateniteBUT
15:50.39lateniteit fails to work for the "terminator app"
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15:51.33BluesKajteninator is gtk app, check your settings in system setting application appearance gtk buttons
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15:52.54BundestrojanerBluesKaj: didn't work
15:53.30lateniteBluesKaj: there is no full scrren setting to be set in system setting application appearance gtk
15:53.40latenitewhat am I looking for in there?
15:54.14BluesKajBundestrojaner, did you find pavucontrol in kmenu>multimedia
15:54.40BundestrojanerBluesKaj: yes
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15:56.17BluesKajBundestrojaner, that's why i use vlc for setting my audio output to spdif for multichannel , it just works , i don't bother with kmix
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15:56.53BundestrojanerBluesKaj: did you choose vlc as Phonon-backend?
15:58.10BluesKajBundestrojaner, I have in the past , but gstreamer seems to do the job now
15:58.54BluesKajaltho it wouldn't hurt to try vlc-backend
15:58.56BundestrojanerBluesKaj: right.
15:58.57BundestrojanerBut the signal chain is phonon->gstreamer->pulseaudio->alsa, right?
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16:01.58BluesKajBundestrojaner, not sure, but that could be correct, everything rides on top of alsa afaik
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16:02.59Bundestrojaneryeah, alsa is the low end. But i'm not sure if pa is on gstreamer or gstreamer is on pa.
16:05.20BluesKajBundestrojaner, neither am I. It's a bit confusing how gstreamer and pulse work together, think sgstremer is first in the chain
16:05.48BluesKajsince I don't need PA on this intel laptop
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16:06.49BluesKajwell, I have some things to do ...BB in an hr or so
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16:08.01BundestrojanerBluesKaj: bye, thx for help
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16:43.46MayeulCHello, is there some developers here?
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16:48.10DecusHello
16:48.19DecusHow can I click on a mail and set it as a spam addres on kmail?
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16:49.54DecusAny KMail users around, please?
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16:50.00MayeulCHello
16:50.06DecusHello
16:50.16MayeulCThere seems not to be much activity here
16:50.32MayeulCI don't know about your problem, sorry
16:50.51DecusOh :(
16:50.54DecusWell thanks..
16:50.54StarfighterPilotHello
16:51.10MayeulCah
16:51.13MayeulChello
16:51.14StarfighterPilotI think there's something like 'spam assistant' in Tools menu
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16:51.48StarfighterPilotbut you have to install some additional spam-managing tools
16:52.07DecusYes StarfighterPilot , it says that I don't have anti spam detection software
16:52.18DecusBut it does not give me more info..
16:52.35StarfighterPilotUnfrotunately I don't know what kind software is recommended for this purpose
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16:54.17StarfighterPilotDecus, you could also create a filter to mark all messages from certain contact as spam
16:54.17DecusI don't know people that uses KMail
16:54.31DecusI have lots of bad contacts
16:54.53DecusI'm fine if I can have a button to say
16:55.05Decus«this mail address to the spam!»
16:55.12Decusand every mail from them, to spam
16:55.34StarfighterPilotDecus, you can create a filter and then apply it for certain addresses
16:57.17DecusStarfighterPilot: but can I click on a mail → apply filter → send to spam
16:57.20MayeulCwell, from docs.kde, some anti-spam utilities for kmail are quoted : Bogofilter, SpamAssassin, Annoyance-Filter or GMX Spam Filter [ http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdepim/kmail/the-anti-spam-wizard.html ]
16:57.29Decusand every mail from that address send it to spam?
16:57.56Decusp   bogofilter                                                                                                        - fast Bayesian spam filter (dummy package)
16:58.33DecusI'm going to try this... Hope is that I want
16:58.36DecusI don't know..
16:58.39DecusThanks :)
16:58.52MayeulCIt seems it needs a training period, though
16:59.00MayeulCGood luck!
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17:00.06DecusOops
17:00.09Decusreally?
17:00.11Decusis for my aunt
17:00.14Decushehe
17:00.42MayeulC"its spam detection relies on an initial training phase."
17:03.15DecusMayeulC: crazy T_T
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17:35.20veduhello. How to transfer files between android device and desktop
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18:28.00JiiKooMy Konqueror 4.11 is not able to start the cookie handler service. My KDE is version 4.11.5. How do I fix this problem?
18:30.26thiagofind the file called kded_kcookiejar.so and ldd it
18:30.27JiiKooI'm using openSUSE
18:30.29thiagoanything "not found" ?
18:31.15JiiKooWhere is the file
18:31.25thiagoon your disk
18:32.10JiiKoofind command didn't find it
18:32.18blaisetry locate
18:32.21thiagothat might be the problem
18:32.25blaisefind is pretty worthless
18:32.35thiagoif the file is nowhere on your system, then the cookie jar module is missing
18:32.36JiiKooOk
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18:32.50JiiKooI don't have locate
18:32.57blaisefail
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18:33.04thiagothen search the entire disk
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18:33.17blaisels -laR / |grep kded_kcookiejar.so
18:33.32JiiKooOr maybe I do actually
18:33.38JiiKooman locate just didn't work
18:33.57blaisebut, you don't have it
18:34.05blaisescratches his head
18:34.46JiiKooHow do I search the entire disk? And what is that command, blaise
18:35.18thiagouse find to search the entire disk
18:35.26thiagofind / -name kded_kcookiejar.so
18:36.45thiagoon opensuse, it's supposed to be at /usr/lib64/kde4/kded_kcookiejar.so
18:36.47thiagois it there?
18:36.51JiiKooI found it and used ldd.
18:36.58JiiKooYes, it is there.
18:36.59thiagoanything "not found" ?
18:37.08JiiKooNope
18:37.15thiagois kded4 running?
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18:38.01JiiKooI don't know. It used to work before. I haven't changed anything on purpose.
18:38.11thiagoplease check if it's running
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18:38.42JiiKooThere is no kded4 in running processes list
18:38.50thiagook, that might be the problem then
18:38.58thiagorun it from a terminal
18:39.00thiagodoes it start?
18:39.41JiiKooThere are errors
18:39.50thiagopastebin them, please
18:40.08JiiKooIt's still running
18:40.19thiagothat's ok then
18:40.26thiagocheck if the cookie server is working now
18:40.43JiiKooIt is.
18:40.48JiiKooThank you!
18:40.50thiagook, so kded4 had crashed for some reason
18:41.10JiiKooOk.
18:41.25thiagoit's not supposed to happen, but sometimes it does
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19:36.25Bundestrojanergood evening
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19:56.29BundestrojanerI've read, there has been a checkbox "show advanced devices" in system settings/multimedia/hardware, which is obviously not longer there
19:56.42Bundestrojanerhow can i force phonon to show those advanced devices?
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20:59.53BundestrojanerI've read, there has been a checkbox "show advanced devices" in system settings/multimedia/hardware, which is obviously not longer there
20:59.53Bundestrojanerhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326058
20:59.53Bundestrojanerhow can i force phonon to show those advanced devices?
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