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| 01:22.22 | r_rios | Hi. Where do I report a bug in akonadi-baloo-indexer? Akonadi or Baloo? |
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| 01:41.26 | roney | r_rios, consider asking vishesh directly |
| 01:42.34 | roney | I'm sorry, thought this was #kde-devel |
| 01:42.56 | roney | you probably don't know who vishesh is |
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| 01:47.36 | roney | r_rios, the indexer's code seems to be on baloo |
| 01:47.50 | roney | so report it against baloo |
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| 02:13.03 | r_rios | roney: I do |
| 02:13.16 | r_rios | Do I ask there? |
| 02:14.24 | roney | If you're talking about asking on #kde-devel, I dit it for you already. ;-) |
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| 03:45.02 | pjschmitt | hi everyone, so I had trouble building kdelibs when qtopengl was installed (using gles with opengl removed) I was able to uninstall qtopengl and reinstall it |
| 03:45.10 | pjschmitt | but for plasma-workspace that's not the case |
| 03:45.24 | pjschmitt | anyone have a link for the compile options so I can possibly patch the gentoo ebuild? |
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| 03:45.37 | pjschmitt | or any reason it would fail not finding GL/gl.h |
| 03:45.56 | thiago | you said you removed OpenGL, right? |
| 03:46.02 | pjschmitt | thiago: yes |
| 03:46.06 | pjschmitt | I think it's totally removed |
| 03:46.08 | thiago | that's the reason then |
| 03:46.15 | pjschmitt | I made my use flags -opengl |
| 03:46.22 | pjschmitt | and gles gles2 egl |
| 03:46.25 | thiago | did you compile Qt yourself? |
| 03:46.37 | pjschmitt | and masked glu |
| 03:46.45 | thiago | glu is irrelevant |
| 03:46.46 | pjschmitt | with gentoo I did |
| 03:47.00 | thiago | what -opengl argument did you pass to configure? |
| 03:47.52 | pjschmitt | which qt package? |
| 03:48.42 | thiago | *the* qt package |
| 03:49.08 | thiago | are you trying to build kde frameworks 5? |
| 03:49.31 | pjschmitt | 4.12 |
| 03:50.02 | thiago | ok |
| 03:50.07 | thiago | so there's only one Qt package that matters |
| 03:50.16 | thiago | what -opengl flag did you pass to its configure? |
| 03:50.19 | pjschmitt | one sec, locating the name and ebuild |
| 03:50.29 | pjschmitt | since I did it as a use flag |
| 03:55.00 | pjschmitt | I believe -no-opengl |
| 03:55.04 | pjschmitt | thiago: ^ |
| 03:55.30 | thiago | ok |
| 03:55.44 | thiago | so your problem is that plasma still tries to use OpenGL, right? |
| 03:56.01 | pjschmitt | yeah |
| 03:56.06 | pjschmitt | though that was the qtcore package |
| 03:56.17 | thiago | qtcore doesn't do OpenGL |
| 03:56.25 | thiago | does the error happen when compiling plasma-workspace? |
| 03:56.47 | pjschmitt | yes |
| 03:56.50 | thiago | ok |
| 03:57.01 | pjschmitt | qtopengl has -opengl sent to config |
| 03:57.05 | pjschmitt | is that possibly a problem? |
| 03:57.08 | thiago | here's my recommendation: reinstall the OpenGL package and compile Qt with OpenGL support |
| 03:57.17 | thiago | you mean you passed -opengl config? |
| 03:57.27 | thiago | that doesn't work. The Qt configure script will complain that it's not a valid argument. |
| 03:57.29 | pjschmitt | to qtopengl |
| 03:57.39 | pjschmitt | well qtopengl compiled |
| 03:57.58 | pjschmitt | thiago: why do I have to build it with opengl support since it causes problems with gles |
| 03:58.02 | pjschmitt | this is for a chromebook |
| 03:58.08 | pjschmitt | (arm chromebook) |
| 03:58.08 | thiago | then choose -opengl es2 |
| 03:58.20 | pjschmitt | for qtopengl? |
| 03:58.24 | thiago | for Qt |
| 03:58.25 | pjschmitt | I can patch the ebuild |
| 03:58.27 | pjschmitt | ok |
| 03:58.45 | pjschmitt | ok, yeah, I think, if I'm not mistaken gentoo builds qtcore with nothing |
| 03:58.50 | pjschmitt | and then packages add to it |
| 03:58.53 | pjschmitt | I *think* |
| 03:58.59 | thiago | that would make sense |
| 03:59.02 | pjschmitt | yeah |
| 03:59.04 | thiago | since QtCore doesn't do anything graphical |
| 03:59.11 | pjschmitt | so would -opengl be an option that enables opengl |
| 03:59.13 | thiago | it doesn't have anything to do with OpenGL or OpenGL ES2 |
| 03:59.14 | pjschmitt | or removes it? |
| 03:59.24 | pjschmitt | yeah, the problem is qtopengl |
| 03:59.25 | thiago | the -opengl option (to Qt's configure) enables opengl |
| 03:59.30 | pjschmitt | ok |
| 03:59.34 | pjschmitt | so I want to remove that |
| 03:59.41 | thiago | the options are: -opengl desktop; -opengl es2 |
| 03:59.44 | thiago | and -no-opengl |
| 03:59.58 | thiago | but the latter is not an option. You need OpenGL for plasma. |
| 04:00.07 | pjschmitt | does -opengl es2 make it do gles2 |
| 04:00.11 | thiago | yes |
| 04:00.29 | pjschmitt | that makes sense then, that's also why kdelibs didn't build unless I had qtopengl uninstalled |
| 04:00.33 | pjschmitt | and then had to readd it |
| 04:00.52 | thiago | make sure you're building a version of the KDE code that supports OpenGL ES2 |
| 04:01.01 | pjschmitt | I am |
| 04:01.08 | thiago | kwin has supported it for some time. I don't know the rest of the workspace. |
| 04:01.10 | pjschmitt | the use flag is enabled |
| 04:01.16 | thiago | the use flag is useless |
| 04:01.18 | pjschmitt | yeah, kwin is built with it |
| 04:01.27 | thiago | I'm talking about the source code |
| 04:01.29 | pjschmitt | thiago: it works in most places, probably an overseight |
| 04:01.36 | thiago | does the source code support OpenGL ES 2? |
| 04:01.37 | pjschmitt | yeah, the use flags change build options in gentoo |
| 04:01.41 | pjschmitt | yeah |
| 04:01.43 | pjschmitt | for kwin |
| 04:02.00 | pjschmitt | what was recommended is to remove opengl support so that errors happen at compile time not runtime |
| 04:02.24 | thiago | right |
| 04:02.32 | thiago | then you found the first piece of code that requires OpenGL |
| 04:02.45 | thiago | your options are: go back and re-enable it, or not build the code in question |
| 04:03.16 | pjschmitt | thiago: yup, and so my kdelibs probably doesn't have gles2 support, because qtopengl was uninstalled before the package was built |
| 04:03.54 | thiago | so rebuild it |
| 04:06.31 | pjschmitt | so, since I'm patching the ebuild to play nice with gentoo need to figure a couple things out |
| 04:06.48 | pjschmitt | it sets the target directories to src/opengl |
| 04:06.57 | pjschmitt | should I patch that |
| 04:07.05 | thiago | the target directory of what? |
| 04:07.21 | pjschmitt | nvm, I think I know what that is |
| 04:07.23 | pjschmitt | don't worry |
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| 04:07.37 | pjschmitt | so is -egl a valid option? |
| 04:07.39 | pjschmitt | just wondering |
| 04:07.47 | thiago | yes, but it's a different matter altogether |
| 04:07.51 | thiago | you're still using GLX |
| 04:09.48 | pjschmitt | thiago: just trying to make it a generic ebuild, that's all |
| 04:10.08 | thiago | I don't know anything about ebuild |
| 04:10.09 | pjschmitt | trying to make sure the syntax is right since I'm not on the qt team |
| 04:10.16 | thiago | but the fact is that KDE 4 software still requires X |
| 04:10.21 | pjschmitt | thiago: that's fine, just sanity checking with the qt build process |
| 04:10.21 | thiago | and, as such, requires GLX for GL support |
| 04:10.34 | thiago | whether you're using OpenGL or OpenGL ES 2 is irrelevant, You're still using GLX. |
| 04:10.38 | thiago | EGL is not a matter |
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| 04:14.03 | pjschmitt | yeah, that's fine, just having it in as a use flag |
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| 04:17.22 | pjschmitt | thiago: so I want -opengl es2 in in the config? |
| 04:17.50 | thiago | yes |
| 04:18.07 | pjschmitt | "-opengl es2" |
| 04:18.21 | thiago | no |
| 04:18.23 | thiago | -opengl es2 |
| 04:18.37 | pjschmitt | I was doing quotes to make sure you want the space in there |
| 04:18.49 | thiago | yes, but not with the quotes |
| 04:29.09 | pjschmitt | let's see if this works |
| 04:29.37 | pjschmitt | if it does kde will work hardware accelerated on a chromebook :D |
| 04:29.55 | thiago | yes, if by "kde" you mean kwin |
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| 04:33.15 | pjschmitt | thiago: is there a page you can link me to the build options? |
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| 04:33.51 | thiago | yes |
| 04:33.54 | thiago | type: configure -help |
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| 04:38.59 | pjschmitt | thiago: anything on the web, otherwise I'm unpacking it somewhere, just wondering |
| 04:39.17 | pjschmitt | the space seems somewhat strange, trying to get it to work with the ebuild |
| 04:39.41 | thiago | pjschmitt: no. Just run configure. |
| 04:39.46 | thiago | if you're compiling from sources, you have it. |
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| 04:41.03 | pjschmitt | got it |
| 04:41.05 | pjschmitt | thanks |
| 04:41.42 | pjschmitt | so I guess -opengl tries to detect the best one availible |
| 04:41.52 | thiago | no |
| 04:41.57 | thiago | it enables the desktop version |
| 04:42.52 | pjschmitt | thiago: alright, I guess the help file is wrong then |
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| 04:51.13 | pjschmitt | seeing a whole bunch of stuff about gles :) |
| 04:51.40 | pjschmitt | though I think it detected gles before... |
| 04:51.43 | pjschmitt | we shall see if it all works |
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| 04:53.19 | pjschmitt | how integral is plasma-workspace to kde? |
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| 04:58.58 | pjschmitt | thiago: saw a patch online so if it doesn't work |
| 04:59.07 | pjschmitt | it'll hopefulyl remove the opengl direct dependency |
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| 05:03.32 | pjschmitt | nope, it faile |
| 05:03.32 | pjschmitt | d |
| 05:05.05 | pjschmitt | /usr/include/qt4/QtOpenGL/qgl.h:88:20: fatal error: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory |
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| 05:19.44 | thiago | pjschmitt: how did you configure Qt? |
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| 06:36.58 | Northsoft | Hi all |
| 06:38.47 | Northsoft | I have plasma-applet-nm crashing kded (when install) (trace: http://paste.org.ru/?wmpxfc) and plasma (when placing widget onto bar) (trace: http://paste.org.ru/?9oy8ha) |
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| 06:39.02 | Northsoft | Just upgraded from Mageia 3 to 4 |
| 06:40.18 | Northsoft | KDE: 4.11.4, Mageia 4, Linux localhost 3.12.13-desktop-2.mga4 #1 SMP Sat Feb 22 23:45:28 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 07:14.33 | pityuka44 | Hi, How can add a kwin effect which i downloaded from kde-look? I put in ~/.kde/share/apps/kwin and because there wasn't effects folder I created also but it's not visible where I can saet desktop effects settings |
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| 07:18.19 | kurumin | Hello. |
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| 07:18.52 | kurumin | After installing KDE and rebooting: >"Could not update ICEauthority file /home/test/.ICEauthority" Already tried google's few results: |
| 07:19.09 | kurumin | http://pastebin.com/rj6uGa47 |
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| 07:19.28 | kurumin | But still get that notification on the boot, that don`t let me get access to my data. |
| 07:19.45 | kurumin | It all happeneed after KDE install, and destroyed my distro. |
| 07:19.51 | kurumin | I`m hours on this and can`t make it work. |
| 07:20.05 | kurumin | Could you please help me |
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| 07:21.38 | Mo | Hi. How do I change toolbar icon size globally? |
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| 07:31.17 | kurumin | SOMEONE PLS HALP |
| 07:31.22 | kurumin | After installing KDE and rebooting: >"Could not update ICEauthority file /home/test/.ICEauthority" Already tried google's few results: |
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| 08:21.06 | Kelsar | Hi, got a problem with phonon-vlc backend (also gstreamer). Since using xv crashes fglrx... i tried to change the video output module in vlc. i put a vlcrc into .config/Phonon/vlc.conf and it is read, shown by debug messages |
| 08:21.22 | Kelsar | but this setting is either ignored or later overruled. |
| 08:21.59 | Kelsar | I also patched vlc so xcb_glx would win in auto selection, did not help. so i think it overruled somewhere. Any Hint? |
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| 09:37.32 | Andy2 | Hey guys, how is the option "Use system proxy configuration" supposed to work? I installed konqueror to get the proxy kcm modul, set the environment variable http_proxy but it does not show up in the dialog. |
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| 09:43.04 | rindolf | Andy2: hi. |
| 09:43.12 | Andy2 | hi rindolf |
| 09:43.29 | rindolf | Andy2: does the proxy work? |
| 09:43.36 | Andy2 | nop |
| 09:43.47 | Andy2 | But it works when i set it manually |
| 09:43.55 | Andy2 | In the KDE proxy settings |
| 09:44.21 | Andy2 | But i would like to use the system wide proxy settings |
| 09:45.06 | Andy2 | I'm digging through the konqueror git repository at the moment in hopes i find something :) |
| 09:48.30 | Andy2 | rindolf: The "auto detect" function does nto work either |
| 09:48.36 | rindolf | Andy2: ah. |
| 09:48.53 | Andy2 | so it looks to me the proxy conf does not "see" the correct env vars |
| 09:49.48 | rindolf | Andy2: maybe try this search - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=konqueror%20use%20http_proxy%20variable |
| 09:50.37 | Andy2 | rindolf: Thanks i will have a look |
| 09:50.57 | Andy2 | But it's the right way to install konqueror to get the proxy kcm, right? |
| 09:51.13 | Andy2 | I was thinking, maybe i got an old kcm modul that does not work anymore |
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| 09:54.02 | Andy2 | rindolf: i found the problem |
| 09:54.08 | Andy2 | my stupidity |
| 09:54.13 | Andy2 | :/ |
| 09:54.36 | Andy2 | i set the env vars in a shell but that env is not global as it seems |
| 09:54.54 | Andy2 | so the kcm proxy modul does not see the correct values |
| 09:55.15 | rindolf | Andy2: ah. |
| 09:55.27 | rindolf | Andy2: do you mean it was not exported? |
| 09:55.39 | rindolf | Andy2: an internal shell variable rather than an environment one? |
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| 09:56.10 | Andy2 | no it was an env var but i had to start the kcm proxy module form the same shell to make it see the correct values |
| 09:56.49 | Andy2 | like export http_proxy test.com $$ kcmshell4 proxy |
| 09:56.53 | Andy2 | && |
| 09:57.04 | rindolf | Ah. |
| 09:57.19 | Andy2 | no i have to figure out how to make them "global" :) |
| 09:57.24 | Andy2 | thanks fpr your help btw |
| 10:00.14 | lordievader | Good morning. |
| 10:00.30 | Andy2 | good morning lordievader |
| 10:02.05 | lordievader | Hey Andy2, how are you doing? |
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| 10:02.24 | Andy2 | Good, thank you |
| 10:02.51 | Andy2 | How are you doing? |
| 10:02.56 | Andy2 | First coffee? :) |
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| 10:05.31 | Andy2 | I am trying to figure out how to make KDE aware of changes env variables |
| 10:05.55 | Andy2 | *changed |
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| 10:09.09 | lordievader | Andy2: Had a couple of cups already :) Doing good btw. Cleaning up an old server. Soo many old kernels. |
| 10:09.23 | Andy2 | hehe |
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| 10:36.23 | Andy2 | Guys, is it possible to change an environment vaiable so that all KDE application can read it? |
| 10:36.26 | Andy2 | After KDE was started |
| 10:37.20 | einar77_work | Andy2: if you put stuff in .kde[4]/env/yourscript.sh you can set as many env variables as you want |
| 10:37.40 | Andy2 | einar77_work: yes i know but what if i want to change it later? |
| 10:37.41 | einar77_work | in .kde[4]/Autostart for later startup (after the workspace has loaded) |
| 10:37.53 | einar77_work | I'm not sure you can |
| 10:38.21 | Andy2 | so i have to restart kde every time i set my proxy variables. |
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| 10:41.06 | lordievader | Andy2: Pehaps you can re-source the env definition files? |
| 10:41.45 | AciD`` | how can you once and for all disable virtuoso-t ressource hog ? |
| 10:41.47 | Andy2 | but that is only for the current shell |
| 10:41.55 | Andy2 | @lordievader |
| 10:42.05 | Andy2 | Never for the whole desktop environment |
| 10:42.14 | AciD`` | (nepomuk is already disabled, but the parser still decide to run some times) |
| 10:42.23 | AciD`` | (I mean, almost *all* the time) |
| 10:42.54 | lordievader | Andy2: Hmm, right... |
| 10:43.34 | Andy2 | lordievader: Looks like it's not possible besides "hacking" into the root process with gdm and change it there :) |
| 10:44.03 | Andy2 | lordievader: anyway it sucks that you cannot change a system wide proxy on the fly, especially because you can do it on ubuntuand windows :( |
| 10:44.39 | einar77_work | AciD``: update to 4.13 ;) |
| 10:44.40 | lordievader | Andy2: Sadly I do not have any experience with sytem wide proxies. |
| 10:45.11 | Andy2 | lordievader: Me neither, but i have to use it regulary in the future so i'm digging into it |
| 10:47.53 | lordievader | Andy2: Maybe this can help you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-do-i-achieve-system-wide-proxy-settings-887977/ |
| 10:47.59 | AciD`` | einar77_work > if I do update with 4.13, then I'll encounter the huge kmail bug where it duplicates each mail many, many times... so not an option now.. |
| 10:48.09 | AciD`` | :( |
| 10:48.59 | einar77_work | AciD``: are you sure? I've never seen it |
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| 10:51.49 | AciD`` | einar77_work > lucky you :) I was affected by this bug in previous version, and it has reopen in 4.13. So I'm guessing I'm more exposed to be affected again :/ |
| 10:53.25 | Andy2 | lordievader: Thanks for the link but that does not really help. It still would be necessary to restart KDE after changing the proxy. The soluton mentioned there sets a proxy when the DE starts, i may have to go that route because everything else does not seem to work. |
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| 10:57.07 | lordievader | Andy2: Hmm, too bad :( |
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| 10:58.33 | Andy2 | indeed |
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| 11:26.33 | AlexRussia | where i possible get help about nm-plasoid? |
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| 11:26.49 | AlexRussia | kde-plasma-nm-bla-ba |
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| 11:28.07 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
| 11:31.21 | moviuro | AlexRussia: don't ask to ask, just ask ;) |
| 11:31.43 | AlexRussia | moviuro: i get PPP error, when try connect to pppoe ;) |
| 11:31.48 | moviuro | AlexRussia: kdeplasma-applets-plasma-nm |
| 11:31.53 | AlexRussia | moviuro: uhu |
| 11:32.13 | AlexRussia | moviuro: with ne interface, i get him in last update my system |
| 11:32.17 | AlexRussia | new* |
| 11:32.36 | moviuro | AlexRussia: don't direct your questions to one person on the channel; some people might not read what you write if they are sure it is not directed to them |
| 11:32.47 | moviuro | and I don't have any idea how NM works |
| 11:32.56 | AlexRussia | :( |
| 11:32.58 | AlexRussia | i'm also |
| 11:33.09 | AlexRussia | but is one way to connect to internet |
| 11:33.11 | AlexRussia | no more |
| 11:33.20 | Andy2 | So, what is your question? :) |
| 11:33.25 | moviuro | AlexRussia: which distro/KDE version do you use? |
| 11:33.32 | AlexRussia | moviuro: Manjaro Linux |
| 11:33.35 | AlexRussia | moviuro: #manjaro |
| 11:34.07 | AlexRussia | Andy2: I'm impossible connect to pppoe with last udate, get error. |
| 11:34.38 | Andy2 | AlexRussia: Hm, i see, sry i have no experience with that |
| 11:34.58 | Andy2 | I use it with wlan usually (on archlinux) and it just works |
| 11:35.19 | AlexRussia | hm |
| 11:35.27 | AlexRussia | wlan already pre-installed |
| 11:35.37 | AlexRussia | maybe, i try him setup.... |
| 11:35.42 | Andy2 | Did you check the log files? |
| 11:35.51 | AlexRussia | Andy2: where he? |
| 11:35.52 | AlexRussia | him* |
| 11:36.06 | AlexRussia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.10 | Andy2 | start journalctl -f |
| 11:36.17 | Andy2 | you may ad sudo |
| 11:36.20 | Andy2 | and try to connect |
| 11:36.25 | AlexRussia | O, i with live cd. |
| 11:36.34 | AlexRussia | Hm, maybe, i possible make chroot? |
| 11:36.42 | Andy2 | no its fine |
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| 11:36.46 | lordievader | AlexRussia: How are you connected now? Different pc? |
| 11:36.53 | AlexRussia | lordievader: livve usb |
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| 11:37.22 | lordievader | AlexRussia: But over the smae pppoe connection? |
| 11:37.22 | AlexRussia | s/cd/usb/ |
| 11:37.31 | AlexRussia | lordievader: here pppoe work fine |
| 11:37.48 | Andy2 | the same distro? |
| 11:37.48 | AlexRussia | lordievader: and in hard-disk system were worker |
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| 11:37.59 | AlexRussia | Andy2: no, Also Manjaro |
| 11:38.07 | Andy2 | ok |
| 11:38.17 | AlexRussia | Andy2: you know, manjaro is arch-based. |
| 11:38.19 | Andy2 | sounds like a problem with networkmanager |
| 11:38.20 | AlexRussia | maybe^ |
| 11:38.25 | Andy2 | AlexRussia: Yes i know |
| 11:38.43 | Andy2 | You should probably ask in the manjaro irc channel |
| 11:38.51 | Andy2 | or forum |
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| 11:40.59 | AlexRussia | Andy2: he lazy... |
| 11:41.08 | Andy2 | :D |
| 11:41.22 | Andy2 | No but i think it's a problem with netwokrmanager itself, not the plasma widget |
| 11:41.47 | AlexRussia | Andy2: :P but #nm also don't help.Never don't have help me :( |
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| 11:43.32 | Andy2 | Sry |
| 11:44.14 | AlexRussia | Andy2: i make trash, but seen: |
| 11:44.17 | AlexRussia | Packages (31): cups-filters-1.0.46-1 efibootmgr-0.6.1.29.gf4e29e4-1 efivar-0.7-2 ffmpeg-1:2.1.4-1 gnutls-3.2.12.1-0.1 grep-2.18-1 |
| 11:44.18 | AlexRussia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.20 | AlexRussia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.21 | AlexRussia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.23 | AlexRussia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.30 | AlexRussia | it last updates in repo, seen update nm and ppp? |
| 11:44.32 | Andy2 | don't do that please |
| 11:44.51 | Andy2 | post long texts on pastebin or something like that |
| 11:44.55 | AlexRussia | then problem or in nm package or in ppp.... |
| 11:45.09 | AlexRussia | Andy2: somthing it....HERE :P |
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| 11:45.53 | AlexRussia | Andy2: wlan is for wifi? |
| 11:46.09 | Andy2 | i cannot help you further, sry it is a manjaro problem, you really should ask there |
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| 11:47.16 | bewees | Will there be full touchscreen support in the near future for kde? |
| 11:48.09 | AlexRussia | Andy2: i possible down package version or no? |
| 11:48.18 | AlexRussia | Andy2: make switchback.... |
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| 11:48.50 | Andy2 | AlexRussia: it is possible but only if you have the old packages |
| 11:49.21 | AlexRussia | Andy2: yah, i want ol package for try fix problem |
| 11:49.38 | Andy2 | AlexRussia: Have a look at /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ |
| 11:49.45 | Andy2 | there ar eold cached packages |
| 11:50.13 | Andy2 | you can install an old package with pacman -U packagename.tar.xz |
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| 11:51.00 | AlexRussia | Andy2: not found old, try build manually ;) |
| 11:51.09 | Andy2 | ok :) |
| 11:51.48 | AlexRussia | Andy2: just change version and 'makepkg -s' ;P |
| 11:52.05 | Andy2 | yep, that should work |
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| 11:52.37 | AlexRussia | Andy2: i'm maintainer some aur packages, i know, how to it work ;) |
| 11:52.46 | Andy2 | hehe me too |
| 11:53.00 | Andy2 | that is why i like arch ;) |
| 11:53.11 | Andy2 | btw youcan look here as well: http://seblu.net/a/arm/packages/ |
| 11:53.21 | Andy2 | its a arch mirror that keeps old packages |
| 11:53.25 | AlexRussia | Oo ARM? |
| 11:53.36 | Andy2 | no.. |
| 11:53.39 | Andy2 | it thename :) |
| 11:53.40 | Andy2 | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Rollback_Machine |
| 11:53.45 | AlexRussia | ah |
| 11:53.48 | Andy2 | Arch Rollback MAchine |
| 11:54.51 | AlexRussia | Andy2: and manjaro also say 'stable', heheheheh |
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| 11:55.27 | Andy2 | i never used manjaro, i just played a bit with it .. i don't know how big the differences between manjaro and arch ar now |
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| 11:56.34 | AlexRussia | Andy2: hm, i afraid some diffrent in time in last two package here http://seblu.net/a/arm/packages/n/networkmanager/ |
| 11:56.37 | AlexRussia | very fast |
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| 11:56.46 | AlexRussia | Andy2: maybe, he fix some bug.... |
| 11:57.04 | Andy2 | maybe i don't know |
| 11:58.34 | AlexRussia | Andy2: some idiot change firefox to rekonq in kde version, now it laggggggggggggged |
| 12:00.05 | Andy2 | :) |
| 12:00.12 | Andy2 | you can always reinstall firefox :) |
| 12:00.32 | AlexRussia | Andy2: on live usb?LOL |
| 12:00.41 | Andy2 | yes even there :) |
| 12:00.41 | AlexRussia | Andy2: i joke, i can |
| 12:00.45 | Andy2 | ^^ |
| 12:00.53 | AlexRussia | Andy2: i maintainer firefox-aurora in aur ;) |
| 12:01.06 | AlexRussia | Andy2: some binary packages saved on my hard ;) |
| 12:01.13 | Andy2 | ah cool |
| 12:01.18 | Andy2 | i switched to holly :) |
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| 12:01.34 | AlexRussia | holly....war - is my association :P |
| 12:01.43 | Andy2 | hehe |
| 12:02.12 | AlexRussia | Andy2: holly is what? Oo |
| 12:02.27 | Andy2 | a different firefox build without the new interface |
| 12:02.40 | AlexRussia | aaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 12:02.56 | AlexRussia | is where 'no more own bars'? |
| 12:03.12 | Andy2 | yes holly still has all the bars you want ;) |
| 12:03.28 | AlexRussia | Andy2: yah, is aurora-s ;) |
| 12:03.44 | Andy2 | yes but holly is based on nightly |
| 12:03.45 | AlexRussia | Andy2: is killed me, when i update to it |
| 12:04.03 | Andy2 | me too ^^ |
| 12:04.12 | AlexRussia | Andy2: Oo, also, if you arch master, try build firefox-hg, is NICE package |
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| 12:04.25 | Andy2 | i did at one point |
| 12:04.36 | Andy2 | but firefox-holly works best for me |
| 12:04.42 | AlexRussia | just it package impossible build |
| 12:04.46 | AlexRussia | i every time get error |
| 12:05.05 | Andy2 | i was able to build it but it compiles forever :) |
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| 12:05.18 | AlexRussia | like: some header ot included here, or some object not defined..... |
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| 12:10.56 | daimonion | Folks, anyone knows if it is possible to build Qt5 with gstreamer1.0? |
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| 12:14.25 | Jucato | daimonion: the folks over at #qt might know better |
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| 13:35.47 | qqqqqqqqq9 | Hi, message filtering kmail2 is buggy for me, it filters out to many messages. (4.13.80) Is this connected to the switch to Baloo? Do i have to delete something? |
| 13:36.27 | qqqqqqqqq9 | 4.12.80 i mean |
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| 13:43.06 | einar77_work | qqqqqqqqq9: filtering wasn't touched by that switch, IIRC |
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| 13:50.00 | qqqqqqqqq9 | so it's a bug |
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| 14:32.01 | windrunner | how do you pronounce KDE |
| 14:32.45 | AlexRussia | windrunner: KDE |
| 14:33.03 | AlexRussia | windrunner: 'K' 'D' 'E' |
| 14:33.19 | AlexRussia | windrunner: me pronounce like 'ka-de-e' |
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| 15:39.12 | Northsoft | Hi everybody |
| 15:39.29 | Northsoft | Look here please: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12977 |
| 15:40.05 | Northsoft | " Plasma-applet-nm crashes kded on install, plasma-desktop on post, and D-Bus providing bad ptr" |
| 15:41.40 | rdieter | Northsoft: looks like some libnm-qt issue, based on that backtraces. your distro folks should be able to sort it out |
| 15:42.02 | Northsoft | rdieter: how can i check it? |
| 15:42.29 | rdieter | check what? |
| 15:42.42 | Northsoft | That it's a libnm-qt issue |
| 15:42.50 | rdieter | look at the backtraces you submitted |
| 15:43.09 | rdieter | near the top of each is: NetworkManager::NetworkManagerPrivate::init (this=this@entry=0x240d750) at /usr/src/debug/libnm-qt-0.9.8.0/manager.cpp:99 |
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| 15:43.51 | Northsoft | Maybe i'll do smth in gdb? |
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| 16:00.54 | hacosta | hi! is there a way to configure kde so that ctrl w = delete previous word instead of close tabs? |
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| 16:02.06 | rdieter | hacosta: which app? konversation? |
| 16:02.11 | moviuro | hacosta: use CTRL Backspace instead? |
| 16:02.27 | rdieter | hacosta: settings->configure shortcuts |
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| 16:03.20 | rdieter | (to change the close tab shortcut at least) |
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| 16:07.25 | hacosta | rdieter: i meant globally |
| 16:07.40 | hacosta | moviuro: that's precisely what im trying to change :) |
| 16:07.57 | moviuro | oh, well i don't know :-/ |
| 16:08.46 | rdieter | hacosta: I dont think it's a global shortcut |
| 16:09.54 | rdieter | oh there it is, systemsettings->shortcuts&gestures->standard ... ->close has CNTL-W by default |
| 16:10.25 | hacosta | oooh.. nice! |
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| 16:57.32 | Alumin | In KMail 4.8.5 (running inside Kontact 4.8.5, both as packaged by Kubuntu 12.04.4 LTS) the Inbox of one of my disconnected IMAP accounts is read-only (the "move to trash" and "move message" options are grayed out). The other accounts, and other folders in this account, do not have this problem. |
| 16:57.44 | Alumin | How could I go about troubleshooting this issue? |
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| 17:26.48 | scummos | Alumin: I'd start with updating to something that is not 2 years+ old |
| 17:26.52 | scummos | maybe it's fixed by now |
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| 17:29.56 | Rug | I am trying to get my bluetooth headset to work with KDE. I can pair the device, and see it in Kmix, but I cannot get audio to play through it. Any suggestions? |
| 17:34.46 | rdieter | Rug: what happens when you move an audio stream to the headset in kmix? nothing? |
| 17:35.16 | Rug | rdieter: one sec. |
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| 17:36.07 | Rug | rdieter: How do you do that? |
| 17:36.33 | rdieter | I suspect we now see the problem. :) sure, |
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| 17:37.12 | rdieter | click kmix, see app/audio stream , right click -> move |
| 17:37.21 | rdieter | assumes you're using pulseaudio and app is currently playing audio |
| 17:38.14 | rdieter | other tools like pavucontrol can do similar |
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| 17:38.57 | rdieter | Rug: does that help? |
| 17:39.09 | Rug | Is Kmix different then KMixer? |
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| 17:39.42 | rdieter | it's usually labelled as "kmix" or "KDE Mixer" |
| 17:40.03 | rdieter | you said you saw it in kmix already ?? |
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| 17:40.25 | rdieter | when I said "click kmix", I meant click the kmix icon in the systray |
| 17:40.46 | rdieter | (sorry for not being clear) |
| 17:40.52 | Rug | rdieter: I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same application |
| 17:41.50 | Rug | I have a list of tabs in kim(er) Playback devices, capture devices, playback streams, and capture streams |
| 17:42.04 | rdieter | thats the wrong place |
| 17:42.04 | Rug | kmix* |
| 17:42.07 | rdieter | close that window |
| 17:42.15 | rdieter | just left click on mixer in systray |
| 17:42.15 | Rug | done |
| 17:42.39 | rdieter | should just popup list of current volumes, one of which should be the application currently playing audio |
| 17:43.02 | Rug | 3 sliders. my bluetooth headset (vol at 100%) built-in audio (vol at 0%) and event sounds |
| 17:43.13 | rdieter | I have amarok playing right now, so see that listed there, next to "Builtin audio..." and "Event Sounds" |
| 17:43.16 | HamRadio | Doe KDE work best with pulseaudio, or ALSA? |
| 17:43.36 | rdieter | Rug: do you have an application currently playing audio? |
| 17:43.40 | rdieter | it should be listed there |
| 17:43.40 | Rug | I have VLC playing right now, but it is not listed |
| 17:43.44 | Rug | rdieter: yes |
| 17:43.52 | rdieter | wierd |
| 17:44.26 | rdieter | HamRadio: you'll get differing opinions, but mine (and #kde-multimedia) recommendation is using pulseaudio is best |
| 17:44.59 | HamRadio | Thanks rdieter |
| 17:45.18 | HamRadio | I am using Manjaro with KDE, and almost everybody says to use ALSA on the Manjaro forums |
| 17:45.40 | HamRadio | Why pulseaudio? |
| 17:46.27 | Rug | Hey HamRadio: I'm VA3FXP How ya doing? |
| 17:46.34 | rdieter | Rug: This is what I see http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/kmix-streams.png |
| 17:47.00 | Rug | rdieter: I don't see the apps. |
| 17:47.09 | rdieter | Rug: possible you're not using pulseaudio |
| 17:47.14 | HamRadio | Hi Rug |
| 17:47.15 | rdieter | HamRadio: ^^ one reason |
| 17:47.24 | rdieter | and its easier, imho |
| 17:47.27 | HamRadio | KE7TUB :) Nice to meet you |
| 17:47.30 | Rug | I'm about to nuke and retry. |
| 17:47.46 | HamRadio | Hm, so I unistalled pulseaudio |
| 17:47.51 | HamRadio | maybe I should put it back |
| 17:47.53 | HamRadio | idk |
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| 17:48.43 | HamRadio | even after I configured my computer to only use ALSA |
| 17:48.56 | rdieter | Rug: Its possible your vlc either isn't built with pulseaudio support or you dont have alsa-plugin-pulseaudio installed too (so alsa-only streams get routed through pulseaudio too) |
| 17:49.14 | Rug | rdieter: it's possible. I'll check it out |
| 17:49.38 | rdieter | without pulseaudio, I'm not aware of any easy way to move streams |
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| 17:49.54 | rdieter | (its quite possible, but I'd argue it's not nearly as easy) |
| 17:50.40 | Rug | installing |
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| 17:51.28 | Rug | rebooting |
| 17:52.24 | Rug | HamRadio: Your license expires? I thought the licenses in the US were lifetime? |
| 17:52.44 | HamRadio | Yes, it's a 10 year license |
| 17:52.58 | HamRadio | they aren't lifetime |
| 17:53.24 | Rug | bummert |
| 17:53.29 | HamRadio | yeah |
| 17:53.30 | Rug | bummer* |
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| 17:54.16 | HamRadio | Why do you guys prefer pulseaudio over ALSA? |
| 17:54.37 | Rug | rdieter: even after reboot, the different apps don't show up. |
| 17:54.57 | Rug | rdieter: so I will nuke this box and try something different |
| 17:56.04 | HamRadio | Hey Rug, what are you trying to do? |
| 17:56.25 | rdieter | HamRadio: google it, you'll have a lot of hits |
| 17:56.26 | Rug | HamRadio: I'm fighting with Pulse too. |
| 17:56.46 | Leoneof | in bluetooth i do select "Always visible" but it go back to "Hidden", how to fix it? |
| 17:56.54 | rdieter | Rug: try testing with something simple like dragon ? |
| 17:57.11 | Rug | HamRadio: I'm running Arch. I am trying to get audio to play over bluetooth. |
| 17:57.12 | HamRadio | Are you trying to get your applications to show in your sound applet? |
| 17:57.15 | rdieter | (that assumes your phonon setup works too) |
| 17:57.17 | Rug | rdieter: yes |
| 17:57.20 | HamRadio | Ah, ok |
| 17:57.28 | HamRadio | I am running Manjaro |
| 17:57.41 | rdieter | so whatever phonon backend you use, make sure the pulseaudio plugin is used |
| 17:58.13 | rdieter | (or use a distro where all this is setup for you and 'just works') |
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| 17:58.29 | HamRadio | I am using GStreamer |
| 17:58.44 | HamRadio | idk, I don't use bluetooth |
| 17:58.58 | Basstard` | You use IR? |
| 17:59.09 | HamRadio | Isn't bluetooth on Arch broken with everything except the MATE and Gnome desktops? |
| 17:59.24 | Rug | =) I hope not. |
| 17:59.34 | rdieter | HamRadio: depends on what version of bluez and pulseaudio you have |
| 17:59.44 | Rug | The wiki's are out of date |
| 17:59.49 | HamRadio | That's what I was thinking rdieter |
| 17:59.58 | rdieter | if bluez5, you need something newer than pulseaudio-4.0 |
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| 18:00.22 | rdieter | (initial bluez5 support landed shortly after 4.0 release) |
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| 18:00.52 | rdieter | oh , you might still be waiting though |
| 18:00.53 | Rug | is thinking about just moving back to Debian. I know that OS |
| 18:00.54 | rdieter | digs up bug |
| 18:01.29 | HamRadio | Does KDE support bluez5? |
| 18:01.43 | HamRadio | or does it not matter as long as pulseaudio does |
| 18:02.16 | Rug | bbiab |
| 18:02.21 | rdieter | HamRadio: bluedevil-2.0 supports bluez5 |
| 18:02.51 | rdieter | but pulseaudio support for bluez5 isn't as complete as it was for bluez4 |
| 18:03.15 | rdieter | (bluez5 dropped some api's, requiring pulseaudio to implement something different) |
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| 18:04.09 | rdieter | see also https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73325 |
| 18:04.57 | HamRadio | Hm, ok |
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| 18:05.07 | HamRadio | Good think I don't need bluetooth, lol |
| 18:05.11 | HamRadio | sounds like it's a mess |
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| 18:05.40 | rdieter | a little, bluez4 -> bluez5 transition was far from seemless |
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| 18:07.14 | HamRadio | Seems like they should have made it easier |
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| 18:11.50 | treat | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/03/kde5-and-wayland/ |
| 18:12.38 | HamRadio | already read it |
| 18:12.40 | HamRadio | thanks |
| 18:13.11 | treat | yw |
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| 18:19.31 | diegoviola | hi |
| 18:19.34 | diegoviola | what is Baloo that kde is switching to? |
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| 18:20.17 | diegoviola | nvm found it |
| 18:20.27 | HamRadio | It's nepomuk replacment |
| 18:20.29 | HamRadio | k |
| 18:20.48 | smokex | its a nepomuk rewrite |
| 18:21.12 | evilytwisted | hey guys, Im having problems with my kde system, Im running linux mint 16 kde. whenever i install something new... lets ssay hexchat it doesnt appear in my desktop at all. Nor in my menu |
| 18:21.27 | smokex | !ping |
| 18:21.44 | smokex | darn upload... |
| 18:21.51 | evilytwisted | Nor steam.. |
| 18:21.53 | evilytwisted | Nor any game |
| 18:22.07 | HamRadio | what menu? |
| 18:22.14 | evilytwisted | kde classic menu |
| 18:22.21 | HamRadio | you tried restart? |
| 18:22.28 | evilytwisted | -_- No |
| 18:22.32 | evilytwisted | i thought it would just work |
| 18:22.40 | HamRadio | It should |
| 18:22.52 | HamRadio | I am running Manjaro + KDE, and programs show up |
| 18:23.00 | HamRadio | maybe change to the Homerun Kicker menu? |
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| 18:23.10 | evilytwisted | homerun? |
| 18:23.26 | HamRadio | Homerun kicker |
| 18:23.49 | evilytwisted | I only see "switch to application launcher style" |
| 18:24.29 | smokex | I use homrun kicker |
| 18:24.34 | smokex | it orcks |
| 18:24.40 | evilytwisted | this is a fresh installation |
| 18:24.40 | smokex | rocks |
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| 18:24.48 | evilytwisted | So... i dont have anything adjusted or modified |
| 18:24.54 | HamRadio | Switch to Manjaro KDE |
| 18:24.59 | evilytwisted | no ty |
| 18:25.05 | evilytwisted | i like my linux mint |
| 18:25.09 | HamRadio | ok, well |
| 18:25.13 | HamRadio | you will have to find the ppa |
| 18:25.23 | smokex | download the homerun package then :P |
| 18:25.57 | evilytwisted | Ill restart, if the programs arent there... could i get more help if i come back in here? |
| 18:26.08 | HamRadio | sure |
| 18:26.11 | evilytwisted | alrighty ty |
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| 18:28.32 | evilytwisted | ok, the icons are there thank you HamRadio But kmix keeps starting everytime i boot.. |
| 18:28.42 | evilytwisted | quite annoying.. Like it shows a window in the desktop |
| 18:28.59 | HamRadio | kmix is supposed to start everytime you boot |
| 18:29.04 | HamRadio | that's how you have sound |
| 18:29.14 | evilytwisted | is it suposed to show a window everytime it boots? |
| 18:29.17 | evilytwisted | on the desktop |
| 18:29.20 | HamRadio | Hm, no |
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| 18:29.48 | HamRadio | do you close it |
| 18:29.57 | evilytwisted | yeah of course |
| 18:29.58 | HamRadio | and is it closed when you shut down your computer? |
| 18:30.01 | evilytwisted | i close it everytime |
| 18:30.08 | evilytwisted | yeah it was shutdown when i restarted pc |
| 18:30.28 | evilytwisted | whats funny, hexchat wasnt closed when i restarted.. and it didnt load it |
| 18:30.35 | evilytwisted | nor was chrome closed .. and it didnt load that |
| 18:30.41 | evilytwisted | steam wasnt closed.. .etc |
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| 18:30.54 | HamRadio | That's odd |
| 18:31.05 | HamRadio | I ran Linux Mint KDE for awhile |
| 18:31.11 | HamRadio | that didn't happen to me |
| 18:31.18 | HamRadio | do you have backports enabled? |
| 18:31.20 | smokex | sounds like his desktop/app settings aren't getting saved |
| 18:31.24 | evilytwisted | backports? |
| 18:31.39 | HamRadio | open dolphin |
| 18:31.43 | HamRadio | and go to help |
| 18:31.45 | HamRadio | about KDE |
| 18:31.48 | HamRadio | what version you using |
| 18:31.59 | evilytwisted | 4.1.1.5 |
| 18:32.04 | evilytwisted | sorry |
| 18:32.08 | evilytwisted | 4.11.5 |
| 18:32.22 | HamRadio | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.12 |
| 18:32.33 | HamRadio | Get the latest KDE |
| 18:32.41 | HamRadio | and see if you still have the same problem |
| 18:32.55 | evilytwisted | its still a dev release |
| 18:33.01 | smokex | arch linux rocks btw |
| 18:33.04 | evilytwisted | Not touching any dev releases with my graphic card.. |
| 18:33.24 | HamRadio | KDE 4.12 is not a dev release |
| 18:33.24 | smokex | and 4.12 is stable on arch |
| 18:33.26 | HamRadio | it's stable |
| 18:33.36 | HamRadio | it's not beta |
| 18:33.39 | HamRadio | it's stable |
| 18:33.44 | evilytwisted | oo. |
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| 18:34.09 | evilytwisted | ill wait till linuxmint gets it then, i want to have support |
| 18:34.48 | HamRadio | You on Mint 16? |
| 18:34.55 | evilytwisted | yes |
| 18:35.10 | HamRadio | The only way for you to get the latest KDE on Mint without that PPA is to do a clean install |
| 18:35.24 | HamRadio | and re-install your OS when KDE 17 comes out |
| 18:35.27 | evilytwisted | THis was a clean install.. |
| 18:35.37 | evilytwisted | and ill wait for kde17 |
| 18:35.53 | HamRadio | Those backports are stable |
| 18:36.05 | HamRadio | kubuntu and Mint KDE are virtually identical |
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| 18:36.57 | evilytwisted | yeah pretty much |
| 18:37.02 | evilytwisted | lm is based from ubuntu |
| 18:37.07 | evilytwisted | ubuntu from debian |
| 18:37.13 | HamRadio | I know |
| 18:37.20 | HamRadio | How long have you been using Linux |
| 18:37.26 | evilytwisted | since fedora core 4 |
| 18:37.35 | HamRadio | Ok |
| 18:37.37 | scummos | :D |
| 18:37.37 | evilytwisted | actually No.. |
| 18:37.40 | evilytwisted | a bit before tht |
| 18:37.44 | scummos | what kernel was that |
| 18:37.49 | evilytwisted | when opensuse was still suse |
| 18:37.55 | evilytwisted | Im not for sure, it was old |
| 18:38.42 | HamRadio | Well, idk.....when I was running mint I enabled those backports and had no problems |
| 18:38.49 | HamRadio | they say you can do it on the mint forums |
| 18:39.52 | evilytwisted | HamRadio, i appreciate for the advice, But im still sticking to being patient, i am a destroyer of computers. Literally, I gave pclinuxos os a kernel panic once.. |
| 18:40.01 | evilytwisted | i crash lm 15 multiple of times.. |
| 18:40.17 | scummos | kernel panic is easy, just cut the SATA cord |
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| 18:40.27 | evilytwisted | i added grub to lilo ..-_- |
| 18:40.35 | evilytwisted | Sorry |
| 18:40.38 | evilytwisted | lilo to grub |
| 18:40.50 | scummos | that sounds awesome |
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| 18:40.52 | scummos | did it work? :D |
| 18:41.05 | evilytwisted | if i wanted to crash my pc.. Sure |
| 18:41.32 | HamRadio | ok evilytwisted |
| 18:41.35 | Rug | My first Linux OS was RedHat v5.2 |
| 18:41.45 | HamRadio | I have crashed my computer once or twice too, lol |
| 18:41.58 | evilytwisted | mine was suse, I then switched to mandrake.. mandriva.. redhad.. fedoracore 4 knoppix... |
| 18:41.59 | Rug | I ran it on a 386DX40 |
| 18:42.14 | Rug | evilytwisted: yupp tried all those too. |
| 18:42.30 | evilytwisted | used to.. I hated ubuntu |
| 18:42.33 | evilytwisted | for its gnome.. |
| 18:42.49 | evilytwisted | everything about ubuntu Was EW... till i tried linuxmint.... im like Oo... eyecandy.. |
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| 18:43.25 | Rug | I don't like eyecandy, it usually slows the ystem down. Most of the time I am in a terminal |
| 18:43.48 | evilytwisted | quad core processor 8 gig of ram 1 tb hd amd radeon hd 7850 graphic card |
| 18:43.52 | evilytwisted | its an apu |
| 18:44.01 | evilytwisted | i have the power.. so why not :P |
| 18:44.31 | Rug | =) yeah doesn't matter to me how much horsepower I have, I still prefer CLI and utility vs eyecandy. |
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| 18:45.13 | evilytwisted | Im a windows brat... ever since i was introduced to win from my school days |
| 18:45.23 | evilytwisted | used to using apple.. with the real floppy disks |
| 18:45.26 | evilytwisted | and macintosh.. |
| 18:45.43 | evilytwisted | even though my system isnt windows, I want to make it kinda like windows |
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| 18:47.44 | evilytwisted | hey HamRadio do you know alot about steam? |
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| 18:54.28 | HamRadio | No I don't evilytwisted |
| 18:54.36 | HamRadio | I don't play many games |
| 18:54.41 | evilytwisted | ah ok |
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| 18:55.10 | BluesKaj | evilytwisted, like windows look on linux, check this out http://zorin-os.com/ |
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| 18:55.47 | evilytwisted | BluesKaj, I saw this once |
| 18:55.58 | evilytwisted | what distro is it based off of? |
| 18:56.56 | BluesKaj | evilytwisted, ubuntu, http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin |
| 18:57.06 | evilytwisted | I just saw that |
| 18:57.07 | evilytwisted | sorry |
| 18:57.54 | LeeJunFan | I'm trying to figure out if calligra flow is stupid, or I am... How do you add stencils to a page? Drag nor clicking in any way works. |
| 18:58.21 | scummos | does zorin do anything except theming |
| 18:58.39 | HamRadio | I don't think I will ever use Ubuntu or an Ubuntu based distro again |
| 18:58.46 | BluesKaj | evilytwisted, no KDE tho, so I didn't look any further |
| 18:58.55 | HamRadio | I would either use SolydK, which is straight debian with KDE |
| 18:59.01 | evilytwisted | its fine, It looks like kde BluesKaj |
| 18:59.13 | HamRadio | or Manjaro, which is Arch made easy with KDE |
| 18:59.13 | evilytwisted | I might ahve to to get this and run it multi boot |
| 18:59.31 | BluesKaj | well looks are fine but I prefer the real thing |
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| 19:16.37 | evilytwisted | would any of you know why steam on kde 4.11.5 keeps giving me segmentation fault? im using lm 16 kde and vanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850] |
| 19:16.37 | evilytwisted | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.22 | evilytwisted | http://pastebin.com/3MLkfU1g |
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| 19:20.50 | scummos | evilytwisted: does it work with another WM? |
| 19:21.01 | evilytwisted | dont have another wm |
| 19:22.06 | scummos | install one |
| 19:22.08 | scummos | apt-get install openbox |
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| 19:51.47 | pietro10 | Hi. I'd like to be able to drag and drop links from Firefox into Konsole and have them show up on my comman dline by default, not try to open a menu or connect to the server they came from. Is there a way I can set it to do that? Checking the preferneces tunred up nothing... Thanks. |
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| 19:56.41 | pietro10 | never mind, bbl |
| 19:56.46 | pietro10 | (will ask again when I get back) |
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| 21:05.57 | pietro10 | different q: running 4.12.3: what happened to Save session? I'd like to save session without logging out. Or is that a distro--specific removal?? |
| 21:06.02 | pietro10 | in the launcher menu |
| 21:06.10 | pietro10 | -extra ? |
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| 21:15.12 | viranch | anybody aware of a way to run KDE screensaver (along with locking the screen) under openbox? (not running openbox inside KDE, but while running it as standalone WM) |
| 21:15.58 | ShalokShalom | viranch: Why Openbox o.O |
| 21:16.23 | viranch | plasma+plasmoids is memory intensive |
| 21:16.25 | ShalokShalom | KaOS GNU/Linux boots up quicker than Manjaro Openbox. |
| 21:16.40 | ShalokShalom | KaOS use 400mb by default, with all Services on. |
| 21:17.12 | viranch | ShalokShalom: I'm sure plasma is snappy these days - but I've made ways through WM-only setup and feel more comfortable with it |
| 21:17.31 | ShalokShalom | That Number will shrink in the next Release, thanks too Baloo. |
| 21:17.35 | Kitzu_ | viranch, would be a bad idea. The whole kde runtime system needs to be running, just to start the screensaver and screenlocker. I don't know if its even possible to run them with openbox |
| 21:17.44 | ShalokShalom | viranch: Try KaOS and you will switch. |
| 21:17.48 | ShalokShalom | CPU~Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU T9600 (-MCP-) clocked at 2801.000 Mhz Kernel~3.13.5-1 x86_64 Up~4:09 Mem~3054.0/3825.9MB HDD~60.0GB(51.9% used) Procs~131 Client~Quassel [M] v0.9.2 (dist-7a8fa5c) inxi~1.7.31 |
| 21:17.49 | Kitzu_ | but it would waste a lot of resources |
| 21:17.55 | ShalokShalom | I boot up in 2.1 seconds. |
| 21:18.05 | ShalokShalom | With a OCZ Agility 3. |
| 21:18.24 | ShalokShalom | Kitzu_: Not in our Distribution, believe me. |
| 21:18.28 | ShalokShalom | No GTK by default. |
| 21:18.38 | ShalokShalom | Pure Qt and KDE Libs :D |
| 21:19.04 | Kitzu_ | People that try to answer another question instead the question asked confuse me o_o |
| 21:19.22 | Kitzu_ | i don't think that someone would like to switch his distribution, just to get a screensaver running |
| 21:19.32 | viranch | Kitzu_: I already have krunner running (really convenient under openbox, searching/running apps etc.) along with kmix/klipper etc so I guess KDE runtime is pretty much loaded already |
| 21:19.37 | ShalokShalom | http://kaosx.us/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37 |
| 21:19.50 | ShalokShalom | viranch: Which Distro ? |
| 21:19.58 | viranch | ShalokShalom: ArchLinux :) |
| 21:20.34 | ShalokShalom | 9.7 seconds to boot up in KaOS, 23.4 in Archlinux: http://kaosx.us/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37#p404 |
| 21:21.04 | Kitzu_ | ShalokShalom, he's not here to get learned about another distribution, he asked another question |
| 21:21.08 | ShalokShalom | We are independend and build up from Scratch, all packaged and maintained by one single person, Anke. :D |
| 21:21.33 | ShalokShalom | Kitzu_: Yes, and i offer him a much better Solution. :) |
| 21:21.35 | viranch | I don't care about the boot up, I always suspend my laptop to RAM, and KDE tends to leak memory over time (my uptime is in days) |
| 21:21.45 | ShalokShalom | viranch: 400mb |
| 21:21.56 | ShalokShalom | This will decrease in the next Release. |
| 21:21.58 | Kitzu_ | viranch, i'm looking for a way to run kscreenlocker with openbox |
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| 21:22.29 | viranch | Kitzu_: thanks, I've googled a lot, not even found such a question asked by anyone on a forum/SO |
| 21:23.07 | ShalokShalom | viranch: Dont compare your KDE Installation with another one, that you dont know. |
| 21:23.22 | ShalokShalom | KDE Libs dont tends to leaks Memory. |
| 21:23.26 | ShalokShalom | Your Arch does it. |
| 21:23.39 | Kitzu_ | you are not helpful. |
| 21:24.26 | viranch | ShalokShalom: I don't care - I'm not looking for a distro switch, let me know only if you have a generic solution to my question. |
| 21:25.10 | ShalokShalom | I just wish me, that you dont push the wonderfull KDE SC down, just because your Distro is crap. |
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| 21:25.31 | viranch | I don't think me not using KDE will "push it down" |
| 21:25.52 | ShalokShalom | They People spread lies, i love KDE to much, just to look, while this happens. |
| 21:25.55 | ShalokShalom | Thanks a lot |
| 21:26.07 | ShalokShalom | viranch: U spread lies about it. |
| 21:26.12 | viranch | I'm a KDE lover, trust me. even under openbox, I only use KDE apps, I just have bit of problems with plasma thats all :) |
| 21:26.22 | ShalokShalom | << and KDE tends to leak memory over time (my uptime is in days) >> |
| 21:26.29 | ShalokShalom | This is not correct |
| 21:26.55 | Kitzu_ | viranch, try to execute: /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet |
| 21:27.01 | ShalokShalom | Archlinux with the KDE SC, tends to leak memory over time (my uptime is in days), that is correct. |
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| 21:28.01 | viranch | Kitzu_: ooh that did run the screensaver, but I was unable to unlock the locked-screen |
| 21:28.25 | viranch | ShalokShalom: ok you're right, my Arch is crappy. thank you for pointing it out. |
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| 21:28.43 | Kitzu_ | viranch, yeah, i have the same effect with kde running. I thought not able to unlock was just a bug that i have atm :/ |
| 21:29.17 | Kitzu_ | viranch, but if i try to lock the session via the lock session button in kde, unlocking is possible |
| 21:29.34 | Kitzu_ | so this seems to be a second command |
| 21:29.34 | ShalokShalom | Some People love buggy Software on a productive System, like it seems. |
| 21:29.53 | Kitzu_ | *rolls eyes* |
| 21:30.00 | viranch | Kitzu_: alright so `/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet --immediateLock` seems to work :D |
| 21:30.26 | Kitzu_ | ah, nice |
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| 21:31.04 | viranch | kde screensaver in openbox -- check! ;) |
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| 21:31.34 | Kitzu_ | yeah and you even didn't need to switch your distribution ;) |
| 21:32.01 | viranch | haha! :hifi: |
| 21:32.11 | Kitzu_ | *clap* :D |
| 21:32.12 | viranch | :hi5: * :P |
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| 22:39.15 | diegoviola | hi |
| 22:39.27 | diegoviola | how do i open http urls on konsole with the keyboard? |
| 22:39.31 | diegoviola | i don't have a mouse |
| 22:42.19 | Kitzu_ | diegoviola, kde-open http://url |
| 22:42.34 | Kitzu_ | this will use your standard-browser. |
| 22:42.52 | diegoviola | yeah but do i have to type the entire url? |
| 22:43.29 | diegoviola | i want to open the url someone else wrote on irc |
| 22:43.37 | diegoviola | by like double clicking it |
| 22:43.45 | diegoviola | or by clicking |
| 22:43.52 | diegoviola | or right-click, open url |
| 22:43.52 | Kitzu_ | which irc client? |
| 22:43.56 | diegoviola | but i don't have a mouse |
| 22:43.58 | diegoviola | weechat |
| 22:45.12 | Kitzu_ | huh, you should ask the guys in #weechat how to open a link via keyboard |
| 22:45.31 | Kitzu_ | i think they should know this |
| 22:45.56 | diegoviola | ty |
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| 22:59.16 | ovidiu-florin | My plasma keeps crashing. Here's the output of when I try to staart it: http://paste.kde.org/pcn7thkfu/xhnhtw |
| 22:59.46 | ovidiu-florin | I'm running on Arch Linux x64 |
| 23:00.37 | scummos | ovidiu-florin: backtrace? |
| 23:00.44 | scummos | report a bug with the backtrace |
| 23:01.07 | ovidiu-florin | I can't |
| 23:01.16 | ovidiu-florin | because of that I can't connect to the internet |
| 23:02.18 | scummos | well, copy the backtrace the same way you copied the log ;) |
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| 23:04.06 | ovidiu-florin | how do I do that? |
| 23:04.52 | scummos | generate a backtrace? either drkonqui pops up |
| 23:05.09 | scummos | or if not, run plasma-desktop in gdb (like, gdb plasma-desktop), then type run, then when it crashes type thread apply all bt |
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| 23:23.19 | ccolorado | Hi, is there any way I can remove an email sugestino from kmail ? I keep sending mail to an address with a typo. |
| 23:24.04 | Alumin | Settings -> Composer -> Edit Recent Addresses... |
| 23:24.33 | Alumin | also, stop making typos. Problem solved. BAM. |
| 23:25.00 | moviuro | LOL @ Alumin |
| 23:25.45 | Alumin | :) |
| 23:27.32 | ccolorado | Alumin: your logic is not wrong. |
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| 23:28.56 | Alumin | Simple, reasonable solutions are my forté! |
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| 23:54.18 | pietro10 | Hi. What happened to the Save Session option in the KDE menu? I would ike to save session without logging out. Or is this a distro-specific thing? thanks. |
| 23:55.08 | thiago | is your session configured to reload last saved session? |
| 23:55.17 | thiago | there's no point in saving if it's not going to get reloaded. |
| 23:55.25 | thiago | the menu is removed if you're not going to reload it |
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| 23:57.14 | pietro10 | thiago: my session is configured ot reload last saved session |
| 23:57.22 | thiago | oh |
| 23:57.27 | thiago | then the menu item should show |
| 23:58.14 | pietro10 | then I'll assume this is a distro change first; thanks |
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