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00:40.51moviurowhy would virtuoso-t be running if its database .kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/ does not grow? Is it only meant to slow down my PC? Don't misunderstand me, I like the idea. Just hate my PC to be soooooooo sluggish. I'm using an SSD and even <Tab> in Konsole takes ages to load O_O
00:41.22moviuroor even, is there a clean way to reset the database ?
00:44.06moviuronvm, rm -rf $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/
00:44.16moviuroand then nepomukctl start
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01:23.47scummosmoviuro: there's this tool called nepomukcleaner
01:24.10scummosand you know software can do calculations without producing more net worth of data ;)
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05:34.27wolftunemoviuro: just a note: I got touchegg to work! It scrolls in Firefox with two fingers now. It doesn't scroll here in Konversation for some reason though
05:34.44wolftunebasically, I'll have to play with it more, but effectively it works, so thanks!
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09:54.15david89Hello. Where can I find translation names for panel items? I need to add back Task Manager but I have kde in italian and can't find the correct name.
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09:59.39Addledavid89: Google translate says "task manager" in Italian is "task manager". Gee thanks, Google!
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10:00.18david89Addle: hahah I know!
10:01.33Addledavid89: This might help: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Tasks/it
10:01.53Addledavid89: You can switch languages back and forth, as well.
10:02.08Addledavid89: Gestore dei processi, probably
10:02.52david89wow, I'll go try
10:03.35Jucatoyeah Name[it]=Gestore dei processi
10:04.00david89Addle: that was it, thank you very much!
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12:02.52moviuroHi there! On archlinux, I just installed bluedevil and am trying to add my JABRA HALO v2 headset to it, but the wizard keeps crashing when I select the headset in the list of devices and click "Next". I have no idea how to debug this... any help is appreciated
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12:07.02BluesKajHiyas all
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12:28.50patkoscsabahow can I start ktorrent minimzed?
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12:29.26Fingerlingwhat do you mean?
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12:29.48scummoseither the application has an option for it or you can usually hack it with dbus
12:29.50patkoscsabawhen I start ktorrent, I want it to be started minimized in the tray (no window)
12:30.35patkoscsabaI couldn't find the option, that's why I am asking if someone knows. Thanks.
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12:32.35moviuropatkoscsaba: you could let it run in the systray when shutting down your computer: it'll stay in place when you come back
12:32.46banymi am looking for a good screen cast solution, does someone has a good tool which is up to date.
12:33.20patkoscsabamoviuro: yes? that's fine for me. I will test it.
12:35.38scummosotherwise you can also do this: qdbus org.ktorrent.ktorrent /ktorrent/MainWindow_1 org.qtproject.Qt.QWidget.close
12:36.56patkoscsabascummos: do that whre exactly? just run it once in the console and it will be permanent?
12:37.24patkoscsabascummos: or run it after ktorrent starts at startup?
12:37.24scummostry moviuro's suggestion first
12:37.36scummosyou'd need to do that after it started up, each time you want to hide the window, yes
12:38.14patkoscsabamoviuro's suggestion implies that I restore session at kde startup. I don't like to do that. I prefer a clean session each time and set my list of apps to auto-start
12:38.52scummosok
12:39.19scummoshmm, when I quit ktorrent with the main window hidden, it remembers that
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12:41.35patkoscsabaI can confirm
12:41.39patkoscsabait works auto-magically
12:41.42patkoscsabathat cool
12:42.07patkoscsabaone other problem I have with KDE for the past 2-3 months or so, but I always deferred to fix it is ...
12:42.20patkoscsabait takes a long time to log out from KDE, up to 10-15 seconds
12:42.36patkoscsabacompared to the previous instantanous logouts that I had before
12:42.41patkoscsabaany idea how to debug this?
12:43.08patkoscsabaI jsut stare at a black screen for those long seconds while a log out happens or when I do a shut down
12:43.11scummosyou could first try looking if anything uses CPU or disk
12:43.19patkoscsabanope
12:43.25scummoshmm, then it's more difficult
12:43.37patkoscsabacpu usage is less than 1% ... maybe 2% from time to time
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12:44.30scummoscould try killing processes from tty1 and see if that makes it finish the logout immediately
12:44.35scummosit's quite trial-and-error-ish though
12:44.57patkoscsabaif I do halt from the console, it shuts down the computer in 2 seconds, cleanly
12:45.19gnephiakMy KMail is really slow compared with Thunderbird...Is there anyway to optimize KMail?
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13:31.45chris_hdjust noticed: KDateComboBox allows me to select dates out of the allowed range. Is this a bug?
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13:42.14scummoschris_hd: probably?
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13:58.18xxavihi
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13:59.58xxaviI lost the application button menu, How I recovery it ?
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14:04.00scummosxxavi: right click the panel, and select add Add Widgets
14:04.04scummosthen add the launcher you want
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14:22.06toothpickAnyone here uses be::shell?
14:22.43haridas1Hi, I'm trying to fix my broken kjots after the akonadi integration update... I would love to start a fresh kjots and migrate the old file based nots into the akonadi... I'm finding it difficult to start a kjots freshly, after removing the partially populated books, no delete option on the UI. How can I do this ?
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14:33.02scthola
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14:36.29xxaviscummos: ok, thanks, your idea work for me !+
14:36.47scummosok good
14:36.57xxaviscummos: thanks
14:37.08scummosyou're welcome
14:37.35xxaviscummos: good
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15:03.26chris_hdscummos: thank you
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15:31.17sctcuales son las putas nuevas
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15:41.12pietro10well I now have more data on my fonts issue: if there's a fonts.conf file in my .config/fontconfig, then all programs display fonts incorrectly, not just GTK+ programs - this happened in the past, but at least now deleting fonts.conf fixes the KDE programs (which didn't happen before) - lack of fonts.conf, however, does not fix the GTK+ programs from rendering fonts incorrectly... Does KDE not use fontconfig by default or something?
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15:53.10pietro10actually, here's a picture; not sure why I didn't make one before - http://imgur.com/dyfjNcz left: GTK; right: KDE - I'm considering the GTK+ ones wrong
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16:02.45rdieterpietro10: kde most definitely uses fontconfig
16:03.07pietro10right, but I mean does it use something else if there's no fonts.conf
16:03.14rdietergtk does too, but it's settings are often brokered by an intermediate daemon, like gnome-settings-daemon (or xsettings-kde)
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16:03.21pietro10because I'm not understanding why GTK+ programs look different
16:03.27rdietersee my latter comment
16:03.31pietro10yeah
16:03.36pietro10I installed gnome-setttings-daemon but to no effect
16:03.47rdieterwell, it needs to run, not just be installed
16:04.01rdieterbut running it outside of gnome usually isn't recommended
16:04.15pietro10ok
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16:04.39rdieterId argue if gtk/gnome apps dont use fontconfig defaults (in the absense of a custom fonts.conf, like kde), then that's a bug
16:04.43pietro10so what other options can I do? if I make a fonts.conf KDE programs us ethe GTK font rendering and none of the other hinting options look right
16:04.55pietro10hm
16:05.00pietro10so you're saying this is KDE using the defaults?
16:05.04rdieteryes
16:05.12pietro10hm...
16:05.18rdieterunless you have evidence to the contrary
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16:05.44rdieterit's also possible that kde default font settings vary from what fontconfig defaults are too
16:05.52pietro10right
16:06.06pietro10well let's figure out which one it is =P
16:07.43pietro10actually I'm not usre what fontconfig's defaults are
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16:22.48Safa_[A_boy]Hello, Can someone tell me how to set the frame color like the one in this photo? http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/article_images/79035_990x587.jpg
16:23.59pietro10I have a feeling that's a custom variant of the oxygen style
16:25.13scummosthe widget or the window style?
16:25.28scummosthe widget style doesn't look like oxygen, more like a qtcurve variant
16:25.48pietro10he wants the window style
16:25.56Safa_[A_boy]right :)
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16:27.35scummosto me it looks like just the border set to small and this option where everything is colorful enabled
16:27.42scummosand with compositing disabled, too
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17:39.23ZoorHello
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17:39.39ZoorDoes anybody knows how to play a video via samba?
17:40.00ZoorI'm trying with kaffeine, vlc, dragonplayer, plasma media center...
17:40.31mamarleySome video players support streaming over SMB.  I know mplayer does, but I don't know about any others.
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17:43.54Zoormamarley: I have it installed. I'm going to install kmplayer to see if it works because I need an interface, it's for a child
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17:49.23mamarleyZoor: Interesting.  What distro are you using?
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17:51.48Zoormamarley: kubuntu
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17:52.12mamarleyZoor: You aren't by any chance already running 14.04 are you?
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17:53.47Zoori'm uing the last
17:53.48Zoorverssion
17:54.03mamarleySo, 13.10?
17:54.08totteQuick poll - are your settings kept in ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 and what distribution do you use?
17:54.25mamarleytotte: Kubuntu, ~/.kde
17:54.57Zoormamarley: yes
17:55.15rdietertotte: fedora (and redhat) uses ~/.kde
17:55.46totteCurious. What's recommended by upstream?
17:55.53mamarleyZoor: Have you tried launching mplayer from the command line?  I have a Kubuntu 13.10 system right next to me and I can use it to play videos over SMB just fine.
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17:56.25Zoormamarley: I have to leave, if you are here later, I'll check it out, thank you very much and sorry!
17:56.44mamarleyI am here all the time :)
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19:42.27KDDAIm having problems with multiple mail accounts in KMail, recieving works great but i tries to send all mail via the default account, anyone know how to fix this?
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20:17.49pdobrogostHi! I'm trying to install kwin-tiling script for KWin with plasmapkg --type kwinscript -i . and get dialog with "Plasma requires an additional servcie for this operation" declarativescript script engine but when I press continue I get "Could not find service in any configured software source"
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20:25.26Zoormamarley: Hi, do you remember me?
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20:37.24ritslinuxopenSUSE 12.3 with KDE4.12: After closing Kontact his PID keeps running. I rebuild de db of akonadi but same problem. What could be the reason ?
20:37.45mamarleyZoor: Yep :)
20:38.48Zoormamarley: It's necessary to mount the remote directory?
20:39.23mamarleyZoor: I don't have to.  I can just launch it like "mplayer smb:/host/path/tofile.mpg"
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20:44.44Zoormamarley: http://paste.debian.net/plain/82270
20:45.42mamarleyYou passed it a directory, not a file path.
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20:49.32Zoormamarley: hmm how exactly? (sorry xD)
20:50.15mamarleyThe path in your command line is to a directory, not a file.  You should pick the file you want to play instead of the directory containing it.
20:52.00Zoormamarley: lol, sorry, I copied it wrong, wait pleasse
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20:52.46Zoormamarley: http://paste.debian.net/plain/82273 now yes xD
20:53.38mamarleyI haven't seen that particular error before.  If I had to guess, I would say there is something going on with your permissions.
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21:00.20Zoormamarley: Is there a way to play that video with specific permissions? I mean, mplayer user:password smb://etce
21:00.45mamarleyI don't know.  This would probably be better in #mplayer2.
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21:01.40Zoormamarley: Ok, thank you very much :)
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21:39.20wilmaaaahhi all. i'm looking for a way to import iceweasel sessions in konqueror.
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