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00:38.33hdevalenceI think something's gone wrong and my cursor is stuck with a bouncing loading icon. Is there a way to reset it?
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00:38.57Sho_normally you're in for 30s of waiting
00:39.12hdevalenceI think it's been longer than that
00:40.33hdevalenceoh, turning it off and on again in systemsettings solves the problem
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03:33.58techno_x64hi guys, QT5 update 5.2.1-1 and now conky is not visible in desktop kde
03:34.00techno_x64Is there any solution?
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05:55.19Safa_[A_boy]Is the lokalize maintainer here?
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06:12.07valorieSafa_[A_boy]: you might check in the www chan
06:12.20valorie#kde-www
06:13.23Safa_[A_boy]valorie: He's not answering my email, so I only want to know if he is here so I can talk with him :)
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06:31.35valorieI'm just saying that www is a more likely chan
06:31.51valoriedo you know the name/nick?
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09:33.49cousin_luigiGreetings.
09:34.07cousin_luigiDoes anyone know where to find a korganizer developer? Nobody on #kontact ever answers me.
09:34.57valoriecousin_luigi: not all teams use IRC a lot
09:35.08valorieperhaps try the list -- everyone uses the list
09:35.53valoriehttps://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim
09:38.15cousin_luigivalorie: ok, will try that
09:38.17cousin_luigithanks
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09:40.14valoriethe list is always the best place
09:40.20valorieIRC is just the most convenient
09:40.23valorie:-)
09:42.16cousin_luigi:)
09:43.40Safa_[A_boy]Anyone know how to spell check in Konversation two languages at the same time?
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09:45.13valorieSafa_[A_boy]: if it's possible, the folks in #konversation will know
09:46.29Safa_[A_boy]Ok. see you later
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11:36.52ajehalsHello folks, Looking for some help with akonadi, specifically whether there is a mechanism to prune the file_db_data cache sanely..
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11:42.36BluesKajHey folks
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11:46.08ajehalsBluesKaj: Hey.
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12:48.36rdieter_workajehals: try 'akonadictl vacuum' ?
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12:52.04cousin_luigiGreetings.
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13:15.48Turingihi, is there a kde app that manages KDE's desktop noises?
13:16.04Turinginot system sounds or system settings in general, just the sounds the UI makes
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13:17.56Jucatocould you give an example? because "sounds the UI makes" is technically under system sounds and can be found in System Settings under the Notifications group
13:18.06cousin_luigiTuringi: I think it's handled on application basis. I can't tell you where to find it in systemsettings, because my kde is localised.
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13:18.35cousin_luigiTuringi: it's the blue round icon with an exclamation mark anyway
13:18.37JucatoSystem Settings -> Application and System Notifications -> Manage Notifications
13:18.46TuringiJucato: there is a noise generated on some errors, like when trying to overwrite a file
13:19.18Turingiusing opensuse 13.1 with vanilla kde
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13:19.57JucatoTuringi: yep, it's in there. under the Component: KDE Workspace
13:20.44Jucatobut note that KDE Workspace handles the generic sounds, other apps might have their own settings. if you really want, you can turn them all off in the Player Settings tab (same page)
13:21.04Turingiit's a kde-specific thing
13:21.15JackWinterwow, now i'm happy. kde finally remembers on what virtual desktops to restart my apps again.
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13:22.59TuringiJucato: is there a particular designation for "KDE's specific sounds"?
13:23.11Turingias in, name by which it's referred
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13:25.28JucatoTuringi: sorry i got disconnected
13:25.32Jucatodid you find it?
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13:27.00Jucatohttp://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/07/plasma-desktopzq1163.png
13:28.20TuringiJucato: that's all I could find http://i.imgur.com/AMiSrgB.png
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13:29.04JucatoTuringi: [21:18] <Jucato> System Settings -> Application and System Notifications -> Manage Notifications
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13:29.46JucatoSystem Settings is the app (program name: systemsettings)
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13:30.44rdieterTuringi: once there, I think you'll want to look at Event Source: KDE Workspace
13:31.25rdieterI guess that is what Jucato showed in his screenshot
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13:31.52TuringiJucato: this is my system settings window http://i.imgur.com/Am8gsez.png
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13:32.22rdieterright, click on item labelled "Application and System Notifications"
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13:34.02TuringiJucato rdieter: thanks, so I will default to system bell instead of notifications and then shut off the system bell
13:34.15TuringiI still want to receive those notifications, just not the noises
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13:34.38rdieteryou can turn off the sound portion of individual notifications too
13:34.48rdieterbut yeah, if you want them *all* off, there ya go
13:35.03Turingiwell, there are dozens of apps, each with 10-20 notifications of their own :p
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13:36.16Turingithanks all, it's gone now
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13:38.27Jucatordieter: sorry my phone's connection is terrible. did Turingi get it sorted out?
13:38.35rdieterJucato: thinkso
13:38.38TuringiJucato: yes, thanks!
13:38.42Jucatoi wonder if my lines got missed
13:39.01Jucatoah ok. good
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15:45.49kadoshhello
15:45.56kadoshI want to start using activities
15:46.30kadoshI find them pretty amazin, but I dont find info about the templates and how they work.
15:48.09kadoshI lookd on userbase.kde.org
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15:50.54doomikusI'm using the mouse emulation option via the tenkey and like it but I have two issues.  1) I can't make the mouse move faster than 2000 px/sec 2) is there a way to have the mouse snap to the edges of the windows?  ctrl+9 might jump to the upper right corner
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16:01.28Remuzi updated kde from 4.12.1 -> 4.12.2 and now my tray icons are 48 pixels big (huge) but they should be 16. in /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/packages/org.kde.systemtray/contents/ui/IconsList.qml icon size is set to 16 at it should. How con I make them smaller?
16:01.51Remuzsome 3rd party icons such as dropbox and clementine are normal 16 pixels.
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16:03.16Remuzhere's content of that file: http://susepaste.org/16368216
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17:01.33planhthsRemuz: Did you tried some other plasma theme?
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17:02.06planhthsbecause opensuse's theme has big tray icons
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17:34.53rndbitis there any way to disable window dragging by grabbing empty space from within my application? i have this custom window that im drawing things on background so it should not get dragged
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17:36.26thiagorun oxygen-settings and configure there
17:36.45Remuzplanhths: tried to change icon theme at desktop theme settings and copy the icon folder manually, relog, but it won't change the icon theme.
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17:39.10rndbitthats not a solution. user should not be required to disable that in order to use some application
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18:08.27Kingnoloi want to ask how do i get the same glass effect as window decoration on  the window panel that  is affected by colour scheme/
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18:21.05immotusdoes KDE keep track of what configuration changes have been made by the user in ~/.kde4  ?   I'm looking for something to make it easier to track down which configs are broken from config file changes after a KDE upgrade.
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18:26.40rdieterimmotus: in general, yes (though the default location is ~/.kde , but some distros modify that)
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18:31.53immotusrdieter: where does KDE keep track of what the user changes vs. the apps defaults?
18:32.21rdieterimmotus: only non default stuff is saved
18:32.51rdieterimmotus: ie, if using defaults, nothing is saved/modified under ~/.kde
18:34.58rdieterimmotus: does that answer your question?
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18:35.47immotusrdieter: so, for example, if I didn't change the widget layout in my default KDE panel I would not have a config file in ~/.kde associated with the panel?
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18:40.13thiagoimmotus: upgrades don't modify ~/.kde
18:42.05immotusthiago: right.. and so when an upgraded KDE app has a new config (or the old config breaks the new config parser) my KDE breaks.  I'm looking for a way to quickly track down which parts are broken.. hopefully to find a way to automate fixing it
18:43.01rdieterimmotus: plasma layouts/configs are special though
18:43.50rdieterand are an exception to this, they are generated on first login, and can be modified on software upgrades by javascript snippets.
18:44.31rdieternon-plasma apps sometimes employ kconf update scripts as needed to migrate configuration too
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18:45.42techno_x64hi guys, QT5 update 5.2.1-1 and now conky is not visible in desktop kde
18:45.45techno_x64Is there any solution?
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18:47.09thiagoimmotus: sorry, there is kconfupdate
18:47.20thiagoimmotus: they leave a message in the file indicating it's been run
18:47.36rdietertechno_x64: conky as in http://conky.sf.net/ ?  not sure how qt5 would affect that (neither kde desktop nor conky use Qt5 afaict)
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18:50.21techno_x64QT5 upgrade to 5.2.1-1 and reboot observe the conky no longer appears
18:50.42rdietertechno_x64: I stand by my statement, your problem is likely not related to Qt5
18:51.32techno_x64Then what can be the problem?
18:52.25HisaoNakaiHi, is there an onscreen keyboard for KDE? Although, what I'm actually looking for is something that can display what key/s is/are being pressed at any given time.
18:52.40HisaoNakaiAny suggestions for either would be greatly welcome.
18:54.05rdietertechno_x64: try running conky from konsole?  any errors?
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18:55.54techno_x64rdieter: if you have reason is not QT5
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18:56.59rdieteryes
18:57.09techno_x64the rason is libiw.so.29
18:57.28techno_x64libiw.so.29 lib the wireless tools
18:57.32techno_x64:S
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19:08.59menace1hi, i use kde konsole and zsh. when i use find, than the terminal title seems to change to subdirectories in which find currently works. does anyone know that behaviour and how to stop that?
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19:20.03scummosmenace1: make the terminal title independent of the process / working directory
19:20.19scummosabout making find stop change its working directory all the time: punch the people who wrote find ;P
19:20.37scummosan even more curious effect can be achieved by running find in dolphin's embedded konsole
19:20.47menace1hrm
19:20.48menace1okay
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19:45.50cb400fmeditation maybe
19:46.22cb400for excersise.. depends on the pain I guess
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19:59.59immotusmenace1:  change teh "Tab title format" in "Konsole -> Settings -> Edit Current Profile -> Tabs" so that it doesn't include "%n"
20:00.39immotusmenace1: and if that doesn't work, take out the "%d" as well.. set it to something you like :^)
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20:29.08galegosimpaticoWhat is the current status on the port of KDE to cellphones?
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20:41.44menace1immotus: thanks :) (and scummos as well, of course)
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21:36.54nylochi, anyone here who knows if it is possible to force a two row layout in the system tray
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21:58.17doomikusI'm using the mouse emulation option via the tenkey and like it but I have two issues.   1) I can't make the mouse move faster than 2000 px/sec 2) is there a way to have the  mouse snap to the edges of the windows?  ctrl+9 might jump to the upper right corner
21:58.25doomikusI'm using the mouse emulation option via the tenkey and like it but I have two issues.   1) I can't make the mouse move faster than 2000 px/sec 2) is there a way to have the  mouse snap to the edges of the windows?  ctrl+9 might jump to the upper right corner
21:59.18doomikusI'm using the mouse emulation option via the tenkey and like it but I have two issues.  1) I can't make the mouse move faster than 2000 px/sec 2) is there a way to have the mouse snap to the edges of the windows?  ctrl+9 might jump to the upper right corner
21:59.27doomikusshoot, sorry flood guys
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23:31.48AristideHi !
23:31.51AristideI have a problem, Notifications has not displayed in « Notify » widget
23:31.57Aristidebut in a uggly grey square x)
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23:38.22Aristidehttp://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopQ15392.png
23:38.25AristideIf you want a screenshot
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23:53.48scummosAristide: is the notification plasmoid actually there?
23:53.59scummosthis is what happens when you remove it
23:54.04AristideYes
23:54.04scummosoh yes it's there, hmm
23:54.14scummosI think applications still have the choice to use this one
23:54.20AristideIf you open screenshot, you can see notify icon at the bottom right
23:54.29scummoswhat happens when you do "notify-send hello"
23:54.30AristideBut Click on them do nothing
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23:54.53AristidePut cursor on Notify icon don't display tool tip about widget
23:54.58AristideClick on icon do nothing too
23:55.09AristideThis widget is « freeze » :3
23:55.37scummosrestarting plasma doesn't fix it?
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23:55.50AristideNo
23:56.03AristideI don't have try to reboot
23:56.22AristideWait I back in many seconds
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23:59.29AristideHi again
23:59.35Aristidescummos: Reboot don't fix problem :/
23:59.51scummosAristide: can you remove the widget and re-add it?

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