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| 00:08.16 | BillyZane | hi |
| 00:08.25 | BillyZane | do you guys know how to start KDE plasma from shell? |
| 00:08.40 | neoclust | BillyZane: plasma-desktop |
| 00:08.42 | neoclust | is the command |
| 00:08.46 | BillyZane | ohhhh ty |
| 00:08.47 | BillyZane | one sec |
| 00:09.15 | BillyZane | hmm, didn't work |
| 00:09.18 | BillyZane | some sort of Dbus error |
| 00:09.30 | BillyZane | some sort of daemon error |
| 00:09.56 | BillyZane | i need a $Display for X11 |
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| 00:10.09 | oldlaptop | which one? |
| 00:10.11 | oldlaptop | or all at once? |
| 00:10.49 | BillyZane | Session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication |
| 00:10.51 | thiago | just tell us what the error is |
| 00:11.18 | BillyZane | one sec.. |
| 00:11.59 | oldlaptop | stupid question: you're not trying to start from a bare text console, are you? |
| 00:12.36 | BillyZane | KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $Display for X11" |
| 00:12.49 | BillyZane | i'm pressing ctrl+alt+F2 |
| 00:12.55 | BillyZane | i logged in as a different session |
| 00:12.59 | BillyZane | when i type "startx" |
| 00:13.07 | BillyZane | it launches X and it goes straight in to cinnamon |
| 00:13.16 | BillyZane | i can switch back and forth between cinnamon and my current desktop |
| 00:13.18 | oldlaptop | aaah |
| 00:13.32 | oldlaptop | you don't want to run plasma-desktop directly when X isn't running! |
| 00:13.41 | BillyZane | true |
| 00:13.48 | oldlaptop | does 'startkde' launch an X server first? |
| 00:13.59 | oldlaptop | I know the xfce equivalent does |
| 00:14.06 | BillyZane | well the error i posted above is what happens when i try startkde |
| 00:14.10 | oldlaptop | ohhhh |
| 00:14.15 | BillyZane | oh wait sorry, it's what happens when i try plasma-desktop |
| 00:14.16 | oldlaptop | so it doesn't |
| 00:14.20 | BillyZane | when i do startkde i get... |
| 00:14.40 | BillyZane | $Display is not set or cannot connect to the X server |
| 00:14.57 | oldlaptop | okay... try 'xinit -- startkde' or so |
| 00:15.15 | BillyZane | ok |
| 00:15.44 | BillyZane | it did a bunch of lines |
| 00:16.00 | BillyZane | and it says "fatal error, unrecognized option: startkde" |
| 00:16.04 | BillyZane | and then it quits |
| 00:16.56 | BillyZane | thiago, btw, hi |
| 00:17.09 | BillyZane | thiago, you might not remember me, but i remember you |
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| 00:17.25 | BillyZane | thiago, a couple months back, you helped me out with some issue i had |
| 00:17.34 | oldlaptop | BillyZane: not 'xinit --startkde' |
| 00:17.38 | oldlaptop | 'xinit -- startkde' |
| 00:17.42 | oldlaptop | the space is important |
| 00:17.44 | BillyZane | that's how i typed it |
| 00:17.48 | BillyZane | xinit -- startkde |
| 00:18.15 | thiago | pass the full path to startkde |
| 00:18.22 | oldlaptop | huh... was it 'xinit startkde --' ? |
| 00:18.57 | thiago | oh, right |
| 00:18.58 | oldlaptop | yeah, the separator (--) comes after |
| 00:19.07 | BillyZane | thiago, oh i think i remember, you were helping me with Qt |
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| 00:19.15 | BillyZane | oh, ok i'll try that |
| 00:19.41 | oldlaptop | it's xinit <program> <program args> -- <options> |
| 00:19.45 | BillyZane | it's not working |
| 00:19.49 | BillyZane | i think it might be because... |
| 00:19.55 | BillyZane | i'm running xfce |
| 00:20.03 | BillyZane | it said resource unavailable |
| 00:20.25 | BillyZane | fatal IO error 11 (resource temporarily unavailable) on X server |
| 00:20.46 | oldlaptop | hmgh |
| 00:20.58 | BillyZane | server is already active for display 0 |
| 00:21.01 | oldlaptop | try 'xinit startkde -- :1' |
| 00:21.25 | oldlaptop | you might have to do some twiddling before it lets you do that by the way |
| 00:21.34 | BillyZane | it loaded |
| 00:21.36 | BillyZane | holy chit |
| 00:21.41 | oldlaptop | yay :) |
| 00:21.56 | BillyZane | thanks :D |
| 00:21.59 | BillyZane | i <3 u |
| 00:22.25 | BillyZane | it seems to crap out when i switch back and forth, but that's ok |
| 00:22.32 | oldlaptop | uh oh |
| 00:22.38 | oldlaptop | it shouldn't do that |
| 00:22.43 | BillyZane | hmm |
| 00:23.04 | oldlaptop | (though KDE should *not* end up on the same console you used to start it) |
| 00:23.30 | oldlaptop | probably on <whatever your other X console is> +1 |
| 00:24.13 | BillyZane | oh i see |
| 00:24.46 | BillyZane | so i'll try to switch to another one |
| 00:25.03 | oldlaptop | what exactly does it do when you try to switch VTs? |
| 00:25.43 | BillyZane | when i switch back, it goes in appears to be in shell with the following msg |
| 00:25.53 | BillyZane | it says segmentation fault all over the place |
| 00:26.17 | BillyZane | i can't copy and paste it so it takes me awhile to write it |
| 00:26.21 | oldlaptop | that is bad |
| 00:26.45 | BillyZane | segmentation fault at address 0x0 |
| 00:26.47 | BillyZane | is one of them |
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| 00:26.58 | oldlaptop | (switch back to what? the VT you started KDE from?) |
| 00:27.00 | BillyZane | it said backtrace and it gave some long hexadecimal codes |
| 00:27.11 | BillyZane | i can start KDE fine, and it runs great |
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| 00:27.34 | BillyZane | but when i switch back to my original desktop and then switch back, it's back in shell with the segfault errors |
| 00:27.56 | oldlaptop | switch back to what?! |
| 00:28.01 | BillyZane | sorry |
| 00:28.06 | BillyZane | i'm in F7 right now |
| 00:28.12 | BillyZane | when i press F2, i start KDE |
| 00:28.32 | BillyZane | when i go back to F7, i can talk to you right now |
| 00:28.32 | oldlaptop | then KDE is probably in F8 |
| 00:28.40 | BillyZane | hmmmm ok, i'll try that |
| 00:29.09 | BillyZane | lol, you're right it is |
| 00:29.38 | oldlaptop | F2 is server log still, then |
| 00:30.16 | BillyZane | yes it is |
| 00:30.19 | oldlaptop | still odd that something would segfault and not cause any obvious symptoms |
| 00:30.55 | BillyZane | it might be the USB drive i have, in KDE it was trying to read it and a terminal was popping up with errors |
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| 00:35.22 | BillyZane | thanks a lot |
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| 01:49.55 | quinso1 | Hello. How can I remove notifications like this http://i.imgur.com/THkMRaI.png that appear whenever I open a link from some application other than firefox? |
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| 01:59.32 | teprrr | quinso1, you want to remove them completely? or just file transfers? |
| 01:59.46 | teprrr | quinso1, anyway, right click on the notification widget in the panel and open the settings |
| 02:01.25 | quinso1 | teprrr: I don't want those notifications to appear when I just open a link. I probably want to keep file transfer notifications. |
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| 02:05.28 | quinso1 | Btw this doesn't happen with all links - just some of them. |
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| 02:08.11 | teprrr | quinso1, hmm, perhaps that happens because the server is too slow to respond |
| 02:08.20 | teprrr | though I have unfortunately no idea how to change it |
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| 03:20.47 | mbnoimi | I'm unable to login to Amarok forum I tried to recover my account but it says "The specified username or password is incorrect." I tried register but I get "Email address "xxxxx" has already been taken"!!! |
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| 03:25.19 | jackle | :(,sad |
| 03:26.41 | Jucato | mbnoimi: perhaps you can ask in #amarok for assistance |
| 03:27.42 | mbnoimi | Jucato: But Amarok forum hosted in https://forum.kde.org/ |
| 03:28.08 | Jucato | oh? thought they had their own. so basically you can't log into KDE forums? |
| 03:30.50 | mbnoimi | Jucato: yes |
| 03:31.19 | mbnoimi | Jucato: I think it related to new stupid KDE identity system |
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| 04:54.08 | Strav | He. Small question: I'm interested to contribute to the Solid project (actually fix it's handling of autofs mounted locations), what would be the best way setup an environment for this? I tried using kdesrc-build for this purpose but it yielded errors just to get the source of many packages so I ain't sure I should really fiddle with it. Anyhow, what is the preferred way to get started with coding on KDE. (before any condescending soul |
| 04:54.08 | Strav | cares to ask: sure I know my way around QT and c++) |
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| 04:56.43 | joh6nn | Strav: probably better off asking in one of the dev channels. sadly, i am not qualified to tell you which one to ask in |
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| 04:57.17 | joh6nn | my first inclination would be to google "solid kde irc" or something similar, though, and see if there's a dedicated channel for it |
| 04:57.56 | Strav | joh6nn: yes, the Solid project do have a channel but I was also interested into getting a more general setup. |
| 04:58.10 | Strav | joh6nn: just saw there was a #kde-dev chan, thanks :) |
| 04:58.21 | joh6nn | np. and good luck :) |
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| 05:37.39 | ShalokShalom | Right Click on the Desktop |
| 05:37.58 | ShalokShalom | Siecje: |
| 05:40.55 | Siecje | thanks |
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| 06:45.01 | SteamOSKDE | does anyone know what package lists I would need to install KDE on debian wheezy? |
| 06:45.15 | thiago | ask in #debian or #debian-kde |
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| 07:58.39 | cortez | how can i make my keyboard shortcut for kicker JUST the meta key (like the Start Screen on Windows)? |
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| 07:59.05 | cortez | i'm guessing some config file hack, because the GUI doesn't seem to allow it...? |
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| 08:03.18 | cousin_luigi | cortez: Ask sho if you see him around. I asked the same questiont the other day and I think he mentioned the possibility of altering some configuration files. |
| 08:03.28 | cousin_luigi | cortez: That, or run something like xbindkeys. |
| 08:03.59 | cortez | cousin_luigi: okay, thanks |
| 08:04.49 | cousin_luigi | or xdotool even |
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| 08:06.34 | cortez | i think i'll just ask sho as hacking a config file is the most native/elegant solution i think |
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| 08:27.26 | ovidius2 | cortez: install ksuperkey. does the job |
| 08:28.41 | cortez | ovidius2: thanks |
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| 08:51.53 | cousin_luigi | ksuperkey? Interesting. |
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| 09:53.26 | Mamarok | woodoo: click on the extreme right of the panel, add widgets, and add it back |
| 09:55.11 | James0r | there a way to get the task bar to open all grouped windows on left-click? |
| 09:55.29 | James0r | all of the same application i mean |
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| 09:56.21 | woodoo | Mamarok: it doesn't appear in search, would i be installing from local file or no? |
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| 09:56.58 | woodoo | *doesn't appear in search when i click add widget, then search |
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| 09:58.44 | woodoo | ok ty Mamarok, i'm silly, using lancelot now |
| 09:58.52 | woodoo | +1 internets to you, sir |
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| 11:22.02 | cousin_luigi | bootkiller: Didn't work:| |
| 11:22.11 | cousin_luigi | valorie: You may want to update your post. |
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| 15:06.51 | Walex | shal3r: yes. |
| 15:07.16 | Walex | shal3r: yes but not exactly like you want. |
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| 15:07.36 | Walex | shal3r: yes but not exactly like you want because it does not make sense. |
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| 15:49.12 | shal3r | Walex, can you give more info about that? |
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| 16:37.28 | Lady_Aleena | In Dolphin, is there a way to expand all folders and subfolders? |
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| 17:28.47 | joh6nn | Lady_Aleena: can you elaborate? |
| 17:29.07 | joh6nn | are you looking for a view mode, or a hotkey? or something else entirely? |
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| 17:31.52 | Lady_Aleena | When I navigate to a directory, by all of the subdirectories there are arrows I can click to show the contents of the subdirectories. I was wondering if there were a way to show everything without having to click all of those arrows. |
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| 17:33.58 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: in which program? |
| 17:34.09 | Lady_Aleena | Dolphin |
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| 17:36.05 | Lady_Aleena | I don't see a "show all" or "expand all" command anywhere. |
| 17:37.23 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: I suspect that's not possible. |
| 17:39.15 | Lady_Aleena | darn... |
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| 17:56.46 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, does anyone know where Amarok gets it's album art images? |
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| 18:25.27 | ozone89 | hello |
| 18:26.20 | ozone89 | is there a way to reset akonadi config without losing stuff like mail? |
| 18:27.39 | ozone89 | it's giving me the infamous d-bus error |
| 18:28.07 | ozone89 | i'm on arch, kde 4.12 |
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| 18:36.59 | ozone89 | http://www.dorkly.com/picture/52793/the-value-of-princess-peachs-castle-infographic#null |
| 18:37.01 | ozone89 | lol |
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| 18:37.07 | ozone89 | ops, sorry, wrong chan |
| 18:37.15 | ChemBro | lol |
| 18:38.10 | fairc | when I change the color sheme in one activity, it isn't supposed to change only in this application? |
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| 18:48.52 | fairc | err, I mean activity! |
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| 18:49.30 | fairc | ie> when I change the color sheme in one activity, it isn't supposed to change only in this activity? |
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| 18:53.33 | rdieter | fairc: I believe thats a global setting |
| 18:54.30 | fairc | :(, but when I change a panel, this is only activity wide then? |
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| 18:54.59 | ozone89 | actually, panels are plasmoids |
| 18:55.04 | rdieter | plasma applets configs are indeed only for that particular applet |
| 18:55.19 | rdieter | and applets are per activity, yes |
| 18:56.13 | fairc | Ok, but still it would make sense to set the color per activity |
| 18:56.40 | fairc | someone know if this is planned for the oncoming kf5 p2? |
| 18:58.53 | moviuro | fairc: it is even planned color scheme per open window |
| 18:59.10 | moviuro | (which BTW is simply awesome) |
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| 19:14.24 | lineinthesand | Where are the settings I set via the networkmanager applet stored? |
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| 19:18.21 | Sho_ | lineinthesand: It's curious to say: I have not the faintest idea |
| 19:18.26 | Sho_ | That's how many levels that system has |
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| 19:23.12 | lineinthesand | Ah, just found out: ~/.kde4/share/apps/networkmanagement/connections |
| 19:23.22 | lineinthesand | Interesting. |
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| 19:28.50 | friese | lineinthesand: either there or (for global ones) in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ |
| 19:30.35 | lineinthesand | friese, thanks! |
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| 20:26.02 | ozone89 | how do i get rid of the dbus error on akonadi? i'm using 4.12 on arch |
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| 20:31.37 | rdieter | ozone89: "the dbus error" isnt very descriptive |
| 20:31.50 | ozone89 | hang on |
| 20:32.16 | ShalokShalom | dbus error? |
| 20:33.13 | ozone89 | it says the akonadi control process and its the server are not registered to DBus |
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| 20:33.30 | ozone89 | as well as the nepomouk search service |
| 20:33.46 | rdieter | posting the full output from: akonadictl restart, akonadi start , or kcmshell4 akonadi -> akonadi server configuration -> click test button |
| 20:33.55 | ozone89 | it also says it can't find the resources agents |
| 20:33.58 | rdieter | could help |
| 20:34.03 | ozone89 | ok, gimme a sec |
| 20:34.38 | rdieter | sounds like things may be botched pretty bad at this point, may be worth considering reseting it all, and start over |
| 20:34.47 | rdieter | but lets see the test output first |
| 20:34.55 | ozone89 | http://www.pasteall.org/48579 |
| 20:35.06 | ozone89 | from akonadi start |
| 20:35.17 | ozone89 | restart claims it's already running |
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| 20:36.08 | rdieter | I'd poke your distro first |
| 20:36.23 | ozone89 | you mean the chan? |
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| 20:36.46 | rdieter | whatever the usual way to get support from your distro |
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| 20:36.58 | ozone89 | kk |
| 20:40.23 | ozone89 | uhmmm... a pkill akonadi* and restarting it succeded |
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| 20:42.48 | zoldyck | ozone89: do you use nvidia driver? |
| 20:42.58 | zoldyck | like 331.20 |
| 20:42.59 | ozone89 | yes, why? |
| 20:43.18 | zoldyck | I'll just give you a bug url )) |
| 20:43.29 | ozone89 | hold on! don't you mean... |
| 20:43.32 | Axtroz | Ah. Nvidia's binary screwup again :))) |
| 20:43.36 | zoldyck | https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487548 |
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| 20:44.15 | ozone89 | for $deity sake! why the FSCK should a video driver screu up with a service?! |
| 20:44.34 | Axtroz | ozone89, it's masking the OS signals, not just services. |
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| 20:44.48 | ozone89 | *headdesk* |
| 20:44.54 | zoldyck | the kernel module sets some bit masks incorrectly |
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| 20:46.17 | Axtroz | Yeah. Nvidia devs claim that it's already fixed in a pending release, but that's yet to be seen. :/ |
| 20:47.06 | ozone89 | *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* |
| 20:47.28 | ozone89 | that expalains this output: (pasting) |
| 20:47.59 | ozone89 | http://www.pasteall.org/48580 |
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| 20:48.08 | ozone89 | it's looking in /opt/cuda |
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| 20:52.10 | ozone89 | anyway, sent a PSA to my LUG |
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| 20:55.57 | MercX | greetings, having an issue with KDE showing a black screen after logging in from KDM. (Arch) I tried to erase /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER and that as not helped. Anyone have any suggestions what to try next? |
| 20:56.00 | ozone89 | funny thing is, I read "pest and horns" (loose it2en) about AMD drivers! |
| 20:56.28 | ozone89 | MercX, gpu/driver? |
| 20:56.50 | ozone89 | also, try on #archlinux |
| 20:59.37 | cb400f | or try the failsafe session from kdm |
| 21:00.06 | MercX | ati radeon 4000something/catalyst drive from vi0l0 |
| 21:00.14 | cb400f | which will tell you if the issue is desktop effects/gfxdriver related, which of course most likely it is |
| 21:00.29 | cb400f | another possibility is plasma-desktop not starting |
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| 21:01.03 | cb400f | maybe try a new user, to see if your settings are messed up, or your installation |
| 21:02.01 | MercX | let me try to failsafe, brb |
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