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01:15.03 | frib | i've just installed gentoo linux with a kde profile but kde didn't start automatically at boot. how can I start it? |
01:15.20 | thiago | please ask in #gentoo |
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01:15.34 | frib | i did they don't answer |
01:15.41 | thiago | wait a little more |
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01:25.35 | Kelsar | frib: follow https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE and you should be fine |
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06:35.46 | Poenikatu | Which program runs the KDE task bar at the bottom of the screen? |
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06:38.25 | valorie | Poenikatu: the task bar is a plasma widget |
06:38.54 | valorie | so that would be plasma-desktop |
06:39.38 | Poenikatu | What about the panel itself? |
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06:42.17 | Poenikatu | I have two keyboard layout widgets. I'd like to delete one. How do I do that? |
06:42.35 | qurk | Poenikatu, I think it's plasma-desktop |
06:43.07 | Poenikatu | Thanks. I'll look for that in my ~/.kde hierarchy |
06:43.33 | qurk | that's what I type when the taskbar disapears |
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06:51.34 | Poenikatu | Every so often, a narrow window appears and a `temperature-guage' grows until a widget says 100%. Is that nepomuk? |
06:54.46 | Poenikatu | Am logging out and in again. So bye bye for the moment |
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07:44.38 | cortez | is kubuntu still considered an inferior kde distro, or are those days behind it? |
07:45.03 | valorie | tastes differ, cortez |
07:45.08 | valorie | I love kubuntu |
07:46.44 | cortez | valorie: it used to be seriously flakey back in the 3.x days |
07:46.53 | valorie | yes |
07:47.35 | valorie | lots of experience since then |
07:47.41 | cousin_luigi | cortez: I think the problem is more with ubuntu in general than its various versions. |
07:48.01 | cousin_luigi | cortez: But kde on kubuntu is maintained by community, I believe. |
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07:48.10 | valorie | yup |
07:48.30 | cortez | i'm just trying to figure out from the vmware guys if kubuntu counts as ubuntu, as they don't mention it explicitly |
07:48.33 | cortez | ie. for formal support |
07:48.36 | valorie | always has been, although Canonical used to pay for some staff |
07:48.42 | cortez | one guy apparently |
07:49.06 | valorie | depending on how you counted it, 1 - 1.5 |
07:49.47 | valorie | Blue Systems has added a lot of hours to that, which is lovely |
07:53.09 | cousin_luigi | Ubuntu is diverging too much from mainstream, are you sure you want to deal with that? |
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07:53.58 | valorie | cousin_luigi: we are preparing as best we can for the future, but who knows for sure what that future will be? |
07:54.19 | cortez | cousin_luigi: i'm just trying to get an officially supported distro for vmware workstation |
07:54.33 | valorie | they say they have plans, but so far we haven't seen any major problems |
07:54.38 | cortez | cousin_luigi: ubuntu 13.10 is the newest supported, otherwise it's basically centos or an old opensuse |
07:54.51 | cortez | i'm currently running arch |
07:54.52 | cousin_luigi | What's wrong with centos? |
07:54.55 | cousin_luigi | Too stale? |
07:55.11 | valorie | what exactly do you mean "officially supported"? |
07:55.24 | cortez | cousin_luigi: yeah, a bit old for a desktop for my tastes in terms of 3rd party support for stuff. i actually really like centos as a desktop all else equal. |
07:55.34 | valorie | there is professional commercial support available |
07:55.38 | cortez | valorie: meaning officially supported by vmware |
07:55.44 | valorie | ah |
07:55.44 | cortez | valorie: ie. they've tested it |
07:56.14 | cortez | valorie: http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php |
07:56.34 | cortez | valorie: select "Host OS" from the "What are you looking for" combo box... |
07:57.08 | cousin_luigi | cortez: I suppose you'll have to decide if you would waste more time by debugging problems on an unofficial platform or by using old software |
07:57.42 | cousin_luigi | cortez: Personally I would find either of that preferable to using Unity. |
07:58.23 | cousin_luigi | Uhm, now I understand why you'd want to use kubuntu, though. |
07:59.13 | valorie | have you given a thought to Madriva? |
07:59.30 | valorie | I know it's a small team, but they focus on quality |
07:59.42 | valorie | and it's on your list there |
07:59.44 | cousin_luigi | Is it still maintained independently of Mageia? |
08:00.02 | valorie | not sure, they don't seem to hang out much here |
08:00.32 | cortez | valorie: i'm not a fan of the organisational structure behind mandriva |
08:00.41 | cortez | valorie: and i don't really care for the distro that much, either |
08:00.55 | cortez | if mageia is anything to go by |
08:01.12 | cortez | cousin_luigi: i actually don't mind unity... it's the spyware that bugs me |
08:01.18 | cortez | and the bugs in general |
08:01.20 | cortez | (of ubuntu) |
08:01.31 | valorie | last I used it, it was still Mandrake, so I'm no expert |
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08:01.55 | valorie | the spyware can be turned off |
08:01.58 | cortez | i know |
08:02.09 | cortez | but the fact that it exists and is opt-out turns me off |
08:02.13 | cortez | kills trust |
08:02.21 | valorie | I agree, and that was disappointing |
08:02.31 | valorie | kubuntu has none of that, though |
08:02.34 | cortez | yeah |
08:02.36 | cortez | i know :) |
08:03.05 | valorie | distro choice is difficult, with so many options to consider |
08:03.19 | apb1963 | I'm getting an error from kwin... screenshot here: http://snag.gy/xfJKN.jpg kubuntu 12.04.3 .... |
08:03.37 | cousin_luigi | valorie: I've recently switched from mint to suse |
08:03.47 | cortez | good move |
08:03.50 | valorie | hilarious to see SCO on that list |
08:03.54 | valorie | good lord |
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08:04.54 | cousin_luigi | yeah, I wonder what product they support on it. |
08:06.03 | valorie | I thought even the bones of that company had been consumed by lawyer's fees |
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08:07.57 | cousin_luigi | Before groklaw shut down for good, they had made a revenant-esque move. |
08:08.07 | cousin_luigi | We haven't seen the last of them, I fear. |
08:08.26 | valorie | :( |
08:08.48 | valorie | I've talked to a couple of people who worked for or with them before they went bad |
08:09.05 | valorie | sucks to see a good company go all zombie |
08:09.56 | cousin_luigi | Well, their business model was pretty much dead, so shysters took over. |
08:12.03 | valorie | lots of companies have remade themselves, some over and over again |
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08:51.26 | cjae | how do I make kmix go in intervals of 5% instead of 15% |
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08:52.22 | bentgf | hi, does anyone know how to turn off sub-pixel rendering in KDE? |
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08:52.37 | bentgf | sub-pixel hinting i mean |
08:53.57 | valorie | cjae: see the last comment here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313579 |
08:55.03 | valorie | bentgf: a quick google finds a solution for fedora |
08:55.09 | valorie | what distro are you using? |
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08:55.57 | bentgf | i installed infinality and now my font in kde looks horible. it looks perfect when i run an external window manager from .xsession |
08:56.05 | bentgf | oh, is it distro specific? i am using openSUSE 13.1 |
08:56.43 | cjae | valorie: thanks |
08:56.47 | valorie | not sure, I was just educating myself |
08:57.13 | valorie | http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/alternative-distributions-based-opensuse/tumbleweed/492555-kde-font-sub-pixel-rendering.html |
08:57.22 | valorie | seems it is more than one distro |
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09:02.47 | bentgf | i cant seem to find an option to disable sub pixel hinting in either openSUSE's settings or KDE's settings. Maybe it is a gtk or qt problem because it seems that my fonts only look bad in emacs |
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09:04.22 | valorie | those forum threads were no help? |
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09:04.37 | valorie | boo |
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09:09.12 | skramer_ | bentgf: I´m on Kubuntu, sub-pixel hinting is in System Settings -> Application Apperance -> Fonts. Then click on the button which is marked in this pic https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uzPQCHwHomg/TYpYHrfo68I/AAAAAAAAAEc/Ihqza4u2Ygk/s1600/blog-FONTS1.png and you can set up KDE´s subpixel-hinting |
09:09.51 | skramer_ | bentgf: Anyway, I´m not really sure if this also has effect on Emacs or GTK-Apps... |
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09:12.17 | bentgf | it worked, thanks! i had it set to system settings instead of enabled so configure was ghosted |
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09:29.46 | cortez | well, i'm opting for ubuntu proper for now. may konqui have mercy on my soul. |
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09:30.41 | cortez | if/when that crashes and burns, i'll try kubuntu |
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09:38.58 | AndrzejL | good morning lemmings :) |
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09:47.07 | cortez | not sure if trolling or affectionate |
09:47.25 | AndrzejL | so dont do it ;) |
09:47.34 | cortez | AndrzejL: i meant you |
09:47.41 | AndrzejL | I know You did |
09:47.55 | AndrzejL | and I just said hello in the same way I always do here |
09:48.06 | AndrzejL | so far You are first who accused me of trolling |
09:48.07 | cortez | what shouldn't i do? |
09:48.13 | cortez | i didn't accuse you of anything |
09:48.21 | AndrzejL | right :) |
09:48.31 | cortez | i'm literally not sure |
09:48.31 | AndrzejL | the rest just had hello back :) |
09:48.41 | AndrzejL | said* ;) |
09:48.53 | cortez | anyhow, i'm off to reinstall |
09:48.56 | AndrzejL | if they cared enough to reply at all |
09:49.01 | AndrzejL | ah good luck |
09:49.09 | AndrzejL | choose wisely grasshopper :D |
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09:51.39 | the_madman | greetings maggots |
09:51.44 | the_madman | runs away |
09:52.16 | the_madman | Oh, he left. That's not nearly as fun. |
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09:57.07 | AndrzejL | welcome to the madhouse the_madman ;) |
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09:57.44 | AndrzejL | sitback and relax. we are getting your room ready and your new jacket is being pressed as we speak ;) |
09:58.18 | AndrzejL | its nice and pink with blue flowers ;) |
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10:38.10 | the_madman | I want a purple jacket with pink and blue flowers now |
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10:50.34 | fire | from where does the konsole takes it configuration file ? from .Xresources ? |
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11:20.04 | AndrzejL | the_madman: sorry for the delay in processing your order... Your jacket is ready ;) |
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11:28.37 | cjae | anyone know why my semantic desktop is on pause? not indexing? http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=w89navei30zf4g8009u8.png http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=ztim8twjsc1a8o3mfm37.png |
11:30.54 | cjae | brb |
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12:06.03 | AL13N | i have an annoying problem... if i switch between user sessions, the window where you choose the user keeps re-appearing |
12:06.42 | AL13N | this means that if session is locked, and you click switch user, choose the user; then the switch user window is still there... so you think it failed and do it again |
12:06.56 | AL13N | while you have to cancel that window and then you notice you're in the second user locked session |
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12:13.41 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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12:14.17 | AndrzejL | Hi BluesKaj sorry to hear that the script does not works for you |
12:18.41 | BluesKaj | AndrzejL, not a problem, I figured out a workable method for connecting to the TV with the LVDS1 (the laptop screen) and the HDMI , thie laptop is merely for temporary backup if the our desktop pc/media server fails |
12:19.03 | AndrzejL | ah thats ok |
12:19.23 | AndrzejL | I dont have any desktops ;) I have 7 or 8 laptops tho ;) |
12:19.44 | AndrzejL | Old / free or cheap laptops but all working fine |
12:20.43 | BluesKaj | this desktop is almost 6 yrs old so I have to plan for the future |
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12:33.04 | cjae | does my computer have to be idle for desktop search to start |
12:33.24 | cjae | 4.11.3 |
12:33.52 | ompaul | cjae: no, but it is better for indexing which iirc is when that starts |
12:34.00 | ompaul | obviously logged in doing nothing |
12:34.29 | cjae | well it is always idle, fresh install |
12:34.43 | cjae | the indexer I mean |
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12:35.46 | cjae | and there is many files on here, the find files also has no matches but using locate or fnd via cli does |
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12:41.39 | ebischoff | hello people, and happy new year |
12:42.33 | ebischoff | Did extragear move to git ? The docs say otherwise. My svn checkout fails. Or were the directories simply renamed ? |
12:42.33 | ompaul | cjae: updatedb files a db for for locate, find on its own no options is a good place to start |
12:44.14 | ebischoff | I attempted : svn co svn+ssh://bischoff@svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/keurocalc |
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12:44.45 | ebischoff | Error message is "unable to find a repository at URL ..." |
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12:45.17 | ompaul | cjae: the desktop index needs to run, dependind on what you run your kde may impact the config it all depends on how strigi-utils and friends are installed |
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12:46.21 | ebischoff | Wait, I am on the wrong channel, sorry |
12:47.19 | ompaul | ebischoff: but I can't wait ... |
12:47.36 | ebischoff | lol |
12:47.55 | ebischoff | sorry, that was for kde-devel. Goodbye. |
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12:56.58 | cjae | ompaul: thought strigi was no more |
12:57.14 | ompaul | cjae: I found it in my repos |
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12:57.35 | ompaul | cjae: running 4.11.3 |
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12:57.41 | cjae | yes |
13:00.57 | cjae | maybe it runs on a cronjob time? |
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13:05.56 | cousin_luigi | Where else (besides in Kleopatra) should I add a CAcert in order to have KOrganizer use it? |
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13:30.56 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: by "use it", you mean to be able to fetch from https urls using that CA? (or other?) |
13:31.19 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: probably better to simply add it to your openssl trusted CA bundle |
13:32.42 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: I mean, having korganizer not complain about certificates signed by an unknown authority |
13:33.13 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: I'm not sure about the latter, does it mean I should copy it into /etc/ssl/certs ? |
13:33.41 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: yes, something like that. depends on how you distro has openssl setup |
13:34.11 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: I was hoping for a cleaner solution, but I guess it'll have to do |
13:34.12 | cousin_luigi | thanks |
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13:34.54 | rdieter | the cleaner solution would be for cacert to go the final mile and get their CA imported into trusted bundles, so you wouldn't have to import it |
13:35.11 | rdieter | (but they've not done that yet, for various reasons) |
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13:41.51 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: what's cacert? |
13:42.25 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: you're the one that mentioned CAcert in your original question |
13:42.44 | rdieter | or by CAcert, you did not mean cacert.org ? |
13:43.22 | rdieter | I guess you did say *a* cacert, so my bad for misinterpretting the question |
13:43.26 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: no, I mean the certification authority I created myself |
13:43.32 | cousin_luigi | for internal use |
13:43.32 | rdieter | ok :) |
13:44.15 | rdieter | but the answer/recommendation is still valid |
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13:45.46 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: I will, but I still wonder why korganizer can't see I added the CAcert to Kleopatra |
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13:50.01 | rdieter | kleopatra is only for signed emails (afaik) |
13:50.06 | cousin_luigi | oh |
13:50.11 | cousin_luigi | had no idea |
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13:52.15 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: in short, its an interface to gpg |
13:53.04 | rdieter | (which begs the question how/why does kleopatra and kgpg overlap?) |
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13:53.55 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: your guess is good as mine:| |
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14:11.13 | zipper | Does anyone else have the issue where they get a busy mouse before KDM starts? on arch maybe? |
14:11.18 | zipper | I am told that it must be an issue with my KDM installation. |
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14:18.00 | Leoneof | i'm using kde 4.11.3, i'm trying to run kate/dolphin and any other kde apps, it takes 5-10 sec to display, but gtk and Qt apps are very fast, wht to do? |
14:20.06 | ompaul | Leoneof: my machine took about 3 seconds to start emacs24 under 4.11.3 so I'd suggest this thing is down to hardware |
14:21.05 | Leoneof | ompaul: maybe slow hard disk? |
14:21.36 | ompaul | Leoneof: if you are running debian I suggest you ask in #debian-next on oftc where sid / testing will be discussed at length, and that is one possible thing, if you are running a 5400 disk |
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14:21.56 | Leoneof | Okay. |
14:22.16 | rdieter | has old 5+ year old laptop, kate starts in ~1 second |
14:22.27 | Leoneof | grrrrr |
14:22.29 | rdieter | unless we're talking really old hardware here |
14:22.57 | rdieter | I would first suspect either user/config problem or distro issue |
14:23.08 | rdieter | the former, say, if any network share/mounts are involved |
14:23.16 | ompaul | Leoneof: your faux anger is really petty and unhelpful to you and others, mostly you can't change reality with it. |
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14:23.25 | Leoneof | rdieter: RAM=2Gb, CPU=2GHz dual core, enough? |
14:23.33 | rdieter | yes, imo |
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14:23.38 | ompaul | you can double that ram |
14:23.55 | Leoneof | ompaul: calm down, what faux anger, and what's unhelpful, say something |
14:23.59 | rdieter | Leoneof: is the machine swapping when this happens? |
14:24.06 | ompaul | grrrrrring |
14:24.07 | Leoneof | rdieter: yes |
14:24.20 | rdieter | ok, then it's lack of memory |
14:24.31 | ompaul | you need more ram, your disk should be less than 70% full when it hits 80% you get a performance hit |
14:24.34 | rdieter | has 3-4 gb here |
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14:26.01 | Leoneof | ok, thanks :) |
14:28.05 | AL13N | i've been looking at https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/v4.10.5/entry/ksmserver/screenlocker/greeter/sessions.cpp#L116 |
14:28.36 | AL13N | when i switch to another session from the screenlocker, the actual window doesn't close, which means if you get back the session window is still open |
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14:37.32 | cousin_luigi | How do I change the icon for a service in /usr/share/kde4/services ? I mean, is the icon field just a filename or a mime reference of sorts? |
14:37.58 | thiago | cousin_luigi: it's a file name, but it can just be an icon name that is searched in the icon theme dirs |
14:38.08 | cousin_luigi | ok |
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14:39.07 | cousin_luigi | I'll see what happens, thanks |
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17:19.21 | cousin_luigi | What would be the right place to petition for a new feature? |
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17:20.08 | cb400f | depends.. the workspace part of kde 4 is feature frozen |
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17:20.42 | cb400f | dunno if you can request features for kde5 on bugzilla, not knowing which features it will actually have |
17:21.52 | cousin_luigi | cb400f: I'm not sure how minor it is, but I'd love to be able to use the mousewheel in the shortcuts. |
17:22.25 | cb400f | for that I think you would need to have support in Qt |
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17:23.04 | cb400f | would be great if Qt would also support single key-shortcuts, so we could be spared all the people whining about "windows key to open menu" :-) |
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17:28.12 | cousin_luigi | cb400f: uhm, well I'd use it with a modifier, of course |
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17:28.47 | cousin_luigi | cb400f: Should I bring this up with QT people then? |
17:29.34 | cb400f | or some expert who's able to say for sure if it's technically feasible to implement in KDE directly or not |
17:30.03 | cb400f | but if the shortcuts you want to create are workspace related, you won't see any new features until kde5 anywho |
17:30.12 | cousin_luigi | cb400f: #kde-devel? |
17:30.24 | svuorela | how is mousewheel used in short cuts ? |
17:30.31 | svuorela | I_don't think I get the concept |
17:30.35 | cousin_luigi | svuorela: It's nmot, that's the point |
17:31.06 | cousin_luigi | svuorela: for example I'd like to be able to configure alt+mousewheel to zoom in/out |
17:31.11 | cb400f | cousin_luigi: you mean "middleclick"? or you actually mean the wheel/scroll function? |
17:31.19 | cousin_luigi | cb400f: the latter |
17:31.45 | cousin_luigi | right now I've had to resort to some horrid hack using xbindkeys |
17:31.50 | cousin_luigi | and qdbus |
17:32.05 | svuorela | cousin_luigi: confusing - crtl + scrollwheel seems to be the convention. |
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17:33.10 | cousin_luigi | svuorela: ctrl+scrollwheel magnifies text |
17:33.20 | cousin_luigi | there would be a collision |
17:34.11 | cousin_luigi | cb400f: regarding QT, ISTR Compiz was based on it and this particular combination worked. Does that mean anything? |
17:34.50 | cb400f | Compiz was not based on Qt.. if so it wouldn't have been so horrible :-) |
17:35.17 | cousin_luigi | ok:) |
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17:37.04 | cousin_luigi | And since we're on topic, how can I disable raising the corresponding window when scrolling the mousewheel while on the task manager? |
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17:45.43 | lakitu | what's a good img uploading extension for say dolphin? |
17:45.43 | lakitu | or something like that? |
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17:47.29 | TazmainianDevil | hi all, does anyone know how to fix the html login screen ? If i dont login as it comes up the display doesnt update, I can click on my username but I cant see the login box to type my password. If the box was there I cant see a password being typed. Anyone know how to fix this > |
17:47.30 | gcibot | TazmainianDevil, hey! |
17:47.36 | TazmainianDevil | hi gcibot |
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18:18.18 | donos | hi,im using kde 4.10.5, and i would like to get a copy file identical to the original whith the ~ final extension when i save it or i change its date |
18:18.46 | donos | but i dont know how to do it |
18:19.33 | donos | in that manner i know when i change a file from a folder |
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18:21.09 | joh6nn | donos: when you save it in which app? |
18:21.22 | joh6nn | that's usually a per-app preference, not everything supports that behavior |
18:23.09 | donos | using konqueror or dolphin for example |
18:23.09 | donos | i remember when i save a text file, it appears a copy |
18:23.55 | joh6nn | yeah, that behavior is specific to Kate, as far as i know |
18:24.18 | joh6nn | i don't believe there's anyway to enable it in konqueror or dolphin, except maybe by writing a plugin of some kind |
18:24.40 | donos | um,kate o krite i normally use |
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18:25.43 | joh6nn | either way, that behavior is not included in all apps |
18:26.02 | joh6nn | iirc, kate and kwrite share a lot of code, so it should work in both of them |
18:26.15 | joh6nn | but it isn't present in konqueror or dolphin |
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18:26.54 | donos | but if you do a touch to a file....i think the situation is the same |
18:27.01 | donos | im not sure |
18:27.19 | joh6nn | as far as i know, it's not the same |
18:27.58 | donos | okey,pardon for my poor english,im going to investigate it |
18:28.17 | donos | thank you very much |
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18:32.05 | donos | for example,now when i save a file known as bdd.c ,it appears me a rare copy bdd.cUD3131.new...before the name was bdd.c~, and i dont know how to change it |
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19:06.59 | feep | like a container |
19:07.09 | feep | this would really save me a lot of alt-tabbing |
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19:07.41 | feep | like an mdi wrapper |
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20:13.14 | lalala_oops | when i try ro open kate txt editor i get ' a kde text-editor component could not be found.please check your kde installation' how to fix this? |
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20:31.40 | chaoszero | Hello Everyone i need a little help i have 2 displays and 1 panel on each display. I have it set up so that only applications and windows on each monitor show in that task bar. But here is what i need help with All maximized apps or windows show on both task bars how would i go about fixing that its almost perfect but i cant figure that part out. Thank you |
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21:04.29 | Okitain | Hi guys. |
21:04.39 | Okitain | Anyone uses kio-mtp? |
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21:46.34 | beevvy | What is the proper mailing list (or other place) for sending suggestions regarding KDE Review Board? |
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21:47.46 | beevvy | I hoped for kde-infra or something like that but couldn't find |
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21:57.15 | beevvy | Okay... I'll probably just send it to kde-www & kde-devel |
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22:06.10 | cb400f | beevvy: I'd guess the admin team, but... |
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23:08.43 | ph88 | what's a shortcut icon launcher thingy called in KDE ? |
23:08.49 | ph88 | in gnome they are called desktop launcher |
23:08.58 | ph88 | to start program from GUI |
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23:40.42 | hololeap | how do you get a video file to play as a desktop background in KDE 4.12 |
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