| 00:00.28 | Guest58439 | shoul i just stick with a controlled admin account? |
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| 00:08.09 | quup | Can I prevent screen from dimming when any window is in fullscreen mode? (I used to just bring up power management and disable it there temporarily, but for some reason it takes several minutes for the power management window to appear now) |
| 00:08.40 | quup | The Alt+F2 Energy Saving thing is what's slow |
| 00:11.16 | quup | btw, what's the command to launch something like energy saving from commandline, I'm hoping to see some error I can google and fix |
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| 00:34.54 | jbwiv | hi guys.I just installed kubuntu-desktop over the normal ubuntu install. everything seems to work ok, but certain menus appear very much like they're rendered with gtk. for example, when I right click an applications icon in the app switcher in the panel, it's rendered oddly. any idea why this would be? Example:http://i.imgur.com/ki0k0Ku.png |
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| 00:37.59 | Sho_ | jbwiv: My guess would be that your packages somehow don't match ABI-wise |
| 00:38.08 | Sho_ | and it refuses to load the Oxygen style plugin |
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| 00:46.38 | jbwiv | Sho_: would i be able to tell if that was so in the logs somewhere? |
| 00:46.42 | jbwiv | everything else looks normal |
| 00:47.01 | jbwiv | for example, I'm typing this in xchat, and it looks very normal-ish kde |
| 00:50.58 | Sho_ | jbwiv: Not quite the same because XChat isn't a Qt/KDE app and only looks like that by virtue of you having a GTK+ theme installed that implements the same rendering as the Qt version of Oxygen |
| 00:51.09 | Sho_ | more interesting would be how KDE's IRC client looks .) |
| 00:51.56 | jbwiv | Sho_: Quassel? Looks very kde-ish too |
| 00:52.10 | jbwiv | it really seems limited to context menus (so far) |
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| 00:53.27 | Sho_ | jbwiv: No, Konversation |
| 00:53.30 | Sho_ | but Quassel is a Qt app, too |
| 00:54.10 | jbwiv | yeah, Konversation doesn't seem to be installed with kubuntu |
| 00:54.13 | jbwiv | but Quassel is |
| 00:54.27 | jbwiv | and from what I gather you mean, Quassel is as good a test? |
| 00:54.35 | Sho_ | Yup |
| 00:56.25 | jbwiv | Sho_: what, in your opinion, is the most pure KDE experience you can get? I like ubuntu, but might be willing to shift gears to another distro |
| 00:56.31 | jbwiv | perhaps Debian+KDE? |
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| 00:57.24 | Sho_ | jbwiv: Personally I enjoy Fedora - their KDE folks concentrate on workign on the system integration bits upstream and leave the workspace/user experience basically unmodified |
| 00:57.52 | jbwiv | Sho_: interesting. I guess I thought Fedora was more focused on Gnome3 |
| 00:58.43 | Sho_ | jbwiv: Their default desktop CD does indeed ship Gnome, but they also have KDE CDs and ones for other DEs like Xfce and LXDE and so on ... and the KDE spin is release-blocking and KDE folks have been on the engineering and distro boards, etc. |
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| 00:59.15 | Sho_ | And Red Hat does have engineers on the payroll that specifically work on KDE and also double as Fedora devs |
| 00:59.46 | Sho_ | It's undeniably true that Gnome is big in Fedora, but I think it's fair-enough as a community that overall the KDE folks there have no major handicaps in producing a rather nice KDE distro |
| 01:01.01 | jbwiv | Sho_: that's good to know. cool. I'll likely give it a spin. I tried Fedora last year but it was a bit of a trial, given it replaced sysv with systemd and it obviously took away my beloved apt-get. still, I don't like getting too invested in any one distro so it's probably time to give it another shot |
| 01:01.32 | jbwiv | In general in the KDE developer community, is there one distro that most use? |
| 01:01.36 | Sho_ | jbwiv: Yeah, I was on Gentoo from 2002-2009 and then switched to Fedora |
| 01:01.42 | jbwiv | one which is considered the defacto? |
| 01:02.06 | jbwiv | fedora wasn't too much of a shift...I used Red Hat quite a bit from 99 to around 2003. Still, a lot has changed |
| 01:02.37 | Sho_ | jbwiv: No, I think it's surprisingly diverse these days actually. I know KDE devs that use Fedora like me, but also Kubuntu users, Arch users, openSUSE users and Debian users. I couldn't put any of them in the lead numerically. |
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| 01:03.14 | jbwiv | Sho_: cool. thanks for the info ;0 |
| 01:03.19 | jbwiv | er... ;) |
| 01:04.23 | Sho_ | In the folks I work with daily on KDE, I can think of 2-5 folks using any of the above |
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| 01:07.39 | johnny69 | Hi folks, trying to install a superkaramba widget thingy through the desktop "add widget" menu. (it should allow me to use native kde widgets as well as ones intended for superkarmaba) All I am getting no matter which one I try to use is simply the error, "Failed to install xxx widget.theme". Would there be anything in any log about this somewhere so I can track this down? It's not in /var/log/warn that I can see. Any ideas? |
| 01:07.39 | johnny69 | 4.11.3/Opensuse 13.1) Thank you. |
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| 01:09.28 | Sho_ | Maybe you don't have the Superkaramba engine installed |
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| 01:10.53 | johnny69 | I do |
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| 01:11.03 | johnny69 | Latest version as well. |
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| 01:12.02 | johnny69 | In fact, at least on my KDe install...if you don't have it installed then right clicking and choosing "add widget" won't even present installing superkaramba themes. It will be missing from the menu. |
| 01:16.17 | johnny69 | Also, and yes I know this isn't a Kde question but I don't have anywhere else to go..... is there something in Grub2 that I can use that will "auto-detect" my Os's (I'm dual booting here) and it ADD the appropriate entry for Windows Xp? It was there and as of today that entry is gone. |
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| 03:12.49 | quinso1 | Hello. What is KDE'c current state with high-dpi screens? Can it scale everything well or does it look like this http://i.imgur.com/kNVDibW.png ? |
| 03:15.51 | Sho_ | quinso1: Pretty much like that; some of the shell bits fare better and icon scaling mostly works, but for the most part KDE has no high dpi awareness |
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| 07:26.18 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello, Can anyone tell me how can I use lokalize for translating odt documents and make (build) the translated document? |
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| 07:31.51 | valorie | Safa_[A_boy]: as part of the KDE translator team? |
| 07:32.03 | valorie | or a personal project |
| 07:32.14 | Safa_[A_boy] | a personal project |
| 07:32.34 | valorie | the experts in #kde-docs might still be able to help |
| 07:32.38 | valorie | although..... |
| 07:32.45 | valorie | that's more docs than translation |
| 07:32.48 | valorie | sec |
| 07:32.59 | valorie | oops |
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| 07:35.08 | valorie | I see no channels with lokalize in the name, or any KDE-translation teams, using the search tool alis |
| 07:36.10 | valorie | the handbook is at http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdesdk/lokalize/lokalize.pdf |
| 07:36.40 | valorie | I found one blog: http://shaforostoff.blogspot.com/2009/07/testing-kde-43-translation-with.html |
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| 07:37.27 | valorie | for the build part, the #kde-docs team is probably your best resource |
| 07:38.09 | valorie | Safa_[A_boy]: that above was for you |
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| 07:46.31 | Safa_[A_boy] | thanks :) |
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| 07:49.19 | valorie | Safa_[A_boy]: good luck with your project! |
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| 08:50.17 | Lady_Aleena | In the Application Launcher Menu there is a menu item called Favorites. Can that menu be opened independently? If yes, where would I find it? I would like to set up a keyboard shortcut to it. |
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| 09:14.06 | Tahvok | Hey! |
| 09:14.30 | Tahvok | Anyone with admin rights in the bugtracking system? |
| 09:14.38 | Tahvok | I'm having a problem with my account |
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| 09:17.39 | Safa_[A_boy] | valorie: Sorry, I was busy... I read what you said... I can see the odt strings in lokalize... and translate them also... only one problem... when I want to merge the translation file with the origional one... It says that the translation toolkit that I have is not the version needed :\ |
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| 09:17.59 | valorie | well, yikes |
| 09:18.14 | valorie | I guess I would write to the lokalize list then |
| 09:18.18 | valorie | let me find it |
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| 09:19.39 | valorie | actually, there are all the resources on one easy page: http://www.kde.org/applications/development/lokalize/development |
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| 09:29.07 | Safa_[A_boy] | "translate-toolkit is too old" :| |
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| 09:45.29 | Mamarok | Tahvok: what problem? |
| 09:48.48 | Tahvok | Mamarok, I registered some years ago, and today tried to login. I couldn't remember the password so I tried reseting it, but the following message appeared: |
| 09:48.50 | Tahvok | The e-mail address you entered (Tahvok) didn't pass our syntax checking for a legal email address. A legal address must contain exactly one '@', and at least one '.' after the @. It also must not contain any illegal characters. |
| 09:49.13 | Tahvok | So I've tried to register with my email, and it said it already exists. |
| 09:49.14 | Mamarok | it is tahvok@gmail.com |
| 09:49.20 | Tahvok | Mamarok, |
| 09:49.22 | Tahvok | yes |
| 09:49.54 | Mamarok | well, you entered only tahvok, not the complete mail address? That can't work |
| 09:50.09 | Tahvok | Mamarok, Oh I see now |
| 09:50.50 | Tahvok | Mamarok, well, it asks for "Login name". |
| 09:51.05 | Mamarok | apparently you never used that address in bugs.kde.org, can't see any bugs or comments form you |
| 09:51.24 | Tahvok | I wrote email now, and it worked. |
| 09:51.43 | Tahvok | Mamarok, Like I said, I registered years ago, but never actually used it.. |
| 09:52.01 | Mamarok | the error message you got told you to do exactly that, didn't it? |
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| 09:54.25 | Tahvok | Mamarok, yes, I should have read it more carefully.. Though I think in the reset password form it should ask for "email" and not "Login name" |
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| 09:54.42 | Mamarok | yyour login name is your email address, AFAIK |
| 09:54.54 | Tahvok | Mamarok, Oh I see now haha |
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| 09:55.10 | Mamarok | that has always been that wa, as long as I can remember |
| 09:55.14 | Mamarok | way* |
| 09:55.21 | Tahvok | Mamarok, yea my fault sorry |
| 09:55.39 | Mamarok | no problem, problem solved, that's what counts :) |
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| 10:50.14 | koshie_ | Hi, I'm using KMail 4.11.3 and I've two identity, a personnal and a professional, for more than 2 address. I've configured the professional identity to use my professional address, but it keep using the personnal one because I see his signature rather than the professionnal. I don't see a button on an e-mail to change the identity for the mail. Have you an idea, please? |
| 10:50.46 | koshie_ | identities* |
| 10:50.52 | koshie_ | (sorry for my english btw) |
| 10:51.02 | koshie_ | The personnal is the default one |
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| 11:46.15 | Vollstrecker_ | Hey guys, for some days I have problems with kmail and imap. Mails don't get shown, and it takes forever to mark them seen. A quick look with wireshark when switching to a new message shows many akonadi-mysql conversation, but not one piece of imap. |
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| 11:58.06 | Vollstrecker_ | Quitting kmail and starting up again gives me on readable message (the one it starts with), and then again nothing. |
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| 13:06.31 | arafangion | Guys, I'm using kgpg, but it "Doesn't work". |
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| 13:06.44 | arafangion | I launch it in the terminal, and it outputs two identical lines: |
| 13:06.47 | arafangion | QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. |
| 13:07.00 | arafangion | (And again - they're identical lines...), but then *NOTHING* appears. |
| 13:07.15 | arafangion | I expected to have a window, at the very least, but there's nothing. |
| 13:07.54 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 13:10.41 | rdieter | arafangion: look in your systray, click ^ to see hidden icons, kgpg may be there |
| 13:10.58 | arafangion | rdieter: I'm not running kde... I don't have a system tray. |
| 13:11.40 | rdieter | ok, the behavior for an already kgpg is sometimes confusing and leads to what you describe |
| 13:12.02 | rdieter | an already-running kgpg that is |
| 13:12.08 | arafangion | rdieter: Confusing is putting it rather mildly, yes. |
| 13:12.36 | rdieter | but not having a system tray could lead to confusion as well |
| 13:13.17 | arafangion | rdieter: Not many WM's have it. |
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| 13:14.05 | rdieter | checked, kgpg does indeed launch to systray after initial configuration, by default |
| 13:14.28 | arafangion | I'm looking for a "system tray" application now. |
| 13:14.32 | arafangion | Or an alternative gpg client. |
| 13:14.49 | rdieter | kgpg -k |
| 13:15.06 | rdieter | may give you a better result, opens to "key manager" mode |
| 13:15.41 | arafangion | Much, much nicer, thanks. |
| 13:15.43 | rdieter | see, kgpg --help , for available launch options |
| 13:15.44 | arafangion | Also just found 'docker'. |
| 13:15.59 | arafangion | rdieter: One typically doesn't expect teh default behaviour to seem "broken" in this fashion. |
| 13:16.57 | rdieter | agrees, it should be smarter (kwallet manager has similar issues, imho) |
| 13:17.25 | rdieter | where running from command line seems to do nothing, since it opens to systray (and often hidden) |
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| 13:18.10 | arafangion | Thanks for your help, now I know how to handle such apps. |
| 13:18.21 | arafangion | And I also found 'docker', which, sadly, also has serious limitations. |
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| 13:33.28 | koshie_ | I'm using KMail 4.11.3 and I've two identity, a personnal and a professional, for more than 2 address. I've configured the professional identity to use my professional address, but it keep using the personnal one because I see his signature rather than the professionnal. I don't see a button on an e-mail to change the identity for the mail. Have you an idea, please? |
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| 13:47.01 | kfunk | koshie_: you want to change the identity for a new mail? |
| 13:47.10 | kfunk | i dont quite understand what you want |
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| 13:47.43 | koshie_ | I've two accounts, personnal and pro. I have two identity, a personnal and a pro |
| 13:48.08 | koshie_ | I want to have, automatically, the personnal identity to the personnal account and the pro identity to the pro account. The personnal is more used so it's my default |
| 13:48.35 | koshie_ | but when I write a new mail with the pro account it use the signature of the personnal account, it make me feel it's using the personnal identity |
| 13:48.44 | koshie_ | and I don't see a button about it into my email window. |
| 13:48.47 | koshie_ | You get it? |
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| 13:49.07 | kfunk | koshie_: in the mail editor window, try view -> [x] identity |
| 13:49.17 | kfunk | althought that should be on by default (I think) |
| 13:49.21 | kfunk | although* |
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| 13:49.59 | koshie_ | Oh, I didn't see it, thanks. But I can't tell to KMail to use the pro identity for the pro account automatically? |
| 13:51.41 | kfunk | koshie_: why would kmail know that you want to use the 'pro'-identity now? |
| 13:52.09 | koshie_ | kfunk: because I'm on the pro account, and since I'm click on new from this account I'm expecting to have the good identity. |
| 13:52.18 | koshie_ | But maybe I'm asking too much, I don't know :) |
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| 13:52.48 | Kelsar | koshie_: it is like tb handles it |
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| 13:53.27 | kfunk | ' I'm click on new from this account I'm expecting to have the good identity.' <- there's just a "New Mail" button, no? |
| 13:53.36 | koshie_ | Yep |
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| 13:53.48 | koshie_ | but when I'm clicking on it it's from the pro account. ANd I don't know if it changes something. |
| 13:54.16 | kfunk | you mean, you're just viewing a mail in the inbox of the pro-account or something? |
| 13:54.16 | rdieter | koshie_: there should be a Identify/From line in your new compose window |
| 13:54.34 | rdieter | I believe "New" always initially starts from what your default identity is |
| 13:54.36 | rdieter | checks |
| 13:54.40 | kfunk | rdieter: yes |
| 13:54.47 | koshie_ | Oh, ok |
| 13:54.51 | koshie_ | Not a big issue, anyway |
| 13:55.09 | koshie_ | but I'll probably ask the dev (at the good place) if it's not a good idea what I need. |
| 13:55.16 | koshie_ | I guess it is. |
| 13:55.30 | kfunk | yeah, but I see your problem. there could be some heuristics in order to select a proper identity. e.g. if you were just reading a mail from account A, also start the new-mail composer with identity from account A |
| 13:55.44 | koshie_ | Exactly. |
| 13:55.55 | koshie_ | I'm pretty it can avoid a lot of little problem |
| 13:56.06 | koshie_ | as the wrong signature for a mail for the A account, for example |
| 13:56.08 | kfunk | but I can also see that this is not really easy to implement, and it wouldn't be a correct heuristic in every case |
| 13:56.13 | koshie_ | because the default identity is B. |
| 13:56.14 | kfunk | koshie_: file a wish on bugs.kde.org, I'd say |
| 13:56.24 | koshie_ | Ok, thanks |
| 13:56.32 | kfunk | i'd like to see that as well, btw |
| 13:56.45 | koshie_ | kfunk: not sure if I'm writing it right now: I'm at work |
| 13:56.51 | koshie_ | Maybe after :) |
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| 14:33.05 | James0r | how do i set kde to always start with an empty session after login? |
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| 14:35.17 | rdieter | James0r: systemsettings->startup&shutdown->session manager |
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| 14:35.59 | rdieter | session management is the section label, sorry. you want to check "On login" ... "start with an empty session" |
| 14:36.40 | rdieter | personally likes the 'restore manually saved session' option best, gives the most flexibility |
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| 14:37.17 | James0r | rdieter: found it. thanks! i'm trying to workaround an issue with the screensaver opening all previous instances that were in the backgroudn from previous session |
| 14:37.31 | rdieter | <nod> |
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| 14:38.33 | James0r | and i prefer a fresh session anyway. just never went looking until now. |
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| 14:52.27 | moviuro | my soprano database is ~42GB, whereas I have... 5GB data. Where is the 'little' trouble ? |
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| 15:09.09 | koshie_ | kfunk: can I add a comment if a wish/bug is already posted for the identity problem of KMail? |
| 15:09.37 | koshie_ | Plus it seems to be an option into KMail 1, but not 4, according to this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323948 |
| 15:10.41 | kfunk | koshie_: interesting |
| 15:11.06 | kfunk | koshie_: sure, feel free to add a comment and further suggestions |
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| 15:14.50 | koshie_ | For the comment I was thinking about agreed with the guy who posted this bugs and say I want it too. |
| 15:14.50 | koshie_ | And I don't know if it's useless noise. |
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