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01:30.45zenguy_pci have an uissue with .thumbnails and the free disk space it consumes.. can i make a tmpfs with 200-300M what will happen when it gets full.. i cleared rmy tmp folder like 3 weeks ago and allready 2 of them are a total of 5GB
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01:34.59kiwicamHello. Mint13kde. I've got a new GT640 and have now tried several different Nvidia driver install methods from Additional Drivers to install scripts but When I restart after the grub I just get a black screen with a flashing cursor in the top left corner. Changing grub with nomdeset etc gives me a timeout: killing 'sbin modprobe error. What next can I do?
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01:36.33Oslegboteg^:
01:37.10Oslegi wantsa develop KDE!
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01:39.35zenguy_pchttp://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/176
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01:54.23kiwicamzenguy_pc: Thanks. Trying now. I've tried one very similar. I see where I'm probably going wrong. I'm doing update-grub & not update-grub2
01:55.10zenguy_pcgood luck
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02:42.20darwinI am having trouble saving Greek text in text files, and displaying some of its letters in unicode in Konsole
02:45.07darwinmaybe I should not have used nano... I will try KATE... but some letters do not display correctly in Konsole... I made a script to do a command, 'yes text', and text is Greek (since clearing X terms does not really clear them like on a text terminal device)
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02:58.30darwinI figured it out... had to set it to unicode
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03:41.51enkiduhello. is it possible to have per-keyboard input mapping in kde?
03:42.33enkiduie. ps2 keyboard with one-handed dvorak, usb with us-dvorak and bt with qwert
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04:06.38enkiduwhat was default font for KDE panel?
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06:19.48JZAanyone around?
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06:33.17enkiduJZA: me
06:34.13JZAwonder if there is advanced user guide for KDE users. Also a guide or advice on how to compose 'sound themes'
06:34.30JZAbasically sound effect packages for the KDE desktop
06:38.42enkiduI am not into sound effects, to be honest - got them off.
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06:42.09kiwicamzenguy_pc: Hi. I'm still having no luck.  I have an ATI HD4250 which I have not uninstalle dthe drivers. On reboot I set my BIOS to start the PCI card and disable the onboard ATI card. These are my Grub and Xorg configs: http://pastebin.com/CiNkTAum
06:43.26enkidukiwicam: what is your pci card?
06:43.56kiwicamAsus Geforce GT640
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06:44.30enkiduso, you have disabled ati card in bios but you load driver anyways?
06:45.07kiwicamI don't know. I'm assuming that Linux doesn't load those drivers and load the Nvidia drivers instead.
06:45.42enkidulinux scans for hardware since BIOSes are failing in recognizing mouse properly
06:45.56kiwicamThe install goes well. THe log doesn't give any errors. I can post that if you'd like. you might see something I haven't/
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06:46.18enkiduremove fglrx section from xorg and blacklist ati driver in modprobe.d or so
06:48.44kiwicamOK. I'll do that tomorrow now. Do you have a good link? I'm not being lazy, just pensive. There are so many "guides" out there, even on the proper Distro forums.
06:53.15kiwicamI'll just clarify my "I don't know". It was in response to are the ATI drivers still loading, and not, I don't know if I've disabled it in the BIOS, which I have been doing.
06:53.32enkidukiwicam: there is no "guide"... Also, you can try using nouveau driver that doesnt support "only" power mgmt nor SLI (works for me). in /etc/modprobe.d find one .conf file and append "blacklist fglrx"
06:54.38enkidubut if you  use debian stick to nvidia... there will be years when that moron from dx team will enable build of "libvdpau_nouveau"
06:57.55kiwicamThanks. I appreciate your advice. I'll give the nouveux driver a try. I have actually been moving away from proprietary, and all my PC's are now using the OS drivers, even this one with the ATI driver. But I need to run three and sometime four monitors so I figured it might be best to use the proprietary just this once.
06:58.37kiwicamI agree about the silliness of the  "libvdpau_nouveau"
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06:59.13G`Karhello is anyone here? I'm trying to install ktorrent on CentOS 6.4 and I cannot find the software in any of the repositories
07:02.04thiagoG`Kar: download the sources and compile yourself
07:02.40G`Karthiago, okay
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07:08.06brlikdeinit4: kio_http [kdeinit] https local:/tmp/ksocket-brli
07:08.34brliI got this process eaten up my cpu and cause high temperature
07:12.08thiagokill it
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07:33.16brlithiago: but it get execute everytime I reboot, anyway to stop it?
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07:39.02thiagobrli: executing is normal
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07:39.08thiagobrli: taking CPU time, isn't
07:40.21brlihmm interesting :/
07:41.02brliafter idle for a couple of hours, it become cpu monster :/
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07:41.35brliso, if I kill it, if other apps needs it, it would automatically exec, right?
07:43.08thiagoyes
07:44.10brlik, thx for the help :)
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07:55.57kiwicamI love my Window Rules. I have two monitors. I have a rule set so that VLC Player is opened on screen one, at a particular size. I'm looking for a way,s o that if I want to watch that video at full screen, I can just "flick" it over to screen tow with the mouse, or a keyboard combo, and then it just goes there and opens up in full screen mode. Possible?
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08:50.07Leoneofhi, plasma-desktop uses 100MB of memory, is it normal?
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08:52.09brain0a good morning
08:52.19brain0I have a simple question: where the hell do I find this: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdemultimedia/kcontrol/cddbretrieval/cddb-editor.html ?
08:52.26dv_Leoneof: did you measure this with top ?
08:52.49enkiduLeoneof: in my case it uses even 512MB...
08:53.06dv_dont trust top when it comes to memory usage
08:53.27dv_the *actual* memory usage is typically much lower than what is indicated in the RES column
08:54.33Leoneofdv_: in htop and ksysguard
08:54.39Leoneofenkidu: wow O_o
08:54.45dv_yeah, these figures are bogus
08:55.00dv_they include reserved (but not exclusively allocated) ram for the process
08:55.51dv_I did a test once on a project I was developing. top indicated 112 MB resident mem usage. valgrind massif measures 15 MB actual memory allocation.
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08:56.10LeoneofO_O
08:56.20dv_truth is, measuring memory usage isnt easy
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09:41.20geomyidaewhy doesn't someone consildate the kde instructions page
09:41.36geomyidaeone, its been rearranged, the runtime conf stuff comes before the rest of the build instructions? lol
09:42.15geomyidaealso, since it's just setting env vars, that you have to then set again later in ... a rc file... for a perl script... couldn't the env setup be done before build and then those vars just read from the environment... in the ... perl script ;0
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09:47.28valoriegeomyidae: it's a wiki
09:47.34valorieplease edit and make it better
09:47.41geomyidaevalorie: does that make sense?
09:47.45geomyidaeif so, I shall
09:48.01valorieif you are talking about instructions you found in techbase
09:48.09valorieor even userbase, they are both wikis
09:48.22valorieand obviously need your loving care
09:48.25valorie:-)
09:48.50geomyidaesorry, I was asking if my thoughts made sense for this page http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building
09:48.56valoriewe build this together
09:48.59geomyidaeI don't want to edit it and find out I'm misunderstanding.
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09:50.17valoriewell then, you will need the advice of someone far more knowledgeable than me
09:50.27valorieI build amarok, and that's about it
09:50.49valorieIf I was going to try to run frameworks, I'd look into project neon
09:52.45valorieI've always gotten dependencies and then set env. vars in the order they are saying
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09:53.10valoriebut as i say, I've never built all of kde sc, just one application and a smidge of other stuff
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10:32.33AardwolfHi, how to set up KDE to always start kmix on startup? Thanks!
10:33.30AardwolfNOTE: the autostart setting of it is on, yet it doesn't
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11:03.14asm32devhi lads
11:03.19asm32devi have a problem
11:03.30asm32devi installed amarok but my equalizer is inactive
11:03.35asm32devusing arch linux + alsa
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11:09.16asm32devcome on lads
11:09.31asm32devi know, i'm not the only one who loves equalizer)
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12:00.12asm32devis anyone here?
12:00.18DevilholkUhm.. So my kalarm uses 3G of RAM. Should I just kill it or should I attempt to extract some information first?
12:00.27asm32devoh, good
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12:00.33asm32devso i have a problem
12:00.43asm32devi installed amarok but my equalizer is inactive
12:00.48asm32devusing arch linux + alsa
12:00.51asm32devvlc backend
12:02.14DevilholkThe problem is that the equalizer is inactive?
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12:02.39DaZasm32dev: can't you toggle that checkbox to make it active? ._.
12:03.01asm32devit's inactive too). i'm not so silly :)
12:03.25Devilholkhave you tried running amarok from the terminal?
12:03.34DevilholkMaybe it says something about not able to use the equializer
12:04.07DaZjust saying, stuff like that just isn't that easy to notice under certain conditions :V
12:04.38DevilholkHm. My kalarm keeps allocating more memory
12:04.51DaZit's leaking apparently <:
12:04.53DevilholkYeah
12:04.57DevilholkAbout 30k a second
12:05.04DevilholkIt's been on for a few days
12:06.11DevilholkHehe. My memory usage graph just fell from 3.5G to 0.5G  =)
12:06.12DaZequalizer doesn't seem to work with vlc backend for me either :v
12:06.46asm32devhm.. it means i must change it back to gstreamer :)
12:07.16asm32devso if i run it from term it gives me an error http://pastebin.com/dXGzFkny
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12:10.02asm32devhm, yes, i found that vlc backend simply does not provide this functionality
12:10.10asm32devmust google more next time
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12:16.10asm32devlads, can i ask you a question?
12:16.23asm32devwhat linux you are using and why?
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13:15.38PasNox_Hi
13:16.07PasNox_i'm trying to get information about the "Nepomuk collection" plugn in amarok, but each time it freeze amarok and i have to kill it. same if i try to enable it ... any hint ?
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13:20.39PasNoxi activated the nepomuk collection and got freeze, i kill amarok but now it freeze at startup, i think it still got the nepomuk plugin activated... how i can disable it  from settings files please?
13:21.39MamarokPasNox: that is only a technical preview, and you are in the wrong channel, ask in #amarok
13:22.14Mamarokto disable it edit the amarokrc file in $HOME/.kde/share/config/
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13:54.26DaZoquidave: change the default app in the settings perhaps? :v
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13:57.06oquidavei do that everytime, i tell it to associate such a file with for instance, kwrite...but still no change
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16:47.10marc5858Anyone else unable to reach projects.kde.org?
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17:03.00esing(Found the options for the deletion time in dolphin)
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17:22.40yecril71plHow useful is the MTP I/O slave?
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17:24.06Soul_Samplemanjaro, kde 4.11.2, and 4.11.3 - kdm fails to start. don't know why, it boots up the X server, my gpu fan slows down meaning the nvidia driver is loaded, and then it boots me back to the tty. i can then systemctl restart kdm and it loads properly, but not on the automatic, first try. any ideas why?
17:24.31Soul_Sampleif i replace the DM with anything else, it loads (using Slim right now) and I can boot into my desktop as usual
17:24.49yecril71plExamine the log
17:25.22Soul_Samplewhich one, i'm new to systemd
17:25.30yecril71plkdm.log
17:25.43yecril71plgeneral log is journalctl
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17:26.41Soul_Sampleok, just a sec
17:27.06Soul_Samplethis should be it, then http://pastebin.kde.org/pn1acg7d3
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17:30.28yecril71plThe X server crashed, it is not KDE’s fault
17:30.55yecril71plbut you can examine Xorg.0.log
17:31.22yecril71planyway, #xorg
17:32.18Soul_Samplesince other display managers work just fine, it seems to me that it is kde's fault but ok, i'll try xorg, thanks
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17:32.58yecril71plKDE is just the circumstance, not the reason
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17:33.50Soul_Samplewhat sucks about this is that i haven't updated a thing between the working and not working phases. it just stopped.
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17:40.47shumskiSoul_Sample: do you have plymouth activated? if yes, tried disabling it?
17:41.03Soul_Samplenope, no plymouth
17:41.29shumskiok
17:42.11Soul_Samplemy best guess is that it fails to load in time and then just gives up, but messing with the delays in various kdm conf files yielded no results
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18:22.35markitk3b says "K3b did not find any optical device in your system.", any clue? The user belongs to cdrom and the device works (playing the dvd)
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18:45.09ImageJPEGanything that powerdevil depends on? i'm running gentoo with kde 4.10.5 and for some reason the powerdevil module doesn't want to load
18:46.39shumskiupower running?
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18:48.15ImageJPEGno, it's not :/
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18:49.03shumskiit really needs upower running afaik
18:49.27ImageJPEGyes, it does. i just started it and now i can get into the power settings in the kde settings
18:49.46ImageJPEGbut i see that upower isn't a daemon? any suggestions to autostart it?
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18:50.22shumskisystemctl enable upower :-) don't know how is integrated with gentoo
18:50.59ImageJPEGi don't use systemd, and i'm looking in my /etc/init.d folder and i can't find upower
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18:54.36shumski(since it provides a DBus service, it should be actually start on-demand, but, as said, no idea how it's integrated in gentoo)
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19:51.54Denommusdoes setting the Account Name in Account Details crash system settings of anyone else? Why does this happen?
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19:55.49Denommuswell, changed it manually with sudo chfn
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22:20.20koshieHi
22:22.13koshieI've a problem with KDE 4.11.3 on Debian Jessie and my panel: it's always before the top of windows, and I can't make them go below the panel. Even if I configure the panel for.
22:22.18koshieHave you an idea, please?
22:22.27koshieI've also tried to re-add a new empty/default panel
22:22.29koshiedidn't works.
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23:01.10Osleghey all... after 45857389 years of using KDE i found out that we don't have horizontal quick tiling.... or we do and i don't know how to enable it?
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