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| 00:05.43 | OlivierDuParagno | I need KDE 4.9 for Oxygen transparent, but apt-get only gives me 4.4 and cloning from git and compiling by source downloads it at 5kb/s is there any apt repository that has > 4.9? |
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| 00:08.26 | OlivierDuParagno | kde-workspace* by the way |
| 00:08.57 | MouseTheLuckyDog | How can an application knwo that you have told KDE to logoff? |
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| 02:32.19 | reactormonk | I have some old wierd mails that just don't want to get themselves set to read in my gmail account - I'm connecting to it via IMAP. |
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| 02:40.20 | mefistofeles | hey, I'm experiencing lately some random crashes with plasma-desktop... nothing in special to trigger it. KDE commonly recovers itself but sometimes I have to manually run "plasma-desktop". I'm using kde 4.11.2 , any ideas why is this happening? |
| 02:40.35 | mefistofeles | (on Archlinux btw) |
| 02:41.26 | thiago | bug |
| 02:43.18 | mefistofeles | thiago: is it a known one? |
| 02:44.33 | thiago | that depends on your bug |
| 02:44.38 | thiago | I don't have enough information to tell |
| 02:44.46 | thiago | all I can tell is that it is a bug |
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| 02:45.31 | mefistofeles | thiago: I don't get a crash report/information on this one... any ideas how to get more information? |
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| 09:02.39 | coredumb | Hello |
| 09:02.49 | coredumb | i wanted to reset my kmail profile |
| 09:03.28 | coredumb | as i don't use KDE, only kmail i deleted .kde, .local/share/akonadi and .config/akonadi |
| 09:03.39 | coredumb | all that with akonadi killed down |
| 09:03.55 | coredumb | now i can't restart akonadi |
| 09:04.10 | coredumb | seems it can't recreate its mysql database |
| 09:05.06 | coredumb | any idea how to fix it ? |
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| 09:06.16 | aton` | hi |
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| 09:07.05 | aton` | i am looking for a desktop monitor like karamba, but most of the good stuff on kde-look.org is from 2003-2005, is there nothing new? |
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| 09:12.39 | sspiff | I'm looking for a channel to ask questions about plasma active, is this the right one, or is there a more specific channel? |
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| 09:45.53 | sspiff | thx kaffeebohne! |
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| 10:04.23 | coredumb | isn't akonadi supposed to start the mysql database itself ? |
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| 10:45.27 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
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| 12:06.51 | woodefec | hi, I have an external soundcard that is the H4n recorder |
| 12:07.19 | woodefec | now, I want to switch sound between the built in soundcard in laptop and the H4n |
| 12:07.39 | kaffeebohne | woodefec: Only once or "forever"? |
| 12:07.47 | kaffeebohne | damn |
| 12:07.49 | woodefec | I do it in KDE's multimedia settings by bringing the H4 up in the lists |
| 12:08.04 | woodefec | kaffeebohne, i'd like to be able to switch between them |
| 12:08.06 | kaffeebohne | Is there a driver for that sound card? |
| 12:08.17 | woodefec | KDE sees it as H4 |
| 12:08.21 | woodefec | looks fine |
| 12:08.39 | woodefec | also, the dj mixing program mixxx uses it without problems |
| 12:08.48 | woodefec | using the H4 listed driver |
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| 12:08.59 | woodefec | so it proves this driver works |
| 12:09.01 | kaffeebohne | veromix is a nice applet which allows you to switch around sound pools and stuff |
| 12:09.18 | kaffeebohne | do you use pulse? |
| 12:09.18 | woodefec | veromix is a plasma thingy? |
| 12:09.27 | woodefec | kaffeebohne, no, no pulse |
| 12:09.28 | kaffeebohne | yes |
| 12:09.30 | kaffeebohne | ok |
| 12:09.35 | kaffeebohne | what do you use then? |
| 12:09.47 | woodefec | pulse causes me different issues so I'd like to stay away |
| 12:10.10 | woodefec | the usual KDE 4.11.2 built in stuff from opensuse 12.3 |
| 12:10.38 | kaffeebohne | Yeah, I don't know what that uses. Maybe you could ask in the forums or irc of opensuse? |
| 12:10.55 | woodefec | guess phonon/alsa or something, I am a bit lost in the audio idea in GNU/Linux seems like a huge pile of complicated stuff |
| 12:11.21 | woodefec | kaffeebohne, for sure no pulse, I deinstalled it totally |
| 12:11.23 | kaffeebohne | I'd recommend jack if you want low latencies etc. |
| 12:11.27 | kaffeebohne | ok |
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| 12:11.52 | woodefec | jack I use when I compose, for daily listening i'd have a simple tool |
| 12:11.54 | kaffeebohne | sorry, i can't really help you then. veromix uses pulse as far as i know but you could try it without. |
| 12:11.59 | woodefec | I'll check veromix |
| 12:12.04 | woodefec | ah |
| 12:12.08 | woodefec | uses pulse |
| 12:12.19 | woodefec | allright, ill search some neat mixers in repos |
| 12:12.25 | woodefec | thanks, see u later |
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| 12:52.27 | OmnipotentEntity | hi there! I open a konsole window and resize it and kde crashes. How can I start figuring out what's going on here? |
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| 12:53.09 | rdieter | OmnipotentEntity: I'd recommdn you let drkonqi crash handler generate a backtrace |
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| 12:53.37 | rdieter | and then optionally file a bug. |
| 12:54.13 | rdieter | that said, if the whole session dies, it probably means video driver crash/bug |
| 12:54.33 | rdieter | does it start with an n? :) |
| 12:54.34 | OmnipotentEntity | I can believe that |
| 12:54.38 | OmnipotentEntity | no |
| 12:54.41 | OmnipotentEntity | it's a radeon |
| 12:55.07 | rdieter | free or nonfree/proprietary driver? |
| 12:55.21 | OmnipotentEntity | probably the nonfree one, let me double check |
| 12:55.36 | rdieter | i guess drkonqi won't catch this if the whole session dies |
| 12:55.51 | rdieter | I misread initially, thought only konsole crashed |
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| 12:59.52 | OmnipotentEntity | rdieter, using fglrx, that's the nonfree one right? |
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| 12:59.57 | rdieter | yup |
| 13:00.00 | OmnipotentEntity | I'll try with the free one |
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| 13:28.06 | ovidiu-florin | hello world |
| 13:28.24 | ovidiu-florin | I have a 2 monitor setup. Can I set virtual desktops to work separatly on each monitor? |
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| 13:30.19 | rdieter | i doubt it |
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| 13:33.46 | Kelsar | ovidiu-florin: your search term is multiseat |
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| 13:39.26 | ovidiu-florin | Kelsar: not really |
| 13:40.05 | ovidiu-florin | wait |
| 13:43.34 | ovidiu-florin | yes, this could work, thank you Kelsar |
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| 16:09.36 | ovidiu-florin | can I change the size of the notification area of the widget? |
| 16:09.50 | ovidiu-florin | I would like to make it bigger, so that more info can fit in it |
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| 16:31.39 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin. the system tray ? , if so it expands in size to accommodate the icon/app that you choose, if the app gives that option |
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| 16:32.12 | ovidiu-florin | I'm talking about the new mail notification |
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| 16:35.10 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin. kmail ? |
| 16:36.40 | BluesKaj | the system tray option is usually set up in the app or email client in your case, ovidiu-florin |
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| 17:20.02 | seanz | Dumb question about knode: how do I refresh an account such that new groups show up? |
| 17:20.07 | seanz | I'm having a heck of a time doing that. |
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| 17:22.37 | seanz | Alright, never mind. Figured it out. |
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| 17:48.39 | ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: I haven't seen such an option in Kmail |
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| 17:56.17 | JoeSomebody | hello again, script noob here, is it possible to add desktop and panel widgets with a script? |
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| 17:59.57 | keithzg | Is there an LDAP schema that Kontact/KAddressBook will read birth dates from? Or just an attribute name/type? Wanting to add that to my work's LDAP instance (to keep track of peoples' birthdays), but I want to make sure any clients like Kontact actually understand it. |
| 18:01.14 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin. ok , I haven't used kmail sucessfully since kde3 , but I recall the notifier would pop up in the system tray when new email arrived , currently I'm using thunderbird and it has the system tray nofication option |
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| 18:50.18 | Oleg_ | one particular bug still remains in kde 4.10.5: konsole sometimes doesn't start if I try to start it |
| 18:50.47 | Oleg_ | but yakuake never has a problem starting |
| 18:51.07 | saptech | hi all |
| 18:51.36 | saptech | anyone know a good email client to connect to my job's Exchange server? |
| 18:52.03 | saptech | right now I do not have an email client |
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| 18:55.11 | saptech | I tried using Geary email client but it keeps telling me to enter my keyring password, it wasn't entered during log on |
| 18:55.33 | saptech | I'm not sure what keyring password it's referring to |
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| 19:52.24 | ZeDestructor | any KDE+pulseaudio users in here? |
| 19:53.00 | ZeDestructor | I find that KDE's volume adjustment steps are too large and would like to reduce them from 5% steps to 2% steps |
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| 20:03.18 | brli | ZeDestructor: has exactly the same problem here :/ but seems unresolvable |
| 20:04.01 | ZeDestructor | I'll patch the damn source if I have to! just find me where the #define is D: |
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| 20:05.35 | brli | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:07.43 | ZeDestructor | nothing |
| 20:08.15 | ZeDestructor | it has a single related option: "enable-deferred-colume = yes" |
| 20:08.52 | brli | ZeDestructor: look at the other stuff in that dir, may help :) |
| 20:08.58 | ZeDestructor | I'm poking |
| 20:09.23 | ZeDestructor | setting proper default samplr rates for my card before I bother :P |
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| 20:10.43 | ZeDestructor | nope, nothing |
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| 20:18.30 | ZeDestructor | in any case, its a KDE thing |
| 20:18.42 | ZeDestructor | since it scales properly from 0-100% |
| 20:18.50 | ZeDestructor | its just that KDE does 5% block |
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| 20:21.16 | brli | ZeDestructor: you mean kmix? |
| 20:21.22 | tosky | ù |
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| 20:22.16 | ZeDestructor | yeah |
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| 20:23.55 | brli | ZeDestructor: I have no idea about that :/ maybe you can file a bug on kde's bugtracker |
| 20:24.04 | ZeDestructor | i FOUND THIS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335780 |
| 20:24.06 | ZeDestructor | sorry |
| 20:24.12 | ZeDestructor | didn't mean to caps |
| 20:24.15 | ZeDestructor | so hacky |
| 20:25.31 | ZeDestructor | also, the new networkmanager applet is fugly |
| 20:27.43 | brli | ZeDestructor: I've heard a plasmoid called veromix |
| 20:27.50 | brli | maybe you can try that |
| 20:27.54 | ZeDestructor | I've heard of it too |
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| 20:28.01 | ZeDestructor | but from my understanding, uses KMix as backend |
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| 20:40.58 | br4ndon | Hi there: |
| 20:42.02 | br4ndon | If I change any setting in KDE params, then the changed setting won't actually take effect if I'm using another environment than KDE |
| 20:42.31 | br4ndon | I'm using KDE 4.11.2, and trying to change the color scheme of QT apps with kde settings panel from E17 |
| 20:42.38 | br4ndon | it works on my other laptop though |
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| 20:42.50 | br4ndon | I tired to remove .kde in both user and root home dirs |
| 20:42.53 | br4ndon | *tried |
| 20:42.57 | br4ndon | but no luck :/ |
| 20:43.22 | br4ndon | I also tried to change something else than qt app colors, but no luck |
| 20:43.48 | br4ndon | also, changing them from KDE works, but after coming back to E17 or any other environment then the settings are back to defaults |
| 20:44.08 | br4ndon | am I missing something here? Some clue anyone? ;à |
| 20:44.10 | br4ndon | :) |
| 20:44.10 | VoidAtValhalla | br4ndon: just idea: did you tried to specify config dir with KDEHOME ? |
| 20:44.35 | br4ndon | VoidAtValhalla: no, I should I do this? |
| 20:46.27 | VoidAtValhalla | br4ndon: try it |
| 20:47.27 | br4ndon | VoidAtValhalla: export KDEHOME="~/.kde" ? |
| 20:47.41 | br4ndon | in .xinitrc? |
| 20:49.12 | VoidAtValhalla | br4ndon: just try (first): KDEHOME="$HOME/.kde4" your_app |
| 20:49.26 | br4ndon | VoidAtValhalla: I meant "how should I do this?" (sorry, afterwork slacking) |
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| 20:49.47 | br4ndon | VoidAtValhalla: alright thanks |
| 20:50.01 | VoidAtValhalla | br4ndon: not sure if it will help it was just idea :) |
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| 20:58.54 | br4ndon | VoidAtValhalla: guess what? we're close I think |
| 20:59.12 | br4ndon | so lauching kde settings with: KDEHOME="~/.kde" systemsettings |
| 20:59.23 | br4ndon | showed me none of the color schemes I downloaded |
| 20:59.27 | br4ndon | So i downloaded them |
| 20:59.35 | br4ndon | tried to apply one of them |
| 20:59.50 | br4ndon | but again, "applying" does not work |
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| 21:01.40 | VoidAtValhalla | br4ndon: what qtconfig does say ? |
| 21:02.39 | br4ndon | actually, the kde settings loaded with e17 looks nothing like the full KDE settings |
| 21:02.39 | br4ndon | it's more about some KDE path var I guess |
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| 21:04.56 | VoidAtValhalla | sure it will load only basic things :) but qtconfig should show you how it should look like |
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| 22:49.28 | JoeSomebody | ok how about a way to copy a panel from one system to another? |
| 22:49.38 | JoeSomebody | OR is it possible to add desktop and panel widgets with a script? |
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| 23:10.40 | OlivierDuParagno | So eh, anyone here using oxygen transparent? |
| 23:11.00 | OlivierDuParagno | Because I can't get it to work, installed without errors, it's there in the widget style, but altering the slider does nothing |
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| 23:13.51 | shumski | check that you have correct branch |
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| 23:27.37 | OlivierDuParagno | shumski, of oxygen transparent? |
| 23:27.43 | OlivierDuParagno | Which one is 'correct'? |
| 23:28.04 | shumski | depends on your kde-workspace version |
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| 23:29.29 | OlivierDuParagno | Oh in that way |
| 23:29.37 | OlivierDuParagno | I got KDE 4.10, that shouldn't be a problem |
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| 23:29.50 | OlivierDuParagno | ALso, I have read it gives error messages if you don't select the right one |
| 23:31.57 | shumski | there is a dedicated KDE/4.10 branch, did you checked out that one? |
| 23:35.50 | OlivierDuParagno | The 4.10 branch is the default once right? You need to use a configuration otion to access 4.9 and 4.8? |
| 23:37.21 | shumski | master is default. i assume it is for 4.11 |
| 23:38.08 | OlivierDuParagno | Hmm, looking hre there is an 4.8, 4.9 and master banch |
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| 23:40.12 | shumski | then you have an old checkout :-) |
| 23:42.57 | OlivierDuParagno | Hmm |
| 23:43.00 | OlivierDuParagno | this is the one I googled for. |
| 23:43.52 | shumski | how did you installed it? |
| 23:45.09 | OlivierDuParagno | I cloned from git, ran ./oxygen-setup.pl |
| 23:45.17 | OlivierDuParagno | No errors, then just make install |
| 23:45.31 | OlivierDuParagno | It shows up in the style without any errors and the transparency bar is there but it does nothing, goes nowhere |
| 23:47.10 | shumski | it should go: oxygen-setup.pl --branch KDE/4.10, have you done that? |
| 23:47.23 | OlivierDuParagno | Ahhh, no, --branch=4.10 |
| 23:47.57 | OlivierDuParagno | Yeah, it pulls somthing new from git now |
| 23:48.35 | OlivierDuParagno | It might also have someting to do with that I am on enlightenment though, not sure? Like it shouldn't but you never know. |
| 23:49.12 | OlivierDuParagno | In theory enlightenment should just apply its own compositing alpha over the alpha that Qt gives it right? |
| 23:49.22 | shumski | should not. but will be effective only Qt/KDE apps |
| 23:50.12 | OlivierDuParagno | Yeah, I know, but I managed to hack together that everthing runs n a consistent Qt window, even te things that aren't supposed to. |
| 23:50.16 | OlivierDuParagno | Well, we'll see. |
| 23:52.30 | shumski | yup |
| 23:53.37 | OlivierDuParagno | Nope, does nothing. |
| 23:54.02 | OlivierDuParagno | I'm supposed to just after running sudo make install be able to go to application appearance and set the transparancy, then restart the window manager and see the result right? |
| 23:54.51 | OlivierDuParagno | Hmm, in fact changing it to win 9x in the style does nothing |
| 23:54.52 | shumski | yes, also change style to oxygen-transparent |
| 23:54.56 | OlivierDuParagno | I think my problem lies elsewhere |
| 23:55.09 | OlivierDuParagno | You can't adjust the transparancy bar without changing the style though |
| 23:55.38 | shumski | could be, try clearing Trolltech.conf. |
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| 23:56.37 | OlivierDuParagno | Where is that located? |
| 23:57.02 | shumski | ~/.config |
| 23:57.02 | apt | well, /.config is the freedesktop.org standard AIUI |
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| 23:57.39 | shumski | make sure that none Qt app is running |
| 23:58.39 | shumski | also note that Qt needs to be aware of KDE plugin location |
| 23:59.54 | OlivierDuParagno | How can I delete it without a Qt app running if my filemanager and console are Qt apps? |