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| 01:03.44 | coolack | Hello all i was wondering if someone can help me, I just updated to the new kernel. and now my desktop effects are not working. They work if I type in the command KWIN_DIRECT_GL=1 KWIN_COMPOSE=O2 kwin --replace & in a console |
| 01:04.11 | coolack | but how can i get it to work on boot again without using that command? |
| 01:05.01 | coolack | i've tried system settings, and desktop effects and toggling diff options nothing make a diff except that command....tks for the help |
| 01:05.36 | coolack | I don't know if something is missing from my xorg.conf or should I just say the hell with it and make that command an executable script? |
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| 01:24.16 | coolack | Sorry - System Settings |
| 01:24.16 | coolack | Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to the previous values. |
| 01:24.16 | coolack | Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially the compositing type. |
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| 01:25.31 | coolack | i only get my kde effects to work if I type KWIN_DIRECT_GL=1 KWIN_COMPOSE=O2 kwin --replace & in konsole |
| 01:25.36 | coolack | how can i fix? |
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| 01:40.59 | naacals | hi anyone using kde plasma? just wondering how the keyboard is compared to gnomes 3.8? |
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| 01:43.30 | naacals | just wondering about the keyboard becasue it looks so small |
| 01:45.00 | msx | naacals: hi, you're talking about the plasma desktop or plasma active? |
| 01:46.05 | naacals | msx: oh i thought they were the same... whats the difference? its probably the desktop.. thats great on tablets? |
| 01:47.25 | naacals | msx: i saw a thread where they were talking about kde-plasma-active and how sweet it is. i use a tablet with linux and no DE i was about to install gnome 3.8 for its great virtual keyboard till i heard about this plasma active |
| 01:48.26 | msx | i don't know about gnome but plasma active is both beatiful and powerful |
| 01:49.05 | naacals | theres a plasma active one i saw.. so whats the different between plasma desktop and plasma active one? |
| 01:49.13 | msx | and as always with kde, it gives the users the choice to decide how to use it rather than imposing a single-way to use their systems |
| 01:49.42 | msx | naacals: plasma is the technology behind the both projects |
| 01:50.26 | msx | plasma active is kde ported to mobil gadgets (i don't know what they use as a base, i suspect it must be some linux) |
| 01:52.20 | msx | plasma desktop is the full desktop environment you enjoy on your computers |
| 01:52.53 | msx | think as active as a subset of the plasma desktop tailored for mobile computing |
| 01:53.07 | naacals | ok then i probably only need the DE since i already have gentoo on mine.. and this is a pc tablet. not like one of those mobil tablets with embedded systems |
| 01:54.26 | msx | naacals: did you put gentoo on your tablet? beautiful! :D yeas, go with the full desktop then! |
| 01:55.36 | msx | naacals: there's a plasmoid you will likely need to install "plasmaboard" as it is a full virtual keyboard |
| 01:55.43 | naacals | msx: yep! im like the first to do it.. shouldve seen me in #gentoo getting help.. they were like oh umm idk tablets are a whole other beast. |
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| 01:56.14 | msx | haha good one |
| 01:56.17 | naacals | msx: till they found out i had a rare tablet that has an amd64 i5 processor with 4gb.. :) so it wasnt as bad as they thought |
| 01:56.38 | naacals | SSD drive too |
| 01:56.58 | msx | so you have a little transformer in your hands! that's a lot of power for just a tablet |
| 01:57.11 | msx | in fact is a computer w/o physical kbd! |
| 01:57.26 | naacals | i love it.. now i saw this plasma and was like sweet! thats what i have been trying to build myself with Openbox! i came pretty close to it |
| 01:58.10 | naacals | i made it so that if i touched certain corners of my screen it would bring up all my windows, or it would bring up a virtual keyboard, or settigns |
| 01:58.22 | naacals | yep |
| 01:59.06 | msx | well, i've used gentoo way back ago but it will surely take it time to compile the entire kde stack within the tablet, may be it would be better to compile it in your computer and the install it in the tablet? |
| 01:59.09 | naacals | so im big on virtual keyboards. i tried finding gnomes keyboard to complete my custom openbox DE and couldnt. i think its called caribou |
| 01:59.27 | msx | i'm not a gentoo user so i may well be speaking nonsense! |
| 02:00.04 | msx | oh i see what you're doing |
| 02:00.06 | naacals | msx.. yeah it wont make a difference. this is just a computer inside a tablet. its pretty fast too with the SSD and i5 processor |
| 02:00.10 | msx | happy hacking then! |
| 02:00.25 | naacals | msx: not doing it anymore. got rid of openbox for gnome |
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| 02:00.51 | naacals | and then upgraded and just switched to systemd and i was about to install gnome3.8 but learned of plasma |
| 02:02.27 | msx | did you guys dropped openrc finally? didn't saw that one coming so soon |
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| 02:08.04 | naacals | msx: nope. not yet. i dont think they like that i switched over either |
| 02:08.31 | naacals | lots of grumpy people making comments when i seek help and mention systemd. like"youre on your own, good luck with that" |
| 02:09.35 | naacals | i decided to do it because its mentioned alot on twitter by cpu geniuses and bloggers.. so i had to dive in. i heard that other big systems have already switched over. |
| 02:09.59 | msx | naacals: you know what, i'm sick of that arrogant, asshole fart-faced attitude some people on floss have |
| 02:10.45 | naacals | yeah. they act like they are the creators of openrc init |
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| 02:11.33 | msx | naacals: well systemd is an amazing PID 1 indeed but i don't know, i think that with the old sysvinit scripts we had more portability between systems |
| 02:12.26 | msx | naacals: they act like they are stephen hawkings or better, sheldon cooper ;) |
| 02:12.36 | msx | grow up kids |
| 02:14.37 | naacals | i think they just dont want to have to relearn the system. |
| 02:14.51 | naacals | to me its great .. its called system evolution |
| 02:15.39 | naacals | i literally just got into mine today.. had wifi problems so i hve no idea what the differences are. all i know is i have to type systemctl for everything thus far lol |
| 02:17.46 | msx | naacals: no, i don't have any problem learning something new providing that's something interisting, useful or 'better' but it's like systemd is a juggernaut you know? a behemoth, it handles too many tasks and is in charge of too many things |
| 02:18.54 | msx | but as i say i still like and being a former arch linux user it's been quite a while i been using it ^ ^ |
| 02:23.21 | naacals | what do you use now? |
| 02:24.11 | naacals | i read its a daemon that the developer wanted to be able to handle more tasks individualy and independently. umm cant think of the word im look for.. l |
| 02:26.03 | naacals | i have a lot of reading to do thats for sure to appreciate systemd |
| 02:26.10 | msx | after enjoying every second of arch for more than 5 years i don't have the time anymore to babysitting an always-evolving OS - so my natural choice was something in the line, i found home in Chakra (it's amazing!) |
| 02:27.59 | msx | naacals: the only problem with systemd is that if they let it grow wildly at the actual rate it will become Skynet in time... |
| 02:28.04 | msx | xD |
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| 02:30.01 | msx | however the good part is as GNU+Linux OSes have begun to standardize sysadmin's work becomes a bit let complex in heterogeneous deploys |
| 02:30.46 | msx | so you learn systemd once and you apply that in every distribution that uses systemd |
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| 02:32.42 | naacals | hahah well if that happens. im heading to cheyenne mountain with all my guns and a rations |
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| 02:33.27 | naacals | isnt Chakra arch based? or gentoo based? i forgot which one. i thought i read that somewhere |
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| 02:34.01 | naacals | idk i like my gentoo that i can cross compile a system for any device. :) i was working on getting it on my old motorola Q cell phone but couldnt find time |
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| 02:58.38 | msx | naacals: "hahah well if that happens. im heading to cheyenne mountain with all my guns and a rations" ROFLOL! |
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| 03:17.37 | naacals | msx that was a good movie :) im a big terminator fan. i saw 1, 2, and 3 in the theatre.. 1 had to sneak in to theatre for being like 7 at the time |
| 03:18.11 | msx | AGREED |
| 03:18.40 | naacals | so someone just told me Plasma Active is in the KDE overlay under kde-active/* and i added kde to layman but its saying its not a valid package atom |
| 03:21.00 | msx | naacals: i'm so sorry but my experience with gentoo or funtoo is minimal :( |
| 03:22.17 | msx | still i can search for an acquaintance G+ that is a gentoo/funtoo and kde freak and can surely help you on that, just let me know |
| 03:22.40 | msx | naacals: on G+ profile i mean :P |
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| 03:40.15 | naacals | msx: btw whats a plasmoid? |
| 03:40.51 | msx | naacals: that's the name of the 'widgets' that run on the plasma desktop |
| 03:41.37 | msx | you know that everything you place in a plasma desktop is a widget, and that's part of the versatility and power of the modern kde desktop |
| 03:41.52 | msx | that lets you do magic, literally |
| 03:42.34 | msx | for example: the default panel that contains the menu, the running tasks and a the systray is a plasmoid itself |
| 03:42.51 | msx | so are everything inside it |
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| 04:05.11 | naacals | msx: damn. thats what i needed for openbox.. was widgets |
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| 04:06.18 | naacals | my openbox goal was to duplicate a system like win8 with the little windows containing apps.. basically are all widgets |
| 04:06.35 | naacals | i know people hate win8 but i find it very convenient for media. |
| 04:07.07 | naacals | so the plasmaboard is what contains the plasmoids? |
| 04:07.47 | naacals | neat stuff.. im trying to compare it to DE and Window managers |
| 04:10.43 | msx | naacals: "so the plasmaboard is what contains the plasmoids?" not quite! plasmaboard is just the name of a virtual keyboard plasmoid! |
| 04:11.27 | msx | in kde4 the whole "desktop" paradigm was revamped and now act as a 'giant container' of plasmoids |
| 04:12.00 | msx | you will find that by default you can't just throw files to the 'desktop' (you know, the background!) |
| 04:12.38 | msx | you can have the old functionality by right-click and choosing "Default Desktop Settings" |
| 04:12.52 | msx | and, for the records, i like very much Metro |
| 04:13.09 | blackstar | Default Desktop Settings was always very ambiguous to me, I could not tell if it was to set default or to change default |
| 04:14.40 | msx | as a media analist said, "Metro isn't designed to *produce content* but rather to *consume content*, that's why Metro on a desktop machine didn't work as expected, until they put back the Orb in the new 8.1 |
| 04:15.07 | blackstar | the start button in 8.1 just opens metro |
| 04:15.22 | blackstar | MS wants those juicy profits that come from selling disposable content consumption devices |
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| 04:15.45 | msx | blackstar: really!!? i think they would put back some of the legacy functionality, :s |
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| 04:16.57 | msx | "Default Desktop Settings was always very ambiguous to me, I could not tell if it was to set default or to change default" never thought it that way but you have a point, may be you wanto to fill a bugreport about that |
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| 04:27.38 | roflcopter312 | hi |
| 04:27.38 | blackstar | msx maybe i will, i haven't opened one for much yet. and yes MS isn't brining it back. you can get it with third party programs but at this point it's a waste of time |
| 04:27.41 | blackstar | hi roflcopter312 |
| 04:27.59 | roflcopter312 | is it possible to load the dophin kpart in other browsers than konqueror? |
| 04:28.43 | blackstar | I believe dolphin still uses KHTML |
| 04:28.49 | blackstar | which is what webkit was forked from |
| 04:29.15 | roflcopter312 | yes |
| 04:29.26 | roflcopter312 | so the answer would be no then? |
| 04:30.15 | blackstar | the best answer i could give you would be to find other browsers which use the KHTML render engine |
| 04:30.37 | msx | blackstar: anyway, i see no point in use windows myself as i have all my needs well covered with F/LOSS systems :) |
| 04:30.48 | msx | *using |
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| 04:31.02 | blackstar | i only use it for games, i put gentoo on everything else and use that most of the time |
| 04:31.09 | blackstar | gentoo + KDE is bliss |
| 04:31.20 | msx | awesome |
| 04:31.45 | msx | i like gentoo/funtoo, i just don't have the patience to compile _everything_ ;) |
| 04:31.53 | naacals | ugh. lol dont quote my stupid comments. its bad enough i said them once |
| 04:32.09 | blackstar | i have a fast desktop but my laptop is slow, i just leave it on overnight lol |
| 04:32.10 | msx | naacals: ?? lol |
| 04:32.34 | msx | you guys surely aren't cold on winter |
| 04:32.36 | msx | xD |
| 04:33.05 | roflcopter312 | What would i need for the fans to run at normal speed instead of full speed all the time? |
| 04:33.41 | blackstar | in your computer case? |
| 04:33.50 | msx | roflcopter312: hi, that's a bit complex to answer and depends a lot on what OS you run and on what HW |
| 04:34.12 | blackstar | just buy a fan controller and put it in a drive bay |
| 04:34.18 | naacals | msx: the plasmaboard being like a WM controlling the widgets. lol |
| 04:34.34 | roflcopter312 | debian, intel haswell. |
| 04:34.56 | naacals | oh and i believe win8 had a start button since day one. it was an option that you had to enable in settings to get it in the "Desktop" |
| 04:35.15 | msx | cpufreq/cpupower, acpi, laptop-mode-tools, disabling your DIS gpu if you don't use it too much, using specific tools if you use a thinkpad laptop... there's a lot of approach :P |
| 04:35.18 | msx | *s |
| 04:35.47 | naacals | i didnt care for the start button. i dont need it. i use win8 for my social networks, news, youtube, email, calander alerts, etc.. real computing i use my linux :) |
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| 04:38.05 | blackstar | I used win8 for about 15 minutes in a virtual machine and gave up because there were so many things I knew how to do in win7 that were moved and made needlessly complicated |
| 04:38.34 | phobos_anomaly | naacals: I wouldn't entrust windows to do any of that stuff reliably. |
| 04:38.40 | roflcopter312 | msx: it is not an laptop though. |
| 04:39.27 | msx | phobos_anomaly: and I would add nor any other privative system that can't be audited |
| 04:39.29 | blackstar | haswell just runs hot, if you have the stock cooler you might want to buy a cheap aftermarket one |
| 04:39.47 | naacals | blackstar: how well did the touch aspect perform in the virtual machine? did metro scroll smoothly? |
| 04:40.01 | msx | roflcopter312: do you know about cpupower/cpufreq and powertop? |
| 04:40.05 | phobos_anomaly | msx: No argument here. |
| 04:40.06 | roflcopter312 | blackstar: it runs full speed with the fans in debian but not in windows. It runs at 28C degrees |
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| 04:40.42 | msx | roflcopter312: what are your gpu? |
| 04:40.50 | msx | is your HW hybrid? |
| 04:41.21 | blackstar | oh, if that's the case you probably need to set up sensors |
| 04:41.30 | phobos_anomaly | That almost sounds like an ATI/AMD gpu |
| 04:41.32 | blackstar | i didn't have it as touch, it was with mouse and keyboard |
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| 04:42.07 | roflcopter312 | It is "Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220" chipset on the motherboard. Intel i5 cpu and an nvidia 660 running the neuvueau driver. |
| 04:42.12 | blackstar | it was just a pain with having things like control panel redone and shut down being hidden |
| 04:42.28 | phobos_anomaly | oh nouveau, that explains it. |
| 04:42.40 | blackstar | oh, it's your GPU fan that's going too fast? |
| 04:42.46 | roflcopter312 | nope |
| 04:42.48 | roflcopter312 | cpu fan |
| 04:43.01 | roflcopter312 | and case fans |
| 04:43.02 | blackstar | it should have a 4 pin PWM connector on the motherboard |
| 04:43.20 | blackstar | it is probably not being detected in linux |
| 04:43.40 | blackstar | however you may be able to get away with changing some settings in BIOS/UEFI and fixing it that way |
| 04:44.03 | blackstar | I haven't used new UEFIs yet but the settings used to be in the PC Health section |
| 04:44.08 | roflcopter312 | ok ill give it a go... it is just such an hassle to find a keyboard that works with the bios/uefi.. |
| 04:44.18 | blackstar | it might be easier to just let BIOS handle it instead of the OS |
| 04:44.22 | msx | roflcopter312: i asume you're running wheezy, am i right? |
| 04:44.28 | blackstar | yeah uefi is a pain |
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| 04:44.42 | blackstar | there might be a module you need to load or something too |
| 04:44.48 | roflcopter312 | wheezy with a few ncurses packages (like weechat) from jessie. |
| 04:45.10 | msx | roflcopter312: "I just installed wheeezy 64bit (kernel 3.2.0.4) and the fans (CPU fan and the two fans powered by the MB) are running at full speed." |
| 04:45.19 | msx | roflcopter312: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/06/msg01425.html |
| 04:45.36 | msx | tl;dr but it seems is a known issue |
| 04:45.41 | roflcopter312 | oh ok |
| 04:45.43 | msx | may be it's already adressed |
| 04:47.34 | roflcopter312 | ill give a reboot a shot now. |
| 04:53.37 | msx | hope hi solve that, it's kinda shitty to use a computer with a Jumbo's turbine next to your ears :P |
| 04:53.48 | msx | f*ck, *he |
| 04:55.46 | blackstar | lol, I am an overclocker, if the fans are not full speed you can raise voltages and clock speeds |
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| 04:56.50 | msx | oh man, compiling all your desktop once a month with such loud noise!? that would drive me crazy, lol |
| 04:57.47 | blackstar | haha, I grew out of that thought and went water cooling |
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| 04:58.10 | msx | hahah |
| 04:58.18 | msx | yeah, water cooling rulez |
| 04:58.33 | blackstar | in HS I had a setup so loud it could be heard downstairs with the door on my room closed |
| 04:59.18 | msx | hahah, that's what i was talking about, lol!! |
| 05:00.02 | msx | blackstar: here, have a look at this video, specially for you (and check the year when they got that speed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ApQS12ZYi4 |
| 05:00.18 | blackstar | those were good times though, people were like "lol wtf do you need a 4ghz pentium 4 for!" |
| 05:01.26 | msx | ha, i once date to think: "holy sh1t, i have a 40mb hard disk, i would never ever fill it!" |
| 05:01.30 | msx | *dare |
| 05:01.36 | thiago | I used to think that of my 120 MB disk |
| 05:01.43 | thiago | then the 1.7 GB disk |
| 05:01.49 | msx | haha |
| 05:01.55 | thiago | I've been pretty good with my 160 GB SSD, though |
| 05:02.09 | blackstar | haha, i wasn't around for that |
| 05:02.09 | thiago | around 1/3rd free for the last year |
| 05:02.12 | blackstar | i do remember 1GB HD |
| 05:02.20 | blackstar | and then getting another and being like "WOAHHH" |
| 05:02.37 | msx | yeah, i know the feeling xD |
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| 05:03.27 | blackstar | now I have terabytes and I have no idea how I can use up so much space |
| 05:05.00 | msx | what the,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktSDj7V8ZLE "CD exploding 23.000 RPM" - oh crap, i'm already trapped in a youtube's friday night |
| 05:05.30 | msx | blackstar: but today we have the almighty cloud that helps a lot |
| 05:05.45 | blackstar | helps NSA get your files ;) |
| 05:05.55 | msx | for example, one of the services i use, copy.com, gives me 117GB only with AES encryption |
| 05:06.00 | msx | blackstar: lol |
| 05:06.25 | msx | i don't post sensitive that _anywhere_ |
| 05:06.31 | thiago | copy.com's client is Qt-based |
| 05:06.34 | msx | gosh, *data |
| 05:06.35 | blackstar | i don't either but it still irks me |
| 05:06.51 | thiago | msx: do you trust their client to only encrypt with your key, no master key? |
| 05:06.55 | msx | thiago: and runs very, very smooth |
| 05:07.21 | blackstar | qt is great |
| 05:07.25 | msx | thiago: as a rule of dumb, i don't trust none of them |
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| 05:07.46 | msx | just why the information i upload there or anywhere else is trivial |
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| 05:08.43 | thiago | you can always just encrypt the files yourself before uploading |
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| 05:09.12 | msx | exactly |
| 05:11.02 | msx | btw, have anyone here knows kepas? i'm having a hard time trying it to use my custom icons i provide at compile time |
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| 05:15.07 | msx | roflcopter312: so? how did it go? |
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| 05:15.57 | roflcopter312 | nothing happened with the cpufreq and probings. But i set it silent in bios instead of auto and it is a little bit quieter but not much. |
| 05:17.15 | msx | roflcopter312: i fear you will just need to take your time at debian's support places and search there |
| 05:17.17 | thiago | check your CPU clocks: |
| 05:17.23 | roflcopter312 | yeah |
| 05:17.30 | thiago | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq |
| 05:17.36 | thiago | are they at the low level? |
| 05:17.44 | msx | roflcopter312: at least you now know where to look ;) |
| 05:17.47 | roflcopter312 | 3001000 |
| 05:17.54 | thiago | doesn't look low to me |
| 05:17.58 | thiago | 3 GHz + turbo |
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| 05:18.13 | thiago | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 05:18.16 | thiago | what's the governor? |
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| 05:18.36 | roflcopter312 | ondemand on all four of them. |
| 05:18.43 | thiago | ok |
| 05:18.47 | thiago | does top show the CPU in use? |
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| 05:19.12 | roflcopter312 | htop whos 0% usage. |
| 05:19.15 | roflcopter312 | shows* |
| 05:19.23 | thiago | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/*_min_freq |
| 05:19.28 | thiago | are all the numbers the same? |
| 05:19.40 | roflcopter312 | 800000 |
| 05:19.47 | thiago | all of them? |
| 05:20.25 | roflcopter312 | first line 800000, second 3001000. And the same on all four. |
| 05:20.35 | roflcopter312 | so it is eight lines. |
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| 05:20.44 | roflcopter312 | alternating between the two |
| 05:20.52 | thiago | ok, looks like ondemand wasn't configured properly |
| 05:21.04 | roflcopter312 | ok? |
| 05:21.13 | thiago | tee <<<800000 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq |
| 05:21.33 | roflcopter312 | 800000 |
| 05:21.40 | thiago | then check the two cat commands again |
| 05:21.45 | thiago | current frequency and min frequency |
| 05:22.22 | roflcopter312 | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq = 800000 on all of them now. |
| 05:22.41 | thiago | ok, now it's configured properly |
| 05:22.46 | thiago | your fan speed should lower |
| 05:23.21 | roflcopter312 | does those settings stick? since i guess i would have to enable automatic fan control again in the BIOS to get the effect. |
| 05:23.40 | msx | roflcopter312: add it to a boot script like /etc/rc.local |
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| 05:24.00 | thiago | no, they're lost on reboot |
| 05:24.12 | thiago | looks like your distro isn't configuring the ondemand governor properly |
| 05:24.54 | roflcopter312 | i only have to add "tee <<<800000 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq" to rc.local, right? |
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| 05:26.27 | thiago | provided it's already configured to ondemand |
| 05:28.03 | msx | roflcopter312: since /etc/rc.local is run as root you may as well use echo instead of tee, but it's okay |
| 05:28.20 | thiago | echo can't print to more than one file |
| 05:28.45 | msx | yes, that's right |
| 05:31.29 | roflcopter312 | ok brb rebooting again |
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| 05:56.22 | roflcopter5830 | ok. i am back |
| 05:57.12 | roflcopter5830 | I did install the 325 nvidia-glx package from "experimental" as well as add the tee line to the boot process. Now it is very quiet. |
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| 05:59.47 | roflcopter5830 | thanks for all yourt help |
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| 06:05.19 | roflcopter5830 | btw does anyone have a plasma theme to recommend that fits with the default oxygen style? All i got is some ugly black ones that came with the desktop. |
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| 06:09.06 | msx | roflcopter5830: do you like darker or lighter ones? |
| 06:09.33 | msx | roflcopter5830: "I did install the 325 nvidia-glx package from "experimental" as well as add the tee line to the boot process. Now it is very quiet." AWESOME! |
| 06:09.43 | msx | glad you solved it friend! |
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| 06:25.57 | roflcopter5830 | i have another strange problem though. But i guess it might not be suited for #kde. |
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| 06:26.29 | roflcopter5830 | pulseaudio finds no sound hardware but if i remove pa. it works fine. |
| 06:26.39 | roflcopter5830 | using only alsa that is. |
| 06:26.58 | roflcopter5830 | msx: i like themes that looks like the rest of the ui and not flat or black. |
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| 06:30.52 | roflcopter5830 | in what folder is the themes stored? I uninstalled the ones i have downloaded through the ui earlier, but htey are still in the list. |
| 06:32.34 | roflcopter5830 | i am guessing somewhere in .kde |
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| 06:40.03 | msx | roflcopter5830: lol sorry i was changing the layout of my desktop |
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| 06:40.32 | msx | i don't know of any other desktop environment that gives its users so much freedom and flexibility, kde is simply amazing |
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| 06:41.56 | msx | roflcopter5830: depending on your distribution check this places: ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/, ~/.kde4/share/apps/desktoptheme and /usr/share/app/desktoptheme |
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| 06:43.22 | msx | blackstar: seems your connection is a bit jumpy |
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| 07:00.02 | blackstar | msx: playing with xorg and breaking things trying to fix TF2 native issues |
| 07:00.58 | blackstar | another day another learning experience |
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| 07:06.03 | msx | blackstar: lol |
| 07:06.27 | blackstar | I get 30 to 90fps in gentoo and 200+ in windows, i'm doing something horribly wrong |
| 07:06.33 | blackstar | other games in WINE run horribly too |
| 07:06.34 | msx | on the bright side, roflcopter5830 was able to finally silent their fans - without firing his shotgun! |
| 07:06.48 | blackstar | but I'm quite sure it's a gentoo problem and not a KDE problem as KDE is buttery smooth |
| 07:06.55 | blackstar | well that's good |
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| 07:07.46 | msx | blackstar: i remember reading some benchmarks time ago, i don't remember if they were on phoronix (yes, i know!) but indeed kde showed the best performance of all F/LOSS desktops |
| 07:08.41 | msx | blackstar: moreover, when steam announced their client for linux and the cooperative work with nvidia engineers, they found that linux had an impressive potential regarding FPS over windows |
| 07:09.16 | msx | and that was just the beginning and on X11, can't imagine what will happen with wayland/weston |
| 07:09.47 | msx | blackstar: what gpu do you have? |
| 07:09.49 | blackstar | I don't doubt it at all |
| 07:10.01 | blackstar | i came to Gentoo to escape crippleAMD function in compilers |
| 07:10.09 | blackstar | i just don't have something configured right |
| 07:10.30 | blackstar | my games are 3 times faster in windows and no one else is really getting results like that |
| 07:10.38 | blackstar | even if they have KDE + AMD GPU like I do |
| 07:10.52 | rindolf | blackstar: crippleAMD? Isn't it only an ICC thing? |
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| 07:11.10 | blackstar | meh, I've seen a lot of goofy things happen even without ICC |
| 07:11.24 | blackstar | i saw 60%+ speed up with LAME but I'm not sure if it's with ICC or not |
| 07:11.36 | blackstar | i think MS compiler sucks for AMD too |
| 07:11.45 | blackstar | Windows and Intel are all in bed with each other |
| 07:12.30 | msx | blackstar: i presume you're running the privative graphic stack in orther to squeeze out the most of your games. I'm quite happy with the opensource modules but that's because i don't play with my laptop. |
| 07:12.32 | rindolf | blackstar: well, I was talking about gcc too. |
| 07:12.53 | blackstar | gcc 4.8 has been fantastic for me |
| 07:13.07 | blackstar | i have an FX 8350 with bdver2 cflags |
| 07:13.18 | blackstar | yeah I am running fglrx on this but I am using radeon driver on my laptop |
| 07:13.39 | msx | humm holy f*ck then |
| 07:14.16 | msx | usually catalyst does a decent job |
| 07:14.33 | blackstar | gonna have to hunt down what i'm missing |
| 07:14.44 | blackstar | i didn't have the libraries for st3c compression installed before |
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| 07:14.52 | blackstar | i installed them but it didn't seem to help |
| 07:14.59 | blackstar | i'm assuming the problem is something along the lines of that |
| 07:15.15 | msx | blackstar: may be you need to recompile something to make them work? |
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| 07:15.47 | blackstar | i'm not sure, I'll figure it out eventually |
| 07:16.08 | blackstar | when I started i would break my DE every update and now I've learned enough to handle almost everything fine |
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| 07:16.22 | blackstar | well started with gentoo |
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| 07:17.35 | msx | blackstar: since you love compile everything i'm sure you will appreciate these two little guys if you don't know them already: colormake and colorgcc, http://bre.klaki.net/programs/colormake/ and http://schlueters.de/colorgcc.html |
| 07:17.50 | blackstar | I saw that in GCC 4.9 :) |
| 07:18.25 | msx | they surely make the compiling of anything a work of art :D |
| 07:18.52 | blackstar | that's good, because I will have a lot of time to admire it |
| 07:19.00 | msx | hahahahah |
| 07:19.30 | msx | now there's another reason to switch to gentoo/funtoo xD |
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| 09:08.40 | rdunklau | Hello. I'd like to know if it is possible to configure KDE to NOT resolve domain names on the proxy side, but rather locally ? |
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| 10:49.59 | mase76 | hi! kde is very unstable on my armhf netbook. applications crash randomly, even plasma. ok, i have only 512mb of ram, but only 250mb are used. |
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| 10:51.18 | mase76 | looks more like an architecture problem. |
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| 12:21.30 | BluesKaj | HI all |
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| 13:49.15 | roflcopter5830 | good morning |
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| 14:21.24 | roflcopter5830 | what can i do when flashplayer shines though other windows. Like yakuake and areas with fonts. |
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| 14:23.17 | roflcopter5830 | ok enabling system effects worked |
| 14:25.09 | roflcopter5830 | also, is there a skype plugin for telepathy? |
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| 15:02.34 | randd | hi, is there any way i can close a windows by middle clicking on it in task manager (on a panel) |
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| 15:06.25 | brli | randd: right clock on he title bar |
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| 15:06.40 | brli | More Action/Window manager setting/Action |
| 15:07.39 | randd | brli: could you explain more |
| 15:08.42 | brli | randd: are you in the last step? |
| 15:09.02 | brli | you should see a section about title bar |
| 15:09.23 | brli | randd: the first sentense is a mess... |
| 15:09.32 | brli | right click on the title bar |
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| 15:10.42 | randd | brli: yes there is a tab for 'titlebar action' |
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| 15:11.45 | brli | below should be some setting about mouse action, do it at your fever :) |
| 15:11.54 | randd | brli: ok found the middle click setting, but its when we click on the titlebar |
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| 15:12.25 | randd | i want window to be close when we click on its entry in the panel |
| 15:13.06 | brli | randd: you mean from task manager? |
| 15:13.12 | randd | brli: yes |
| 15:13.21 | brli | then go to its setting by right click on it |
| 15:13.34 | randd | ok |
| 15:13.35 | brli | I don't know what you're using though |
| 15:13.49 | randd | i m on kde 4.10 on gentoo |
| 15:14.09 | brli | nope, I mean what task manager are you using |
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| 15:14.56 | randd | its the default, whatever comes by default on the panel |
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| 15:16.45 | brli | randd: i'm afraid but there seems no such configuration |
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| 15:17.14 | randd | brli: yes, it seems like that |
| 15:17.32 | randd | brli: but thanks for the other option, that is pretty close to what i want |
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| 16:05.08 | realnot | hi guys, which is a good archive manager for kde? |
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| 16:08.32 | BluesKaj | realnot, uhmm, dolphin |
| 16:08.46 | Xmorph | can someone help me to solve this "ativity" stuf? i always lose my desktop settiong when logout |
| 16:09.05 | Xmorph | i don't know why, didn't touched anything |
| 16:09.15 | Xmorph | it's kde 4.11.1 |
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| 16:24.10 | realnot | BluesKaj: there's no option from menu like "make archive" |
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| 16:26.31 | realnot | BluesKaj: i used: tar -cjf foo.tar.bz2 foo |
| 16:26.52 | realnot | for example under gnome there's file-roller |
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| 16:33.31 | BluesKaj | realnot, archiving isn't necesarily having to compress files , just storing them in an area the's easily accessed like an outboard drive |
| 16:33.55 | BluesKaj | should suffice |
| 16:34.27 | BluesKaj | you can use fileroller on kde if you want , realnot |
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| 16:37.51 | realnot | BluesKaj: ok |
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| 16:39.18 | realnot | BluesKaj: eix say: Description: Archive manager for GNOME, so u thought was only for gnome.. |
| 16:40.09 | realnot | i have to go, i'll be back in 20 min, sorry! |
| 16:40.32 | BluesKaj | no reactormonk , one can run gnome apps in kde and vice-versa , some gtk-libs will be installed that's all |
| 16:40.44 | BluesKaj | oops |
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| 16:52.13 | ezakimak_work | how can I change the default size that konquerer opens with? |
| 16:52.38 | ezakimak_work | for some reason it's been opening to a small window every time and it's getting really annoying |
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| 16:55.03 | realnot | BluesKaj: here :P |
| 16:56.07 | BluesKaj | realnot , one can run gnome apps in kde and vice-versa , some gtk-libs will be installed |
| 16:58.11 | realnot | i know, i don't want an enveironment with thousand packages... |
| 16:58.37 | realnot | *environment |
| 16:58.57 | BluesKaj | ezakimak_work, rightclick on the titlebar, choose 'more actions' , then special application settings, then 'size and position' tab, then check size and position and choose 'remember' |
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| 17:01.08 | BluesKaj | realnot, it won't install any unecessary gtk libraries |
| 17:01.38 | BluesKaj | realnot,, look in muon |
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| 17:03.56 | realnot | BluesKaj: true, except for gconf http://bpaste.net/show/e2UOhkgRkpn9dFb0Kb53/ |
| 17:05.08 | BluesKaj | realnot, ok then if it bothers you so much don't install , it's your choice |
| 17:06.00 | realnot | BluesKaj: i found kde-base/ark :) |
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| 17:07.52 | realnot | sound better than filer-roller under kde, right? |
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| 17:10.08 | BluesKaj | realnot, dunno, i don't compress my stored files ..i have plenty of room on the external drive. |
| 17:13.44 | realnot | BluesKaj: ... is not just compression, but sometimes i need to send the projects via mail, it's a way to collect the data |
| 17:13.52 | realnot | btw, thanks for your time :) |
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| 17:59.07 | mase76 | hey! anybody can help me with kde-telepathy? i already filed this as bug. the state after booting is always offline, even when set last state is checked. sip via asterisk is not possible. i only see "ringing", but nothing happens. the asterisk log shows no activities. |
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| 18:10.01 | ovidiu-florin | mase76: I |
| 18:10.12 | ovidiu-florin | I'm not sure I understand your problem |
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| 18:10.53 | mase76 | first thing is, i am always offline after kde start. i have to open the contactlist and change my state. |
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| 18:12.13 | mase76 | second is, i cannot do sip calls via an asterisk server. only registration works. when doing a call, asterisk does not get any request. |
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| 20:18.03 | vixxo | hi guys, I'm a tinytinyRSS user, on gnome there is Liferea that support feedsync with TTRSS but on KDE Akregator does not. Is there any alternative ? |
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| 20:21.10 | Sho_ | vixxo: there's dev branch of akregator with ttrss sync |
| 20:22.02 | vixxo | Sho_: how can I get It ? |
| 20:22.30 | Sho_ | you'd hve to build it yourself, it's complicated |
| 20:24.12 | vixxo | Sho_: I know that but, what is the mirror ? |
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| 20:24.49 | Sho_ | vixxo: the akregator_port branches of kdepimlibs and kdepim on git.kde.org |
| 20:25.59 | vixxo | oh, kdepimlibs that's gonna be huge |
| 20:26.01 | vixxo | :/ |
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