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| 06:29.46 | sjihs | kmail marks a mail as *read* once an unread mail is selected. Can kmail be configured to mark a mail as read only when explicitly selecting the option from the menu? |
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| 06:35.18 | Jucato | sjihs: Settings -> Configure KMail -> Misc page -> uncheck [ ] Mark selected message as read after: |
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| 06:36.17 | sjihs | Jucato: Thank you! |
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| 06:37.57 | Jucato | you're welcome |
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| 06:41.50 | sjihs | Jucato: Do you happen to know where kmail stores the maildirs. I searched under ~/.kde. But i couldn't find the maildirs |
| 06:42.08 | Jucato | sorry no. maybe you can ask in #kontact |
| 06:43.29 | sjihs | Jucato: ok |
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| 07:58.55 | kriko | hello. anyone ever had a mouse cursor stuttering when you open multiple tabs in chrome? I think it might be kde-gtk related. |
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| 08:29.06 | SilverCode | does anyoen have any idea why kmail is sending emails as 1 hour in the past? |
| 08:29.31 | SilverCode | I've checked that all my timezone settings are correct |
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| 08:36.27 | Jucato | have you checked with the mail server you are using? you can also try asking in #kontact |
| 08:38.47 | SilverCode | everyone else who doesn't use kmail and sends through the same mail server has the correct time, so I don't think it is the server |
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| 09:08.23 | ovidiu-florin | SilverCode: try testing with a different mail client |
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| 09:09.03 | ovidiu-florin | IMO there's something wrong with the timezone settings |
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| 09:18.30 | SilverCode | yeah, turns out $TZ was being set incorrectly somewhere |
| 09:18.42 | SilverCode | all other timezone settings are 100% correct |
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| 09:19.07 | SilverCode | but something, somewhere was setting $TZ to different timezone |
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| 09:19.38 | SilverCode | still don't know what did it though, or why KMail is relying on that instead of /etc/timezone |
| 09:19.47 | maova | hi guys |
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| 09:20.24 | maova | do you know why if I want to use a default application for .pro files (are text files) and .txt files or however not .pro files, it is not possible to use two different applications? |
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| 09:20.55 | maova | with GNOME it was possible |
| 09:22.22 | SilverCode | GAH! What the hell is setting $TZ? |
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| 09:28.16 | neverendingo | maova: then the mimetype is probably not separately known. check system settings, mime types for this file ending and if missing, add it with your preferred editor |
| 09:29.09 | maova | neverendingo: I have added a new type in File Associations |
| 09:29.18 | maova | it should work |
| 09:29.21 | neverendingo | file associations... right |
| 09:29.55 | maova | (in theory) |
| 09:30.04 | neverendingo | and practically? |
| 09:30.16 | maova | practically no :) |
| 09:30.37 | neverendingo | does the wrong application open or do text files now open in the wrong one? |
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| 09:30.59 | maova | yep |
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| 09:31.23 | neverendingo | yep means both of it? |
| 09:31.45 | maova | I'll explain it better: |
| 09:32.00 | maova | I need to open all the .pro files with qt-creator and all the other txt files with emacs |
| 09:32.25 | neverendingo | and what of those 2 gets opened on pro files? |
| 09:32.34 | maova | I have added a rule in File Association where all the *.pro files should be open with qtcreator |
| 09:33.07 | maova | once done that, all the txt files where associated to qtcreator, even the normal txt files.. don't know why |
| 09:33.45 | neverendingo | did you check *.txt, and if qtcreator was added there as well? |
| 09:34.12 | maova | yep, from File Associations it seems ok |
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| 09:34.17 | maova | it's very strange |
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| 09:37.04 | neverendingo | maova: i assume you added it under "text"? |
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| 09:37.22 | maova | neverendingo: yep |
| 09:37.28 | maova | maybe I can try to add it in another place |
| 09:37.31 | neverendingo | try Application instead |
| 09:37.41 | maova | neverendingo: okk |
| 09:37.47 | neverendingo | just tested, and it indeed altered plain text as well |
| 09:38.02 | neverendingo | for whatever reason |
| 09:39.42 | maova | neverendingo: no success |
| 09:39.53 | maova | so it didn't work in your case too |
| 09:39.56 | maova | maybe it's a bug |
| 09:40.29 | neverendingo | sounds a bit like it... |
| 09:40.36 | neverendingo | but you can try something other as well |
| 09:40.43 | neverendingo | search for x-designer |
| 09:41.05 | maova | ok |
| 09:41.06 | neverendingo | it should have the file ending *.ui already set to qtcreator |
| 09:41.12 | neverendingo | just add *.pro |
| 09:41.30 | maova | yep but the problems is that I need it for the .pro ones |
| 09:41.39 | maova | neverendingo: ah ok :) |
| 09:41.57 | maova | neverendingo: thank you, I'll try it |
| 09:42.05 | neverendingo | good luck :P |
| 09:42.12 | maova | XD |
| 09:43.11 | maova | neverendingo: no luck :( |
| 09:43.21 | neverendingo | sorry to hear... |
| 09:43.51 | maova | it looks like all the plain txt files are being treated like one.. no problem, you've been really nice to help me :) |
| 09:44.18 | neverendingo | considering i have several plain text files that are even opened by a gnome app i am sure there must be a way ;) |
| 09:45.04 | maova | neverendingo: that's an interesting thing :) |
| 09:45.15 | maova | going to google around |
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| 09:57.09 | neverendingo | maova: found it |
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| 09:57.41 | maova | neverendingo: cooooooooooooool |
| 09:57.42 | maova | how |
| 09:57.43 | maova | ? |
| 09:58.07 | neverendingo | add application/vnd.nokia.qt.qmakeprofile, then add *.pro and associate Qt designer. apply. and also restart dolphin (or whatever filemanager) |
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| 09:59.24 | maova | vnd.nokia.qt.qmakeprofile is just a name you invent? |
| 09:59.36 | neverendingo | no, i have that from qt creator itself :D |
| 10:00.08 | maova | uhm |
| 10:00.14 | maova | I haven't it :D |
| 10:00.34 | maova | uhm |
| 10:00.46 | maova | I m going to google a bit |
| 10:00.48 | neverendingo | qt creator has some file associations itself, which obviously don't apply |
| 10:01.04 | neverendingo | and yes, you need to create that association yourself in system settings |
| 10:01.11 | neverendingo | maova: ^ |
| 10:01.48 | maova | uhm, are you saying that I can call it whatever name I like? |
| 10:02.00 | neverendingo | obviously not, else my first test wouldn't have failed |
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| 10:02.10 | neverendingo | so i suggest to use exactly that name |
| 10:02.27 | maova | neverendingo: so maybe my qtcreator didn't create any of these associations |
| 10:02.33 | maova | kk |
| 10:02.39 | maova | going to try it |
| 10:02.40 | maova | thx again |
| 10:02.41 | neverendingo | maybe, but mine did, and still didn'T work |
| 10:03.02 | neverendingo | so i needed to "copy" that to system settings as well |
| 10:03.20 | maova | got it |
| 10:07.00 | maova | neverendingo: nope, it doesn't seem working |
| 10:07.42 | neverendingo | maova: then i can't really help, sorry, that was at least what made it work for me (4.11rc2) |
| 10:07.54 | maova | neverendingo: don't worry, I'll find a way |
| 10:08.00 | maova | thank you for you help |
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| 10:17.57 | lineinthesand | When I paste text containing control sequences to konsole running a zsh, the control sequences are interpreted - is there any way to have them pasted literally? I.e. this url www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DT618KMIvw contains a '5D' which is interpreted as 'one word backward' |
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| 10:31.12 | lineinthesand | Never mind, it was a zsh issue. |
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| 11:44.29 | Jucato | ovidiu-florin: #kde-docs I think. or #kde-doc not sure which of the two |
| 11:46.08 | ovidiu-florin | the first one |
| 11:46.10 | ovidiu-florin | thank you |
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| 13:19.10 | ellipsis753 | Hello. Is it possible to stop minimised windows in the taskbar having there names and icons grayed out? This seems to be a new features but I can't get rid of it. Thank you. |
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| 13:28.42 | rdieter | ellipsis753: i don't think so. indeed, it's newer feature to give this visual cue to minimized apps |
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| 13:30.02 | ellipsis753 | rdieter, That sucks. Well thanks anyway. I'll have to try find a new windows manager as I can't find any of my minimised windows since they added this. :'( |
| 13:31.14 | Verge | Fix your theme |
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| 13:34.27 | ellipsis753 | Verge, I've made disabled text and icons brighter but I'm worried this is going to make programs that use the disabled theme for stuff that's actually disabled kind of unusable. Is there a way around this? |
| 13:34.57 | Verge | Around what |
| 13:35.00 | Verge | You already came around it |
| 13:36.06 | ellipsis753 | Verge, To make the taskbar look normal without having other programs that use the same theme look totally wrong? |
| 13:36.46 | Verge | Use another widget |
| 13:38.00 | ellipsis753 | Thank you. :) Yes, I will. |
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| 15:18.50 | BluesKaj | is there a KDE manual ? |
| 15:20.06 | RamchandraApte | the help center has help pages for each application, not sure if that would qualify as a KDE manual |
| 15:20.16 | RamchandraApte | s/the help center/help application/ |
| 15:20.42 | RamchandraApte | there is a document in help that says, "KDE fundamentals" |
| 15:21.19 | RamchandraApte | BluesKaj: ^ |
| 15:23.11 | BluesKaj | thanks RamchandraApte |
| 15:24.25 | RamchandraApte | it was really easy to answer it, I just popped up the help app and found the document |
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| 15:26.47 | BluesKaj | wel , I was actually looking for a Kubuntu manual , Kubuntu is totally overshadowed by ubuntu in any searches and it's very annoying since the 2 OSs are growing further apart , almost daily |
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| 15:39.22 | RamchandraApte | BluesKaj: you can use -ubuntu to hide ubuntu results in google |
| 15:39.42 | RamchandraApte | why do you want a kubuntu manual, wondering ;) |
| 15:41.23 | BluesKaj | RamchandraApte, because if oine serches for kubuntu , one gets ubuntu which use different desktops unity/gnome , the difference is rather obvious once one starts looking at the tutorials |
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| 15:43.42 | BluesKaj | RamchandraApte, kde on open suse and arch have more in common with kubun tu than ubuntu does , except for the cli and apt etc , most users use guis . |
| 15:45.56 | BluesKaj | actually a kde guide for kubuntu is more relavent than an ubuntu guide |
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| 16:43.14 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello, In the "X-KDE-Keywords", Can I replace the English comma "," to the Arabic comma "،" ? |
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| 16:46.12 | rdieter | Safa_[A_boy]: maybe, but only in select locale's, I'd suspect. This may be a better question for #kde-devel or #kde-i18n |
| 16:47.12 | Safa_[A_boy] | I didn't know that there is a channel for localization, Thanks ! |
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| 19:04.47 | AciD` | at one point I had a disk full, then all 3 session of dolphin crashed, no upon restart, my defined places aren't showing anymore. How come ? |
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| 19:04.55 | AciD` | now |
| 19:06.02 | AciD` | is dolphinrc the config file storing that info normally ? |
| 19:06.19 | AciD` | I could try to restore it from a previous backup but I'd like to be sure |
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| 19:10.45 | AciD` | ok, no differences are shown between the previous dolphinrc and the one I have now |
| 19:11.01 | AciD` | but personalized places aren't shown |
| 19:11.05 | AciD` | ping? |
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| 19:18.58 | uzer | hi, does anyone here have exp with kopete? |
| 19:19.56 | cb400f | better just ask your actual question |
| 19:21.09 | uzer | ksry, where do kopete plugins go?. |
| 19:21.29 | cb400f | did you install them with your package manager? |
| 19:21.38 | uzer | no ive made it from source |
| 19:21.44 | uzer | maked* |
| 19:22.19 | uzer | it installed in /usr/local/share/apps/kopete/ |
| 19:22.22 | uzer | but nothing is there |
| 19:22.35 | uzer | besides the plugin ofc |
| 19:23.35 | uzer | nvm it should be ~/.kde/share/apps |
| 19:23.38 | uzer | ithink |
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| 19:24.34 | ianda | if you use /usr/local/... you need to check $KDEDIRS, with my distro (kubuntu) this does not work out of the box |
| 19:25.21 | ianda | otherwise |
| 19:27.57 | uzer | what do .desktop files do in kde land |
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| 19:31.47 | Verge | They're app launchers |
| 19:32.07 | Verge | It's not KDE stuff but OpenDesktop.org-related |
| 19:32.10 | Verge | standard |
| 19:34.07 | uzer | yer it was a stupid question the moment i thought of it really. |
| 19:34.25 | uzer | anyway when making from source a kopete plugin it made this file /usr/local/lib/kde4/kopete_irc.so where does that go? |
| 19:34.30 | uzer | the folder is empty |
| 19:34.34 | uzer | besiddes the file ofc |
| 19:35.33 | uzer | when making a irc account in kopete it gave me this error. Cannot load the IRC protocol plugin. So ineed to place the *.so somewhere... but where |
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| 20:11.59 | uzer | anyone |
| 20:12.03 | uzer | lol |
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| 20:32.51 | pyBlob | I'm using openSuse 12.2 with KDE |
| 20:32.59 | jalcine | uzer: you tried dropping it in /usr/local/lib |
| 20:33.29 | pyBlob | I've got problems with my second control-bar I've put at the top with quickstart icons |
| 20:33.40 | uzer | not really |
| 20:33.46 | uzer | will check it out |
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| 20:34.07 | pyBlob | this control-bar does magically move anywhere on the screen, so that you have to point somewhere in the middle of the screen to open it |
| 20:34.31 | pyBlob | is there any way to stop this bug? |
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| 20:37.42 | killown | weird bug, after every reboot, when I login in kde it start the session then when it is supposed to show the desktop, it back to kdm then I login again and then it show the desktop |
| 20:40.05 | uzer | killown does the desktop spawn in VESA graphics? |
| 20:40.12 | uzer | or just full resolution |
| 20:41.06 | killown | uzer, full res |
| 20:41.31 | uzer | killown weird. you should check /var/log/ |
| 20:41.35 | uzer | for any xorg logs |
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| 20:42.43 | uzer | killown do you have compiz installed or any other desktop/compositing manager/ |
| 20:42.57 | uzer | besides kdm |
| 20:42.58 | killown | I have another weirdest bug, when I switch to a tty more than three times the system freezes |
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| 20:46.41 | uzer | killown what gpu? any other compisiting or window managers |
| 20:46.44 | uzer | ? |
| 20:47.13 | uzer | besides kdm |
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| 20:55.32 | pyBlob | anyone know, why the control-bar doesn't stay at the top of the screen? |
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| 20:55.43 | pyBlob | only page describing the problem but not giving any clues is this: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-de/2013-03/msg00178.html |
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| 20:59.04 | killown | uzer gtx580le |
| 20:59.24 | killown | it only have kde compositing enabled |
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| 21:00.14 | Moviuro | pyBlob: a bit more explanation, plz. What is the control-bar? |
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| 21:02.29 | pyBlob | I've created a control-bar on the top of the screen which contains several icons to start programs, this control-bar is configured to automatically hide itself (when disabling automatic-hide, the control-bar stays put at the position it currently is) |
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| 21:20.54 | pyBlob | Moviuro: any idea? |
| 21:21.43 | Moviuro | pyBlob: is it a plasmoid called "control-bar" or just a simple panel? |
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| 21:22.02 | Moviuro | pyBlob: highlight me plz, I'm multitasking ;) |
| 21:23.04 | pyBlob | Moviuro: I've created it using "rmb on desktop > add control-bar > add empty control-bar" |
| 21:23.36 | Moviuro | okay, so it's a "panel" in English ;) pyBlob |
| 21:23.45 | pyBlob | nice ... a panel =) |
| 21:23.58 | Moviuro | then, did you try to lock the widgets ? |
| 21:24.08 | Moviuro | rclick on desktop, lock widgets |
| 21:24.20 | Moviuro | pyBlob: you're German, right? |
| 21:25.11 | pyBlob | yes, but it doesn't matter whether I do lock widgets ... it always moves after some time to another place |
| 21:25.21 | pyBlob | yes, I'm German |
| 21:25.23 | Moviuro | yes, Kontrolleiste is "control bar" actually... |
| 21:25.29 | Moviuro | strange translation, though |
| 21:25.47 | Moviuro | well, take a llok at .kde/share/config/plasmarc |
| 21:26.12 | Moviuro | euh... not that one ^_^ |
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| 21:27.22 | Moviuro | .kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
| 21:27.43 | Moviuro | I think the plasma setup is held in there |
| 21:27.51 | Moviuro | are you uptodaten pyBlob? |
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| 21:28.09 | Moviuro | which KDE version have you got, also ? |
| 21:28.48 | pyBlob | KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" |
| 21:29.07 | Moviuro | ah... old ^_^ |
| 21:29.21 | Moviuro | a panel that keeps moving... |
| 21:29.43 | Moviuro | Is there a real probleme if you had to reconfigure plasma (== widgets & panels) |
| 21:29.57 | Moviuro | (& wallpaper & plasma theme) |
| 21:30.28 | pyBlob | what do you mean with "reconfigure plasma"? |
| 21:30.43 | Moviuro | because you could try to back your plasma settings up (don't know how "back up" works in English... easier in German) |
| 21:30.57 | Moviuro | and restart configurating it from scratch |
| 21:31.46 | pyBlob | ... you're German too? |
| 21:31.58 | Moviuro | you can find the relevant files to back up with $ find ~ -name 'plasma*' |
| 21:32.24 | Moviuro | nein pyBlob, ich bin ein Franzoser, aber spreche auch Deutsch ;) |
| 21:33.08 | Moviuro | Trotz allem kenne ich alle technische Wörter nicht, um einen Problem mit KDE zu beschreiben ;) |
| 21:34.16 | pyBlob | ok, da sind Dateien in .kde4/share/config/ |
| 21:34.17 | Moviuro | pyBlob: so the relevant files ($FILE), under config or share/apps should be moved to $FILE.bak while you are out of your KDE session |
| 21:34.51 | Moviuro | (you should logout and move the files from a tty) |
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| 21:35.46 | pyBlob | wow, I now know when that stupid bar moves oO |
| 21:36.09 | Moviuro | pyBlob: |
| 21:36.13 | pyBlob | when you dock a window to the top, the bar suddenly moves to the bottom edge of the window |
| 21:36.25 | Moviuro | weird |
| 21:36.44 | Moviuro | you're using openSUSE? If so, is there no repo with a more recent version of KDE ? |
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| 21:36.59 | Moviuro | (unless you want to stick with 4.8.5) |
| 21:37.29 | pyBlob | ... I'll have a look |
| 21:37.59 | pyBlob | what's the latest version? |
| 21:38.05 | Moviuro | 4.10.5 |
| 21:38.19 | Moviuro | 4.11.0 is due on August, 15th IIRC |
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| 21:38.33 | Moviuro | well, "due" isn't the appropriate word |
| 21:38.36 | Moviuro | planned |
| 21:42.22 | pyBlob | with the current setup repositories kde 4.8.5 is the latest version ... searching for another one |
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| 21:58.45 | Moviuro | pyBlob: did you try with a new user as well? |
| 21:59.04 | Moviuro | goto YaST, create a dummy user and switch session to this new user |
| 21:59.10 | Moviuro | try to repeat the bug |
| 21:59.54 | Moviuro | if it doesn't happen, then back up your plasma settings and restart from scratch. If it happens... cry a lot ;) |
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| 22:03.33 | pyBlob | since when does kde use windows-like glass panes oOO |
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| 22:06.53 | pyBlob | actually the desktop looks totally different now ... seems as if the old desktop still had some configs from 11.0 |
| 22:09.03 | pyBlob | Moviuro: I can't reproduce the bug anymore and the stuff runs more fluid ... now backing up configs from old user |
| 22:10.31 | Moviuro | pyBlob: make sure you activated the compositing for KWin |
| 22:10.40 | Moviuro | (for transparency and stuff) |
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| 22:25.12 | Moviuro | pyBlob: success ? |
| 22:25.46 | pyBlob | yep ... I think I'll disable "aero-style" though ;) |
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| 22:37.09 | Moviuro | pyBlob: depends on what you call it and how well it can serve your use :) I have kept one thing from aero: hot corner that hides everything. |
| 22:43.49 | pyBlob | Moviuro: where can I turn off that the control bars are transparent? |
| 22:45.20 | Moviuro | pyBlob: change plasma theme |
| 22:45.29 | Moviuro | pyBlob: or you'll lose every visual effect |
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| 22:45.54 | Moviuro | of which some are nice but some are absolutely mandatory (eg BeClock... <3) |
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| 23:24.29 | pyBlob | Moviuro: thank you for the help =) |
| 23:24.39 | Moviuro | yw pyBlob :) |
| 23:25.02 | Moviuro | pyBlob: would you share a screenshot now ? :) |
| 23:25.20 | pyBlob | just switched the computer off xD |
| 23:26.28 | Roey | hi |
| 23:26.35 | Roey | can I add comments to jpg files in KDE? |
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| 23:29.36 | Phr33d0m | Roey you can add comments (and other stuff) to any type of file in KDE |
| 23:29.46 | Roey | how |
| 23:29.57 | Phr33d0m | using dolphin? |
| 23:29.59 | Roey | and those comments appear only in KDE-lib apps don't they |
| 23:30.02 | Roey | I guess |
| 23:30.10 | Roey | JPEG files have a commetn field |
| 23:30.14 | Phr33d0m | they appear only in dolphin afaik |
| 23:30.17 | Roey | KDE hasn't really addressed this since at least 2009 |
| 23:30.23 | Phr33d0m | oh, about that... |
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| 23:30.29 | Phr33d0m | I misunderstood your question |
| 23:30.34 | Roey | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=83106 |
| 23:30.51 | Roey | I want to edit the comment field but gwenview/dolphin/kde appear not to have a way to edit that. |
| 23:33.10 | Roey | Phr33d0m: howdo I add a comment to a file in Dolphin? |
| 23:33.55 | Phr33d0m | using the semantic-desktop functionalities... in dolphin go to the file's properties and there's a tab named "Information" |
| 23:34.37 | Roey | ok I'm there... |
| 23:34.42 | Roey | where now? |
| 23:35.17 | Roey | Phr33d0m: I don't see anything for comments, not even in the "Configure..." |
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| 23:35.38 | Phr33d0m | Confi---? no, right click the file --> Properties --> tab: Information |
| 23:35.52 | Phr33d0m | if you don't have that then you probably haven't enabled nepomuk's semantic desktop |
| 23:36.39 | Roey | ok |
| 23:36.42 | Roey | let me see then... |
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| 23:37.36 | Roey | Phr33d0m: I just checked, it's all enabled |
| 23:37.50 | Phr33d0m | could you snapshot a file's Properties window? |
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| 23:45.29 | Roey | Phr33d0m: can i mai lit to you |
| 23:45.43 | Phr33d0m | just upload it at imgur.com and give me the link |
| 23:46.51 | Roey | k |
| 23:50.44 | Roey | Phr33d0m: http://imgur.com/G4hcgN1 |
| 23:51.26 | Phr33d0m | what KDE version btw? |
| 23:52.19 | Roey | 4.10.90 |
| 23:52.22 | Roey | apparently |
| 23:52.26 | Roey | I'm on Quantal |
| 23:52.51 | Roey | so 4.11 was backported to Quantal (13.04) from Raring Ringtail (kubuntu 13.10) |
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