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05:15.46fearedblisshello all. I recently installed KMail (from 4.10.4) and after adding my IMAP account, I noticed that KMail was syncing every single folder available. I unsubscribed from folders locally and server side but it still keeps pulling stuff
05:16.05fearedblissthis is running on a laptop so my cpu temperature is increasing and laptop becomes hot
05:16.35fearedblissI only left 1 folder checked which was inbox (and the inbox doesnt have many emails either)
05:16.50fearedblissso it shouldnt be syncing logs if I unchecked that folder locally and server side
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07:12.05murthyhello everyone
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07:56.13kaffeebohneHi. Is there a way to get the global menu back into a panel in 4.10.4?
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08:25.11swistak35Hi. If two windows are joined together (I mean, with these tabs, not sure how it's called in English), is it possible to tell KDE "treat them like one window"? In particular, I don't want to see both windows in my taskbar - is it possible?
08:26.44valorieswistak35: perhaps you can take a screenshot and upload it to an image server?
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08:29.29swistak35sure. Here it is: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/194421/zrzut14.png As you can see, I have opera and konsole joined together. But on the taskbar, I have both, but I would like to see only one.
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08:32.09valorieswistak35: interesting, but beyond my ability to help
08:33.14valoriemy taskbar works and looks somewhat similar, with both the active application showing, and the inactive as a somewhat grayed out tab
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08:37.15valorieswistak35: to be honest, I don't see how it would *work* any other way, for me at least
08:38.25valorieyou might try using opera in an browsing activity, and konsole as it's own activity, but still there has to be a way to switch back and forth
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09:53.23infHello, i have a couple of questions - is there any way to join all windows with some window-class into one tabbed window? this tabbed window grouping is called "Tab Group" in the codebase, is it? how shall i use "tabBefore/tabBehind" then? http://pastie.org/private/bikxrssk4qipncopjpzoma
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09:56.29infhow shall i use it in kwin scripts*
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10:15.33swistak35valorie: afair this behaviour is in fluxbox, that if two windows are connected, only one is appearing in taskbar, so I thought that maybe this feature is also in kde
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10:22.25infswistak35: i'm a little bit out of context, but i think you can achieve this grouping for specific applications with "Window rules"
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10:47.09mgnad78Hello , i'm trying to implement a OAuth2 Authentification for twitch.tv in an QML based Applet. I can load the Authentification Site into an QtWebKit (1.1) Webview. But when i click Authorize the Webview doesn't seem to redirect to the redirection url, even the javascript part behind the button seems to be executed since i can see the Authentification in the acording site on twitch. Can someone help or direct me to help / bugs ?
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10:48.35demonoid_mehello to all
10:48.39demonoid_mei have some problem
10:48.41demonoid_mewith my kde
10:49.02demonoid_mehow can i attach my old desktop with icons and folders
10:49.08demonoid_melike activity
10:49.30demonoid_mei mean i have folder Desktop and i wanna used this folder with all things
10:51.39demonoid_me????
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10:56.38ruedigerI have a problem with KMail. One folder only shows two recent messages and nothing else. Despite the folder containing a few hundred messages. They are still there on the imap server (checked with other clients). How can I tell KMail/Akonadi to reindex the folder?
10:56.55ruedigerKMail 4.10.3 (Kubuntu 13.04)
10:57.14ruediger(it works fine with the other folders)
10:59.12lionaneeshspacetime: ping!
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11:05.40BluesKajHey all
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11:18.16mgnad78Hi BluesKaj
11:18.40BluesKajhi mgnad78
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12:12.40TimberwolfI am trying to install kde 4.10 on Debian wheezy 32 bit. I get an error in kdesrc-build on everything it downloads/compiles. kde super build shows no errors but it doesn't install anything. I am very confused.
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12:51.02lionaneeshspacetime, You there?
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12:53.21Roberth1990Timberwolf: any specific reason you use debian?
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12:55.18do0ob_is there a kde webcam app?
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12:55.42Roberth1990Timberwolf: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=103091 maybe you could just install it from experimental
12:56.25einar77_workdo0ob_: the only one I can think is kamoso
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13:07.23TimberwolfRoberth1990: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=103091#p492779 it was removed.
13:09.10Roberth1990Timberwolf: oh well, but I would recommend you to use another distro if you want latest version of kde TBH
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13:13.54do0ob_i'm looking for a lightweight alternative to cheese
13:13.59Roberth1990Timberwolf: kubuntu should be the best option if you want a debianish enviroment
13:14.02do0ob_well a qt based alternative to cheese
13:14.20do0ob_Why would anyone want an alternative to debian? its perfect
13:14.27do0ob_rolling release distros are the best
13:15.04Roberth1990do0ob_: because they want a more recent kde release
13:15.35Roberth1990like me I only use debian on server, and arch on  my desktop since I want the latest vanilla kde desktop
13:15.46do0ob_is debian unstable getting more stable these days?
13:15.48TimberwolfRoberth1990: I'm not actually using debian wheezy, I'm using kali linux which is a modified wheezy for pen testing
13:15.58do0ob_uses arch too
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13:17.21Roberth1990Timberwolf: oh I see, what do you put in "modified for pen testing"?
13:17.55do0ob_penetration testing
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13:18.30do0ob_You could probably install the tools in any other distro
13:18.32TimberwolfRoberth1990: kali.org
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13:20.24Roberth1990Timberwolf: sounds like you would be better of to install the tools on another debianbased distro, like kubuntu
13:20.41Roberth1990seems like less work than compiling KDE
13:23.03do0ob_or just upgrade to unstable
13:23.14do0ob_sid is the best
13:23.54Timberwolfprobably right... I prefer Kubuntu anyway... I wasn't happy that when they went from backtrack to kali they stopped using ubuntu...
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13:25.24Roberth1990see that one
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13:25.40Roberth1990I am glad I use arch which is more predictable
13:26.37do0ob_but in arch you have to maintain it, i miss aptitude
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13:28.51Roberth1990rolling release and latest packages has its price
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13:29.02Roberth1990id rather maintain than being stuck with old packages
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13:29.39Roberth1990on desktop
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13:32.48Roberth1990and I find vanilla packages far more stable than anything else for desktop
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14:11.06do0obHow do i remove the previews in alt+tab?
14:11.36do0obi want to revert to list which kde used to have
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14:18.29Crendgrimdo0ob: system settings -> window behavior
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14:20.53do0obgot it, i was going through the settings in order
14:23.55do0obI think i'm going to use large icons from now on, its clearly the best
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14:29.05makismhello, plasma-desktop and/or kactivitymanagerd after some time of executing some io/cpu consuming program become unresponsive (must kill and restart both of them). anyone else noticed this? :-)
14:29.57makismi know there are countless factors that can lead to such behavior, just a query
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15:25.50Dark_lightIs there a quick way to set the video player application preference order not just for a file type but for all in one shot ?
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15:45.58rindolfDark_light: hi.
15:46.10rindolfDark_light: maybe by writing a dbus-using script.
15:46.20Phr33d0mDark_light not an easy way, no
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15:47.58Dark_lightok
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15:54.25alix_when i start my computer, 1.1GB/2GB is used; right now, after opening chromium, it's 1.4GB/2GB; what can i do to reduce that? i'm on kubuntu 13.10 on kde 4.10.3; kde desktop effects are disabled
15:55.02Dark_lightdon't open chromium, seriously it's a ram hog
15:55.23Dark_lightor just upgrade your ram
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15:56.04Dark_lightanyway 1.1 GB used at startup is quite a bit, you could try disabling the services you're sure you don't use
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15:56.50alix_1.1GB at start up is really what's bothering me; there is a game application which needs about 500/600 MB to run smoothly, it starts lagging pretty fast
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15:57.41Dark_lightyou could try disabling some services but honestly the easy way would be just upgrade your ram to 4GB it's really cheap these days
15:58.45alix_it's a university laptop i'm not sure i can
15:59.00alix_if i tell them i need it to play they might not appreciate it :p
15:59.17Dark_lightwell still 2GB these days is really not much
15:59.25alix_true
15:59.30Dark_lightconsidering how much ram modern browsers take up
16:00.19alix_i remember when 1GB was considered comfortable for running xp :D
16:00.48alix_i'll try the services thing
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16:01.14Dark_lightyou can use rcconf to disable/enable startup services
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16:04.15Dark_lightalix_: if you're looking for a lightweight but yet functional browser solution you could try midori
16:04.26alix_cool thanks
16:04.34alix_i'm looking in the service manager, and i really have a ton of services
16:04.54Dark_lightdon't confuse the service manager which is kde with rcconf which is the actual system services
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16:05.45alix_Dark_light: ? so i shouldn't disable them there?
16:06.42Dark_lightmaybe some but I'm not sure if it'd be effective
16:07.03Dark_lighttry looking with rcconf at the daemons that the system starts during boot
16:07.18Dark_lightusually debian based distros tend to start waay to many of them for all possible usecases
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16:11.05lionaneeshHey guys, I was looking to get started with contributing to KDE's codebase. Could anyone suggest me some starting point. I already have the environment setup.
16:11.11alix_ok, thanks
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17:00.10davenullHello, I am running KDE 4.10.3 on Sabayon Linux, running on 5,4 Macbook Pro, and every time the screen is locked, the locker never actually shows up, leaving me with a clearly visible desktop that I cannot interact with. Any ideas as to why?
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17:04.16fulcanI just setup kontact, the way I normally do on a new laptop and kontact fails to send to smtp 587 submission port with 'could not connect to socket'. tcpdump shows 4 outbound packets but no reply. I can connect with -> openssl s_client -connect 173.255.232.34:587 -starttls smtp   but that doesn't help my mail client.
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17:19.56davenullAfter a little bit of experimenting, kscreenlocker does not seem to work no matter the method used to call it...
17:24.40thiagowhat do you mean by work?
17:26.04davenullIf I click on the "lock" option in the KDE menu, the screen does not change at all, and I cannot interact with KDE after that point. I can see kscreenlocker_greet running for a short time using htop in another terminal, but nothing else happens, requires a restart of XDM to resolve.
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17:26.58davenullThe mouse cursor moves like normal, but it is not possible to actually interact with the KDE desktop after lock.
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17:28.28Dark_lightdavenull: it works on gentoo 4.10.3
17:28.52davenullDark_light: Ugh.
17:30.01davenullThis is highly annoying.
17:31.35davenullIs there a way to disable kscreenlocker? I can live without password protection if I can suspend my computer and still be able to use it afterwords...
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17:33.59Dark_lightdavenull: have you tried asking on #sabayon ?
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17:35.02davenullDark_light: I asked both here and there, #sabayon is quiet at this time of day though.
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17:39.35davenullkscreenlocker_greet(21874)/KSharedDataCache KSharedDataCache::Private::mapSharedMemory: Failed to establish shared memory mapping, will fallback to private memory -- memory usage will increase
17:39.36davenullkscreenlocker_greet(21874)/kwin ScreenLocker::Greeter::loadGreetPlugin: GreeterPlugin  "classic"  does not exist
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17:41.18davenullAh.... I beleive that this is due to the use of XDM instead of KDM....
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17:42.18Dark_lightit could be
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17:44.33davenullI am going to reboot, try to install KDM, and see if that helps out.
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17:51.15davenullConfirmed, kscreenlocker does not function without KDM installed. Installing KDM immediately remedies issue. Will post to Sabayon bug tracker.
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17:59.33davenullhttp://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4235
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18:15.51Dark_lightisn't kdm the default login manager for sabayon?
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18:20.12davenullDark_light: No, they decided to use LightDm as the default...
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18:22.21Dark_lightoh right
18:22.37davenullApparently it's ok to use another DM, but you *have* to have KDM installed even if it is not used.
18:22.39Dark_lightbut I think it'll replace kdm
18:22.54Dark_lightI mean upstream
18:22.57Dark_lightI remember reading something
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18:23.45davenullLol, they may want to rework kscreenocker so that it has all the requirements to *run* without KDM present before that switch.
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18:24.40Dark_lightI might remember wrong though, but I'm sure kdm is going to be replaced
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18:26.50Dark_lightdavenull: completely irrelevant but out of curiosity how much ram is used after a fresh boot ?
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18:27.16davenullDark_light: Wanna wait for a reboot?
18:27.41davenullI'm curious myself.
18:27.53Dark_lightsure
18:27.55davenullbrb
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18:31.36davenullDark_light: 194 pre-login, 633 after KDE login.
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18:32.20Dark_lightI haven't tested pre login , here after kde login it's 460something
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18:34.17davenullDark_light: I also have yakuake and a few other things start on login.
18:34.33Dark_lightyeah I always start yakuake kmail and telepathy
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18:52.34ovidiu-florinhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317387 does not manifest anymore on KDE 4.10.4 (Arch Linux) Can this be considered as fixed?
18:52.43ovidiu-florinNo Ideea what caused it in the first place
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19:04.11makismis there a way to truncate the soprano-virtuoso database?
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19:19.32chaudharymakism: I just deleted the file once upon a time when I was running out of space.
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19:21.45makismhm... i would like to keep the db in which my tags are stored but not the file-indexed thingies because i do not use the indexer anymore. is it possible? :>
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19:27.15chaudharymakism: ummm no idea mate, have you checked manual for virtuoso-t
19:27.36vHandamakism: just disable the file indexer
19:27.40vHandaand wait for 4.11 :)
19:27.51vHandaall your file indexed data will be thrown away
19:28.13chaudharyvHanda: what about the tags makism was talking about?
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19:28.36makismvHanda, ah! out of curiosity, why? is something planned? or...? :>
19:28.41vHandaThe tags will always stay
19:28.42vHandayes
19:28.46vHandaIt is something planned.
19:29.07vHandaFor 4.11, we're optimizing the internal database structure which requires all the data to be added again
19:29.25vHandaso we're throwing away all your data after backing up the tags and ratings + comments
19:29.36vHandaand then creating a fresh db with the new format
19:29.48vHandaand restoring that backed-up data
19:29.53makismthat's great :D
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19:30.15chaudharynice :)
19:30.20vHandahopefully, you shouldn't even notice this migration
19:32.25chaudharygreat job, Thanks for the info vHanda :)
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19:37.44BluesKajkeithzg,^
19:38.40keithzgHeh BluesKaj I'm trying to stem the tide of Apple users haughtily celebrating their latest round of "revolutionary" features.
19:38.57keithzgThey have tabbed file browsing now, HAVE YOU HEAERD?! ;)
19:39.58BluesKajkeithzg, the mac cool factor is already falling down the cliff
19:41.26keithzgBluesKaj: That's why iOS 7 is such a big deal...with its new interface that looks pretty much identical to the N9's Harmattan UI/UX if you just skinned it white rather than black ;)
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19:42.25BluesKajnothing cool about an I mac that has a 25step tutorial just to replace a HDD
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20:25.23jairhello team, I am using konsole terminal and would like to install more fonts into it?
20:25.57jairdo I need to install fonts for kde or there is such a package that will give konsole more fonts to customize the look of the terminal
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20:40.29Skaparewants Klingon fonts for konsole
20:42.41ovidiu-florinhow can I start a plasmoid from CLI? I need to see why it doesn't work.
20:46.50da1l6ovidiu-florin: AFAIR there is a tool called "plasmoidviewer"
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20:58.07mzazaIf I am a newb is it supposed to be so hard to figure out what is causing a reported bug?
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20:59.13mzazaI mean try to fix bugs on kde.org/jj isn't that easy. And the problem I am facing is how should I figure what is causing the reported bug. Should I give a look at all the source code?!
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21:58.24RackmountGreetings. In Debian Wheezy, it seems that Cover Switch doesn't activate even though it's enabled in effects. Is this a known bug in KDE 4.8.5?
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