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01:45.32bigbrovarIs anyone having this issue with kmail https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284172 where the inbox is empty but not the sunflowers under it
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03:07.39Cory_I have a qurestion about wireless drivers in Ubuntu Ultimate Edition. Can anyone tell me which channel to go to get help?
03:07.47Cory_*question
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05:02.40darwinhow do I rip a CD with KAudioCreator and get the CDDB info if it seems CDDB always seems down?
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05:23.01valoriedarwin: is kaudiocreator packaged anymore?
05:23.13valorieit used to be my favorite, but now I use k3b
05:23.31darwinok; I could use that... I just want to know if there are still any CDDB servers
05:25.04darwink3b seems to be working at it; thanks
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06:09.05darwinvalorie (or anyone,) I am using k3b, but it seems it will not let me set the speed
06:09.24darwinI read you should not rip CDs at over 8x, but k3b is usually running mine at the maximum speed it can for anything
06:09.48valorieit's only burning you have to be careful of, right?
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06:10.15valorieyou set the quality you want in systemsettings, as i recall
06:10.54darwinI just said apparently you have to be careful of how fast you rip a CD--according to KAudioCreator
06:11.05Jucato"8x" is usually associated with burning, not ripping.
06:11.07darwinI do not think k3b let me change it there
06:11.24darwinwell, it is what the KAudioCreator said about ripping, I think
06:11.36darwinI had only read the documentation on that part
06:12.08darwinmaybe it meant for copying
06:12.14valorieas I recall, rip quality is set in systemsettings
06:12.26valoriewhile burn speed should be in the application
06:12.37darwinok
06:13.06valorieI don't burn many CDs any more, but .....
06:13.07JucatoSystem Settings -> Multimedia ->Audio CDs
06:14.13darwinI am just ripping to wav
06:14.40darwinI do not listen to my music so much anymore... if I convert it to ogg or something, I will choose the quality then
06:15.32darwinthanks for the help
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06:16.31darwinon one, k3b seems to stop at the same point in one song... maybe the CD is just old
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06:27.10valoriedarwin: this is somewhat gross, but sometimes it helps to lick the cd, then polish it
06:27.21valoriefills in the little scratches
06:28.29darwinI doubt it is even scratched
06:28.46darwinprobably just degraded, after 16 years
06:28.54darwinI am very careful with my CDs
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06:29.33darwinonly one set was a bit scratched that I loaned to some people... then I never did that again
06:29.53valorieI get them from the library often
06:30.09valoriesometimes they won't even play unless I wash and then lick them
06:30.33Jucatohas learned something new about valorie :D
06:30.37valorieprofessionally pressed CDs shouldn't degrade
06:30.44valorieonly ones you have burned
06:30.59valorieI learned that trick from my niece!
06:31.17Jucatobut I don't know your niece! :P
06:31.23valorietrue, she used to have the habit of licking people when she was a little kid
06:31.27valorieol
06:31.30valorielol
06:31.46valoriewhen you come visit, I promise you will meet
06:31.52valorie:-)
06:32.03JucatoI thought "I promise I/she won't lick you" heheh :)
06:32.43valorieI think she only licks CDs these days
06:32.49valorie:-)
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06:46.34darwinhmm... I guess that was one of my rare CDs that are scratched. Ok; I will try what you said
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06:56.38valoriegood luck! I mean lick
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07:22.34rajuramvanihow can upgrade fedora 18 to 19
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14:27.23BCMMi'm writing a plasmoid. how can i get information about the containment, like the height of the panel i'm in and so on?
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14:30.42DaZin general #kde-devel is more.. devel :v
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14:39.01annmaBCMM: ry asking in #plasma
14:39.44annmaBCMM: why do you need the height of the panel?
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15:01.58BluesKajannma, height is needed by those of us who like a larger panel
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15:02.41annmaBluesKaj: how come?
15:02.56annmayou need to define it in code?
15:03.53BluesKajannma, NM , it was a joke ...guess it didn't translate very well in text
15:04.22annmaah OK ;)
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15:06.59ZenGuy311anybody else use kopete daily?
15:07.26leszekZenGuy311: I am using kopete almost every day
15:09.34ZenGuy311i've experienced a bug with it.. a cuple of weeks ago a friend sent me some ruby code and it just crashed completely.. i can't get the ruby code because it was so long ago but one apparent bug is resolving of password protected urls.. urls that use htpasswd or similar.
15:10.40ZenGuy311the program stalls and if i'm sent more than 3-4 of them before i can cancel the notification idalog for the first one then my desktop freezes.. i had to drop to shell and kill kopete
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15:11.46ZenGuy311i found that if i visited the site in konqueror and entered the password prior to having the password protected urls sent to me.. it wasn't a huge issue
15:11.51leszekZenGuy311: hmm... never experienced that
15:14.06ZenGuy311i may file a bug report but i don't know of any "public" password protected htpasswd site that can be tested
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16:15.58Tennisballhi
16:16.19TennisballI've got a problem with adjusting the screen brightness on Linux Mint 14 (KDE)
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16:17.13TennisballI tried "sudo setpci -s 01:00.0 F4.B=ff" and adjusting it in the Battery Monitor, both didn't work
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16:17.50caravelTennisball: Hi
16:18.02caravelthis doesn't look like a #kde problem (?)
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16:18.27caravelI'd suggest you ask in whatever Mint IRC channel is available
16:18.34TennisballOkay
16:18.37TennisballThanks for your help
16:18.45caravelyou're welcome
16:19.01cornfeedhobois there a way to get a panel to be displayed only during a certian activity? i am trying to make my laptop more dual monitor friendly when home
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16:19.48caravelTennisball: so, that's offtopic -- but you might want to try first a few livecds from distinct DEs or even distros
16:20.03caravel(could be the kernel, or your graphic adapter driver, or...)
16:20.10Tennisballkk
16:20.12cornfeedhobousing kubuntu 12 w\kde4
16:21.26daimonionAnyone care to take a look at: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319316 ?
16:22.12caravelcornfeedhobo: I'm not sure about panels strictly, but at least you should be able to use panel-like applets which are activity-specific
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16:23.33caraveldaimonion: have you looked at KDE language options ? system settings are one thing, KDE settings another
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16:24.27cornfeedhobomeh ah will this doesnt seem to work
16:24.41cornfeedhobopanels should be activity specific imho
16:24.46daimonionI meant on systemsettings KDE app. :) But yes, both system and KDE are configured for Serbian.
16:25.49caraveldaimonion: (myself I've much switched languages, sys != KDE and eg. I have to force LANG in shortcuts for Mozilla apps)
16:26.37daimonionHow do you that forcing? "export LANG"?
16:27.19caravelI just do eg. LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 thunderbird
16:27.51daimonionI think I have tried this before, but I'll do it again. :)
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16:28.21caravelpay much attention to _ and -, that'd be my advice :)
16:28.49caravel(and of course you need the locales for that software)
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16:31.03daimonionNope, still the same. And still there's the warning: "KGlobal::locale(): Warning blah blah..."
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16:33.09caravelcornfeedhobo: if this is your opinion, then -> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292094
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16:34.32caraveldaimonion: sorry I can't help you further then. Tried reproduce the issue with other software and languages ?
16:35.04daimonionNo, that's a good idea, though. Thanks, you did help me. :)
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16:49.37daimonioncaravel: I've tried with es_ES locales, and the same thing happens, unfortunately.
16:49.59caravelwith other software too?
16:50.15caravelthen, did you figure if it's specific to KDE?
16:50.18daimonionI only have Qt software.
16:50.38daimonionYes, it only happens with Qt apps on KDE.
16:51.17daimonionHm, I also have razor-qt installed, I'm gonna try with it.
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16:52.43caraveldaimonion: could be specific to your distro too? I don't recall meeting this here
16:53.31caravel(I'm using KDE for years, including all sorts of QT/Gtk/any stuff)
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16:54.12annmaQt not QT
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16:54.32caravelokay :)
16:55.03caravel(and I think the only similar issues I had, were Mozilla-specific, since they read different settings for different parts of their own interfaces)
16:55.06daimonionI'm not sure...
16:56.34caraveldaimonion: I'd think you need to be more sure in order to provide more info in that ticket you pointed :) I failed to read "Serbian" in there for instance
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17:03.35eagles0513875hey guys :)
17:04.13eagles0513875how is everyone loving 4.10 :) i was following a thread on g+ in regards to kde and i would like to grab a neglected aspect of kde and work on improving it :) what do i need to do to start contributing to kde?
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17:15.34systemclientI would like to have a small something in my kicker (control bar at the bottom) which displays the current power usage, from /sys/class/...
17:15.55systemclientIs it feasable to write a little C++ or Python program that does this?
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17:17.27systemclientI think it is called a panel widget
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17:59.32PasNoxwhat is the kde dev channel please ?
17:59.48DaZ#kde-devel, dude
17:59.52PasNoxthanks
17:59.56PasNoxi tried dev and not devel :D
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18:00.09DaZand a few more more stuff oriented
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18:01.40PasNoxDaZ: ok ;)
18:02.23veryhappyhey guys, got a problem while trying to setup kmail, i assume it's a bug, but i'm not sure what i've done that it always shows the same error, it says: KMail - Timeout trying to get lock, any ideas?
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18:06.18ompaulveryhappy: what version
18:06.36ompaulveryhappy: on what platform
18:06.36veryhappyhold on i'll try you
18:06.48veryhappyi'll tell you
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18:08.08veryhappykmail 4.8.5 on Kubuntu 12.04 Kernel 3.2.0-41-generic amd64 if that's important too
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18:09.59veryhappyompaul: if there's any possibility to reset it, how? apt-get --purge kmail?
18:10.02ompaulveryhappy: it was useful information    .   ystem settings -> akonadi configuration -> akanodi server configuration -> restart mysql (akonodi server)
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18:10.16veryhappyok
18:11.11ompaulveryhappy: simple google but the thing is I have used kmail before that and after that - and never had that as an issue
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18:11.48veryhappyompaul: well, i got no akonadi setting in there
18:12.06veryhappyonly personal informations
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18:12.33veryhappyit says setup of akonadi ressources
18:12.41veryhappysupposed to be that?
18:13.41ompaulno idea your error came up with that as a solution - looking on my debian box
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18:14.37veryhappyhmmm
18:14.52veryhappywell actually i'm not really sure if that's even what i wanna use
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18:15.20veryhappyompaul: you know this calendar that shows up when you click in the kde bar on the clock?
18:15.21ompaulveryhappy: that's not the point, the point is your kde has a backend and one presumes it is a database it can't get a lock on
18:15.40ompaulveryhappy: yes I have one
18:15.41veryhappyompaul: so mysql, right?
18:15.58veryhappyi want to use googlemail in sync with that kde panel calendar that's it
18:16.03ompaulveryhappy: been called for food back in a bit
18:16.31veryhappyok
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18:17.42veryhappyalso brb
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18:34.39veryhappyi'm back
18:37.34veryhappycan someone tell me the name of the program that is connected to the calendar located in the clock that's built-in into the kde bar?
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18:39.57veryhappybtw my problem was solved by deleting too much entries in the akonadi setup
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18:43.07ompaulveryhappy: what do you want to do to that calender?
18:43.30veryhappyi want to use google calendar with the kde bar calendar
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18:44.44ompaulit doesn't link into that - that is just date and time - unless kubuntu have a date and time thing going on in which case you need to ask in #kubuntu
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18:45.52ompaulveryhappy: there appears to be a akonadi-kde-resource-googledata
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18:47.13ompaulveryhappy: maybe these are available to you konsolekalendar  kontact  korganizer korganizer-mobile
18:49.07veryhappyompaul: i already tried that out, but that apparently that wasn't linked to the calendar either, besides it also won't work with repetitions
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18:52.16veryhappyok thanks gotta go
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19:12.01thefitypHi everyone! Is it ok to ask (possibly dumb) questions in here?
19:13.16Artakhawhy would it not be?
19:13.32thefitypI just wanted to make sure I was in the right spot
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19:13.40thiagoif they are related to KDE, you can ask them
19:13.50thiagoif they are not, we'll try to redirect you to the best place to get them answered
19:13.58thefitypOk great
19:16.36thefitypSo I have been trying to find a way to get my laptops key (XF86ScrollDown, keycode 186) to map in Krita (a digital painting application for KDE) but I get an error "The key you just pressed is not supported by Qt"
19:16.57thefitypMy google-fu has failed me and I cant find any way to fix this
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19:17.41thefitypI have found bug reports (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182672)
19:18.07thefitypbut I still havent been able to get a resolution
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19:18.29thefitypI am on Kubuntu 13.04
19:18.57thefitypCan anyone point me in the direction of a fix?
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19:21.47thiagothefityp: the bug isn't closed
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19:35.54patkoscsabahi
19:36.02patkoscsabaI have KDE set to log in automatically
19:36.21thiagome too
19:36.30patkoscsabasince today (maybe because of an update on my Sabayon Linux) it does not log in immediately
19:36.39patkoscsabait says "logging in <my username>"
19:36.40thiagoit still does here
19:36.46patkoscsabathan the last login time is shown
19:36.53thiagowhere?
19:36.54patkoscsabaand I have to confirm with an OK
19:37.08patkoscsabaafter that it starts loading KDE
19:37.48patkoscsabathiago: I boot up, I expect no login screen, but I get one saying the above message and I have to manually confirm
19:38.11patkoscsabaI do not have to put in the user/pass, but I have to click "OK" before KDE loads
19:38.18thiagomaybe it's something new in kdm
19:38.19patkoscsaba... very strange
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19:38.28thiagoI haven't updated in a couple of months
19:39.09patkoscsabaI can't see anything special there in the KDE's System Settings
19:39.16patkoscsabathat's why I am asking
19:40.30patkoscsabahave to go now
19:40.31patkoscsababbye
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19:59.01leemarHow do I disable akonadi per-user services?
19:59.18thiagothat's a weird question
19:59.27thiagothere are no services besides per-user
19:59.31nobregadantasHello everyone
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19:59.47leemarok, how would I disable the four services running?
20:00.13leemarakonadi_ical_resource, akonadi_maildir_resource, akonadi_maildispatcher_agent, akonadi_vcard_resource
20:00.14thiagoleemar: don't use any applications that require them
20:00.23thiagoleemar: don't run kmail, for example
20:00.33thiagoleemar: and turn off the calendar integration in your plasma clock
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20:01.08leemarthiago: would Thunderbird require it?
20:01.24leemarI killed the maildir one, and it re-spwaned
20:02.31thiagoleemar: no
20:02.41thiagoleemar: first, stop using the applications that require it
20:02.42leemarweird
20:02.49thiagoleemar: then run: akonadictl stop
20:02.50leemarI'm not using kmail
20:03.16leemarthiago: awesome, thanks
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20:10.25nobregadantasThiago: what is o channel of kde brasil
20:10.34thiagonobregadantas: #kde-brasil
20:11.01nobregadantasOk thanks
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20:13.23leemarthiago: how would I make akonadictl always stop
20:13.36leemarer, I mean disable
20:13.39thiagoleemar: I've answered twice
20:13.45thiagoleemar: stop using the applications that require it
20:13.53leemaryes, I won't use apps
20:14.01leemarand you detailed how to stop the service
20:14.10thiagoleemar: that's to stop after it was started
20:14.12leemarbut, is there a way to disable it from starting up?
20:14.19thiagoleemar: yes. Stop using the apps that require it.
20:14.26leemarthiago: thank you
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20:21.59BluesKajleemar, you can disable akonadi by typing akonadi into the kmenu searcch , choose, Akonadi Server Configuration and stop it
20:22.33thiagothat doesn't disable it
20:22.36thiagothat stops a running akonadi only
20:22.45leemarhmmm
20:23.12einar77leemar: to make the point clearer, Akonadi is an on-demand service, it will start the moment an application will request it
20:23.28leemareinar77: understood
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20:23.40einar77leemar: so you need not to use apps that rely on it, and untick "show events" from the clock widget configuration, if you have that widget
20:24.29leemareinar77: done, thank you
20:25.02BluesKajwell ,it work s here , also have it stopped in system settings startup&shutdown.sessionmanagement , applicxations to be excluded, type akonadi
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20:28.43damien_hi, I switched from Debian to Kubuntu while keeping my old home folder; I was running KDE 4.8 back then.  On the new install, I get crappy rendering and no effects when logged from my old home; effects work fine on the guest account
20:29.04damien_I'm assuming some old configuration files are making trouble, but I can't figure out which one
20:29.26damien_I already moved ~/.kde, ~/.kderc
20:29.28damien_any idea?
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20:37.55MAQ08alguin me ayuda porfavor
20:38.03MAQ08necesito reproducir un iso blurah
20:38.13MAQ08mi vlc no lo reproduce
20:38.19MAQ08existe otro medio
20:38.21MAQ08?
20:40.47MAQ08porfavor amigosayudenme
20:42.59MAQ08nadie me auda porfavor?
20:43.14thiagomost people require questions in English
20:43.30MAQ08ok
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20:44.11MAQ08help me please i need play a iso bluray movie
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20:45.42MAQ08try with vlc
20:45.59MAQ08but do not play
20:46.05jerichowasahoaxIs it possible to stop Dolphin from adding .part to the end of a filename when uploading to FTP servers?
20:46.38thiagojerichowasahoax: I think there's a way, but why do you want that?
20:46.54jerichowasahoaxthiago: Because I don't have permission to rename or delete files on the FTP server in question.
20:47.17thiagojerichowasahoax: you can create, but not rename after it's finished uploading?
20:47.23jerichowasahoaxthiago: Yes.
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20:48.27thiagojerichowasahoax: that's a good reason
20:48.46thiagojerichowasahoax: I think there's a way to tell KIO not to use part files. I think it's a setting, either in kiorc or kio_ftprc.
20:48.55thiagojerichowasahoax: unfortunately, I don't know any more details.
20:49.13thiagojerichowasahoax: the setting is probably "canRename" or something like that
20:49.55jerichowasahoaxthiago: I was hoping I wouldn't have to use a text editor, but given the fact that my situation probably isn't the most common one I should have expected as much
20:51.15thiagojerichowasahoax: actually, there is a GUI
20:51.18thiagojerichowasahoax: I've just found it
20:51.31thiagojerichowasahoax: system settings > Network settings > connection preferences
20:51.47MAQ08please help me I need to play a bluray iso a movie
20:52.09jerichowasahoaxthiago: Awesome! Thank you
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20:53.45jerichowasahoaxMAQ08: Here's a website with the files you need for Blu Ray discs in VLC: http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/ (it might work for other players as well)
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20:55.50MAQ08amigo ya hice eso
20:56.24MAQ08friend and I did that
20:58.40jerichowasahoaxMAQ08: If that didn't work, then I'm stumped, sorry
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21:05.29nodiehi
21:06.33nodieI've a problem, when running KDE apps inside gnome3 in Ubuntu my mouse disappears when entering into KDE apps (just when it pass the title bar or the border of the window)
21:06.48nodiethe mouse works, it's just that the cursor doesn't shows
21:06.59nodieI suspect is something related to themes
21:07.21nodiedo you know what could be causing this problem? (I REALLY need konsole ;) )
21:07.40nodiethe problem doesn't appears when running the full KDE desktop
21:07.41thiagoif you suspect it's the theme, change it
21:07.55nodiehi thiago, I've changed it many times without success
21:08.35nodiethiago, how can I know if there is some problem? is there some way for logging something like a missing theme?
21:09.00thiagothen it's probably not the theme
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21:10.25theodoes anyone know how you will get a virtual keyboard in the lock screen?
21:10.37theoI do have it in the login sceen, but not the lock...
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21:25.23drpaneashow can I check the current version of KDE that I am using right now ?
21:26.35toskydrpaneas: you can check the version of the libraries in any application from the help menu
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21:28.23thiagodrpaneas: in any KDE application, Help > About KDE
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21:45.07drpaneasthiago: thanks man ;)
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22:04.52theoso... nobody here in the kde channel has any clue how to get a virtual keyboard to work when the lock screen is running?
22:05.05theoAm I the only one ever getting stuck here?
22:05.19theoor.. there.. to be more correct..
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23:40.32R_RiosI can't change my icons theme. The "Updating system configuration" just sits there, and never goes away. If I cancel the process, the theme goes back to Oxygen.
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23:43.19RRiosI can't change my icons theme. The "Updating system configuration" just sits there, and never goes away. If I cancel the process, the theme goes back to Oxygen.
23:43.37valorieRRios: repeating doesn't help
23:44.00valoriethat said, is there perhaps a hidden screen asking for a password ?
23:44.14RRiosMy internet went down, so I thought my previous message didn't go
23:44.19valorieok
23:44.31RRiosLemme check
23:44.53RRiosNone that I can see, no
23:44.57valoriehere it's a sunny Sunday afternoon, and most people are smarter than me and outside
23:45.00valorie:-0
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23:49.09R_RiosYep, still "Updating system configuration"
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23:50.05R_RiosCould you try doing the same, so that I can confirm if this is a bug or if it's just a local problem?
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