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03:10.34AethaerynWhy are the graphics for ksirk considerably worse than the other KDE games?
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03:20.28Sho_Aethaeryn: Look decent to me?
03:21.43AethaerynSho_: You could probably spend one weekend modifying a liberally licensed Wikipedia map to get a better map. Vector-based, too, if necessary.
03:22.08Sho_Aethaeryn: Hm well why not do that then?
03:22.25AethaerynI'm not sure.
03:22.36Sho_Aethaeryn: Scratching your itch is how a lot of folks get involved
03:22.39AethaerynAll I know is that all you'd need to do is play with the borders so that there's no gameplay difference in moving.
03:24.58Sho_Looks like the app is even set up to allow downloading additional skins from kde-look.org
03:26.51AethaerynYes, but the only two maps are even worse :P
03:26.59Aethaerynhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Blank_maps_of_the_world_for_historical_use
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03:27.07Sho_yeah, but the point is that it seems to be easy enough to swap out the graphics
03:27.12AethaerynUnfortunately, there are none before 1918, and this seems late 19th century themed
03:27.12Sho_so get crackin' :)
03:27.43Aethaerynoh wait, for some reason it's not chronological and there are
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07:34.46takis_GRhello. I have install kde 4.10 (arch linux). I use search as activities. I want to use animated wallpaper. How can setup it??
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08:05.40takis_GRhow can use animated wallpapers??
08:07.00annmawhere did you get them?
08:07.50takis_GRi show a video in youtube and say kde 4.10 animated background
08:08.05takis_GR*animated wallpaper
08:08.13annmaso your question is "how can I install them" ?
08:10.50annmaor?
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08:15.22takis_GRi find it. i install dreamdesktop and can use any video
08:15.24takis_GR:)
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16:38.31anandHi Folks...
16:38.31anandhttp://www.kickstarter.com/projects/421164014/openshot-video-editor-for-windows-mac-and-linux/posts
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16:39.11anandan earnest appeal to KDE users to contribute for a Linux cause.... (am aware of kdenlive :-))
16:40.13Userrask you tube
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17:03.49sbalmosNot really sure if this is KUbuntu, X, KDE, or X11VNC related. But I run X11VNC on my root display. If I'm VNC'ing, and then return to my physical console display, all KDE windows have a multi-second delay in mouse clicks, until I log out and back in.
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17:40.54rubin110The KDE screen locked password dialog is stuck on my screen.
17:40.58rubin110It wont go away.
17:41.11rubin110It's staring at me, it's watching me.
17:41.27rubin110I don't see any processes that contain "screen"
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17:41.54rubin110How do I kill it?
17:41.59wgoslingrubin110: i think the lock screen is part of kwin
17:42.26wgoslingmaybe 'nohup kwin --replace &'
17:42.48rubin110Woot, thanks.
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17:58.22orzelhello. is there a channel dedicated to sysadmin of kde servers ? ("kde infra" ?)
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18:17.44DaZorzel: #kde-sysadmin
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18:25.48wgoslingI've noticed recently that some Qt apps no longer use my current KDE theme. Qt Designer seems to be using QtCurve even though I have Oxygen selected.
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19:01.55Walexwgosling: KDE and Qt skinning are not the same...
19:03.06wgoslinglame
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19:04.02wgoslingseems weird that Gnome apps visually integrate with KDE better than regular Qt ones do
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19:06.58annmawgosling: maybe yo uhave a qt config file
19:07.10cb400fthey only do that cuz oxygen-gtk helps them :-)
19:07.10annmaI use QtCreator and it's in Oxygen style
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19:07.18cb400fotherwise they'd look horrible
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19:09.15Roukoswarfhello, ive always had an issue with oxygen never being able to deal with flat backgrounds, and have been using qtcurve for now. knowing that qtcurve may die, i would like to see if there are any solutions to make https://rouk.or.gs/dump/screenshot5.png pure black
19:09.51Roukoswarfit just makes a horrific gradient
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19:23.33orzelDaZ:  thx :)
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19:29.15messa4hello
19:29.29messa4Any expert here who used and remember KDE 1.x ?
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19:31.45annmaI used it but I don't really remember it
19:32.06messa4i need someone to compile static version of kde 1
19:32.16messa4becasue new stuff is too slow
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19:32.38messa4i was using kde 1.x with pentium 100mhz and 32mb ram and it was FLAWLESS and fast - with the same featres that u got today
19:33.35Roukoswarfnobody knows if theres a way to prevent oxygen from using ghastly gradients?
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19:33.44annmaKDE is not slow on my 3 years old laptop
19:33.54messa43 years old laptop is new laptop
19:33.59messa4and u must be from usa - so very rich
19:34.01annmareally?
19:34.07messa4old laptop = more then 10 years
19:34.07annmanot from the USA
19:34.28annmaso is yuor KDE slow because your hardware is 10 years old?
19:34.29messa4my main linux box is from 2001
19:34.36messa4no
19:34.44messa4i just want to use KDE 1.x again. even on modern hardware
19:34.46Roukoswarfmessa4: meh, ive run kde3 just fine on my intel coppermine
19:34.51messa4becasue it was so small and fast
19:34.53Roukoswarfand im from north america :p
19:35.03annmaI doubt yo ucan compile KDE1
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19:35.14Roukoswarfyeah, linking kde1
19:35.14Roukoswarfgood luck
19:35.24annmayes
19:35.27messa4any expert here? please make static version of kde1 so we can use it
19:35.32messa4thank you
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19:35.37messa4i will wait all day
19:35.41annmasure
19:36.02Roukoswarfmessa4: sure, il just fire up my 1999 box with a full copy of the debian repos
19:36.11Roukoswarfhit the compile button and go
19:36.25messa4please do if u have spare time
19:36.30messa4im very serious
19:36.32RoukoswarfLoL
19:36.34annmalol
19:36.52messa4i was trying to compile it manaully but it fails. maybe it was older generation of glibc then
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19:37.04Roukoswarfmessa4: glibc is the least of your issues
19:37.06annmaI said so
19:37.41messa4today even stupid notepad is using 30mb of ram
19:37.53Roukoswarfmessa4: lolwut
19:37.56Roukoswarfno it aint
19:38.00annmanotepad?
19:38.06messa4so please compile static version of kde 1. maybe people would use it with pelasure
19:38.15annmaKNotepad
19:38.16messa4Knotepad - whatever its named
19:38.19annmalol
19:38.22annmawas a joke
19:38.33messa4im serious
19:38.42messa4i would even pay for working kde 1.x binaries
19:38.56annmaoh then send me a mail with an offer
19:39.04Roukoswarfmessa4: il put it in the stupid suggestions box
19:39.05messa410$
19:39.30Roukoswarfyou give me 100$ and i would consider finding the libs
19:39.35Roukoswarfto compile it id need 500
19:39.39Roukoswarf:p
19:39.51Roukoswarfyou realize how impossible your request is?
19:40.06Roukoswarfdebian doesnt even have archives with this stuff anymore
19:40.13Roukoswarfand they keep everything
19:40.15annmalol Roukoswarf
19:40.16messa4well. i know that slackware 7 have cd and all scripts needed to build KDe 1.x with one command
19:40.24messa4slackware 7 source cd 1
19:40.30Roukoswarfmessa4: then do it
19:40.31messa4problem is - making it static
19:40.51messa4also i dont have pc avalible to install slackware
19:41.08Roukoswarfwhy? since you are keen on breaking fucking everything, why not just copy all the libs on top of your current install?
19:41.19messa4i tried
19:41.21messa4doesnt work
19:41.25RoukoswarfLoL
19:41.36Artakhaand i thought i was nuts for preferring kde 3.x before i got to 4.9
19:41.50messa4i never even used 4.x
19:41.52RoukoswarfArtakha: yeah... this guy...
19:42.02kirunYou know, I have a whole stack of Linux Format CDs I never got around to throwing out, so I could probably find plenty of old stuff ... but the oldest one I have for sure is KDE 2.X
19:42.09Roukoswarfmessa4: then how on earth do you not like it?
19:42.19messa4im serious: u have no idea how 1.x was light and fast. it was using like 8mb of memory for full KDe dekstop
19:42.37Roukoswarfmessa4: static linking it all would make it huge
19:42.43Roukoswarfso, your point is moot
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19:42.50messa4Roukoswarf: now software is bloated and slow. it mighrt be fault of QT - even simple programs are huge with it
19:42.58Artakha.. huh
19:43.17Roukoswarfmessa4: go bother #gnome
19:43.19messa4static version of kde 1.x will bes till smaller with memory consumption then modern 3.5 kde
19:43.27messa4Roukoswarf: ?
19:43.29Roukoswarf3.5 is modern?
19:43.33Roukoswarfwhat is this
19:43.36Roukoswarf2004?
19:43.53messa4i dont know. i didnt upraded anything since 2008
19:44.01Artakha...
19:44.02messa4coz im afraid of this all idiots software
19:44.05Roukoswarfthen your system is already broken
19:44.07messa4apps clouds and other nonsence
19:44.13messa4anyway
19:44.16Roukoswarfthis guy is completely retarded
19:44.20Artakhacould just as well go use twm then
19:44.21messa4please compile 1.x KDe fro me is u are expert
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19:44.28Roukoswarfanyone with chanserv autoOP that can kick him?
19:44.40Roukoswarf:p
19:45.09messa4Artakha: thats the point! even modern TINY windows managers like openbox/cde are using MORE memory then FULL BLOWEN kde 1.x back then
19:45.10Roukoswarfmessa4: complain about bloat? use a lighter rendering engine
19:45.19Artakha.. what
19:45.25messa4Artakha: im serious
19:45.33RoukoswarfArtakha: do we have a bot here?
19:45.36messa4i was using it with machine with 32mb of ram - full speed and fun
19:45.48messa4full KDe 1.x - all features enabled
19:45.49Roukoswarfmessa4: get out of the 80s
19:45.53Roukoswarfwelcome to 2013
19:45.55ArtakhaRoukoswarf, i have no clue here
19:45.57Roukoswarfspend 3 dollars
19:46.04Roukoswarfget a 512mb arm board
19:46.07Roukoswarfrun kde4
19:46.14Roukoswarfand shut up
19:46.15messa4u are unkind
19:46.28Roukoswarfmessa4: u are stoopid
19:46.44rdieterRoukoswarf: relax, no need to stoop to personal attacks
19:46.45messa4im not. im asking for compiling old version of kda becasue i want to use it
19:46.54messa4and im willing to pay
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19:47.08Roukoswarfmessa4: your request is insane
19:47.12Roukoswarfend of story
19:47.16messa4Roukoswarf: so dont read it
19:47.36messa4also u have no expirience with kde
19:47.44Roukoswarflolwut
19:47.45messa4becasue u dont even used kde 1.0
19:47.46Roukoswarfreally?
19:47.50Artakhaoh no, we like modern kde
19:47.59Artakhatherefore we must have never truly experienced kde!
19:48.06Roukoswarfhow do you know what ive used?
19:48.17messa4Roukoswarf: from your childish attitude
19:48.26Roukoswarfplease enlighten me on your mind reading over ethernet protocol
19:48.44messa4Roukoswarf: u are acting like spoiled brat
19:48.46ArtakhaRoukoswarf, don't feed trolls™
19:48.56messa4see "Experts"
19:48.56rdietermessa4: same goes for you (personal attacks are not welcome here)
19:49.09Roukoswarffinally...
19:50.11Roukoswarfanyone have any news on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273423
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21:28.56infinullperhaps with a UPnP server?
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21:35.27blubbinfinull: i can't install a UPnP server everywhere I go :)
21:35.38blubbmy problem is, in gnome you have gvfs
21:35.46blubbit works like a charm
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21:36.27blubbBut I need to have that functionality in KDE
21:37.10blubbI know there's kio, but i don't know, maybe iI just don't get it... but I can't get it to work as it should
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21:38.35blubband it seems (when im googling) that I'm not the only one having that problem
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21:52.41infinullkio works differently than gvfs
21:53.36infinullonly applications with support for kio can use kio, but gvfs works on the filesystem level, so any application that can access files can use it. (or that is my understanding)
21:55.13blubbright, but i haven't found a video player that can use it
21:56.49blubbalso it would be nice if i don't have to worry about such stuff.
21:58.19blubband it seems if there is no player who supports kio. i tied many, and even the standard players in the common kde distros can't handle it (tried the live cd's)
21:58.56infinullhave you tried kaffeine or dragon player? butyeah kio probably doesn't work well for multi-media
21:59.09infinulluses vlc + upnp for this sort of thing
21:59.43blubbat home thats not that big of a problem, but when not, it is just annoying
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22:01.02blubbso I was hoping that someone knows a way that I can mimic the gvfs behaviour
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22:03.28blubbimo thats the best way, cause that way you can choose freely between programms etc.
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22:04.53infinullhrm, I don't think so not with KIO, but ther are FUSE drivers for most things if you're ok with a non-kde cli based solution.
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22:05.55blubbi know how i can work arround the problem, but it would be nice to have it "integrated" and "just working" ;)
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22:22.39AndrzejLguys a question - using Smooth tasks fork plasmoid and the icons are just small...
22:22.53AndrzejLis there a setting that is making the icons bigger?
22:23.01AndrzejLcoz I am failing to find it...
22:24.33bootkillerkde has "icon-only task manager" built in, icon size will in regard of the panel height.
22:25.00AndrzejLDon't like it - using the smooth-tasks-fork plasmoid
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22:27.55AndrzejLwondering if they have irc channel...
22:28.09AndrzejLwill have to look for a contact method with the autor
22:28.54bootkillerhttps://bitbucket.org/flupp/smooth-tasks-fork/overview
22:29.15AndrzejLyup that's the one
22:29.18AndrzejLthanks bootkiller
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