| 00:00.34 | himanshu_ | thiago: |
| 00:00.37 | himanshu_ | done |
| 00:03.58 | himanshu_ | thiago: where is the code? |
| 00:05.04 | thiago | it's in the analitza directory |
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| 00:11.06 | himanshu_ | thiago: there are lot of files there, where should i start, how to study this bug page? |
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| 00:14.58 | thiago | himanshu_: you do realise you chose a wishlist, right? |
| 00:15.06 | thiago | himanshu_: that's not a bug. That's a request for implementing a feature. |
| 00:16.33 | himanshu_ | Oh, i like maths, so i will give it a try |
| 00:16.49 | himanshu_ | thiago: but right now i will go for a bug |
| 00:17.32 | himanshu_ | thiago: it was listed in bug list |
| 00:23.11 | himanshu_ | thiago: can i work on this one? |
| 00:23.13 | himanshu_ | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206462 |
| 00:26.17 | thiago | you can work on any bug |
| 00:26.22 | thiago | it's up to you to choose |
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| 00:27.23 | thiago | this one is probably easier to fix |
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| 00:27.52 | thiago | himanshu_: git://anongit.kde.org/kscd |
| 00:28.00 | himanshu_ | thiago: yup somebody has already provided some patch |
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| 00:33.16 | himanshu_ | thiago: is there something wrong with the patch, since the bug is not set to resolved |
| 00:33.22 | himanshu_ | ? |
| 00:33.35 | thiago | himanshu_: I don't know |
| 00:33.42 | thiago | himanshu_: I had never seen this bug until a few minutes ago |
| 00:33.51 | thiago | you tell me: is the patch good? Was it already applied? |
| 00:37.10 | himanshu_ | thiago: it looks good to me, i don't know if it is applied or not |
| 00:38.54 | himanshu_ | thiago: its not applied, because the file contains the same code |
| 00:41.44 | thiago | then make a Git commit applying it |
| 00:41.47 | thiago | verify that it still compiles |
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| 00:49.54 | himanshu_ | thiago: what do i need to compile this? |
| 00:50.21 | thiago | probably the kdelibs development files, the Qt development files |
| 00:50.23 | thiago | possibly a few more |
| 00:50.36 | thiago | take a look at techbase.kde.org for information on how to compile KDE from sources |
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| 01:07.14 | smileaf | does anyone know how to stop Dolphin from using mouse buttons #4 and 5 as forwards and backwards? checked dolphin shortcuts and global ones. |
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| 01:11.06 | thiago | 4 and 5? That's the wheel up and down. |
| 01:11.20 | thiago | did you mean buttons 8 and 9? |
| 01:11.27 | smileaf | no I have a mouse with 2 extra buttons on the sides |
| 01:11.35 | thiago | right, so it's 8 and 9 |
| 01:11.59 | thiago | no, mouse button settings are not usually configurable |
| 01:12.03 | smileaf | they show up in for example mumble as mouse3 and mouse4, but after several searches most refer to them as 4 and 5. |
| 01:12.29 | thiago | buttons 1 to 3 are the regular ones |
| 01:12.31 | smileaf | I can only assume they think mouse wheel is #3 |
| 01:12.36 | thiago | buttons 4 to 7 are the wheel |
| 01:12.37 | smileaf | right |
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| 01:12.46 | thiago | 4 and 5 are vertical, 6 and 7 are horizontal axis |
| 01:12.49 | smileaf | no idea about that one :P |
| 01:13.04 | thiago | if you have extra buttons, they start from 8 |
| 01:13.11 | smileaf | but ya.. when I click them over dolphin they go back and forwards in my history. |
| 01:13.41 | smileaf | same with firefox have yet to find any solution for that one either. |
| 01:13.55 | thiago | what do you want those buttons to do? |
| 01:13.58 | smileaf | nothing |
| 01:14.13 | thiago | then why do you click them? |
| 01:14.14 | smileaf | I use them in mumble (voip program) to chat |
| 01:14.33 | smileaf | I'd rather not have to be careful where I click them to chat with people. |
| 01:15.27 | thiago | the only thing I can think of is to change the mapping of those buttons. I don't even know if it's possible |
| 01:15.33 | thiago | reassign to 10 and 11 |
| 01:15.46 | thiago | but it will probably make this other program stop using them too |
| 01:16.07 | smileaf | so long as I'm able to reassign the program to use whatever they become I'm ok with that. |
| 01:16.43 | smileaf | drives me nuts programs use them but don't offer any way to have them not use them. :/ |
| 01:17.18 | thiago | you can't change the standard buttons either (1 to 7) |
| 01:17.47 | smileaf | true but those are bit more standard than extra buttons are |
| 01:18.04 | thiago | yes |
| 01:18.25 | smileaf | extra ones should be configurable not here is what they do, don't like it too bad :'( |
| 01:18.41 | smileaf | konqueror doesn't use them which I was happy to find out :) |
| 01:18.55 | thiago | imagine all applications offered to configure 22 buttons |
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| 01:19.50 | thiago | that should be integrated with the keyboard shortcuts configuration, but right now they aren't |
| 01:19.53 | thiago | sorry |
| 01:20.02 | smileaf | I'd rather standard things like the usual 2 buttons + wheel be standard and if you want to use any other button your able to configure them in whatever program you want to use them in. |
| 01:20.31 | smileaf | no problem, I have more faith in kde than I do mozilla. |
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| 02:13.17 | lainlives | hmmm konqueror in 4.10.2 is brokenish |
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| 02:51.27 | alchemist___ | i am trying to install kdelibs but i am getting many errors about not having dependencies |
| 02:51.40 | alchemist___ | where can i find or is there a central place where i can get all the dependencies ??? |
| 02:51.58 | alchemist___ | can anyone help me |
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| 04:03.26 | cogsu | Hey guys, I am starting to do some research for a Summer of Code proposal. I am planning on implementing android integration into the desktop. Is there a specific channel for plasma-desktop or should I just contact #plasma? |
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| 04:10.04 | cogsu | cool, that's what I though |
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| 04:40.15 | sdh_ | Is there a way to format a usb from dolphin? I currently have to do it from a partitioning app, but would prefer to do it directly fom dolphin |
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| 04:41.20 | thiago | there's no such feature in dolphin, unfortunately |
| 04:42.34 | cogsu | hmm, disk mangement is dolphin, another idea for GSOC :) |
| 04:42.44 | cogsu | *management |
| 04:42.49 | cogsu | *in |
| 04:43.00 | thiago | at least just partitioning |
| 04:43.05 | thiago | probably doesn't require a full gsoc |
| 04:43.14 | cogsu | simple things, like formatting a usb stick |
| 04:43.21 | cogsu | well, yeah |
| 04:43.27 | cogsu | probably an easy patch |
| 04:43.36 | cogsu | does solid abstract partition info? it must |
| 04:44.10 | thiago | it probably does |
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| 04:44.14 | thiago | not sure if it contains methods to format |
| 04:44.36 | cogsu | well, can just use some other util for that |
| 04:46.23 | sdh_ | Also, is there a difference between unmount and 'safely remove'? Because operations such as formatting need the partition to be unmounted, but after safely removing, the device itself is removed and I've to reinsert it |
| 04:47.12 | DaZ | i don't think there is |
| 04:47.45 | thiago | safely remove also causes it to eject |
| 04:47.57 | thiago | depending on your version of udev, it might also cut the power to the USB port |
| 04:48.14 | sdh_ | so how about another option to only unmount partition? |
| 04:48.25 | thiago | extremely rare use-case |
| 04:48.35 | DaZ | eject? :c |
| 04:48.42 | thiago | unmount without ejecting |
| 04:51.12 | sdh_ | one use case: I need it when creating a bootable usb from isos... |
| 04:55.14 | valorie | sdh_: can't you just use umount from the cli? |
| 04:56.06 | valorie | proliferation of rare use-cases as options in GUI applications seems like needless complication |
| 04:59.24 | sdh_ | valorie: of course, but it would be faster to do it from gui. Just wanted to know if this could be implemented, otherwise cli is good enough I suppose |
| 04:59.50 | valorie | do you use yakuake? |
| 04:59.53 | valorie | so quick! |
| 05:00.06 | valorie | f12 and you have a konsole |
| 05:00.36 | sdh_ | no hearing about it the 1st time :) |
| 05:00.41 | sdh_ | will try it out |
| 05:00.54 | valorie | and often you can dd the iso onto the thumbdrive |
| 05:01.17 | valorie | I'm pretty sure that's the fastest possible way, if it works |
| 05:03.07 | sdh_ | valorie: yes, only rest data need to be removed. Also if I remember correctly, extra data cannot be added without reformatting the usb |
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| 05:05.39 | valorie | sure, I would google a bit to see if someone has already solved the problem in the cli for whatever iso you want to add |
| 05:06.14 | valorie | I personally haven't created a bootable iso that way, but i know some who have |
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| 05:08.09 | sdh_ | Ok. ALso thanks for pointing out to yakuake. This should make daily operations very fast :) |
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| 05:15.51 | valorie | I love it |
| 05:15.55 | valorie | you can tab it too |
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| 05:23.46 | sdh_ | valorie: yes, this is sort of an always in-memory konsole... now have to get used to it! |
| 05:25.06 | valorie | it will take you a day or two, then you can't do without it |
| 05:25.37 | sdh_ | :) |
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| 10:25.58 | Aristide | Hi ! |
| 10:26.06 | Aristide | Digikam crash when I launch app |
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| 10:26.11 | Aristide | And everytime |
| 10:27.30 | Aristide | http://privatepaste.com/adbb17b1e0 (About crash) |
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| 11:34.57 | blackcoffeerider | hi |
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| 11:36.34 | blackcoffeerider | does anyone know of a way to have small icons in the tasklist app? |
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| 11:37.41 | blackcoffeerider | i would like to have a vertical sidebar but at the moment the Tasklist buttons are incredibly big |
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| 11:43.43 | PasNox | i'm looking for an alternative to desktop corner hint |
| 11:43.53 | PasNox | if i go top left, i can see windows by grid |
| 11:44.11 | PasNox | i want to have such mecanism but by clicking my mouse button 4, i can't found a solution, any hint please? |
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| 11:45.57 | sdh_ | blackcoffeerider: have you tried "icon only task manager" widget? |
| 11:49.49 | blackcoffeerider | sdh_: trying that at the moment but i cant get the icon size below 50% |
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| 11:50.24 | blackcoffeerider | sdh_: but i managed to have the texts disappear completely :-( so kind of the "inverse" of what i want |
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| 11:51.46 | sdh_ | blackcoffeerider: well its "icon-only" so no text. I do not know if you can show text vertically.. |
| 11:53.55 | blackcoffeerider | sdh_: i am actually looking for something of "small icon fixed siz button height and readable window text" |
| 11:54.22 | blackcoffeerider | sdh_: so i dont want to see the text vertically aswell |
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| 11:54.52 | blackcoffeerider | sdh_: the default taskbar ist like 80% what i want - but the text is too big and the icons aswell... |
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| 12:00.15 | PasNox | any hint on how to activate grid application preview using mouse button and not desktop corner / edge ? |
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| 13:18.40 | Psi|4ward | cannot activate desktop effects with opengl, (ati free driver) but glxgears running fine - any idea? |
| 13:21.14 | Aristide | ... With « Hi » or « Hello » is better ... But sorry I don't know |
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| 13:23.42 | DaZ | wat |
| 13:29.32 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 13:32.55 | muh2000 | hi all |
| 13:34.00 | muh2000 | how can i figure out what apps are stopping the computer to go into suspend-mode? |
| 13:35.54 | markand | hello |
| 13:36.32 | markand | I can't start akonadi since I've upgraded to 4.10 : 2013-04-07 15:32:44 1460 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: unknown variable 'table_cache=200' |
| 13:38.04 | annma | markand: ask your distribution channel |
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| 13:45.50 | markand | does KDE PIM store all data in the database? I don't want to lose everything |
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| 13:49.19 | Einzig_ | Hey all. After many years of using FOSS I am finally hoping to contribute in code. I am not very experienced, mainly because I tend to get demotivated/distracted. I hope there are some active people here that keep the work alive. Don't know if any have some "junior job" programming work that needs to be done and would like to advise I start with those. I can pick any from bugzilla, but fear it might end up as another short interest if communica |
| 13:49.55 | DaZ | wat |
| 13:50.22 | Einzig_ | I have some C++ and Python experience, but no QT experience so I will start there. |
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| 13:52.31 | vLassi | Einzig_: there are some junior jobs in KDE wiki at least |
| 13:53.10 | Einzig_ | yes, but I wonder how far to go into QT before looking in the bug list. |
| 13:53.13 | vLassi | I once checked them out, but dunno how up-to-date these are: http://community.kde.org/KDE/Junior_Jobs |
| 13:53.58 | Einzig_ | or if the list is easy enough to interpret if you don't know how QT works. Learning enough to fix a particular bug might work. |
| 13:54.07 | Einzig_ | but only if you get the terms :) |
| 13:55.00 | vLassi | well, I think you'd better get the basic Qt into grips first, might make things more straighforward and not spend your time split between the actual task and learning something fmro scratch |
| 13:55.24 | vLassi | just how I'd do it, something else might work for someone else :) |
| 13:55.49 | vLassi | but for me it is too confusing and/or distracting to try to focus on two things at once |
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| 13:56.13 | Einzig_ | yes, I guess I'll try that. I thought maybe someone had placed a bug and knew it was purely a C++ or python thing. I might look at that already. |
| 13:56.50 | markand | annma, I've commented out table_cache in the mysql.conf and it fixed |
| 13:56.58 | markand | I guess KDE 4.10 does not support mysql 5.6 as well |
| 13:57.30 | vLassi | Einzig_: well, I doubt "pure c++ or python" is something KDE is probably not. Just a hunch, though.. |
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| 13:58.51 | DaZ | kde is mostly kde :c |
| 13:59.24 | Einzig_ | This is really the first time I'll be looking into the source. I am quite ignorant about what it entails. |
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| 14:20.12 | eneko | hi |
| 14:20.35 | eneko | my notification suddenly appear on top of the screen, and are really ugly now |
| 14:20.49 | eneko | with a grey opaque background |
| 14:20.56 | eneko | how con i return it to normal? |
| 14:21.39 | annma | does it happen to a new user? |
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| 14:22.45 | eneko | nope |
| 14:23.02 | eneko | well what do you mean? |
| 14:23.55 | annma | if yo ucreate a new user to test, does it also happen? |
| 14:24.07 | annma | or did it happen after you upgrade your distribution? |
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| 14:25.33 | eneko | i havent tried |
| 14:25.44 | eneko | i will try |
| 14:25.47 | eneko | gimme a minute |
| 14:25.51 | eneko | and thankis in advance |
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| 14:51.38 | Toast | Hi, Kmail2 has stopped being able to write to it's database and I'm unable to read any of my emails. I get "NO Unable to write item changes into the database" under KMail Folders in Accounts/Reveiving in the setup menu. Please can someone point me to some good debugging information or help me please. |
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| 14:59.56 | ovidiu-florin | I can't send mail anymore in Kmail |
| 15:00.14 | ovidiu-florin | the settings have not changed |
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| 15:00.33 | ovidiu-florin | I upgraded to KDE 4.10.2 on kubuntu 12.10 with backports |
| 15:00.37 | ovidiu-florin | now I get this Failed to transport message. mail.computervoice.ro: Socket operation timed out |
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| 15:01.41 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, have you updated/upgraded since ? |
| 15:02.19 | ovidiu-florin | I have an update for kaccessible that I haven't installed yet... |
| 15:02.22 | BluesKaj | and try sudo updatedb |
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| 15:04.44 | ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: I'm checking for updates again... |
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| 15:09.52 | andre | ajudda |
| 15:10.06 | ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: done that. nodifference |
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| 15:12.09 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, ok open the kmenu and type akonadi , the start the server if it's not running |
| 15:12.15 | BluesKaj | then |
| 15:15.10 | ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/7ujB7LbZ |
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| 15:16.01 | Toast | Kmail has caused my nothing but trouble. Can any other email programs read it's message store? I read that Thunderbird might be able to import, but can't find anything definitive. |
| 15:16.10 | Toast | s/my/me |
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| 15:45.28 | ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj :the server was running |
| 15:46.11 | DrSlony | Hi, I want to keep my KDE4 using the lovely Air theme, but I want the bottom panel, the one with the clock and taskbar and K button, to use the dark Oxygen theme, how do I do that exactly? |
| 15:48.40 | BluesKaj | wel, ovidiu-florin I don't use kmail or akonadi or nepomuk or any PIM apps since I have no need for therm , so I'm out of ideas :( |
| 15:49.17 | ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: what do you use as an email client? |
| 15:50.02 | markand | my splash screen (default) is green :D |
| 15:50.10 | markand | what a weird bug |
| 15:50.33 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, thunderbird , it handles my ISP assigned email accts and gmail as well |
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| 15:51.17 | ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: why thunderbird over Kmail? (just curious) |
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| 15:52.23 | DaZ | all that akonadi stuff makes it kind of.. suck :c |
| 15:53.24 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, because kmail fails on my system , after a week or 2 it begins to segfault , and I doin't need a database server like akonadi for my emails since I'm a home user |
| 15:53.55 | BluesKaj | nor nepomuk |
| 15:55.33 | ovidiu-florin | I don't understand... what are akonadi and nepomuk exactly?? and why are they related to kmail? why isn't kmail standalone? |
| 15:56.24 | Sho_ | ovidiu-florin: Akonadi is what talks to the mail server and caches data locally so mail apps like KMail can access it |
| 15:56.53 | Sho_ | ovidiu-florin: Nepomuk is a database that is e.g. used to index mails so they can be searched |
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| 15:57.50 | ovidiu-florin | why are they separate allications? |
| 16:00.33 | DrSlony | ovidiu-florin there are easy-to-google guides that explain akonadi/nepomuk/theotherone nicely |
| 16:00.34 | BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, heh , good question , why akonadi at all as well, up until KDE4 kmail was great email client without the need for a database server . |
| 16:01.19 | DrSlony | akonadi nepomuk and strigi |
| 16:01.24 | DrSlony | the holy trinity |
| 16:01.25 | Toast | What format does Kmail2 store it's messages in? |
| 16:02.54 | ovidiu-florin | DrSlony: please point me to one such guide |
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| 16:05.04 | BluesKaj | DrSlony, you mean unholy, of course :) |
| 16:05.13 | ovidiu-florin | :)) |
| 16:05.24 | DrSlony | ovidiu-florin sorry cant fire up my web browser at the moment... i would have if i could :] |
| 16:05.28 | ovidiu-florin | strigi? that's new for me |
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| 16:06.23 | ovidiu-florin | I have to go for the moment BBL ;) |
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| 16:07.19 | DrSlony | BluesKaj well i think people react a bit too religiously to them, they make them into an evil monster and are almost ready to shoot the devs who created them... completely uwarranted ;] |
| 16:07.59 | DaZ | dunno, the devs are probably ok, but the soft doesn't seem to do what it's supposed to in my experience, so i just don't use it :v |
| 16:08.21 | DrSlony | it was very flaky at first, but now i have no issues |
| 16:08.25 | BluesKaj | DrSlony, well IME the devs haven't come up with a solution to the segfault problem and it's been around for yrs |
| 16:08.54 | DrSlony | in fact just today I renamed my ~/.kde4 so I started from scratch - and in doing so cleaning up old rubbish, invalid settings etc |
| 16:09.03 | DaZ | i've tried it recently, and besides the facts that it munched half of my memory and generated over9000 empty identities for kmail for no reason, it was ok i guess ;v |
| 16:09.21 | DrSlony | DaZ hehe neat, which version of kde4 was that? |
| 16:09.25 | DaZ | 4.10. |
| 16:09.43 | DrSlony | hope you reported it |
| 16:09.56 | DaZ | i think i didn't. |
| 16:10.03 | DrSlony | well then... :] |
| 16:10.26 | DaZ | maybe it's wad |
| 16:10.30 | DaZ | you never know :v |
| 16:10.37 | DrSlony | whats wad and IME? |
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| 16:10.54 | DaZ | ime? :v |
| 16:11.00 | DrSlony | BluesKaj used it |
| 16:11.19 | DrSlony | nevermind, i have to go |
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| 16:21.36 | drhouse123 | hi! i have netbook samsing n150 with intel gma 3150 and here small issue in kde, some windows are solid black (firefox and libreoffice). is it xorg issue? |
| 16:22.03 | drhouse123 | kde used on netbook is 4.10.1 |
| 16:22.46 | drhouse123 | alienBOB: it about slackware-current :) |
| 16:23.04 | drhouse123 | alienBOB: hi |
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| 16:26.53 | virusuy | OHOOO! Updating to KDE 4.10 :-D |
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| 16:30.31 | jjkinas | I am sorry for noob question , is there a way to move the application launcher all the way to the left hand side , so when i throw my cursor in the far bottom left of the screen i can click the application launcher ? right now it doesnt go far enough to the left when i move it |
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| 16:32.07 | vLassi | jjkinas: well, I'd have to answer: yes, yes it is possible But do yo have some additional items left of app launcher, and is your panel fully extended? |
| 16:32.36 | ZenGuy311 | is there a file manager like dolphin that can do live filtering? |
| 16:33.11 | DaZ | doesn't dolphin do that? ;v |
| 16:33.32 | vLassi | I was kinda thinking the same |
| 16:33.40 | vLassi | this is a trick question! :) |
| 16:34.11 | jjkinas | vLassi: my panel is fully extended and there is nothing to the left of the application launcher |
| 16:34.50 | ZenGuy311 | DaZ: yes but i also use xfce on linuxmint |
| 16:35.09 | DaZ | sucks to be you then. |
| 16:35.12 | vLassi | :P |
| 16:35.25 | vLassi | jjkinas: ok, then it's a bit hard to say... |
| 16:36.14 | jjkinas | thanks anyways |
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| 16:53.16 | jjkinas | one more question , is there a way to make the bottom left hot corner open up the application launcher ? i see the options for the corners but no option to make it open the launcher. |
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| 16:58.55 | aPpYe | so something in the oxygen-gtk theme is causing gnome-mplayer to show with a gray-black gradient background where it is black with any other theme. Any idea what line(s) should be added/changed in the configs? |
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| 16:59.45 | aPpYe | this is when selecting the theme via gtk-configuration in kde's application appearance setings |
| 17:00.09 | cb400f | you know there are a lot of kde/qt mplayer guis? (smplayer, umplayer, kmplayer) :-) |
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| 17:00.41 | aPpYe | cb400f, yeah, but those don't come with gecko-mediaplayer |
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| 17:01.05 | aPpYe | and that is the only one I know of that integrates into web browsers |
| 17:02.28 | cb400f | might wanna try asking in #oxygen |
| 17:02.38 | aPpYe | huh. okay thanks! |
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| 17:26.44 | jjkinas | A better way to word my question. Can Applcation launcher menu be moved far enough to the bottom left of the screen , so that it can be opened at coordinates x:0 y:1079 .. for me and my friend this does not appear posisble on the latest KDE |
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| 17:59.05 | erfanian | jjkinas: A hot corner for the application launcher would be cool, but why don't you just put a small panel in the same place and auto-hide it? |
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| 18:00.56 | erfanian | Or just assign a keyboard shortcut |
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| 18:14.27 | oldwhitemansays | Hi, please upvote this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314339 if you have it too |
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| 18:48.28 | slices | Did URL of GIT server changed? I can't access git.kde.org to push something to my repo. It says host unreachable. |
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| 18:50.29 | thiago | the URL did not change |
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| 18:57.34 | slices | doing: ssh git@git.kde.org returns: ssh: connect to host git.kde.org port 22: Network is unreachable |
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| 18:59.07 | slices | I guess I should be able to at least get a route, even if I'm kicked out. I get the same error msg when trying to push. But it worked in the past. |
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| 19:12.57 | slices | Ok, now it works again. Seems Ubuntu updated something and all ssh connections were not working anymore. After a reboot, everything is fine. Ready to push :-) |
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| 19:42.02 | slices | Does it make sense to backport a fix to KDE/4.9 or won't there any new bug fix releases of it? |
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| 19:46.08 | blueck | slices: kde stable is 4.10.x, there will be no releases 4.9.x from kde sources any more |
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| 19:49.47 | slices | @blueck: ok |
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| 19:51.16 | blueck | slices: maybe distros will pick up a patch for kde 4.9.x, but for kde 4.9 is dead |
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| 20:10.31 | azyr | hi, does anyone know how to setup 4 monitors (AMD GPU and Intel GPU) running on KDE? |
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| 20:21.00 | wyattg | so like you want one desktop across 4 screens w/ 2 gpu's? |
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| 20:21.22 | azyr | yes |
| 20:21.43 | azyr | 2 screens are on amd gpu and 2 screens on intel gpu |
| 20:21.51 | wyattg | I think you need to look into Xinerama |
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| 20:24.12 | azyr | ok, ill check it out |
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| 21:01.03 | jack | i once packaged a "skrooge" for kde3, for fink |
| 21:01.24 | jack | now wondering about the kde4 thing |
| 21:01.37 | jack | is it good already? |
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| 21:07.39 | huwie | hi. i can't get the social news widget to work. it won't accept my opendesktop credentials, even though the website accepts exactly the same ones. any ideas? |
| 21:09.23 | BluesKaj | jack, yes skrooge is available in the reposfor kde4 , and it loks like fink is now known as "whohas" |
| 21:10.11 | jack | lol? |
| 21:10.38 | jack | BluesKaj: i noticed there's a kde4-skrooge |
| 21:11.01 | jack | only wondering how mature/good it is |
| 21:11.39 | BluesKaj | dunno , never used it , kde4 is mature , been around or almost 4 yrs, jack |
| 21:11.53 | jack | i know :) |
| 21:12.41 | BluesKaj | skrooge in kde4 I mean |
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| 21:18.20 | Dhraakellian | misses being able to navigate the entire alt+F3 menu without having to use the arrow keys |
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| 21:22.55 | BluesKaj | Dhraakellian, right click on the titlebar |
| 21:23.16 | Dhraakellian | BluesKaj: yes, I know. let me rephrase |
| 21:23.20 | Dhraakellian | misses being able to navigate the entire alt+F3 menu without having to use the arrow keys or mouse |
| 21:24.41 | BluesKaj | and how did you do that without the mouse and arrow keys , Dhraakellian ? |
| 21:25.11 | Dhraakellian | there was a time when I could do something like <alt>+<F3>,<v>,<f> and get the window fullscreen |
| 21:25.54 | Dhraakellian | and such |
| 21:26.14 | Dhraakellian | alt+F3 is very nice to have |
| 21:26.25 | BluesKaj | ok , a KB navigator , not many left :) |
| 21:26.29 | hein | Dhraakellian: the "More Actions" submenu not having a keyboard accel is a bug, worth filing |
| 21:26.45 | Dhraakellian | yarr, was just thinking that |
| 21:26.51 | Dhraakellian | it's probably a really easy one too |
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| 21:27.02 | hein | yeah |
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| 21:27.39 | Dhraakellian | had I a build environment/git checkout lying around… |
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| 21:28.15 | jack | oha, tach hein |
| 21:28.20 | hein | moin jack |
| 21:28.29 | hein | jack: Skroove kde4 should be stable afaik |
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| 21:28.34 | hein | *Skrooge rather |
| 21:28.50 | Khas | Hiya. I've got a problem with the expansion buttons for trees - there only seems to be a single pixel that works for them, and it moves :-( I'm not even sure how to explain the problem properly |
| 21:29.22 | jack | frage: sind meine konversations in fink noch aktuell? |
| 21:29.25 | hein | Khas: Best would be to maybe cite an example app + reproduction instructions |
| 21:29.43 | hein | jack: 1.4 is latest stable and 1.5rc1 is latest pre-release, 1.5 final coming soon |
| 21:29.54 | jack | ok cool |
| 21:30.33 | Dhraakellian | I'm trying to remember exactly why I use quassel these days instead of konversation |
| 21:30.47 | hein | weakness of character |
| 21:30.49 | hein | I kid, I kid ;) |
| 21:30.53 | Dhraakellian | and I think it has to do mainly with quasseldroid and quassel2go |
| 21:30.55 | Dhraakellian | :) |
| 21:30.55 | jack | lol :P |
| 21:31.13 | jack | quassel is very popular atm |
| 21:31.28 | Dhraakellian | Quassel has some nice things going for it |
| 21:31.34 | Dhraakellian | but then, Konversation does too |
| 21:31.42 | jack | indeed |
| 21:31.45 | Khas | hein: currently, eclipse 4.2.2, trying to add new software from an update site, trying to expand the tree to get to the elements I need. Also in the eclipse preferences with all those buttons. Actually, it just seems to be eclipse o.o |
| 21:31.46 | Dhraakellian | like being able to use ^U to clear a line |
| 21:31.50 | Khas | I'm sure there was another app that did it though |
| 21:32.25 | hein | Khas: Eclipse basically has its own UI toolkit that also calls into GTK+ for some stuff, ... it's about as far from our area of competence as you can get since they use none of our tech stack |
| 21:32.36 | BluesKaj | konversation has been my fav for yrs |
| 21:32.46 | Dhraakellian | and %B, %U, %C escapes sequences for formatting (in channels where it's not considered bad form) |
| 21:33.55 | Khas | hein: yeah, I'm just sure there was something else, but it may be gtk too. I skin gtk using the oxygen engine, so sometimes it's hard to tell the difference XD |
| 21:35.23 | Dhraakellian | :) |
| 21:35.32 | Dhraakellian | once you have Oxygen, why use anything else? |
| 21:35.52 | Dhraakellian | especially if you like to switch between dark color schemes |
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| 21:38.03 | Khas | Dhraakellian: exactly :-D |
| 21:38.08 | Khas | I like Obsidian Coast. |
| 21:38.15 | Dhraakellian | Zvon black |
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| 21:38.57 | Khas | I tried that, the buttons pop out too much |
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| 22:02.52 | Moviuro | Hi all! I can't find how to tell amarok to repeat "ad vitam eternam" the current playlist... |
| 22:02.52 | Dhraakellian | entered |
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| 22:05.08 | Dhraakellian | to repeat a single time, right click the track and queue it |
| 22:05.37 | Dhraakellian | otherwise, there should be a "track progression" button at the bottom of the playlist |
| 22:05.53 | Moviuro | Dhraakellian: I asked for "ad vitam eternam" ie never ending |
| 22:06.05 | Dhraakellian | :) |
| 22:06.23 | Dhraakellian | sorry, I thought you were giving a name of a track or playlist |
| 22:06.32 | Dhraakellian | and I was going to comment on the appropriateness |
| 22:06.33 | Dhraakellian | :) |
| 22:07.09 | Dhraakellian | but yeah, there should be a track progression button at the bottom of the playlist that will let you choose the repeat mode |
| 22:07.26 | Moviuro | oh, ok |
| 22:07.38 | Moviuro | well, that's a hidden feature... |
| 22:08.01 | Dhraakellian | not if you know where to look |
| 22:08.03 | Dhraakellian | :) |
| 22:08.12 | Dhraakellian | but the icon could probably be more obvious |
| 22:08.28 | Moviuro | I completely agree |
| 22:09.15 | Moviuro | thanks Dhraakellian :) |
| 22:09.23 | Dhraakellian | no problem |
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| 22:22.46 | jjkinas | erfanian: Earlier you were saying to me, make a small panel in the same place and auto-hide it , if your still around can you explain a little bit more on that , i dont understand. i am really just trying to open the application launcher menu , when i click in the very bottom left corner (its probably a habbit i have from windows) |
| 22:24.08 | hein | That should work just fine |
| 22:24.44 | hein | Make sure you have maximized the panel |
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| 22:25.18 | jjkinas | i have the bottom panel completly maximized from more settings in panel settings |
| 22:25.35 | hein | Then it should work - it works here |
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| 22:26.03 | jjkinas | if you click in the bottom far left corner ? as far as your mouse will go into the bottom left corner ? |
| 22:26.11 | hein | yeah |
| 22:26.17 | jjkinas | it is like there is a border around the button |
| 22:26.21 | jjkinas | around the K icon i mean |
| 22:26.38 | jjkinas | but there is nothing to the left of it , and it is moved as far as it can go over |
| 22:26.38 | hein | Yes, there's a 1px border, but the click area extends into that anyway |
| 22:26.52 | hein | That is actually a UI basic rule known as Fitts' Law |
| 22:27.06 | jjkinas | then this is a bug , my friend has the exact same problem , we are both having the problem on the latest version of KDE with arch linux |
| 22:27.07 | hein | Basically, you have to be pretty fucking stupid if you don't make that work |
| 22:27.44 | hein | (as a dev, I mean) |
| 22:27.49 | jjkinas | i dont know if it was this way before , because i used to always use gnome |
| 22:27.51 | jjkinas | yah |
| 22:27.55 | freislot_RU_ru | hello all |
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| 22:32.14 | thewizord | once two monitors are set up my right-most non primary display is where all windows open after an application launch |
| 22:32.29 | thewizord | anyway to reduce this or change it? I've already ste the option for primary output on kde size and oreination |
| 22:38.23 | Moviuro | is there any way to get Skype integrate even a tiny little bit better into KDE ? |
| 22:38.47 | thiago | besides using the Oxygen style? |
| 22:39.00 | Moviuro | thiago: I use bespin... |
| 22:39.13 | thiago | Moviuro: ok, so besides using the bespin style? |
| 22:39.29 | Moviuro | I can't understand it's written in Qt and it does not use the good theme :( |
| 22:39.43 | thiago | tell it to use the good theme |
| 22:40.12 | thiago | in its options, set the style to "Desktop settings" |
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| 22:42.35 | Moviuro | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/08/plasma-desktopQi1406.png |
| 22:43.17 | thiago | there you go |
| 22:43.22 | thiago | it's as integrated as it gets |
| 22:44.02 | hein | thiago: Well in that shot it's using Plastique |
| 22:44.23 | Moviuro | well... I assume it's part of Microlost's intent to make it unusable on something else than Windope :@ |
| 22:44.37 | Moviuro | I'll go and use Mumble instead |
| 22:44.47 | thiago | make sure you have the 32-bit version of the plugin installed |
| 22:44.53 | Moviuro | thx anyways thiago ;) |
| 22:44.59 | hein | Moviuro: It's probably because it ships its own binary copy of Qt instead of using the system one |
| 22:45.02 | Moviuro | thiago: which plugin ? |
| 22:45.06 | thiago | of the style plugin |
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| 22:45.30 | Moviuro | well, I build bespin from svn |
| 22:45.33 | thiago | it doesn't do that |
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| 22:45.38 | thiago | it uses the system Qt |
| 22:45.46 | thiago | so just make sure that the system Qt can load the plugin |
| 22:46.01 | thiago | remember: the 32-bit version of the plugin |
| 22:46.05 | Moviuro | thiago: you're starting to speak chinese :) |
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| 22:46.26 | thiago | skype links to the system Qt. To make skype use Bespin, make sure that the system Qt can see the plugin. |
| 22:46.35 | thiago | so install the plugin at a place where the system Qt can find it. |
| 22:46.57 | Moviuro | and how do I knw which plugins Qt can see? |
| 22:47.37 | thiago | run qtconfig |
| 22:47.43 | thiago | the 32-bit version of that program |
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| 23:04.54 | erfanian | jjkinas: Are you sure there are no spacer widgets on the panel that are preventing the application launcher from being on the left? |
| 23:07.49 | erfanian | jjkinas: perhaps you could post a link to a picture of the problem? |
| 23:09.59 | hein | Yeah, a screenshot would be great |
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| 23:10.12 | Einzig_ | http://bit.ly/10w6OVY that's *a* problem at least. |
| 23:10.22 | Einzig_ | (sorry, couldn't resist) |
| 23:11.01 | hein | Sorry, please no porn |
| 23:11.10 | Einzig_ | erm, it's an eel |
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| 23:11.38 | hein | Just continueing the joke |
| 23:12.09 | Einzig_ | ah ok :) |
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| 23:23.41 | jjkinas | erfanian: sorry i am back , yes of course i could post a picture |
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| 23:30.08 | jjkinas | erfanian: hein: http://i.imgur.com/Aixw20r.jpg |
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| 23:30.46 | hein | jjkinas: Hmm the gap on the left seems wider then what I have here |
| 23:32.18 | hein | jjkinas: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/08/plasma-desktopnW4839.png - the border seems to change with scaling to a degree, but it stays largely uniform at the bottom and on the left, while yours is pushed disproportionally at the left |
| 23:33.04 | jjkinas | hmm , i am sure there is nothing to the left of the K i have rebuilt the panel , i can not push it that far over to the left as in your link , it bounces back |
| 23:33.05 | hein | jjkinas: It's the standard "Application Launcher" widget in my case |
| 23:33.31 | jjkinas | i tried traditional and standard |
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| 23:34.00 | hein | I'm on 4.10.2, but I can't say I've noticed any changes across the last ... well, any versions really |
| 23:34.08 | jjkinas | i am on 4.10.2 with arch linux |
| 23:34.15 | hein | Fedora here |
| 23:34.24 | hein | jjkinas: I'm wondering if it's maybe theme-related |
| 23:34.31 | jjkinas | my friend , total linux guru is on 4.10.2 with arch linux too and he said he had the same problem |
| 23:34.38 | hein | Can you try switching to Oxygen in Workspace Appearance for a moment? |
| 23:34.41 | hein | err |
| 23:34.44 | hein | Air, not Oxygen |
| 23:34.49 | jjkinas | ooooo good idea i will put it all back to default |
| 23:35.26 | hein | jjkinas: Here's the thing, the panel theming is provided by a so-called "nine-patch" SVG, i.e. it's a SVG graphic with nine elements for every edge, corner and the middle |
| 23:35.49 | hein | jjkinas: Now, when a panel is maximized, normally the left and right edge theme elements are not used but removed, since the panel is touching the screen edges |
| 23:36.02 | hein | jjkinas: But maybe themes can override that, or there's a bug causing that not to happen properly |
| 23:36.41 | hein | (replace "left" and "right" with any other screen edges it might tocuh, e.g. with a vertical panel it's top/bottom of course) |
| 23:37.12 | jjkinas | hmm |
| 23:37.54 | erfanian | Yeah looks like the cashew on the right is equally spaced from the trashcan. Hein might be on to something. |
| 23:38.22 | hein | erfanian: actually that might disprove my theory |
| 23:38.31 | hein | because the theme edge element would come after the cashew |
| 23:38.48 | hein | dunno tho |
| 23:38.54 | hein | still worth a try |
| 23:39.08 | jjkinas | it was the theme , wow |
| 23:39.10 | jjkinas | i feel dumb |
| 23:39.18 | jjkinas | :) thanks everyone for your help |
| 23:39.31 | jjkinas | the theme that caused it was called air-black |
| 23:39.31 | erfanian | no worries jjkinas |
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| 23:39.53 | erfanian | Loks like a nice theme |
| 23:39.58 | erfanian | s/loks/looks |
| 23:39.58 | hein | Still interesting that a theme can cause that to begin with |
| 23:40.08 | hein | should take a closer look some time |
| 23:40.56 | jjkinas | so if i move it to the edge with default theme , then i go back to my theme it works |
| 23:41.25 | hein | funky |
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| 23:42.25 | jjkinas | well , thanks again for your help , this was the only thing bothering me on KDE , i switched for the increase in steam game performance , proabbly because of the setting to stop fullscreen windows from using effects |
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| 23:42.56 | hein | happy to help |
| 23:42.56 | jjkinas | at any rate i love KDE now after being a gnome fan for years and years :) |
| 23:43.03 | hein | :) |
| 23:43.07 | jjkinas | bye |
| 23:43.14 | erfanian | jjkinas: File that bug please |
| 23:43.36 | jjkinas | it was very hard for me to word the problem :) |
| 23:43.45 | jjkinas | hmmm i think i can figure it out though |
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| 23:44.11 | jjkinas | i will file the bug , bye |
| 23:44.21 | erfanian | ciao |
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