| 00:02.03 | Sho_ | juancarlospaco: yeah it's quite cool |
| 00:02.39 | juancarlospaco | it smells like QML Sho_ |
| 00:03.09 | juancarlospaco | good, I hope to find a documentation how to do a GUI like that... |
| 00:05.02 | Sho_ | juancarlospaco: Yes, it is QML |
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| 02:28.04 | fede | hi, anybody knows how to get rid of the shadow of the kde panel? |
| 02:30.53 | Sho_ | fede: The shadows are part of the theme |
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| 02:35.45 | fede | where are theme files located? I want to edit the theme |
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| 04:06.53 | len | Kmail and Kontact 4.10 don't remember their size when you close them on the right monitor in a dual monitor setup. Any resizing to on the righthand monitor will be lost on close. |
| 04:07.31 | len | If you move Kmail or Kontact to the Left monitor and close it will be remembered. |
| 04:07.52 | len | But my right monito is my primary one, so this is not so convenient. |
| 04:10.42 | len | Unless of course this bug has been fixed in 4.10.1 or 4.10.2. I'm using 4.10.0. |
| 04:11.59 | BluesKaj | len: rigfht clic on the titlebar of the app window and choose "more actions" > "special apps settings" > size and position tab., check position and size for then remember for both |
| 04:12.53 | len | I know how to do that, but that is using Kwin to cover for a kde-pim bug. |
| 04:12.58 | BluesKaj | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.33 | BluesKaj | hmm , ok I don't use any of the pim apps |
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| 04:14.04 | len | Neither do I, but I looking to see if they deserve another chance. |
| 04:14.31 | len | Supposedly they've done a lot of work on them but maybe they still aren't ready for prime time. |
| 04:15.01 | len | Thought I'd give them another look since Mozilla anounced they really don't care about Thunderbird anymore. |
| 04:15.09 | BluesKaj | len , it's not a requirement for most home users like mw |
| 04:15.18 | BluesKaj | err me |
| 04:15.28 | len | What is not a requirement? |
| 04:16.30 | BluesKaj | akonadi server and the database |
| 04:17.17 | BluesKaj | thunderbird email is sufficient for my needs |
| 04:17.39 | len | Well they seem to have tamed it now, so unless you have a really underpowered computer, I don't think you need to disable that stuff anymore even if you don't think you need it. |
| 04:17.54 | BluesKaj | when did mozilla say that? |
| 04:19.02 | len | Back in July. They want to put all their resoures into a fail attempt at a Firefox OS that nobody wants so they announced they are planning to neglect Thunderbird |
| 04:19.34 | len | Cause they think everyone only cares about underpowered web mail now. |
| 04:20.10 | len | Already have Chomre OS. They missed that boat. |
| 04:20.17 | BluesKaj | hmm , never heard that , but it seems to updating/upgrading every so often |
| 04:21.10 | len | Said they'd continue with bug fixes and let "the community" add new feature if they want. |
| 04:21.23 | len | ie they don't want to spend any money on it |
| 04:21.46 | len | And want to pour all their resouces down the Firefox OS hole |
| 04:21.51 | BluesKaj | sorry to hear that |
| 04:22.01 | len | I's a shame if you ask me. |
| 04:22.35 | len | They must be taking advice from the Gnome project :) |
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| 04:23.04 | BluesKaj | yeah , hope they have a change of heart , not a chromium fan |
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| 04:23.36 | BluesKaj | or gmail i mean |
| 04:23.37 | len | It would be nice if LibreOffice would fork it and add it to the suite if Mozilla doesn't want to give it any love. |
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| 04:23.46 | len | They did wonders for OpenOffice. |
| 04:24.08 | BluesKaj | well anyway, it's sack time here ...g'night |
| 04:24.18 | len | Goodnight |
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| 10:21.14 | qqz | startkde crashes at me |
| 10:21.54 | qqz | I don`t have any package named kded or any executable named like this. |
| 10:22.27 | qqz | is it still required for kde4? |
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| 10:39.22 | annma | qqz: what distribution is it? |
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| 10:51.15 | qqz | debian testing |
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| 10:51.54 | hateball | qqz: plasma-desktop |
| 10:52.16 | hateball | but I may be wrong, of course |
| 10:52.16 | qqz | i guess: kdeinit4 kded4 |
| 10:52.31 | qqz | but does that start all kded4 modules |
| 10:52.56 | qqz | I do get no kded4 in the qdbus listing either way |
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| 10:53.34 | qqz | via a konqueror plugin? |
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| 13:15.49 | altin_ | how can I change the lock screen wallpaper ? |
| 13:16.15 | Cymew | Am I dreaming, or isn't it possible to drag and drop tabs between konsole windows, or have I just wished it was possible? |
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| 13:17.31 | Jucato | Cymew: if you mean reordering the tabs, just drag and drop normally with the left mouse button |
| 13:17.31 | Inkane | Cymew: it is possible |
| 13:17.52 | Inkane | just make sure you move it to the tab area |
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| 13:17.58 | Inkane | and not the text area |
| 13:18.01 | Inkane | else it won't work |
| 13:18.14 | Jucato | altin_: in the lock screen, just right-click and select Settings then you can change the wallpaper |
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| 13:19.00 | altin_ | Jucato, right click is not working |
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| 13:19.25 | Cymew | Inkane: But that's reordering within one window, right? Is it possible to drag it to another window? |
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| 13:19.37 | Inkane | Cymew: no, I meant multiple windows |
| 13:19.43 | Inkane | works fine here on 4.10 |
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| 13:19.45 | Cymew | ok |
| 13:19.46 | Jucato | altin_: can you see an icon in the top right corner of the lock screen like a cashew? you can click on that too and select Settings |
| 13:19.56 | Cymew | odd, wonder what I'm doing wrong |
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| 13:21.12 | Jucato | Cymew: as Inkane said, be sure to drag the tab to the other window's tab bar area. you should notice a green arrow when you are allowed to make a drop |
| 13:21.33 | altin_ | Jucato, hmm well the problem is that I can't find that icon |
| 13:21.39 | altin_ | nor can I right click |
| 13:21.42 | Jucato | altin_: what version of KDE? |
| 13:22.20 | altin_ | Juan, 4.10 |
| 13:22.25 | altin_ | 4.10.1 |
| 13:22.39 | altin_ | Jucato, ** |
| 13:23.32 | Jucato | same here. we are talking about the same "lock screen" right? the one that shows up when you press Ctrl+Alt+L or right-click on the desktop and select Lock Screen? |
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| 13:23.52 | Cymew | Jucato: I just see the black circle with a dash through it. Oh well, at least I know it could work (I'm running 4.10.1 btw) |
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| 13:24.20 | Jucato | Cymew: where are you trying to drag the tab to? what part of the window? |
| 13:24.28 | altin_ | Jucato, yes :/ |
| 13:24.49 | altin_ | I am on arch though |
| 13:25.14 | Jucato | altin_: ah I think I get it. go to system settings -> Display and Monitor -> Screen Locker -> and select "Desktop Widgets" for the Screen locker type |
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| 13:26.23 | Jucato | Cymew: by any chance, do you have Konsole set to always show the tab bar? |
| 13:27.05 | Jucato | (Settings -> Configure Konsole -> Tab Bar) |
| 13:29.07 | altin_ | Jucato, thanks, that worked :) |
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| 13:31.26 | Jucato | you're welcome |
| 13:32.29 | Cymew | Jucato: I'm dragging it to the other tabs, just like when I drag then within a window. I have the tabs set to always show. Way to confusing to use tabs otherwise, I think. |
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| 13:33.06 | Jucato | Cymew: hm .. ok them I'm not sure what could be happening |
| 13:33.10 | Jucato | s/them/then/ |
| 13:33.32 | altin_ | Jucato, I have one more problem... |
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| 13:34.01 | altin_ | When I change the colors of my theme under applicatin appearance > Colors |
| 13:34.17 | altin_ | everything on the web browser changes as welll |
| 13:34.22 | altin_ | like fields, checkboxes |
| 13:34.24 | altin_ | and all those |
| 13:34.27 | Cymew | I'll try it on my other machine at home and see if there's a difference. I'm pretty sure I had done it before, but wanted to check now when it didn't work. Great feature when it works. ;) In general 4.9 really blew me away. Incredibly good stuff, and 4.10 isn't exactly worse. :D |
| 13:34.37 | altin_ | is there some way that I can fix this |
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| 13:35.29 | Jucato | altin_: what browser are you usiing? I'm actually not sure on the proper solution for that. I even have that problem with non-KDE browsers (Firefox). |
| 13:36.02 | altin_ | Jucato, yes I use Firefox |
| 13:38.04 | Jucato | sorry, I have no answer to that one |
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| 13:40.20 | altin_ | Jucato, fixed it |
| 13:40.33 | Jucato | how? |
| 13:40.57 | altin_ | Jucato, jut uncheck Apply colors to non KDE applications |
| 13:41.04 | Jucato | (aside from editing some firefox css) |
| 13:41.04 | altin_ | in Color > Options (tab) |
| 13:41.10 | Jucato | it still doesn't work for some pages |
| 13:41.13 | altin_ | and restart the browser |
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| 13:41.23 | Jucato | but I think that's more the fault of the web page/css |
| 13:41.26 | altin_ | Jucato, how about removing any ~/.gtk* |
| 13:42.36 | Jucato | nah |
| 13:43.22 | altin_ | well I'm happy I got this wokring in my laptop at least XD |
| 13:43.28 | Jucato | :) |
| 13:43.32 | altin_ | thnx for helping Jucato |
| 13:43.37 | Jucato | you're welcome |
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| 14:17.44 | debianN00b | what is the latest version Kate? |
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| 14:20.48 | Jucato | 3.10.1 (for KDE 4.10.1) |
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| 14:23.59 | debianN00b | Thanks, |
| 14:24.31 | debianN00b | Jucato, perhaps Kate latest is much more good? |
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| 14:26.29 | debianN00b | Jucato, Is there any new futures in latest kate? |
| 14:26.54 | debianN00b | Not sure how i can upgrade kate in Debian |
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| 14:27.16 | debianN00b | Kate: 3.8.4 here |
| 14:27.31 | Jucato | I'm sure there are. but I'm not familiar with the exact details. maybe you can search in http://kate-editor.org/ |
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| 14:27.54 | Jucato | kate is usually released together with KDE releases, so you can probably upgrade kate only when Debian offers KDE upgrades |
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| 14:30.39 | debianN00b | Yes, Not sure when debian will offer the upgrade |
| 14:31.07 | debianN00b | Jucato, You are using Ubuntu/Kubuntu? |
| 14:31.21 | Jucato | no |
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| 14:39.45 | altin_ | oops wrong channel XD |
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| 14:47.47 | onebitxajax | hi to all |
| 14:48.28 | onebitxajax | i have this problem. i don't have mousepad cnfiguration in system setting http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/03/plasma-desktopAK3254.png . But i can mouve the mouse using mouepad |
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| 14:49.51 | cb400f | touchpad? .. install the package synaptiks |
| 14:50.35 | onebitxajax | cb400f: synaptiks ? |
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| 14:50.58 | cb400f | yes, synaptiks is the package providing the touchpad kcm |
| 14:51.00 | Jucato | or look for a package in your distro like "kcm_touchpad" |
| 14:51.01 | onebitxajax | kde-config-touchpad |
| 14:51.10 | onebitxajax | this one i find |
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| 14:51.48 | cb400f | well.. that's why you should talk to your distro.. so we don't have to guess what packages are available and how they're named |
| 14:52.31 | onebitxajax | sorry thanks very much |
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| 15:04.35 | onebitxajax | solved, thanks to all |
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| 15:59.29 | Artox | Hi |
| 15:59.40 | Artox | I have been wondering about a problem with some desktop effects on my system |
| 15:59.43 | Artox | http://paste.opensuse.org/33287678 |
| 15:59.49 | Artox | kwin(23835) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect "kwin4_effect_blur" is not supported |
| 15:59.52 | Artox | this sort of error |
| 15:59.56 | Artox | happens for wobbly windows too |
| 16:00.15 | Artox | the verbose message I get in system settings says that OpenGL is required and not supported |
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| 16:27.59 | arkascha | After a fresh install the desktop effects complain about openGL missing. |
| 16:28.10 | arkascha | It is a nvidia card using the proprietary driver. |
| 16:28.37 | arkascha | Actually the gl extension IS present, glxgears runs fine, glxinfo reports direct rendering as true. |
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| 16:28.59 | arkascha | KDE-4.5.10 packages from the openSUSE repositories. |
| 16:29.07 | arkascha | Anyone got an idea about that? |
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| 17:03.40 | Mamarok | arkascha: 4.5.10? Are you sure about that version number? Or did you mean 4.10.x? |
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| 17:07.45 | ezakimak | is there a way to tell the task bar to exclude a specific window from being grouped? |
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| 17:22.53 | Taoki | Hello. Anyone know why since I upgraded from 4.9.5 to 4.10.0 large icons are blurred and not scaled properly throughout the system? |
| 17:22.59 | Taoki | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316801 Bug explaoining exactly what's going on |
| 17:23.21 | Taoki | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=p7itj&s=6 Image of the problem (see it at full size) |
| 17:23.47 | Taoki | http://oi45.tinypic.com/p7itj.jpg is actually a better link |
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| 17:24.51 | cb400f | you have oxygen-icon-theme-scalable installed? |
| 17:25.24 | Taoki | cb400f: No. Just the normal Oxygen theme I had before which worked |
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| 17:25.30 | Taoki | Under Icon themes |
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| 17:25.36 | Mamarok | Taoki: also stating your distribution in the bug report would be a good idea as well |
| 17:25.50 | Taoki | Oh... openSUSE 12.3 |
| 17:25.54 | Taoki | Yeah should have done that |
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| 17:26.27 | Taoki | Is anyone familiar with this problem and knows how to fix? |
| 17:27.12 | Mamarok | no, I have never seen that |
| 17:27.35 | cb400f | how about trying to install oxygen-icon-theme-large and oxygen-icon-theme-scalable for starters |
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| 17:27.55 | Taoki | Erm... the oxygen-icon-theme-scalable package exists but is not installed. Just realized that... I will install them now |
| 17:28.02 | Taoki | I wonder if they got uninstalled for some reason |
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| 17:28.12 | Taoki | also oxgen-icon-theme-large |
| 17:28.46 | Taoki | I wonder how and if they got uninstalled during my distro upgrade |
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| 17:31.19 | Taoki | Haha... now it works. Those packages were it, I didn't know about them. Also have NO idea why my distro update uninstalled them |
| 17:31.28 | Taoki | Thanks cb400f. Will update the bug report as well |
| 17:31.52 | cb400f | good |
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| 17:35.17 | arkascha | Mamarok: sorry, obviously I was wrong: KDE-4.10. :-) |
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| 18:23.27 | mishke | how to enable shutdown/reboot buttons in KDE menu?( |
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| 18:25.27 | guestx | what do you mean with "enable"? They show but don't work or they don't even show? |
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| 18:26.03 | thiago | mishke: did you log in using kdm? |
| 18:26.17 | mishke | thiago: only SLIM only hardcore |
| 18:26.28 | thiago | then log in using kdm |
| 18:26.57 | mishke | thiago: its one path to fix it?:D |
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| 18:27.04 | thiago | yes |
| 18:27.14 | thiago | if you log in via kdm, you can have those buttons |
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| 18:27.24 | thiago | if you log in via any other way, you don't get those buttons |
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| 18:27.32 | mishke | thiago: thx |
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| 19:20.42 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.10 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 19:26.31 | ArchGamer | lufie_: Yes KDE can utilize 3 monitors |
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| 19:26.50 | lufie_ | with 3 display cards ? |
| 19:27.00 | ArchGamer | lufie_ that is more of a driver issue than KDE. |
| 19:27.24 | lufie_ | i will do this with 3 nvidia cards |
| 19:27.50 | lufie_ | but if i enable xinerama it works but effects disabled |
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| 19:28.24 | Moviuro | lufie_: is xinemarra mandatory? |
| 19:28.29 | lufie_ | with xinerama disabled only one monitor works |
| 19:28.56 | Moviuro | just using xorg.conf or xorg.d should be enough... espescially if you don't plan moving one or more monitors away |
| 19:28.59 | lufie_ | would be nice to move windows but is not must have |
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| 19:29.45 | lufie_ | if i disable xinerama only one monitor will work |
| 19:30.27 | Moviuro | lufie_: did you ever look at the xorg conf files? everything should be customizable from there |
| 19:30.41 | lufie_ | if i change xorg to use rightof i can move the mouse to screen 1 / 2 but can not go back to 0 |
| 19:31.30 | ArchGamer | lufie_ gimme a sec I am going to go afk for like 2 min. I will answer all of this in a sec if I can. |
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| 19:43.20 | ArchGamer | okay |
| 19:43.37 | ArchGamer | xinemarra... let's see. |
| 19:44.12 | ArchGamer | lufie_ nvidia or amd? |
| 19:44.30 | ArchGamer | lufie_ type of cards? |
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| 19:59.50 | ArchGamer | lufie_ xinerama -- okay now I know what xinerama is XD u still about? |
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| 20:32.54 | shane__ | Or would be able to pint me in the right direction to accomplish this task. I really like that feature. |
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| 22:17.33 | lnxslck | hello guys |
| 22:17.45 | lnxslck | what's the name of the KDE button? |
| 22:17.47 | lnxslck | the main one |
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| 22:29.55 | armin | lnxslck: kickoff application launcher |
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| 22:53.32 | lnxslck | armin, thanks, i want to set up a keyboard shortcut for it, and i can't find it's name |
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| 23:25.21 | wolftune | what do people recommend for password management? Keepassx? Is KWallet actually a functional password manager like that? |
| 23:26.35 | 77CAAVI1N | Kwallet is what I use |
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| 23:39.53 | Tanktalus | wolftune, I use kwallet, too. |
| 23:40.12 | wolftune | hmm ok |
| 23:40.19 | wolftune | for like all sorts of passwords? |
| 23:40.28 | wolftune | I've never really looked into how to use it |
| 23:40.45 | wolftune | kwallet competes with keepass / keepassx ? |
| 23:40.57 | wolftune | has similar features? |
| 23:41.08 | Tanktalus | Never used keepass. |
| 23:41.23 | Tanktalus | But I use it for my passwords in both konqueror and chrome |
| 23:41.33 | wolftune | hmm |
| 23:41.37 | wolftune | does it work with Firefox? |
| 23:41.40 | Tanktalus | As well as some perl scripts (using Net::DBUS to communicate with it). |
| 23:42.11 | Tanktalus | never tried with firefox. |
| 23:42.20 | Tanktalus | Though now that you mention it, that'd be VERY handy... |
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| 23:43.42 | neverendingo | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/?content=116886 |
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| 23:45.20 | wolftune | neverendingo: thanks looks neat! |
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