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| 00:07.17 | ry_ | I need help getting my computer to recognize my virgin mobile 3G usb thingy. It is automatically recognized when I use Gnome3 (I'm using Kali Linux right now because it has Gnome and I need the adaptor) and it allows me to configure it, but when I boot into kubuntu, networkmanager isn't automatically recognizing it. |
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| 00:09.37 | ry_ | The model is Virgin Mobile 3G/4G U600.' |
| 00:11.45 | ry_ | Or is networkmanager not a kde package? |
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| 01:14.38 | xyz32 | hello |
| 01:14.55 | xyz32 | is there a place where I can get more animated wallpapers |
| 01:15.33 | Kitzu | there are animated wallpapers? :D |
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| 01:16.12 | godhack | hi |
| 01:16.35 | godhack | how do I get the current containment group id in plasma-desktop-appletsrc ?? |
| 01:17.40 | godhack | I need to know the "Group ID" for: kreadconfig --file plasma-desktop-appletsrc --group Containments --group 1 --group Wallpaper --group image --key wallpaper |
| 01:18.02 | godhack | because "1" can be ANY group id :/ I'm totally lost |
| 01:18.58 | godhack | ok.. can you tell me what a containment group id need for?? I don't have "grouped desktop" |
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| 02:03.54 | roasted | hello |
| 02:04.29 | roasted | I'm trying to figure out how to record audio in Kubuntu. Simple task, right? Tried multiple machines, multiple microphones... Audacity just doesn't work. Pegs the channel at 100% and records nothing but garble. |
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| 02:20.42 | godhack | hello |
| 02:21.06 | godhack | would you please tell me howto get the currentConfigGroupID in the interactive console? |
| 02:21.49 | godhack | This doesn't print the currentConfigGroup: var activity = activities()[0]; activity.currentConfigGroup = new Array("Wallpaper", "image"); print(activities()); |
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| 02:22.23 | godhack | sorry the last statement should be: print(activity); |
| 02:22.47 | godhack | What I get is: WorkspaceScripting::Containment(name = "") |
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| 02:38.59 | godhack | ist there something like compiz --replace for "plasma-desktop" ?? |
| 02:42.14 | Jucato | you mean like restarting it? no exactly --replace but, run "kquitapp plasma-desktop", wait for a few seconds then run "plasma-desktop" to start it again |
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| 02:42.38 | Jucato | also, #plasma might be of more help, though probably not at this hour. you can try though |
| 02:47.33 | godhack | oh I didn't there is such chan. thanks Jucato |
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| 02:48.24 | godhack | Jucato: I just want to change the wallpaper through a shell script and I'm pretty far (it works), but I can't see the changes without restarting plasma, which is a bummer |
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| 02:48.52 | godhack | Jucato: Is there a better way than restarting plasma? |
| 02:49.42 | Jucato | sorry, I don't know. I'm sure there's a javascript way to change the wallpaper without restarting plasma, I just don't know how |
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| 02:51.38 | godhack | Jucato: look at line 88 https://gist.github.com/X4/5197205 |
| 02:51.58 | godhack | That's the javascript. I do a activity.reloadConfig(); |
| 02:52.11 | godhack | I even run: qdbus org.kde.plasma-desktop /MainApplication reparseConfiguration |
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| 02:52.48 | Jucato | http://blog.zx2c4.com/699 i saw this. didn't test it though |
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| 02:53.02 | godhack | without success. I think restarting plasma is unaccptable. |
| 02:53.36 | roasted | hi hey hello audio recording not work in kubuntu? |
| 02:54.12 | godhack | Jucato: yeah, that's where I have that from. But it won't change the wallpaper too. Guess it also needs the plasma restart |
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| 02:54.49 | godhack | idk, if that's a bug or if I'm missing a qdbus or javascript command |
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| 02:55.50 | Jucato | or maybe things updated and that's no longer valid. anyway, I'd suggest waiting for an answer from the plasma guys. I have absolutely no idea how to properly do it |
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| 03:12.08 | roasted | What is the proper way to switch which microphone you want to use in KDE? |
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| 03:13.02 | lun4tic | Hi, can a plasmoid make a taskbar grow or are they static in size? |
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| 03:14.28 | Jucato | lun4tic: the taskbar actually "grows" to take up all available space. you can limit it's size somewhat by using a spacer (whose size you can set manually) |
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| 03:15.51 | lun4tic | Jucato: but can you do it the other way round? I wanna try to create some OSX dock like taskbar. all available "icon taskbar" plasmoids are unable to make the bar larger if more space is needed so they just shrink the icons |
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| 03:16.10 | lun4tic | Jucato: so the taskbar needs to be as small as possible |
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| 03:17.35 | Jucato | lun4tic: um wait. by taskbar I mean the part of the panel that shows the current running windows. are you referring instead to the whole panel? |
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| 03:18.02 | lun4tic | yes |
| 03:18.39 | lun4tic | Jucato: I mean is it possible for the window list plasmoid/widget to make the panel larger without the user setting any limits |
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| 03:22.48 | Jucato | lun4tic: you know how to resize the panel right? there are 2 pairs of arrows on each side with |<- and->| |
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| 03:23.47 | Jucato | the ones that are pointing inwards (->| on the left and |<- on the right) set the minimum size of the panel. the ones pointing outward set the max size that the panel can grow when more items are added |
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| 03:27.20 | lun4tic_ | Jucato: thx for clearing that up. I havent used KDE for quite a while. the early 4.0 versions scared me away :D |
| 03:29.19 | lun4tic_ | Jucato: must be related to some of the tasks plasmoids not being able to resize. that made me think that setting a maximum size has no effect. |
| 03:29.31 | lun4tic_ | gn8 :) |
| 03:29.41 | Jucato | much has changed since 4.0 :) |
| 03:29.49 | lun4tic_ | i know thats why I'm back |
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| 03:30.17 | lun4tic_ | unity and Kubuntu scared me away from Ubuntu and back to good ol' OpenSuse :D |
| 03:30.32 | lun4tic_ | i started using Linux with SuSE 6.3 :D |
| 03:31.06 | roasted | hi |
| 03:31.13 | roasted | What's the proper way to select an alternative microphone source in KDE? |
| 03:31.29 | roasted | It's braindead easy in Gnome and Unity but I cannot figure it out in KDE and it's about to give me gray hair. |
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| 03:36.44 | Jucato | roasted: hm I just tried mine and it recorded just fine, though there's a bit of garbage, probably from being too sensitive. have you checked kmix option and the Audio Setup settings? |
| 03:37.30 | roasted | Jucato: I've been in there many times in the last 2 hours. |
| 03:37.30 | Jucato | click on the volume icon, select Mixer, check the Capture Devices tab, or go to Settings -> Audio Setup |
| 03:37.55 | roasted | and what am I to do under capture devices? Uncheck everything except the mic I want to use? |
| 03:38.16 | Jucato | yeah |
| 03:38.35 | Jucato | you can check the available capture devices in Phonon settings (Settings -> Audio Setup in KMix) |
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| 03:38.55 | roasted | Jucato: I did that |
| 03:39.12 | roasted | Jucato: I have only my USB Mic plugged in now, it's the only thing checked under capture devices, yet Audacity still won't record. |
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| 03:39.22 | roasted | But I know this setup works because I dual boot Ubuntu with Gnome 3 and it works 100% flawless there. |
| 03:41.06 | roasted | It pains me to know that I just may have to install Gnome on my laptop... JUST to record audio... |
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| 03:41.18 | Jucato | yeah :( |
| 03:41.31 | Jucato | it may be nothing, but what backend are you using in the Audio Setup? |
| 03:41.31 | roasted | I mean, am I doing anything wrong? |
| 03:41.39 | roasted | gstreamer is the only backend listed |
| 03:42.07 | Jucato | you sure nothing's being recorded? I mean in my case, there's a lot of loud noise, but I can also hear my voice |
| 03:42.25 | Jucato | iin audacity (i'm guessing it's something in the settings too. trying to look for another program) |
| 03:42.36 | roasted | Jucato: here's what happens. When I'm in Audacity, there's a red bar indicating the level of volume being recorded. |
| 03:42.48 | roasted | That bar quickly goes to 100% and stops, staying at 100%. IT doesn't move at all as I talk. |
| 03:43.01 | roasted | Now, I booted to Ubuntu with Gnome and I exhibited this same exact behavior. But there's a catch. |
| 03:43.19 | roasted | I went into sound settings, selected my Input tab, and highlighted the other microphone to the USB mic I wanted to use. I then went to AUdacity and it worked 100%. |
| 03:43.30 | roasted | That's when I knew what I needed to do in KDE was switch which microphone KDE was using. |
| 03:44.10 | Jucato | I see what you mean with the red bar. but in my case it still records my voice |
| 03:44.17 | roasted | Mine does not. |
| 03:44.28 | roasted | In a laptop and desktop with 4 different microphones each. 1 usb, 3 that are 3.5mm |
| 03:46.32 | Jucato | sorry i can't be of much help. don't know much about audio, esp. recording. although I think I have tried using skype once and it worked fine. google hangouts too -_- |
| 03:47.02 | roasted | I have to say, if I have to install Gnome just to get recording working, I'm not sure I'll be able to switch back. |
| 03:47.30 | roasted | I work in IT, and I know I'm flustered and raged at this, but if I'm having issues with this, I can't imagine dropping this in front of someone to use full time. |
| 03:47.35 | roasted | Just speaking candidly... |
| 03:47.40 | roasted | but I do appreciate your help. |
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| 03:50.08 | Jucato | not sure if asking in #phonon will be of much help. maybe in your distro's channel? #kubuntu ? |
| 03:51.17 | Jucato | hm ... |
| 03:52.01 | roasted | Jucato: I've asked in ubuntu, kubuntu, kde, kde-multimedia |
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| 03:53.42 | thiago | does your distribution use pulseaudio? |
| 03:54.30 | Jucato | roasted: i think it might be related to mic boost. at least mine seems to be |
| 03:54.46 | roasted | where is that at? |
| 03:54.52 | roasted | thiago: I assume. I'm on Kubuntu 12.10. |
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| 03:55.01 | roasted | thiago: I can't say for positive though. I haven't used Kubuntu too extensively yet. |
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| 03:56.41 | Jucato | roasted: unfortunately I had to mess around in alsamixer (in the command line). i went in there, pressed F6, selected my audio device, Pressed F4 to go to Capture, saw the Mic Boost was at 100%, used the left/right arrow keys to go to Mic Boost, and down key to set it to 0%, pressed Esc and started recording and it worked ok |
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| 03:57.34 | Jucato | unfortunately it seems to reset mic boost to 100% everytime I do something in kmix |
| 03:58.00 | roasted | Jucato: that seems to be it. |
| 03:58.42 | roasted | I find this fascinating... |
| 03:58.52 | Jucato | indee |
| 03:58.54 | Jucato | indeed* |
| 04:00.18 | roasted | well this at least puts me at ease to know there's some sort of a solution |
| 04:00.29 | roasted | but I really find myself having a hard time trusting this on my work laptop |
| 04:00.42 | roasted | I hate to say it like that. :( |
| 04:01.16 | Jucato | maybe thiago has some ideas what's going on? :) |
| 04:01.43 | roasted | maybe. But USB 3.0 is DD'ing this Ubuntu Gnome image mighty fast :P |
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| 04:05.37 | Jucato | roasted: not really sure which is the source of the problem. really have no idea about audio. it can KDE, Phonon, PulseAudio or ALSA. I'm not sure which one keeps on setting Mic Boost to 100%. I'm just going to guess the Ubuntu folks realized that and did something with the configuration |
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| 04:06.38 | roasted | Jucato: Sound Recorder, Audacity, Kamoso, GUVCView all did the same thing audio-wise on Kubuntu. |
| 04:06.46 | roasted | Jucato: my buddy also duplicated the same thing just now on Kubuntu. |
| 04:06.50 | roasted | KDE 4.10 |
| 04:06.55 | roasted | in terms of the audio issue I ran into |
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| 09:21.46 | Assurbanipal | Hey guys,programs complain not being able to connect to nepomuk.Anyone with a tip? |
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| 09:44.41 | heoyea | disable nepomuk |
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| 09:45.09 | Assurbanipal | heoyea: why?is it known not to be working? |
| 09:45.47 | heoyea | do u use it? |
| 09:45.56 | Assurbanipal | sometimes... |
| 09:46.44 | Assurbanipal | heoyea: i don't understand,it is a KDE's feature.why you ask me if i use it? |
| 09:47.08 | heoyea | if u dont use it then u dont need it |
| 09:48.24 | Assurbanipal | isn't that obvious? |
| 09:48.44 | Assurbanipal | but on the other hand,as nepomuk is part of KDE,isn't it expected to work? |
| 09:49.45 | heoyea | if it works why u asking that it doesnt work |
| 09:50.04 | Assurbanipal | in which part did i say it works? |
| 09:50.15 | heoyea | u said wont connect |
| 09:50.27 | Assurbanipal | it said,that as a core part of KDE it should be expected to work |
| 09:51.00 | Assurbanipal | but oviously it doesn't. I don't get it...where are you trying to get this conversation? |
| 09:51.03 | heoyea | then why didnt it? |
| 09:51.39 | Assurbanipal | heoyea: are you just trolling?If I new the reason why it doesn't work, I would not be asking here... |
| 09:52.11 | heoyea | already gave u an answer |
| 09:52.15 | heoyea | disable it |
| 09:54.07 | Assurbanipal | So, if whole KDE was crashing, your first answer would be "install GNOME". Amazingly deep. Thanks. |
| 09:54.33 | heoyea | install Windows |
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| 09:56.00 | Assurbanipal | Thanks for letting me know dude.You are really smart |
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| 09:56.56 | heoyea | welcome |
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| 14:01.57 | bootkiller | If I want permanently change kwin to indirect rendering mode I just need to add "export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1" to my ~/.bashrc rigth? |
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| 14:05.56 | mgraesslin | bootkiller: yes, but why would you want to do so? |
| 14:06.23 | mgraesslin | ah and no, bashrc is wrong |
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| 14:06.52 | bootkiller | ati catalyst legacy driver doesn't play well with kwin... |
| 14:07.05 | bootkiller | so where do I do it? |
| 14:07.08 | mgraesslin | it shouldn't take direct rendering |
| 14:07.31 | miscni | hi all |
| 14:07.34 | mgraesslin | there is a detection in place to set the env variable if that driver is used |
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| 14:08.39 | bootkiller | somehow it isn't working on gentoo testing... |
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| 14:10.49 | miscni | just a curious question, what docky would be best to use for kde? |
| 14:11.51 | miscni | standard docky keeps crashing, so I was just wondering |
| 14:15.10 | misfit_ | miscni: its best not to use KDE its bloatware for ADHD |
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| 14:23.55 | Washu | winkde.org is down if that helps anyone here :P |
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| 14:29.47 | BluesKaj | wash is that the kde for windows site , tried to DL KDE-installe for windows but the file is truncated so it comes up as a invalis w32 file |
| 14:29.54 | BluesKaj | Washu,^ |
| 14:30.19 | BluesKaj | invalid |
| 14:32.06 | Washu | BluesKaj: it is, not sure what you mean but yea it's the windows.kde.org thing, the downloader can't get any files or even the installer from the link there |
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| 14:35.16 | BluesKaj | Washu,yeah , i tried to download the installer yesterday , for some reason and only half the file downloads ,. The source is 2.2mb , but the file that dls is only 1mb |
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| 14:36.38 | BluesKaj | guess they got so many complaints they finally shut the link down ..ppl were probly hammering it trying to get the whole file |
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| 15:51.13 | Brian_H | In Kmail, can someone point me to the place where I can set the default "new message" type it's defaulting to HTML - I have the "prefer HTML" option unchecked already |
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| 15:54.55 | Jucato | Brian_H: where did you set that? |
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| 15:55.30 | Brian_H | Settings -> Configure KMail -> Security -> Reading (tab) |
| 15:56.03 | Jucato | yeah, only applies to Reading I guess. |
| 15:56.18 | Jucato | in the composer window, got to Options -> uncheck Formatting (HTML) |
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| 15:56.26 | Jucato | it will remember that from what I can see |
| 15:56.34 | Jucato | I mean in the New Message window |
| 15:58.26 | Jucato | Brian_H: did that work for you? |
| 15:59.39 | Brian_H | ok didn't know if it would stick, I'll try now :) |
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| 16:01.39 | Jucato | Brian_H: there's also another option you might be interested in: Settings -> Configure KMail -> Composer page -> General tab -> [ ] Reply using HTML if present |
| 16:02.34 | Brian_H | sweet, that worked! :) |
| 16:02.35 | DaZ | who would use html in emails >: |
| 16:03.04 | Brian_H | not me, I'm setting vim as my external editor ;) |
| 16:04.47 | lunitik | Is there a setting somewhere to configure panel shadows for plasma? It seems to assume the panel is on the bottom, so never draws a shadow at the bottom edge of various things |
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| 16:05.06 | DaZ | i'm too stupid to use good email clients and i run thunderbird >: |
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| 17:46.22 | rprice | hello #kde! - Quick question, coming from a gnome background, I would like to set up (left) ctrl+alt+left arrow key or right arrow key to switch between virtual desktops. Where can I set that in KDE4? Thanks! |
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| 17:49.22 | bootkiller | rprice: system settings-> workspace behaviour -> Virtual desktops -> switching tab |
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| 17:51.16 | rprice | bootkiller: that would be it! |
| 17:51.19 | rprice | thanks so much! |
| 17:51.20 | rprice | bootkiller++ |
| 17:51.32 | bootkiller | np :) |
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| 18:27.00 | terrorpup | Guys, is there a way in KDE 4.10 to add konsole to the right-click menu, I am in Desktop Settings -- Mouse Actions and click the wrench but I don't see where I can anything to it. |
| 18:27.24 | terrorpup | I only see standard menu |
| 18:30.12 | BluesKaj | terrorpup, dunno about desktopo but I added a quicklaunch widget to the panel where one can drag and drop apps into it , to make them accessible with one click |
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| 18:30.58 | terrorpup | I found this...http://oreilly.com/pub/h/3156 |
| 18:31.07 | BluesKaj | including the konsole , btw |
| 18:33.44 | terrorpup | that ok, but if it cover it not good, I want to right-mouse click konsole be at the top of the menu |
| 18:35.09 | BluesKaj | the panel doesn't get covered here, but to each his own |
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| 18:36.49 | terrorpup | ok, quick launch added something to the desktop not panel |
| 18:37.47 | BluesKaj | drag it to the panel |
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| 18:38.39 | terrorpup | I had already right-mouse click add to panel, I was wanting to add to my right mouse menu, panel already set up with my apps |
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| 18:40.57 | BluesKaj | terrorpup, http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10667 |
| 18:41.15 | rdieter | terrorpup: theoretically possible with some javascript I think, but the simplest way is to simply patch it in, some distros do that already (fedora at least) |
| 18:41.28 | BluesKaj | scroll down to the second section there |
| 18:42.00 | rdieter | I don't think a servicemenu can be used for this purpose |
| 18:42.01 | terrorpup | it was in os as well. |
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| 18:43.04 | gorgonzola | Hello peoples! I'm having trouble with nepomukindexer running amok and taking up all my cpu all the time... I've google for this, but the only thing i can find is people suggesting to disable it, which is kinda not the point.... |
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| 18:43.26 | gorgonzola | so i was wondering, is it possible to get a more low level view of what nepomukindexer is actually doing, in order to file a decent bug report? |
| 18:43.28 | gorgonzola | halp? |
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| 18:43.58 | BluesKaj | terrorpup, sorry that url was quite useless |
| 18:45.50 | BluesKaj | gorgonzola, unless you really need nepomuk to find stuff , just turn it off in System Settings>Desktop Search |
| 18:46.40 | gorgonzola | BluesKaj well, i don't really *use* it much myself, but i would really like to start playing around with it, and i would certainly like to be able to help debugging it.... |
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| 18:47.42 | terrorpup | BluesKaj, that file I will figure it out. |
| 18:47.51 | gorgonzola | BluesKaj so i guess i'm asking more or less how to go from being a frustated user to a more active tester? like, can i turn on some loggin for nepomuxindexer, or maybe see where/why it gets stuck? |
| 18:48.36 | gorgonzola | BluesKaj, i mean, it is always stuck when i come back to my machine in the morning, after having ran all night, with no sign of ending (it is really killing my fan!) |
| 18:48.37 | BluesKaj | gorgonzola, glad you would like to help debug it , but like akonadi , nepomuk is basically just useless baggage to me |
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| 18:49.44 | gorgonzola | BluesKaj i know what you mean... but it's very frustrating when i google for it, it's basically all people saying it sucks and to kill it, and then trueg saying how much it has improved :( |
| 18:49.58 | gorgonzola | (does he hang out around these parts, btw?) |
| 18:50.10 | BluesKaj | gorgonzola, if you run a database with on the job requirements ,it's not much use to home users like me |
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| 18:50.40 | BluesKaj | but it's not |
| 18:51.22 | gorgonzola | well, that's sad. guess i'll have to go sign up for a mailing list or something... thanks anyway :) |
| 18:52.39 | BluesKaj | gorgonzola, I don't mean to discourage you , go for the debugging by all means it needs help from ppl willing to work on it. |
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| 18:53.48 | gorgonzola | BluesKaj i did not read it as discouraging at all!! I just thought for a moment that akonadi/nepomuk had moved to a point where we can actually start supporting it instead of still debugging/developing... It was an honest thankyou :) |
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| 18:54.19 | gorgonzola | BluesKaj and i will see if i can get involved more activelly. you know, hardcore kde user etc etc. |
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| 18:55.30 | BluesKaj | well gorgonzola some ppl have a great setup with kmail and the PIM suite , and others like me haven't been able to make it work on their pcs , almost the luck of the draw ..it's real strange |
| 18:56.15 | BluesKaj | ok , errands to do ...bbl |
| 18:56.25 | gorgonzola | bye! |
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| 21:28.16 | zorael | Is there a roadmap for frameworks 5? TODOs etc? |
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| 21:36.53 | Moviuro | 'evening all! |
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| 21:37.17 | DaZ | ohai |
| 21:37.36 | Moviuro | I was wondering if there was a KDE/Android application to send SMS directly from computer (a bit like AirDroid but OpenSource, and on the machine's side) |
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| 21:44.07 | lunitik | Anyone have any idea why Konsole would be leaving a space of like 10 charactors between the cursor and text? |
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| 21:45.00 | Orac | I've had that happen sometimes if I resize Konsole after I've been using it. |
| 21:45.23 | Orac | Especially if I make the window wider or narrower. |
| 21:45.35 | jdmax | ping kde is it possible to gain popchrom (google chrome extension) like features under rekonq? |
| 21:46.17 | Orac | I usually open a new tab and close the old one. |
| 21:46.23 | lunitik | Orac: Here it is pretty consistent :( |
| 21:46.35 | DaZ | lunitik: try changing the font |
| 21:46.41 | lunitik | Stays the new tab too |
| 21:46.45 | lunitik | goes to change font |
| 21:46.55 | jdmax | For instance, if one enters the following in a text box: kr(ctrl+space) -> "kind regards" |
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| 21:49.32 | lunitik | DaZ: That did it, thank you |
| 21:49.38 | DaZ | yw |
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| 21:50.54 | amingv | zorael: maybe http://community.kde.org/Frameworks and http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics ? |
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| 21:53.09 | Orac | Glad you got it figured out. |
| 21:54.34 | lunitik | I'm probably going to get annoying, but where does rekonq get the search engines module from? (please don't say konqueror, please) |
| 21:54.41 | Moviuro | does Dartmouth come with a good version of KDE? (openSUSE 12.3) |
| 21:54.51 | Moviuro | I mean, no known troubles or such ? |
| 21:55.17 | Moviuro | lunitik: systemsettings > Webshortcuts |
| 21:55.17 | lunitik | Moviuro: OpenSUSE 12.3 is very nice |
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| 21:55.29 | cb400f | it comes with 4.10.0 .. and pretty much with all the known bugs of 4.10.0 |
| 21:55.37 | lunitik | Moviuro: Ok, and uhh, where does that come from? I mean what KDE module etc |
| 21:55.40 | cb400f | minor releases are planned to be released as official udpates though |
| 21:55.46 | Moviuro | lunitik: Account Details > Web shortcuts |
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| 21:56.03 | Moviuro | ok cb400f :) |
| 21:56.12 | lunitik | Moviuro: I'm trying to find out where that comes from, not where it goes when its gotten |
| 21:56.25 | Moviuro | (it's for a friend, so I wouldn't like messing all his stuff up ^_^) |
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| 21:56.55 | Moviuro | lunitik: ah sorry, you meant the module, not the config, my bad |
| 21:57.11 | dk0r | Does chromium regularly stop displaying page content or display flickering content? |
| 21:57.15 | dk0r | (for anyone else) |
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| 22:02.33 | unheeding | i can't remember where I saw this, but the tab for desktop widgets was in the corner at the top right of the desktop. how do i get it to do this? kde 4.10 |
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| 22:03.06 | DaZ | unheeding: wat |
| 22:03.18 | unheeding | nevermind, i figured it out |
| 22:03.33 | unheeding | you just drag the tab that says "Desktop" to the corner, it becoms a cashew |
| 22:03.57 | DaZ | huh |
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| 22:04.33 | lunitik | It is getting that search engine module from Konqueror :( |
| 22:04.39 | scottman | unheeding: just learned something, thanks. |
| 22:05.03 | tosky | lunitik: why ":(" ? It is a shared component |
| 22:05.23 | lunitik | tosky: Cuz I don't want 2 file managers and 2 web browsers |
| 22:05.40 | lunitik | I want rekonq and dolphin only |
| 22:05.40 | tosky | lunitik: you don't need konqueror for them, it's a shared component |
| 22:05.48 | tosky | libraries |
| 22:06.13 | lunitik | tosky: If you know how to install that without konqueror having to be installed, I'm all ears |
| 22:07.31 | lunitik | I'll just do without the feature, probably won't be that annoying, we'll see |
| 22:07.40 | Guest70734 | Can anyone recommend a stable distro to get started with developing KDE but isn't ubuntu based? I quite like debian but I find the KDE packages usually to old to be a good for development |
| 22:07.59 | unheeding | opensuse is what i use and recommend |
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| 22:08.13 | tosky | lunitik: the URI search providers are part of kde-runtime |
| 22:08.35 | lunitik | Guest70734: OpenSUSE is nice, as is Fedora for a pure KDE |
| 22:08.37 | tosky | Guest70734: what do you mean by "developing KDE"? |
| 22:08.49 | lunitik | tosky: I will see if I have that installed |
| 22:08.51 | unheeding | you could just delete the .desktop files so it's like konqueror doesn't exist. it's what kubuntu does iirc |
| 22:08.59 | tosky | lunitik: you have to have that installed |
| 22:09.31 | tosky | unheeding: kubuntu inherits the granular packaging from debian, so you can simply uninstall the package |
| 22:09.40 | lunitik | tosky: Well then that isn't where the search providers are |
| 22:09.41 | tosky | lunitik: kde-runtime is a basic module |
| 22:09.47 | Guest70734 | tosky, getting down and dirty with the code. I've programmed in C++ professionly and Qt/KDE looks like something I could help with |
| 22:10.19 | tosky | Guest70734: from start, you don't need the "last last" version |
| 22:10.56 | tosky | lunitik: yes, they are |
| 22:11.02 | tosky | lunitik: which distribution? |
| 22:11.05 | lunitik | tosky: arch |
| 22:11.10 | Guest70734 | unheeding, lunitik : Thanks for the suggests must go and download fedora and suse to see which one I prefare. |
| 22:11.10 | tosky | lunitik: debian testing, they are in kde-runtime-data |
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| 22:12.29 | Guest70734 | tosky, I know that I don't need the latest bleeding edge but a stable distro with a fairly modern kde on it will likey have all the other required depended upon libraries available also |
| 22:12.32 | lunitik | tosky: Here, there is no -data |
| 22:12.40 | tosky | lunitik: so kde-runtime |
| 22:12.57 | lunitik | tosky: Anyway, it's in the kdebase-konqueror package... I already saw someone say it online |
| 22:13.14 | tosky | lunitik: sorry, there is no kdebase module |
| 22:13.20 | tosky | lunitik: no more, at least |
| 22:13.27 | tosky | lunitik: I would say it's a packaging issue |
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| 22:14.31 | tosky | Guest70734: as a matter of fact, I recompiled the latest KDE Platform, Workspaces and apps on Debian testing; that said, of course, use the distribution you like more |
| 22:16.11 | Guest70734 | hmm, I didn't think the latest would have build on testing. Is the stock (distro version) kde reasonably stable these days? |
| 22:17.04 | cb400f | on debian stable? .. isn't that kde 4.5? |
| 22:17.28 | tosky | cb400f: 4.8 |
| 22:17.35 | tosky | cb400f: sorry: 4.4 on stable |
| 22:17.40 | tosky | cb400f: 4.8 on testing |
| 22:17.52 | tosky | testing is frozen |
| 22:18.03 | tosky | but anyway, this is not important |
| 22:18.13 | DaZ | i don't recall 4.4 for being particularly stable ;_; |
| 22:18.22 | tosky | Guest70734: I would say that from 4.6 onwards the base KDE libraries and apps are stable |
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| 22:21.03 | lunitik | Didn't Debian testing freeze over a year ago? |
| 22:22.13 | tosky | lunitik: not exactly; 2012-06-30 |
| 22:23.35 | lunitik | tosky: hmm, I remember looking at it a while back but saw it was frozen... Debian is boring around release times so I went elsewhere |
| 22:23.57 | tosky | lunitik: it releases roughly every 2 years |
| 22:24.05 | lunitik | tosky: It should stop that |
| 22:24.34 | tosky | lunitik: I hope not, but it's OT on this channel |
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| 22:25.47 | DaZ | like we get that much move here that it matters :v |
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| 22:52.15 | killown | please people, could I know what is this plasma-media center about? |
| 22:55.27 | neverendingo | killown: from the news: "PMC can be used to view images, play music or watch videos." |
| 22:55.55 | killown | neverendingo, thanks, I got the answer here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebZIwB2dSE |
| 22:56.33 | neverendingo | or that :) |
| 22:56.48 | ArchGamer | Anyone know of any dark themes that will play nice with gtk? I need a dark theme because it is easy on my eyes. I spend all day in front of this screen. |
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| 22:57.35 | DaZ | ArchGamer: shouldn't you ask gtk people about that :v |
| 22:57.41 | scottman | isee the pmc center seeing a mod for rom emulation D: |
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| 22:57.42 | scottman | :D |
| 22:57.56 | DaZ | since qt is pretty flexible in this matter. |
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| 22:58.20 | scottman | ArchGamer: if you find one please tell us, i have the eye problem as well. |
| 22:58.46 | ArchGamer | DaZ... agreed. gtk peeps at freenode #gtk? |
| 22:59.00 | DaZ | dunnolol |
| 22:59.11 | DaZ | i'd go with gnome channels or something : |
| 22:59.24 | DaZ | since the library ones tend to be more programming oriented. |
| 23:02.01 | tosky | ArchGamer: but if you use oxygen-gtk, and you change the color schema from systemsettings, it will be used also on gtk applications |
| 23:05.35 | ArchGamer | tosky. Yes, but it wont turn black on gtk apps. which then looks unpleasant. or is there a way to change the color scheme for gtk too? |
| 23:06.31 | tosky | ArchGamer: you mean that the changes of the KDE color schema are not applied to GTK+ applications ? I just tried (Debian testing, oxygen-gtk as theme for gtk applications) |
| 23:06.42 | ArchGamer | why doesn't gtk just merge with qt? what are the reasons why there are two seperate projects, accept history? honest question. no flame war intended.d |
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| 23:06.57 | tosky | let's solve this problem |
| 23:07.06 | ArchGamer | tosky. hmmm.. let me try it again. perheps I was doing something wrong when I tried last. |
| 23:07.50 | tosky | ArchGamer: you need to install oxygen-gtk and the control module which allows you to change the theme for gtk2 and gtk3 from systemsettings |
| 23:08.36 | tosky | here on Debian it is called kde-config-gtk-style, the name could be kde-gtk-config |
| 23:09.18 | ArchGamer | tosky. looking into these things. ty. i am running arch. |
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| 23:10.35 | FLHerne | ArchGamer: Because they have entirely different licenses and implementations |
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| 23:11.03 | DaZ | because long, long time ago someone went butthurt over qt being proprietary <: |
| 23:11.17 | FLHerne | You couldn't 'merge' them - you'd have to dump one and concentrate on the other |
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| 23:11.48 | FLHerne | And of course, that would annoy anyone using the dumped one, even if you could make the main devs do so |
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| 23:12.31 | DaZ | it is safe to assume that gtk users have no souls |
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