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| 01:18.41 | Walzmyn | upgraded to KDE 4.10 and I've got ugly white boxes around plasmoids and the panel is transparent making it unreadable. I created a new user and everytyhing looked lovely. I've been goign though ~./kde/share/config and renaming everything named Plasma but haven't found the offending config file, can someone point me in the right direction? |
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| 01:28.27 | james147 | Walzmyn: try ~/.kde/share/apps/{plasma-desktop,desktoptheme} |
| 01:28.44 | Walzmyn | james147: they're both empty |
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| 01:33.50 | james147 | Walzmyn: hmm... then I would try renaming the ~/.kde folder, if that works the problem is definitely in there, if not then it is somewhere else. |
| 01:34.14 | Walzmyn | whimpers |
| 01:34.15 | james147 | Walzmyn: Best to do that while not logged into kde, (ie from a tty) |
| 01:34.37 | Walzmyn | james147: I'd rather go to the dentist. It'll take me a week to get it back the way I want it. |
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| 01:35.14 | james147 | Walzmyn: rename not delete, once we know where the problem is you can restore the configs and look for the problem in more detail |
| 01:35.46 | Walzmyn | I know, i've had to do this before, hence the trepidation, james147 |
| 01:35.59 | james147 | (restoring is just deleteing the newly created ~/.kde and copying the old one back) |
| 01:36.28 | james147 | ^^ again best done while kde is not running, especially so for restoring. |
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| 02:14.13 | Third3ye | Hello -- is there another mail client built in the QT toolkit for KDE besides KMail? |
| 02:14.32 | PovAddict | Third3ye: there is a new one in development, I don't know if it's ready for end users already |
| 02:14.47 | Third3ye | What's it called? |
| 02:14.55 | PovAddict | http://trojita.flaska.net/screenshots.html |
| 02:17.07 | Third3ye | hmm... to bad they're going with the traditional e-mail UI |
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| 02:17.27 | PovAddict | what did you expect? :) |
| 02:17.47 | Third3ye | Perhaps a new take on the e-mail client |
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| 02:19.27 | Third3ye | Like Sparrow for instance -- http://www.saudimac.com/ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/sparrow-mac-screenshot.png |
| 02:20.00 | PovAddict | that looks a lot like the iPad email client... |
| 02:20.01 | Third3ye | I used it in OS X and Windows and was mighty pleased with it's simplistic approach and easy overview of folder lists |
| 02:21.02 | Third3ye | Well you know the ol' Apple mantra, "good artists copy..." |
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| 02:22.05 | Third3ye | Me? I'm trying to invision a whole new approach to a mail client UI |
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| 02:22.23 | Third3ye | freeing up screen realestate to allow better viewing of individual e-mails |
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| 02:23.33 | PovAddict | Third3ye: that's done (in all clients I know) by actually opening the message, instead of using the 'preview' pane |
| 02:23.52 | Third3ye | Then there's workflow... |
| 02:24.06 | Third3ye | An oft forgotten aspect of checking e-mails |
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| 02:24.53 | PovAddict | "the only reason we still use email at all is that it’s impossible or very difficult to replace" |
| 02:25.04 | Third3ye | and usability... a lot of e-mail clients cram in features without providing an easy flow |
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| 02:25.51 | Third3ye | I agree with that to some extent, but then again: e-mail still exists because it is so well implemented |
| 02:26.16 | PovAddict | because it's so widely implemented |
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| 02:27.02 | andoresu | hi |
| 02:27.51 | andoresu | is it possible to make that in the "Available devices" to mount a device without opening any application? |
| 02:28.09 | PovAddict | andoresu: yes |
| 02:28.16 | PovAddict | I have an old KDE though so it may be a bit different on yours |
| 02:28.25 | PovAddict | I see a black icon that looks like a plug |
| 02:28.46 | andoresu | I see the USB symbol, at the left of the clock |
| 02:28.53 | PovAddict | yes |
| 02:28.54 | PovAddict | click it |
| 02:28.57 | andoresu | ok |
| 02:29.05 | PovAddict | I get something like this: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/09/plasma-desktops27837.png |
| 02:29.23 | andoresu | yes |
| 02:29.24 | PovAddict | I can open gwenview, or the file manager; but I can also click on that black icon to only mount it |
| 02:29.34 | PovAddict | without opening any other app |
| 02:29.57 | andoresu | Oh, I see |
| 02:30.03 | andoresu | I've never tried that before |
| 02:30.15 | Third3ye | PovAddict: then what alternative would you suggest? |
| 02:30.18 | andoresu | it was very useful, thak you |
| 02:30.23 | andoresu | *thank |
| 02:30.38 | PovAddict | Third3ye: we don't have an alternative, that's why we still use email :P |
| 02:30.58 | PovAddict | anyway |
| 02:31.18 | PovAddict | I had only joined here to answer in case someone asked about KDE websites (which were down for an hour or so) |
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| 02:36.56 | andoresu | I'm new at Qt, but I'd like to get involved with KDE Project (sorry for my bad english) |
| 02:37.39 | ZenGuy311 | andoresu: try to help with klipper |
| 02:38.22 | andoresu | Ok, how can I start? |
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| 02:38.46 | ZenGuy311 | i guess you should go to #kde-devel |
| 02:38.49 | ZenGuy311 | i'm not a dev |
| 02:39.05 | ZenGuy311 | the most i do is report a few bugs |
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| 02:39.23 | Riley88 | hey is anyone here using weechat on kde |
| 02:39.29 | Riley88 | 4.10 |
| 02:39.33 | Guest34984 | i am. |
| 02:39.46 | Riley88 | i cant for the life of me get notification python scripts to work |
| 02:39.48 | Riley88 | on arch |
| 02:40.05 | Guest34984 | well, i just made it do normal console bells :v |
| 02:40.09 | Riley88 | they worked fine on xfce im using weechat in yakuake |
| 02:40.28 | Riley88 | i just want a notification for private messages |
| 02:40.30 | andoresu | ZenGuy311: ok, thank you, I'll look there |
| 02:40.59 | Riley88 | i used notification.py before on xfce and it worked fine |
| 02:41.42 | Riley88 | i chmoded it and made sure it was executable and in the py autostart |
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| 02:42.21 | Riley88 | although i havnt really tested it on kde4.10 just updated this morning lol |
| 02:42.35 | Riley88 | so would somone mind saying my name real quick |
| 02:43.34 | Riley88 | please |
| 02:46.55 | Riley88 | anyone |
| 02:47.34 | rdieter | Riley88: like this? |
| 02:47.52 | Riley88 | ha |
| 02:47.55 | Riley88 | sweet! |
| 02:47.56 | Riley88 | yhx |
| 02:48.02 | Riley88 | thx |
| 02:48.38 | Riley88 | yea im stoked updating to 4.10 fixed about 80% of the problems lol |
| 02:48.42 | Riley88 | my |
| 02:50.04 | Riley88 | now i jusy need to figure out how to get vlc working im not sure if its an arch thing or kde |
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| 03:02.58 | amstan | is there a way to change the look of the lock screen in kde4.10? it used to be all black, now there's this blue wallpaper in it |
| 03:05.31 | shumski | amstan: it is taken either from plasma theme,or from plasmarc config file |
| 03:06.24 | amstan | shumski: it's not necessalry the window i'm concerned with, the stuff behind it |
| 03:06.33 | amstan | i'm fairly sure that's not plasma's theme |
| 03:06.39 | shumski | amstan: that's what i mean |
| 03:06.52 | shumski | i am sure :-) |
| 03:06.56 | amstan | plasma themes don't have wallpapers in them though |
| 03:07.07 | shumski | amstan: 99% don't have |
| 03:07.10 | shumski | Air does |
| 03:07.25 | shumski | that is how is default KDE wallpaper defined |
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| 03:07.48 | amstan | also, i see the same wallpaper on 2 different computers even though they have different plasma themes |
| 03:08.55 | shumski | yeah, cause air is installed as /usr/share/kde4/desktoptheme/default |
| 03:09.07 | amstan | i found the wallpaper in question: it's elarun |
| 03:09.29 | shumski | yes |
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| 03:10.22 | amstan | shumski: i don't seem to have that file/folder, i have ~/.kde4/share/apps/desktoptheme/default/ though, only contains an empty wallpapers folder |
| 03:10.46 | shumski | check /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/metadata.desktop file |
| 03:11.08 | shumski | it is not *in* theme, it's in theme's metadata.desktop |
| 03:11.31 | amstan | shumski: /usr/share/kde4 only has services and servicetypes |
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| 03:11.43 | amstan | running arch if that's relevant |
| 03:12.45 | shumski | then look at contents of kde-runtime package |
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| 03:14.36 | gh403 | So I updated to KDE 4.10, and it seems the little popup notifications in the lower right are gone. Is this normal? |
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| 03:15.14 | shumski | they should be somewhere, no? :-) |
| 03:15.39 | gh403 | Well, now they pop up in a big ugly grey box at the top of the screen. |
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| 03:16.21 | shumski | then pullthem where you want it to be |
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| 03:16.46 | gh403 | But I liked the little circle-i button in the tray. |
| 03:16.59 | gh403 | Is it normal that that has been removed? |
| 03:18.05 | shumski | it's here for me http://uppix.net/e/1/a/dbba54e8e7c585fffe3753a6a77e8.png |
| 03:18.24 | gh403 | Hmmm this is bogus. |
| 03:18.45 | shumski | what is bogus? |
| 03:18.50 | rdieter | gh403: re-add the notification widget if it's gone missing |
| 03:18.58 | rdieter | (in systray) |
| 03:19.11 | gh403 | rdieter: oh, I thought it lived in the systray and vanished when it was unneeded. |
| 03:19.37 | gh403 | I found it. Thank you! |
| 03:19.48 | shumski | they don't clear automatically |
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| 03:20.30 | gh403 | Yeah, I know they don't clear, but I thought the desktop would always have the notification thingy in the tray if it needed it |
| 03:20.30 | Riley88 | guys is vlc not loading for anyone else |
| 03:20.41 | gh403 | Riley88: works here |
| 03:20.42 | Riley88 | i cant for the life of me get it to open |
| 03:20.49 | Riley88 | im on arch |
| 03:21.00 | gh403 | Fire it up in a terminal with the debug flags on. |
| 03:21.10 | gh403 | Same here, Arch FTW |
| 03:21.16 | gh403 | :) |
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| 03:21.26 | Riley88 | it starts to open but never does |
| 03:21.28 | Third3ye | The KDE in Arch is kind of unstable IMHO... |
| 03:21.42 | Riley88 | im using 4.10 |
| 03:21.48 | Third3ye | Don't get me wrong, I'm using Arch as well :P |
| 03:21.57 | gh403 | Third3ye: updates from one minor version are a bit rough, but otherwise I haven't had any issues |
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| 03:22.30 | gh403 | like from 4.9.whateverIwasrunning to 4.10, all these weird little issues have bothered me. They're worked out mostly. |
| 03:22.37 | gh403 | But the screen locker still doesn't work. |
| 03:23.21 | Riley88 | the only thing im having issues with is vlc |
| 03:23.26 | rdieter | gh403: have you restarted your kde session since updating 4.9 -> 4.10 ? (just in case you haven't, you should) |
| 03:23.31 | Riley88 | but it was doing it in 4.9 to |
| 03:23.40 | gh403 | yup, rebooted the machine since I got a new kernel, too. |
| 03:23.47 | rdieter | ok |
| 03:24.04 | Third3ye | Strangely enough they reverted from an unstable version fo 4.10 yesterday or something in the main repo |
| 03:24.18 | gh403 | Riley88: do vlc -v |
| 03:24.20 | rdieter | gh403: because the symptom you describe can happen in that case too |
| 03:24.23 | gh403 | in a terminal |
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| 03:24.44 | gh403 | rdieter: which symptom, the vanishing notifications, or the broken screen locker? |
| 03:24.45 | Riley88 | updating my kernel lol |
| 03:24.47 | Riley88 | one sec |
| 03:24.50 | rdieter | gh403: the latter |
| 03:24.55 | gh403 | hmmm |
| 03:25.16 | rdieter | because screenlocking functionality moved from krunner to ksmserver |
| 03:25.20 | rdieter | in 4.10 |
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| 03:26.21 | gh403 | I've toggled all the settings in the dialog. |
| 03:28.21 | shumski | do you mean this one? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314227 or other symptoms? |
| 03:28.39 | Riley88 | http://privatepaste.com/8de5219fd4 |
| 03:28.46 | Riley88 | can yall see that |
| 03:28.59 | Riley88 | thats the vlc output |
| 03:29.04 | gh403 | Yes O.o |
| 03:29.18 | Riley88 | i love that paste widget lol |
| 03:29.23 | Riley88 | patebin |
| 03:29.24 | gh403 | try reinstalling vlc; all its libraries bit the dust |
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| 03:30.11 | Riley88 | btw i think the kde paste is down |
| 03:30.12 | gh403 | shumski_out: yes, that's exactly it. |
| 03:30.18 | Riley88 | i had to change it |
| 03:30.46 | Riley88 | HA! |
| 03:30.56 | gh403 | Hmm? |
| 03:31.04 | Riley88 | *gives gho403 a huf |
| 03:31.06 | Riley88 | hug |
| 03:31.13 | Riley88 | it works lol |
| 03:31.40 | gh403 | Good :) |
| 03:32.00 | Riley88 | i actually just did a fresh arch install the other day and i installed vlc while in chroot |
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| 03:32.06 | gh403 | also lol http://www.damnocrazy.com/22/arc-servers-go-down-kde-410-released |
| 03:32.07 | Riley88 | so that might be why |
| 03:32.16 | gh403 | hmh yeah I don't know. |
| 03:33.06 | gh403 | I'm still not entirely sure why sometimes files will seem to come randomly unassociated with packages in pacman. Then it refuses to upgrade, and I have to use -f :( |
| 03:33.36 | Riley88 | one more thing that is bugging me im on intel hd 3000 with sna and tear free enabled i have effects disabled for fullscreen but flash is still a little lagy |
| 03:33.51 | Riley88 | i was wondering if there was anything i could do to help it |
| 03:35.00 | Riley88 | i have opengl2 shaders disabled |
| 03:35.08 | gh403 | My flash isn't too laggy. A bit of tearing in 1080p HD video but that's nothing new for Flash for Linux. |
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| 03:35.29 | Riley88 | i dont have tearing just lag |
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| 03:36.00 | gh403 | Is vsync enabled? |
| 03:36.11 | Riley88 | yes in xorg.conf |
| 03:36.23 | gh403 | Hmmm. Turn it off? I really dunno. |
| 03:36.26 | Riley88 | but if i disable i have really bad tearing |
| 03:36.33 | gh403 | Yeah me too. |
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| 03:37.00 | zhaohai | My flash is very laggy when fullscreen,, |
| 03:37.44 | Riley88 | when i disable effects for fullscreen windows and that helps alot but its still there alittle |
| 03:38.14 | gh403 | offtopic, best video for testing full HD flash, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgAlQuqzl8o |
| 03:38.44 | Riley88 | lol |
| 03:38.48 | gh403 | Hmmm. Lag, I haven't had an issue with. |
| 03:39.06 | Riley88 | do u still disable acceleration |
| 03:39.28 | Riley88 | the only thing i did was add the mms.cfg stuff in the browser plugin wiki |
| 03:39.36 | MouseTheLuckyDog | I have a script that is misbehaving. I put the script in a folder view widget. http://pastebin.com/gxFYf7nq |
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| 03:40.27 | gh403 | Haven't heard of this, Riley88, link? |
| 03:40.29 | MouseTheLuckyDog | The key line is 23. I get an authorisation dialog but if I authorise correctly it opens the konsole in another virtual desktop sometimes. |
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| 03:41.35 | Riley88 | browser plugins arch wiki |
| 03:42.02 | Riley88 | google that should be one of the first links and it gives u a bunch of stuff for flash |
| 03:42.20 | Riley88 | works across the bord though for other distros |
| 03:44.17 | Riley88 | i need to reboot though for that kernel update |
| 03:44.20 | Riley88 | brb |
| 03:44.43 | gh403 | How does the "Top screen menubar" style work? I guess it looks like the MacOS when you've got it working? |
| 03:46.17 | gh403 | I'm gonna log out/in. Brb. |
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| 03:47.28 | gh403 | Back :) |
| 03:48.26 | gh403 | My focus follows my mouse, so having the menus at the top is unusable for me! |
| 03:50.37 | gh403 | KDE keeps getting gloriouser |
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| 05:18.09 | Luke_Wolf | Hello, can someone explain to me how to set up groups in KGet so that files downloaded that match a regex actually go under a different group than "My Downloads"? |
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| 05:22.15 | john325 | hola |
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| 05:22.24 | john325 | hi |
| 05:22.36 | john325 | hello |
| 05:24.53 | roasted | so, I'm a little confused. Laptop, KDE 4.10, Kubuntu 12.04. Both screen edges are set to preview all windows, yet only the right side works. LOL????????? |
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| 05:28.18 | Zero_Angel | roasted, are you running it in dual screen mode? (e.g. laptop monitor + desktop monitor) |
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| 05:28.38 | roasted | Zero_Angel: I WAS earlier. I am not right now. |
| 05:28.58 | roasted | Zero_Angel: it worked earlier when I was running it in dual screen - but that's also when I set it up. |
| 05:29.24 | Zero_Angel | I'm guessing you tried logging out and then logging back in? |
| 05:29.32 | Zero_Angel | after changing the monitor setup |
| 05:30.01 | roasted | Zero_Angel: I didnt change the monitor setup back, but I did go into the settings. I didn't see what I COULD adjust, ya know? Primary monitor was set right, resolution, etc. |
| 05:30.22 | roasted | Zero_Angel: plus, the side that's not working is the side that wasn't extended with the monitor. My left side is not working now, yet it was the RIGHT side which had the 2nd monitor. |
| 05:30.31 | roasted | and yes, I actually just came back from a restart. No difference. |
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| 05:32.31 | Zero_Angel | another thing to try would be to unset the left hotcorners, hit apply and then set them again, hit apply |
| 05:32.54 | roasted | hm, I did reset the left side - didn't touch right. |
| 05:33.03 | roasted | I even set a new hot corner for the upper left corner. That too didn't work |
| 05:33.12 | roasted | The one that magically stopped working was the left screen edge |
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| 05:34.00 | roasted | I just reset them, no dice. |
| 05:34.06 | roasted | Set the bottom screen, worked fine |
| 05:34.07 | roasted | weird. |
| 05:34.33 | Zero_Angel | when you were running in dual-screen mode, your right monitor was the primary one, correct? |
| 05:34.46 | roasted | no |
| 05:34.49 | roasted | laptop was always primary |
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| 05:35.29 | Zero_Angel | that's really perplexing then |
| 05:35.43 | roasted | I just saved the single mode as the new default |
| 05:35.49 | roasted | wonder if restarting now would make a difference? |
| 05:36.27 | Zero_Angel | It might |
| 05:36.42 | roasted | brb.... |
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| 05:38.29 | roasted | hello from my still not working KDE setup |
| 05:39.46 | Zero_Angel | try pasting the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (if it exists) into pastebin and give me the link to the paste |
| 05:40.03 | Zero_Angel | the X in X11 will be capitalized |
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| 05:44.38 | roasted | doesn't texist |
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| 05:51.55 | Zero_Angel | oh man |
| 05:51.59 | Zero_Angel | well i'm all out of ideas |
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| 05:53.09 | Luke_Wolf | hm... looks like it's just rekonq for some reason breaks kget groups... |
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| 06:06.03 | Jacky | is suspend session the same as sleep? |
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| 06:18.57 | Luke_Wolf | Jacky: suspend to RAM is the same as sleep and suspend to disk is the same as hibernate, not sure about suspend session |
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| 06:23.38 | Jacky | hm, I'm looking to tweak Power Settings |
| 06:23.49 | Jacky | and it's mentioning something about suspend session. |
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| 06:24.36 | brallan | hi, anyone knows how to install animated wallpapers? |
| 06:24.45 | Jacky | Luke_Wolf: http://i.imgur.com/159fzXc.png |
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| 06:31.12 | Luke_Wolf | Jacky: you actually get to select what you want it to do |
| 06:31.43 | Luke_Wolf | you see that dropdown box next to the time selection? |
| 06:32.00 | Luke_Wolf | you enable suspend and it'll start off showing sleep |
| 06:32.12 | Luke_Wolf | but you have other options |
| 06:32.24 | Luke_Wolf | including hibernate, shut down, and lock screen |
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| 06:40.25 | Jacky | thanks |
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| 07:18.12 | siavashserver | Hello. I'm using ArchLinux + Catalyst 13.1 legacy drivers + KDE 4.10 . After updating to 4.10, when using Air and Oxygen desktop themes, panel looks opaque. Any ideas? |
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| 07:22.04 | siavashserver | I've tried creating new user, clearing caches and temporary files, enabling and disabling Blur effect. Still no luck. |
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| 07:52.55 | mnatz | looking for some help with kde on Scientific Linux. yum is telling me that KDE is installed but I cannot find many apps like kate or kexi. Anyone seen this and have clues as to where to look? |
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| 07:55.57 | mnatz | have looked in add update software with queries for kate kexi with hits. scanning in the user guide and google have not provided many clues yet either. I am guessing I am asking the wrong questions right now. |
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| 07:58.33 | mnatz | Scientific Linux is a redhat / centos equivalent |
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| 08:02.54 | Verge | Just install them? |
| 08:03.11 | Verge | You can quite easily browse what packages you have installed and what are offered for installation |
| 08:05.10 | mnatz | yum replies nothing available and I have all included repos active. Yet one of kde's website includes SL as a offering KDE as installed in the distro |
| 08:05.40 | mnatz | have done the groupinstall KDE destop thing with success |
| 08:06.01 | Verge | "Nothing is available" in what context? |
| 08:06.18 | Verge | A regular Linux distro has tens of thousands of packages and nobody has them all |
| 08:06.23 | mnatz | yum install kexi or yum install kate |
| 08:06.29 | Verge | Sure |
| 08:06.36 | Verge | I told you to browse the packages |
| 08:06.48 | Verge | They are not called "kate" nor "kexi" most likely |
| 08:07.29 | Verge | In Arch Kate is kdesdk-kate |
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| 08:09.41 | wyattg | try 'yum search kexi' and 'yum search kate' to discover the actual package names |
| 08:11.40 | mnatz | search gets a hit on kate not kexi list the KDE software development kit which I had rejected as a match |
| 08:14.11 | wyattg | kate is a part of the kde sdk, so that is probably what you want |
| 08:14.32 | wyattg | kexi is part of calligra, look for that |
| 08:14.51 | Verge | I'm still quite confident it's possible to install single packages instead of those massive modules |
| 08:15.19 | wyattg | depends on how the distro packages them |
| 08:15.29 | Verge | yeah |
| 08:15.41 | mnatz | installing the sdk did include kate. Yes I was looking for calligra as well. |
| 08:15.57 | wyattg | The official KDE packaging scheme is for Kate to be a part of kdesdk and not a separate package |
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| 08:17.30 | mnatz | no calligra though |
| 08:18.46 | mnatz | search for calligra thru yum gives me kerkis calligraphic and abyssinica fonts |
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| 08:20.07 | Verge | Maybe they have Koffice |
| 08:20.17 | Verge | Which was Calligra before they split |
| 08:20.33 | mnatz | koffice was already installed |
| 08:21.28 | mnatz | calligra includes kexi |
| 08:22.06 | Verge | So does Koffice |
| 08:22.41 | mnatz | excuse me kwrite not koffice just looked |
| 08:23.15 | mnatz | yum search koffice -- no matches found |
| 08:25.16 | ChrJim | how about "yum provides *bin/kexi"? |
| 08:26.24 | mnatz | yum provides *bin/kexi -- no matches found |
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| 08:33.51 | cuppsy | Is there an easy way to quickly change between a USB headset and laptop speakers with ALSA in KDE 4.10? |
| 08:34.03 | cuppsy | Multimedia settings see my headset, but I can change to use that for audio. |
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| 08:35.25 | PasNox | Hi |
| 08:35.32 | PasNox | Since i migrated to kde sc 4.10 |
| 08:35.41 | PasNox | tjhe notificatiosn do no longe show correctly |
| 08:35.57 | PasNox | the notification icon is not visible and popup are integrated inside the system tray |
| 08:36.07 | PasNox | and at the same time diretly on my desktop plasmoid |
| 08:36.10 | PasNox | any hint ? |
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| 08:36.55 | onebitxajax | hi to all |
| 08:37.13 | onebitxajax | i tried to copile kde 4.10.0 i got this error |
| 08:37.18 | mnatz | yum provides */Koffice and */Calligra -- no matches found |
| 08:37.33 | onebitxajax | Linking CXX executable facetmodeltest |
| 08:37.34 | onebitxajax | Reaping winning child 0x025fa8b0 PID 19780 |
| 08:37.34 | onebitxajax | Live child 0x025fa8b0 (nepomuk/test/facetmodeltest) PID 19782 |
| 08:37.34 | onebitxajax | /usr/local/lib/libsopranoclient.so.1: undefined reference to `Soprano::DataStream::DataStream()' |
| 08:37.36 | onebitxajax | /usr/local/lib/libsopranoclient.so.1: undefined reference to `Soprano::DataStream::writeStatement(Soprano::Statement const&)' |
| 08:37.39 | onebitxajax | /usr/local/lib/libsopranoclient.so.1: undefined reference to `Soprano::DataStream::writeString(QString const&)' |
| 08:37.42 | onebitxajax | /usr/local/lib/libsopranoclient.so.1: undefined reference to `Soprano::DataStream::readStatement(Soprano::Statement&)' |
| 08:37.44 | onebitxajax | what means? |
| 08:37.52 | onebitxajax | is that correct to tell him to ignore test? |
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| 08:38.36 | onebitxajax | with strings /usr/local/lib/libsopranoclient.so.1 i see that Soprano::DataStream::DataStream is present |
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| 08:39.03 | onebitxajax | how can resolve this? what lib to ld i must pass? |
| 08:39.37 | Verge | sopranoclient? |
| 08:40.28 | onebitxajax | Verge: -ldsopranoclient?? |
| 08:40.48 | Verge | -lsopranoclient |
| 08:41.02 | onebitxajax | ok let's try |
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| 08:48.10 | onebitxajax | Verge: here to put it? |
| 08:48.34 | Verge | Dunno |
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| 08:48.40 | Verge | Cmake should find deps by itself |
| 08:48.55 | onebitxajax | it fail on test |
| 08:49.10 | onebitxajax | i think taht it's not listest as depend |
| 08:49.25 | onebitxajax | Built target facetmodeltest_automoc <<----------- fail here |
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| 09:36.45 | cuppsy | Are the new notifications for 4.10 a separate package or something? Updated to 4.10 this morning and still have the same notifications. |
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| 10:09.02 | Aristide | ² |
| 10:09.06 | Aristide | Hi |
| 10:09.26 | Aristide | I have a question : Notify are not display in tooltip, but in a rectangle |
| 10:09.44 | Aristide | How fix this problem ? Notification widget is on desktop and enable |
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| 10:24.49 | pmros | I've removed speaker icon from system tray by mistake, how can I put it again? |
| 10:25.01 | pmros | I've tried notification widget |
| 10:25.22 | Torch | pmros: run kmix |
| 10:25.33 | pmros | I've tried too |
| 10:25.40 | pmros | no luck |
| 10:25.44 | pmros | kde 4.10 |
| 10:25.54 | pmros | preferences are ok |
| 10:26.00 | Torch | pmros: open system tray settings and check if you hid it |
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| 10:26.53 | pmros | system tray settings...? |
| 10:27.12 | Torch | pmros: right click the system tray and pick settings from the menu |
| 10:27.33 | pmros | just add widgets |
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| 10:30.20 | pmros | no dialog window |
| 10:30.37 | pmros | just "add widget" option |
| 10:30.45 | cuppsy | Is there anyway to have Telepathy support Meanwhile/Sametime? |
| 10:31.12 | pmros | no klipper icon either |
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| 10:34.08 | ChrJim | click on "cashew" icon on panel, hover over system tray, click on wrench icon. |
| 10:37.29 | pmros | oh |
| 10:37.35 | pmros | it works now |
| 10:37.51 | pmros | I'm stupid |
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| 10:38.08 | pmros | system tray widget, not notification widget |
| 10:38.09 | Aristide | I have a question : Notify are not display in tooltip, but in a rectangle |
| 10:38.10 | pmros | ok ok |
| 10:38.15 | Aristide | How fix this problem ? |
| 10:38.16 | kaktuspalme | Congratulations for 4.10 |
| 10:38.31 | Torch | Aristide: got a screenshot for us? |
| 10:39.10 | Aristide | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/09/plasma-desktopUZ2069.png |
| 10:39.12 | Aristide | Yes :) |
| 10:39.16 | pmros | thank you |
| 10:39.19 | pmros | and sorry |
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| 10:43.18 | Aristide | Torch: Do you have a solution for fix that ? |
| 10:43.34 | Torch | Aristide: i don't see the notification in your screenshot |
| 10:43.47 | Aristide | Torch: The notification is « Welcome on my Screenshot » |
| 10:43.59 | Torch | Aristide: how did you produce that notification? |
| 10:44.13 | Aristide | Torch: kdialog --passivepopup "Welcome on my Screenshot" |
| 10:44.25 | Aristide | All notifications was displayed on this rectangle |
| 10:45.25 | Torch | Aristide: it's hard to tell what's wrong here without seeing the rest of the screen though. is the position correct? how does the panel look like? |
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| 10:46.11 | Aristide | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/09/plasma-desktopJN2069.png Torch |
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| 10:46.21 | Aristide | And other notification http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/09/plasma-desktopyu2069.png |
| 10:47.13 | ChrJim | Aristide: click on "arrow" on system tray, right-click on notifications, notifications settings, enable "application notifications" |
| 10:47.40 | Aristide | Notifications are already enabled |
| 10:48.03 | Moult | right clicking on a file in dolphin -> activites -> link to current activity - what does that do? sure, i guess it associates it with the current activity, but where can i make use of this association? |
| 10:48.47 | RamchandraApte | Moult: me too |
| 10:49.02 | RamchandraApte | Moult: maybe it is for future use |
| 10:49.27 | Moult | RamchandraApte: perhaps there is some undocumented protocol to access it, like timeline:/ |
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| 10:49.47 | Aristide | ChrJim: I don't understand what for Notifications don't work :/ |
| 10:50.09 | Moult | RamchandraApte: nepomuksemantictags:search_filter({tags}, {'value':'myactivity'});, et voila! semantic desktop! |
| 10:50.57 | ChrJim | Moult: you can add a Folder View that displays files linked to the current activity. |
| 10:52.04 | ChrJim | Aristide: what you're experiencing happens when I disable "Application notifications". |
| 10:52.23 | Moult | ChrJim: oh hey, cool. just tried it. doesn't seem to work though. the widget says "this folder is empty". |
| 10:52.34 | Aristide | ChrJim: I know, but notification is enable :( |
| 10:52.55 | tsimpson | Moult: open activities:// in dolphin, you'll be able to see a link for each activity |
| 10:53.13 | tsimpson | an ugly link, but it's just a copy+paste into the folder view settings |
| 10:53.58 | Moult | tsimpson: not shown there either |
| 10:54.03 | ChrJim | Moult: well, did you link any files? Plus there's the KIOslave that tsimpson mentioned. |
| 10:54.14 | Moult | ChrJim: yes, i linked the file |
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| 10:57.53 | ChrJim | Aristide: |
| 10:57.59 | Aristide | ChrJim: ? |
| 10:58.27 | ChrJim | sorry, pressed on Return too fast. Hold on a sec. |
| 10:58.36 | Aristide | Okay :) |
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| 11:00.00 | ChrJim | Aristide: does notify-send work? |
| 11:00.27 | Aristide | ChrJim: notify-send is same problem |
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| 11:06.36 | ChrJim | Aristide: grep ShowNotifications ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
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| 11:07.02 | Aristide | florian@neuhneuh-pc ~]$ grep ShowNotifications ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsr |
| 11:07.03 | Aristide | grep: /home/florian/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsr: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type |
| 11:07.06 | Aristide | File not found :/ |
| 11:07.28 | Aristide | With .kde4 too |
| 11:07.53 | ChrJim | Aristide: what does 'kde4-config --path config' say? |
| 11:08.24 | Aristide | ShowNotifications=true |
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| 11:13.57 | Aristide | ChrJim: ShowNotification is on True ^^' |
| 11:15.09 | ChrJim | Aristide: last check: have you tried with a clean account? |
| 11:15.19 | Aristide | No I check wait |
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| 11:15.59 | ello_govna | Anyone else having trouble with the lock screen in 4.10? I can't get the password dialogue to appear when clicking unlock. |
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| 11:17.57 | Aristide | ChrJim: Same problem |
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| 11:21.10 | ChrJim | Aristide: I can't figure out what could be wrong, sorry. It behaves as if application notifications were disabled, but I can't reproduce this. |
| 11:22.00 | Aristide | ChrJim: I have already check, plasma is not registered by dbus for notifications (I don't remember dbus path) |
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| 11:55.23 | lord_rob | Hi ! I often have this problem: When I enter my username/pass in kdm I see the boot animation and nothing goes past that. I've seen that in many KDE versions (I'm now using 4.8.4) |
| 11:56.12 | lord_rob | It goes to the last step of the boot animation |
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| 11:58.02 | Phr33d0m | lord_rob and freezes? |
| 11:58.43 | lord_rob | Phr33d0m: the pc is not frozen, I restart it it with ctrl+alt+del in a tty |
| 11:59.19 | lord_rob | and in X I can only move the mouse |
| 11:59.20 | Phr33d0m | I meant, the animation freezes and it doesn't get past that, but you can still move your mouse for example? |
| 12:00.01 | lord_rob | yes |
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| 12:03.56 | lord_rob | going past the boot screen needs "luck". Yesterday, I needed to reboot twice to past it |
| 12:04.43 | lord_rob | s/past it/go past it/ |
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| 15:00.53 | lyanix | opensuse 12.2 (x86_64) kde 4.8.5 release 2 my question is how do I fix audio because I can't hear anything. |
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| 15:11.07 | lyanix | opensuse 12.2 (x86_64) kde 4.8.5 release 2 my question is how do I fix audio because I can't hear anything. |
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| 15:13.00 | BluesKaj | lyanix, first of all open a terminal , |
| 15:13.01 | BluesKaj | type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key' then turn those controls up to the max. |
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| 15:47.45 | roasted | hello friends |
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| 15:50.35 | markit | hi, in a netbook I've 4.10 and a new login screen that has "suspend / reboot / poweroff" buttons on the lower right corner (translating on the fly from Italian), how is it called? I've a lot of problems with it because I need to go in console (textual) login and I don't know how |
| 15:50.54 | markit | (and no, ctrl+alt+f1 does not work is a macbook of a friend of mine) |
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| 15:52.15 | BluesKaj | markit , what about ctrl+alt+f2>f6 |
| 15:53.06 | markit | BluesKaj: I don't have the Macbook here, I installed him Kubuntu 13.04 ( ;P) and I was assisting him on the phone, so I don't think there is a correct mapping on the macbook with Alt or whatever |
| 15:53.30 | markit | I told him to use the red powerdown button and choose "console login" but it turned off his pc |
| 15:53.43 | markit | then I remembered that my netbook has that login interface too |
| 15:53.53 | markit | and in effect I've found no way to do it |
| 15:54.00 | BluesKaj | does he have grub menu ? |
| 15:54.22 | markit | do you mean keep "shift" pressed during boot? |
| 15:54.36 | roasted | So I have the left and right side of my screen set to preview all windows, but only the right side works. The left does not. I'm running a single laptop screen at the moment. Yesterday, at work, I was using an LCD on the right side, and both the left and right sides worked. But today, the left side of the laptop screen does not. Eh? |
| 15:55.02 | markit | I think so, but I'm wondering why login screen is becoming a) impossible to use without a mouse b) those options has been removed |
| 15:55.24 | BluesKaj | left shift or escape , right after the bios screen , markit , then choose the recovery kernel |
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| 15:55.36 | markit | i.e. at school happens that a mouse is unplugged, and you can't TAB to the poweroff button |
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| 15:59.10 | markit | (btw, phone) |
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| 16:14.56 | markit | BluesKaj: so no hope for the login screen? |
| 16:15.33 | markit | BluesKaj: and do you know why I've 4.10 with "old" login and netbook with "new" login? is it a choice? a package? how is called the new vs the old? (just to google further) |
| 16:15.42 | BluesKaj | markit, try nomodeset , there may be a graphics HW problem |
| 16:15.57 | BluesKaj | !nomodeset |
| 16:16.13 | BluesKaj | ok no botinfo |
| 16:16.20 | markit | BluesKaj: what problem? I've no problem except be able to login in the console from graphical login without the grub trick |
| 16:16.37 | markit | I've to login and then remove .kde to restore defaults, that's all |
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| 16:16.57 | markit | since my friend has messed things up so badly that now the screen is completely black |
| 16:17.04 | BluesKaj | markit, which OS ? |
| 16:17.05 | markit | at least, is what he says |
| 16:17.10 | markit | kubuntu 13.04 |
| 16:17.38 | markit | I've used for 3 days and worked fine, I gave him and messed it up in 2 hours |
| 16:18.01 | markit | and I had no time to fix it since today, trying by phone |
| 16:18.11 | markit | he will bring it to my home later |
| 16:18.15 | BluesKaj | that's too adventurous for a new install , 12.10 would be better |
| 16:18.25 | markit | but I'm not happy that keyboard is no more usable in login screen |
| 16:18.41 | markit | BluesKaj: the problem is not the OS, but the dumb user as usual |
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| 16:23.18 | BluesKaj | ok , markit , helping from here is too remote |
| 16:24.22 | markit | BluesKaj: I have no need for help, just ranting about the development of login screen and asking if was some trick I was not aware of. Once the pc is here, I can do a lot of things, like boot from cd, chroot etc. |
| 16:24.54 | markit | but having the possibility of a) act without a mouse b) go in console from login is important OMHO and has been removed |
| 16:24.55 | BluesKaj | and you really should be asking in #ubuntu+1 |
| 16:25.11 | markit | BluesKaj: is a KDE 4.10 problem, not kubuntu! |
| 16:25.48 | BluesKaj | ubuntu+1 is for all 13.04 versions |
| 16:27.44 | BluesKaj | markit, all 13.04 'buntus in other words |
| 16:28.57 | markit | BluesKaj: tell me what distro do you want me to use, and I will repeat the problem with that distro since is KDE related and you will be happy |
| 16:29.40 | BluesKaj | I don't think it's a 4.10 problem at all ,it's very similar to the lightdm login problem I had on 12.1q0 , qt least the way you describe it |
| 16:29.50 | BluesKaj | markit, ^ |
| 16:30.11 | markit | BluesKaj: what problem are you talking about? I'm lost |
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| 16:33.53 | alienBOB | markit: install Slackware, problem gone. It does not use grub, and offers console access next to the GUI login |
| 16:34.15 | markit | alienBOB: ah, has a different kde 4.10 login screen? |
| 16:34.45 | markit | alienBOB: there are two, and don't know how they are called and how to switch them |
| 16:34.58 | alienBOB | It has the KDE login screen but at least Slackware does not patch the hell out of your KDE, and offers a choice to access the console |
| 16:35.12 | alienBOB | There is the "failsafe" KDE session perhaps? |
| 16:35.39 | markit | alienBOB: let me find a screenshot |
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| 16:40.16 | markit | alienBOB: mmm can't find it, let me turn on a VM and see if is an option |
| 16:43.00 | tosky | markit: I missed some points, but are you using lightdm-kde instead of kdm? |
| 16:43.48 | tosky | (and 13.04 is not yet a stable system) |
| 16:43.49 | markit | tosky: probably, I could check the netbook if is just to check the package name |
| 16:44.23 | markit | tosky: I'm used to this screen: http://linuxlibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kubuntu-11-10-14.jpg that has the option in the red button to console login |
| 16:44.45 | alienBOB | That is a KDM screenshot markit |
| 16:44.46 | markit | (but you can't reach those options without a mouse, or am I wrong? it's a different problem, but often found at school) |
| 16:45.07 | markit | alienBOB: ok, the one that bugs me is not that one, let me check the netbook |
| 16:45.30 | tosky | wikipedia says that lightdm-kde is the default "for Kubuntu beginning with 12.10.[13]" |
| 16:45.52 | markit | FOUND: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YOI6NdH75lE/UDHfsV551CI/AAAAAAAAIzg/8_CVu1YskaI/s1600/lightdm-kde.png |
| 16:46.18 | alienBOB | Yeah, lightdm is not KDE of course |
| 16:46.21 | tosky | so it's a kubuntu customization, as they use a different login manager by default |
| 16:46.34 | tosky | please file a bug against lightdm-kde |
| 16:46.37 | markit | is there a way you are aware of to have console login with that? |
| 16:46.46 | tosky | ask lightdm developers, no idea |
| 16:46.46 | markit | ah, is not a kde project? |
| 16:46.47 | alienBOB | Ask the developers there markit |
| 16:47.01 | markit | funny, I apologise then |
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| 16:48.57 | tosky | markit: the KDE greeter backend for lightdm is a KDE project (because it is hosted on projects.kde.org), but it's not the default login manager |
| 16:49.41 | markit | tosky: ok, but is not a "kubuntu problem" is a kde one, I mean if I complain in #ubuntu+1 they will send me back to #kde |
| 16:50.11 | tosky | I guess that #ubuntu+1 is for ubuntu, and they don't care about kubuntu |
| 16:50.19 | tosky | is there a specific kubuntu channel? |
| 16:50.40 | markit | yes, #kubuntu but for 13.04 you are redirected to #ubuntu+1 |
| 16:50.41 | tosky | anyway, it's either on kubuntu (as they are using lightdm-kde instead of kdm) or on lightdm-kde side |
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| 16:51.15 | markit | yep, I will have the laptop here later, and I will file a pair of bugs |
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| 16:51.58 | tosky | markit: there should be also a #kde-lightdm channel, but I don't think it will be quite active |
| 16:52.26 | markit | tosky: will become a "UI design war", don't want to talk, I will file a bug and forget |
| 16:52.59 | tosky | as you wish, but it's not a ui design issue, it's a missing functionality issue |
| 16:53.20 | markit | is "slicker, less invasive, much better" ;P |
| 16:53.31 | tosky | if you search around, you will find that lightdm-kde will not replace kdm unless some important functionalities are implemented |
| 16:53.50 | markit | btw, kdm login has keyboard shortcuts, so works very well, I will file just one bug and half ;P |
| 16:54.01 | markit | tosky: good news :) |
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| 17:05.17 | sandhya | Hi, what is KDE's network manager called? I'm on Kubuntu Precise and seem to have replaced it with wicd which is acting up at the moment. |
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| 17:05.49 | cb400f | the KDE NetworkManager applet is plasmoid-networkmanagement |
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| 17:06.26 | cb400f | however replacing NetworkManager with wicd by accident is pretty impressive |
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| 17:07.30 | sandhya | cb400f: I wasn't by accident. The older versions of networkmanager did not support connecting to wifi until I logged in. |
| 17:07.54 | sandhya | cb400f: Is plasmoid-networkmanagement the name of the package in ubuntu? |
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| 17:09.13 | sandhya | hmm |
| 17:09.15 | sandhya | plasmoid-network-manager" exists in the package database, but it is not a |
| 17:09.16 | sandhya | real package and no package provides it. |
| 17:09.59 | cb400f | talk to your distro about packaging/installation issues |
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| 17:10.15 | sandhya | cb400f: Thank you. |
| 17:11.00 | tosky | sandhya: plasma-widget-networkmanagement |
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| 17:15.23 | sandhya | tosky: Thank you! |
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| 17:26.00 | Justice | hm since kde .10 notifications from kopete land on top of the monitor... any ideas? |
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| 17:51.08 | Aristide | Hi ! |
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| 17:55.07 | Walzmyn | KDE 4.10 for my user has several graphic glictches. A new user does not have these issues. I've tried renaming (and then restarting) .kde, .config, .local and 5 or 6 others. None of them made my errors go away. What other config files can I aim for? |
| 17:56.21 | tosky | Walzmyn: it could be a problem related with the interaction with the graphic driver |
| 17:56.32 | tosky | but, uhm |
| 17:56.39 | Walzmyn | tosky: wouldn't that effect both users? |
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| 17:56.47 | tosky | yes, that's the problem |
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| 17:57.12 | ChrJim | it has been suggested on this channel to delete the cache. See `kde4-config --path cache`. |
| 17:57.18 | tosky | oh, right |
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| 18:32.26 | Psychonaut | Hi guys, when I am downloading files in iceweasel, konquoror, kget, opera, chromium |
| 18:32.43 | Psychonaut | it cuts down all internet apps like openssh, voip and so on |
| 18:32.52 | Psychonaut | inculding clients on other workstations |
| 18:33.37 | Psychonaut | wget, lynx and aptitude runs without overheating the inet |
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| 18:37.02 | rdieter | Psychonaut: is there a question hidden in your comments? :) |
| 18:37.18 | Psychonaut | yea what in kde isn´t able to do a good QoS |
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| 18:37.52 | tosky | iceweasel, opera and chromium are not KDE projects |
| 18:37.56 | Torch | Psychonaut: you mean in kde-iceweasel, in kde-opera or in kde-chromium? ;-) |
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| 18:38.04 | Psychonaut | So whenever I download a file in a kde app it cuts off my connections on other apps |
| 18:38.14 | rdieter | besides the fact that gui browsers use more bandwidth |
| 18:38.21 | Psychonaut | this happens in kget and knonquror as well |
| 18:38.32 | Psychonaut | but not in wget and lynx |
| 18:38.33 | rdieter | nothing should get "cut off", the bandwidth should be shared |
| 18:38.44 | Psychonaut | but it isn´t |
| 18:38.54 | Psychonaut | I lose ssh connection and other services instantly |
| 18:39.07 | Psychonaut | including other connection on the physical workstations |
| 18:39.08 | rdieter | ok, strange. can't imagine that's a "kde" issue though |
| 18:39.20 | Psychonaut | but it only happens on GUI apps |
| 18:39.28 | rdieter | i certainly have never experienced anything like that |
| 18:40.02 | Psychonaut | kget for exmaple seems to just grab everthing the line would give |
| 18:40.13 | Psychonaut | which kicks off other connects |
| 18:40.30 | Torch | that's how it's supposed to work (use all bandwitdth) |
| 18:40.36 | Psychonaut | the last test shows epiphany works |
| 18:40.44 | Psychonaut | I just test that to be sure |
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| 18:52.18 | Psychonaut | What lib is doing the bandwidth sharing and restritcions for thise apps ? |
| 18:52.23 | Aristide | Hi ! |
| 18:52.29 | Aristide | How fix this problem ? http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/09/plasma-desktoptZ7401.png |
| 18:53.02 | ChemBro | Aristide: is this kde 4.10? |
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| 18:53.37 | Aristide | ChemBro: Yes |
| 18:53.43 | ChemBro | hm |
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| 18:56.51 | rdieter | Psychonaut: there isn't any bandwidth sharing/restrictions in general. some apps support stuff like that (ktorrent, kget come to mind) |
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| 18:57.15 | Psychonaut | but should be any solution for that |
| 18:57.51 | rdieter | Aristide: it would appear you may have no active notification widget |
| 18:58.06 | calimero | hello, i'd like to make a customized K menu submenu (i'd want the items in the submenu to be files to be opened with a common app), I could do it by hand but the list is big (and might change often), any advice ? |
| 18:58.08 | Aristide | rdieter: A notifcation widget is ON Desktop and Active |
| 18:58.08 | Psychonaut | I fighted 3 days to get this linux desktop working o a friends machine whith my help via SSH |
| 18:58.19 | Psychonaut | I won´t give him back to windows |
| 18:58.23 | rdieter | Aristide: I don't see one in your screenshot? |
| 18:58.55 | Aristide | rdieter: At the top right |
| 18:58.59 | rdieter | Aristide: in general, it's in your systray by default (did you omit it from there on purpose for some reason?) |
| 18:59.12 | Aristide | Between pastebin and envelope icon |
| 18:59.14 | rdieter | ok, I see it now |
| 18:59.30 | rdieter | I'm used to looking bottom right (the default) |
| 18:59.47 | Aristide | ^^ |
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| 19:03.22 | ChrJim | Aristide: this might sound far-stretched, but do you have Xfce or Gnome installed? What's the output of `pgrep -l notify`? |
| 19:03.42 | Aristide | 30 fsnotify_mark |
| 19:03.43 | Aristide | 7311 knotify4 |
| 19:03.45 | Aristide | For your command |
| 19:03.54 | Aristide | ChrJim: Mate is install |
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| 19:07.03 | ChrJim | is there anything is /etc/xdg/autostart that's looks like a notification daemon? |
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| 19:08.59 | ChrJim | Aristide: actually, do 'pgrep -l notif`. Mate calls it mate-notification-daemon. |
| 19:09.59 | Aristide | Ok |
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| 19:14.13 | Aristide | ChrJim: But KDE Notify don't work correctly :( |
| 19:14.19 | Aristide | Since many weeks |
| 19:14.32 | Aristide | I have already test from new session : Don't work |
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| 19:18.33 | ChrJim | and if you disable "Application notifications", do they still appear at all? |
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| 19:32.20 | markg85 | Hi there. I'm having a very strange KDE issue here. After plasma-desktop and akonadi crashed i lost all applications. kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental isn't fixing it nor is a completely new user. |
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| 19:32.46 | markg85 | I can start applications using ALT+F2 but only with the exact names |
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| 19:52.30 | TuxFighter | seems that other also had such problems in the past https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156000 |
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| 19:57.37 | invariant | How does Dolphin's "How large is this directory"-code work? |
| 19:57.59 | invariant | It appears to have number of cores threads + 1. |
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| 19:58.48 | invariant | From the behaviour I am observing, I am guessing that it is very much not optimized. |
| 19:59.18 | invariant | Using multiple threads for something which is I/O bound is questionable already. |
| 19:59.53 | invariant | It's likely faster to write a shell script and to run it than to wait before Dolphin is done. |
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| 20:04.53 | bsm | Good evening, is anybody using 4.10 with an NVIDIA card? Did anyone notice the workspace change glide effect got sluggish compared to 4.9 when complex full screen windows are open ( Opera etc.)? |
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| 20:26.13 | kbana | salzberg or zuckerberg? |
| 20:26.22 | kbana | diaspora or facebook? |
| 20:26.36 | kbana | salzberg + zuckerberg? |
| 20:26.47 | kbana | diaspora + facebook? |
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| 20:59.15 | roasted | Anybody know of a way to change the auto hide sensitivity/speed of KDE panels? |
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| 21:06.03 | G10h4ck | hi all |
| 21:06.25 | G10h4ck | i have a workstation and a laptop |
| 21:06.45 | juzprawiedaz | GOOD FOR YOU! |
| 21:06.52 | G10h4ck | i want to sync kmail local folder beetween them |
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| 21:07.27 | G10h4ck | juzprawiedaz LOL :P |
| 21:08.04 | G10h4ck | someone can help me or give me some hint to do that ? |
| 21:09.24 | J6Dof | when I go to "System Settings" --> "Network Settings" --> "Proxy" to set internet proxy, this message is shown: "Could not find plugin 'Proxy' for application 'systemsettings' Library "kcm_kio" not found" and I'm unable to configure anything. |
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| 21:11.37 | J6Dof | I'm using kde 4.8.5 on Ubuntu precise |
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| 21:15.42 | J6Dof | no one knows what's the problem? :( |
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| 21:17.42 | T-Sourcemaker | is it possible to enable auto tagging in kmail2 |
| 21:18.00 | T-Sourcemaker | let's say... I define a filter which automatically tags mail based on the sender email? |
| 21:18.35 | BeerSerc | Hi there. I just upgraded to 4.10 on my gentoo machine, and now after some minutes of being logged in, I have plasma-desktop using 100% of one cpu |
| 21:19.28 | BeerSerc | I made a strace -p <pid> of it: http://nopaste.info/50998aba4b.html |
| 21:19.32 | BeerSerc | any ides? |
| 21:20.22 | T-Sourcemaker | BeerSerc: kde 4.10 is running very well on my desktop system |
| 21:20.49 | BeerSerc | T-Sourcemaker: that is nice, but unfortunately it isn't on my system, which is why I am asking for help... |
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| 21:21.44 | T-Sourcemaker | have you tried to start kde on a new user? |
| 21:21.55 | invariant | Is there any dm which works with kde? kdm doesn't. |
| 21:21.57 | T-Sourcemaker | just in case of configuration errors |
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| 21:22.02 | onebitXdebian | hi to all |
| 21:22.18 | onebitXdebian | how to know witch distribution use kde 4.10.0? |
| 21:22.19 | BeerSerc | T-Sourcemaker: I can try that |
| 21:22.24 | invariant | It should support user switching and it shouldn't have random behaviour like kdm has. |
| 21:22.37 | T-Sourcemaker | BeerSerc: I had also problems with nepomuk... removing the configs solved the problem in my case |
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| 21:23.01 | invariant | I tell kde to switch users and what does kdm do? It shows me the locked session dialog. |
| 21:23.18 | invariant | It should have shown me a login screen. |
| 21:24.28 | invariant | I also think it's not possible to switch dm while users are still logged in. |
| 21:24.45 | onebitXdebian | how to know witch distribution use kde 4.10.0? |
| 21:25.08 | invariant | onebitXdebian, Kubuntu + backported updates does. |
| 21:25.26 | invariant | onebitXdebian, likely many more support it. |
| 21:25.35 | invariant | onebitXdebian, I'd imagine Arch too. |
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| 21:26.21 | onebitXdebian | invariant: isn't there a pge that tell exactry how many are there? |
| 21:26.40 | invariant | onebitXdebian, I don't know. |
| 21:26.47 | invariant | onebitXdebian, also, why do you care? |
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| 21:27.02 | invariant | onebitXdebian, what other requirements do you have? |
| 21:27.21 | invariant | onebitXdebian, Google uses Ubuntu. Why do you think you are smarter than them? |
| 21:28.40 | onebitXdebian | invariant: google use ubuntu??? where do you read this? |
| 21:28.48 | onebitXdebian | i dont i am smarter than nobody |
| 21:29.06 | invariant | onebitXdebian, this is public knowledge. They even have a presentation on it. |
| 21:29.13 | onebitXdebian | 2 days a go i find on kde.org a page that list all distributions that have kde 4.10.0 |
| 21:29.30 | onebitXdebian | but now i don't find it so i thought that if i ask here i can find it |
| 21:29.32 | invariant | onebitXdebian, they modified it a bit to make it more secure for their purposes. |
| 21:29.41 | invariant | onebitXdebian, but those are likely minimal. |
| 21:30.33 | invariant | onebitXdebian, http://community.kde.org/KDE_SC/Binary_Packages#KDE_4.10.0 |
| 21:30.39 | invariant | onebitXdebian, you wanted this. |
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| 21:31.20 | onebitXdebian | invariant: yes, it's that |
| 21:31.25 | onebitXdebian | thanks very much |
| 21:31.37 | invariant | onebitXdebian, you should spice up your Google skill.s |
| 21:32.10 | onebitXdebian | :D |
| 21:32.45 | onebitXdebian | i have either another problem i tried to compile kde fom source but i find alot of problems |
| 21:33.51 | invariant | onebitXdebian, despite KDE being "open-source" it doesn't actually compile out of the box. |
| 21:34.13 | invariant | onebitXdebian, the common excuse for this is that it is a complex system. |
| 21:34.30 | invariant | onebitXdebian, I don't buy that personally, but believe whoever you want to believe. |
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| 21:35.15 | onebitXdebian | invariant: i installed a kde 4.8 than download and compiled |
| 21:35.33 | Torch | invariant: looking forward to your talk how you'll fix all of kde's shortcomings at this year's akademy |
| 21:36.34 | invariant | Torch, I think the whole KDE process is wrong and I also think that the current process will never change while the same people are in charge. |
| 21:36.52 | invariant | Torch, as such it would be pointless to even try to change anything. |
| 21:37.10 | Torch | invariant: but it's not pointless to keep on complaining on _support channels_ about it? |
| 21:37.27 | invariant | Torch, that takes less effort. |
| 21:37.41 | Torch | invariant: and _a lot_ less skill |
| 21:37.59 | invariant | Torch, I am sorry, but no skill is required to build a desktop environment. |
| 21:38.17 | invariant | Torch, a desktop environment has nothing remotely complex in it. |
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| 21:38.44 | invariant | Torch, I meant no special skills. |
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| 21:39.37 | invariant | Torch, also, onebitXdebian brought up the subject. |
| 21:39.53 | invariant | Torch, can you tell me why KDE doesn't ship one command to build the whole thing? |
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| 21:40.10 | invariant | Torch, pretty much every other program does ship such a command. |
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| 21:40.35 | Torch | invariant: i have no idea, but my guess it it's not supposed to be built by end users as a whole |
| 21:40.43 | invariant | Torch, it's called ./configure && make && make install and it works 99.9% of the time when the repo is in a clean state. |
| 21:40.46 | Torch | invariant: i also have no trouble building it |
| 21:40.48 | invariant | Torch, exactly my point. |
| 21:40.52 | onebitXdebian | i am innocent :D |
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| 21:41.01 | invariant | Torch, you have no trouble, because you already did the work. |
| 21:41.04 | Torch | onebitXdebian: no worries, invariant is a known troll around here. |
| 21:41.11 | invariant | Torch, you have a build configuration, don't you? |
| 21:41.13 | onebitXdebian | i only ask for link that tell me witch distrib have kde 4.10.0 |
| 21:41.29 | invariant | Torch, something which took you some hours to create, no? |
| 21:41.32 | onebitXdebian | invariant: troll? |
| 21:41.50 | alienBOB | invariant: moan, whine |
| 21:41.55 | Torch | invariant: i know cmake. |
| 21:42.04 | alienBOB | Your KDM issues are not KDE issues. they atr kubuntu issues |
| 21:42.05 | Torch | invariant: it's party of my job to know the tools |
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| 21:42.23 | invariant | Torch, I also know cmake. Your point? |
| 21:42.26 | alienBOB | Try Slackware, your "switch user" works there as expected |
| 21:42.47 | Torch | invariant: it doesn't "take me some hours" to run cmake |
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| 21:43.07 | invariant | Torch, you aren't building 50+ components then. |
| 21:43.28 | alienBOB | invariant: are you actually aware that "KDE" is an organisation, and that the software collection is "KDE SC" ? It is not meant to be built with a single command by a "user" |
| 21:43.30 | invariant | Torch, and running cmake takes about 0.3seconds. |
| 21:43.33 | alienBOB | Leave that to the distro packagers |
| 21:43.41 | invariant | Torch, it's the configuriation that takes time. |
| 21:43.45 | Torch | invariant: do you actually claim that autotools would do that job faster? seriously? |
| 21:43.52 | invariant | Torch, NO |
| 21:43.59 | invariant | Torch, you really are not following me. |
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| 21:44.43 | Torch | invariant: you did mention configure |
| 21:44.44 | invariant | Torch, I am saying that the dependencies for all of the components are not well specified in a common format and that there is not one command which given e.g. Kubuntu builds the latest git version of about 50+ components. |
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| 21:44.50 | ompaul | inserts comedy guess 43.7s under rule ZZ-top cos (A) you are not on g+ / farcebook and (B) you are an ex gnome cheerleader? oh my |
| 21:44.58 | yerodin | I do have two screens. How can I tell kde to put one 'desktop' to one screen and not one over both of them? |
| 21:45.52 | Torch | invariant: hmm, aha. also, there's kdesrc-build, did you try that? |
| 21:46.00 | invariant | Torch, I was talking about that. |
| 21:46.02 | alienBOB | yerodin: krandrtray? |
| 21:46.04 | Torch | invariant: i _think_ it even downloads dependencies |
| 21:46.12 | invariant | Torch, you can make kdesrc-build build KDE. |
| 21:46.32 | invariant | Torch, but the creation of such a working configuration itself is non-trivial. |
| 21:46.40 | invariant | Torch, how hard is it to get this point? |
| 21:46.51 | invariant | Torch, I doubt you ever built KDE. |
| 21:46.57 | Torch | invariant: oh, ok. |
| 21:47.01 | alienBOB | invariant: I doubt you ever built KDE SC |
| 21:47.14 | Torch | invariant: this (off topic anyway) discussion is over. |
| 21:47.15 | invariant | alienBOB, I did build it. |
| 21:47.48 | invariant | Torch, oh, so now we established that you have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about the discussion is over? |
| 21:47.56 | invariant | Torch, bravo! |
| 21:48.00 | Torch | invariant: if you want to put it that way, yes. |
| 21:48.02 | Torch | invariant: you win. |
| 21:48.15 | invariant | Torch, the point wasn't to win. |
| 21:48.22 | invariant | Torch, I just hope you learned something. |
| 21:48.38 | Torch | invariant: about kde? no. abou you? not much i didn't know already. |
| 21:49.11 | invariant | Torch, not to interfere in matters you don't understand. |
| 21:49.44 | invariant | alienBOB, if it's the case that there are broken and working distros, perhaps those could be singled out on the KDE website somewhere? |
| 21:50.04 | invariant | alienBOB, so, a list of EPIC FAILURES like Kubuntu and a list of WINNERS like Slackware. |
| 21:50.49 | invariant | Entities distributing a broken version of KDE should be put on a blacklist and/or not mentioned anywhere. |
| 21:51.27 | invariant | At least, if it would be my software, I would strongly advice my users one specific distro on which it is certified to work. |
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| 21:51.35 | alienBOB | invariant: you are more likely to be an epic fail |
| 21:51.48 | alienBOB | If you keep on moaning here |
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| 21:52.03 | invariant | ... and then people say I am the troll. |
| 21:53.01 | invariant | alienBOB, if you had any clue at all, you would have said that it was a good idea or that such a thing already exists. |
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| 21:53.19 | invariant | alienBOB, instead, you go ad hominem and just ignore what I said. |
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| 21:53.24 | invariant | alienBOB, bravo to you too! |
| 21:59.05 | alienBOB | invariant: the question is, what do you consider a "broken" version of KDE? |
| 21:59.27 | invariant | alienBOB, if at least one property that is intended by the KDE developers does not work. |
| 21:59.28 | alienBOB | For instance, I consider Ubuntu a "broken" version of Linux |
| 21:59.30 | tosky | alienBOB: please don't feed... I did the same mistake |
| 21:59.46 | alienBOB | invariant: what property? |
| 21:59.51 | invariant | alienBOB, *any* |
| 22:00.00 | alienBOB | Show me what you mean |
| 22:00.10 | invariant | alienBOB, in my case user switching. |
| 22:00.11 | yerodin | alienBOB: I'm looking for a way to have one virtual desktop on one screen and a second virtual desktop on the other's. |
| 22:00.18 | invariant | alienBOB, it's formally a logical formula. |
| 22:00.20 | alienBOB | Kubuntu bug invariant - not a KDE bug |
| 22:00.37 | invariant | alienBOB, yes, so that would mean it would be "broken". |
| 22:00.49 | invariant | alienBOB, there is also no need to tell me things twice. |
| 22:00.54 | alienBOB | It's not KDE's fault invariant - complain in a kubuntu channel |
| 22:01.06 | alienBOB | invariant: I have to tell you twice because you are not listening |
| 22:01.09 | invariant | alienBOB, yes, you also already said that. |
| 22:01.15 | invariant | alienBOB, I was just answering your question. |
| 22:01.26 | alienBOB | So, shut the fsck up then |
| 22:01.28 | invariant | alienBOB, perhaps ask a different question next time? |
| 22:01.43 | alienBOB | Perhaps not show up in this channel next time? |
| 22:02.01 | invariant | alienBOB, because you lack reading comprehension skills? |
| 22:02.12 | tosky | thiago, svuorela: sorry for the ping, but please read the scrollback, you have the power here |
| 22:02.14 | alienBOB | If you are unable to build KDE SC you may start doubting yourself? |
| 22:02.24 | tosky | alienBOB, invariant: please stop it now, both |
| 22:02.27 | Mamarok | folks, stop it, don't you see he is a troll? |
| 22:02.38 | invariant | alienBOB, thanks for saying that it is Kubuntu, but otherwise you shouldn't be so cocky. |
| 22:02.45 | alienBOB | I like roasting trolls, but I will stop |
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| 22:02.51 | invariant | alienBOB, roasting? |
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| 22:03.14 | invariant | alienBOB, we already established that I did build KDE. |
| 22:03.39 | invariant | alienBOB, as such, I hope you not spread more false hoods into this world. |
| 22:03.42 | *** mode/#kde [+o thiago] by ChanServ |
| 22:03.56 | invariant | Why do you bother thiago? |
| 22:04.02 | thiago | I don't know yet |
| 22:04.03 | invariant | He has better things to do. |
| 22:04.09 | thiago | tosky asked me to take a look at what's going on |
| 22:04.22 | invariant | He shouldn't have done that. |
| 22:04.36 | thiago | doesn't matter |
| 22:04.40 | thiago | now I am paying attention to the channel |
| 22:04.43 | thiago | everyone will behave |
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| 22:05.57 | invariant | I only helped onebitXdebian and some people which apparently know an operator didn't like what I said, got into an argument, which they lost and now they are all sad. Then they called you their daddy (which would be you). That's an executive summary. |
| 22:06.35 | thiago | thank you |
| 22:06.45 | thiago | but if everyone behaves from now on, I don't have to do anything |
| 22:06.48 | *** mode/#kde [+o svuorela] by ChanServ |
| 22:06.59 | svuorela | now we are two daddies :) |
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| 22:09.05 | onebitXdebian | mmmmmm |
| 22:09.31 | onebitXdebian | i only asked where tofind a link that tell me teh distribution that have kde 4.10.0 |
| 22:09.51 | onebitXdebian | after that i say that i tried to compile kde from source but i found some problem |
| 22:09.57 | onebitXdebian | thats all :D |
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| 22:10.23 | onebitXdebian | sorry for my poor english |
| 22:10.32 | onebitXdebian | tosky: traduci te? :P :P :P :P |
| 22:10.50 | tosky | onebitXdebian: no need to, it was clear :) |
| 22:11.22 | onebitXdebian | thiago: svuorela : if I have caused this I apologize |
| 22:13.17 | svuorela | onebitXdebian: I think you triggered it, but didn't cause it. so not much you could have done about that ... |
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| 22:17.40 | Verge | onebitXdebian: Arch has 4.10 |
| 22:18.33 | onebitXdebian | Verge: i don't know witch ditrib to install |
| 22:21.57 | Mamarok | Kubuntu has it as well |
| 22:24.48 | roasted | Any of you guys know why I would be able to do right screen edge window preview, but not left side? |
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| 22:38.44 | T-Sourcemaker | is it possible the integrate kget in chromium? |
| 22:41.07 | james147 | T-Sourcemaker: http://code.google.com/p/simple-get/ might help |
| 22:41.31 | T-Sourcemaker | james147: i tried this... did not work :-( |
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| 23:07.19 | Maccer | Just curious, is kde 3.x still maintained? |
| 23:07.25 | Maccer | Because apparently that's what LiMux uses. |
| 23:10.05 | tosky | Maccer: no, it is not; in this case it's up to the distribution to maintain it |
| 23:11.30 | Maccer | Ah, but what about this trinity desktop thing? Is this part of the KDESC or apart? |
| 23:13.41 | neverendingo | Maccer: stands on its own. http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ |
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| 23:19.03 | almoxarife | i have used kmail for ever now and i have yet to find the method to get just 'unread' mail to pop up on startup, any thoughts? |
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| 23:32.24 | Marius80 | hi |
| 23:32.54 | Marius80 | Can anyone tell me how to solve the problem: "Need to press enter 3 times to run a command in krunner" ? |
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| 23:52.50 | juzprawiedaz | Marius80: either wait for an update in your distro or patch it yourself :v |
| 23:53.19 | Marius80 | juzprawiedaz, did I mention that I want kde3 back? LOL |
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